Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 May 2013 07:26

RamaY wrote:I am hoping against hope Ktaka shows some wisdom.

PP guy says 150 seats will be decided with margin of less 2000 votes. If that happens there is chance of your wish getting fulfilled.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 07 May 2013 07:41

Indians and Libtards Juhapura

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/05/05/m ... 73756.html

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 May 2013 07:57

Definitely the Delhi rent-collectors have exercised selective morality when it comes to Yeddy. But Yeddy can be faulted for timidity. He was threatening to expose Advani's relatives but he seems to have chickened out.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 May 2013 08:20

Did "Loh Purush" cut some kind of deal with "Kaali Vasiyat" to keep quiet against UPA (To help US in AFG) in return for getting the post of PM?.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 07 May 2013 09:32

So Karnataka sees highest voter turnout in 35% years? Wow. That is not exactly anti-incumbent wave. People are that worked up regarding the corruption by BJP? Something more is churning.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 07 May 2013 09:34

Sushupti wrote:Did "Loh Purush" cut some kind of deal with "Kaali Vasiyat" to keep quiet against UPA (To help US in AFG) in return for getting the post of PM?.

I too had noticed this in 2009. It was unnatural of kaali vasiyat to meet lka in midst of election. Thy stopped talking vehemently abt 26/11 thereafter.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 May 2013 09:53

Another one from Mr Clean.

GC LEAKS: Prime Minister’s Role in Goa Mining Scam!

http://goachronicle.com/goa/expose/19784

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 07 May 2013 10:14

Pratyush wrote:Karnataka is will now suffer the same fate that Bihar suffered under lalu.

congratulations to the state population.

No. If Khangress gets absolute majority, it will mean:
1. No more phuski terror attacks in Bangalore
2. No Karnataka Dignity Forum/Popular front/Naxalite front/Muthalik/ Bhatkal type antics
3. No caste/secular/minority tension.

This is because all chota terrorists, maowadi, troublemakers are firmly integrated with Khangress Inc. and the next 5 years will be trouble free.

This is what happened in others states when non-INC government was in session. The latest-brightest example is Rajasthan. When V.Scindia was CM,
1. There was one major and one minor terror attack in Rajasthan.
2. Rajput-Gujjar-Meena communities' fake leaders caused major takleef to the state. Now where are the fake lions Kirori lal Meena, Kirori Lal Bainsla and other paid Kirori Lal dalals ? The 2008 blasts and 2008 Gujjar agitation sweetly coincided with the election year.

Yes, after 5 years of INC rule, there is little to show on development front now. But the Ashok Gehlot government has ensured trouble-free 5 years because Friends of INC aka troublemakers are happily on bench. Now let us see what antics Dilli INC does with local BJP/Sangh leaders in Rajasthan before the elections.

When in power, INC invests in such non-state actors and keeps them on bench. With its money/blackmail power + KHAM (all variants) + internal sabotage of the opposition, it plays the role of a good Bakasura.

But if tomorrow, INC is restricted below 85 in Karnataka, then it will be big fun, bada maja aayega.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 May 2013 12:58

Another nephew of Bansal held in railway bribery case

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/anot ... 69711.html

And i see BJP protesting fiercely on the streets in Chandigarh and Kanpur .What happened to "Loh Purush"? Joined Sonia to oust MMS?

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 07 May 2013 17:36

Remember Sitaram Kesiari was "Old man in a hurry" to become a PM. It seems that Old man of BJP "not in a hurry to become a PM" I am sorry he could not know when to quit. Age is not his side. He does not enjoy the kind of pull he once had and yet he is not ready to say that he is not interested to become PM and support Modi who clearly has the best chance ahead of any one in BJP.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 07 May 2013 17:47

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/row-over-operation-bluestar-memorial-escalates/article4690113.ece

The row over a plaque dedicating the newly constructed memorial for Operation Bluestar to Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale has escalated, with radical Sikh organisations, led by Damdami Taksal leader Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa, declaring that they will “not tolerate” removal of the plaque or any other symbol of Bhindranwale from the premises.

On April 27, the controversial memorial which has been built in the precincts of the Harmandar Sahib (Golden Temple) in Amritsar by Damdami Taksal, the Sikh seminary once headed by Bhindranwale, was handed over to the Shiromani Gurudwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC).

It was a quiet ceremony, but as soon as a plaque and two slabs at the entrance with Bhindranwale’s name were unveiled, the ruling Akali Dal-dominated SGPC expressed its unease. A few days later, on the instructions of SGPC chief Avtar Singh Makkar, a clock with Bhindranwale’s name was removed from the memorial, and the organisation declared that the references to Bhindranwale would also be removed from the memorial.
This has been vehemently opposed by the radical organisations led by the Taksal, which have pulled out a resolution passed by the SGPC in May 2012, in which the apex body controlling gurudwaras had agreed to “dedicate the memorial to Bhindranwale and others who were killed during the 1984 army operation.”

On Monday, the Taksal, the Sant Samaj and major radical organisations went in a procession from Chowk Mehta, the Taksal headquarters, to the Akal takht in the Golden Temple complex and submitted a memorandum to Jathedar Giani Gurbachan Singh.

The Jathedar, who is heading an SGPC-appointed committee to look into the issue, assured the organisations that he would discuss the matter with the heads of the other Sikh takhts in the country.

Said Dal Khalsa spokesman Kanwarpal Bittu: “The SGPC must stick to its resolution which has legal sanctity. It cannot backtrack to suit the political opportunism of its political masters, the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD).”

The SAD’s alliance partner, BJP, has already expressed its unhappiness with the memorial and its dedication to Bhindranwale, saying it could jeopardise peace and harmony in Punjab. Mr. Makkar has so far stuck to his stand that the memorial will not carry any names, and so Bhindranwale’s name should not be there on it. “We have built a memorial as every community has a right to remember its martyrs, and our intention has never been to create any tension. We will not allow anyone to disturb communal harmony in the State.”

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 07 May 2013 18:08

Those who criticise Congress blindly forget that both Indiraji and Rajiv are martyrs.Punjab is a TFTA state.TN is TDRE state.the maravars and jutt sikhs have nothing in common outwardly-in dress,skin colour,language,food habits,religious rituals.The deeper unity of India is not defined by a Ram temple alone but rather by the Vedic/Vedantic ideals of which Sri Rama and Sri Krishna were embodiments.Its this which 'unites' Punjab and TN.

The Cong had to face the full frontal assault of khaali-staani agitation of which SAD was merely a pawn just as eelamists were a pawn in the hands of Anglo-Saxons.

Pawan Kumar Bansal and Ashwani Kumar have been disgraced.There can be no justification for corruption but spare a thought for Hindu Khatris of Congress who have had to maintain dignity,decorum amidst grave provocations.We need to 'understand' the fanatic loyalty of the Hindu Punjabis like Manish Tewari,Kapil Sibal for the Nehru family for the Hindus 'were' a minority in Punjab and one can understand why they are uncomfortable with majoritarian fundamentalism having experienced it in Punjab.Kapil Sibal remarked that people still do scrutinise the corruption in state govt.One could hear the plaintive pleading,the helplessness when one is up against shibboleths erected which cannot be questioned.One understands why influential Hindu minorities seek a Congress High Command which is the court of last appeal where all issues are thrashed out,analysed without any fear or reservation whether it is telengana,tribals,dalit issue etc.

True,increasingly Congress is becoming populist,anti-hindu etc but originally it was the platform wherein the sectarian demands were placed,accepted and implemented because there are hindu casteist,linguistic sectarian interests which do trump mythical hindu unity in many important cases.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 07 May 2013 18:19

Narayana Rao wrote:Remember Sitaram Kesiari was "Old man in a hurry" to become a PM. It seems that Old man of BJP "not in a hurry to become a PM" I am sorry he could not know when to quit. Age is not his side. He does not enjoy the kind of pull he once had and yet he is not ready to say that he is not interested to become PM and support Modi who clearly has the best chance ahead of any one in BJP.

Just this morning while in gahan chintan in socha-aalya, I also remembered this old comment by one old man for another.

Things don't really change even after several years. Only the actors change, the characters remain the same.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 May 2013 18:39

svenkat wrote: Pawan Kumar Bansal and Ashwani Kumar have been disgraced.There can be no justification for corruption but spare a thought for Hindu Khatris of Congress who have had to maintain dignity,decorum amidst grave provocations.We need to 'understand' the fanatic loyalty of the Hindu Punjabis like Manish Tewari,Kapil Sibal for the Nehru family for the Hindus 'were' a minority in Punjab and one can understand why they are uncomfortable with majoritarian fundamentalism having experienced it in Punjab.Kapil Sibal remarked that people still do scrutinise the corruption in state govt.One could hear the plaintive pleading,the helplessness when one is up against shibboleths erected which cannot be questioned.One understands why influential Hindu minorities seek a Congress High Command which is the court of last appeal where all issues are thrashed out,analysed without any fear or reservation whether it is telengana,tribals,dalit issue etc.

Punjabis of all sects should understand that it was the congies that created Bhindranwale in the first place.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 07 May 2013 18:42

Sir,
My understanding is that Cong did prop up Bhidranwale for a short time to reap electoral dividends.From that it is a tall order to claim Congres propped up Bhidranwale.You are completely ignoring British social engineering from mid 19th century.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 May 2013 19:12

svenkat wrote:Sir,
My understanding is that Cong did prop up Bhidranwale for a short time to reap electoral dividends.From that it is a tall order to claim Congres propped up Bhidranwale.You are completely ignoring British social engineering from mid 19th century.

Yes, I am quite aware of the social engineering, iirc VS Naipaul has written about it in a book of his. But congies are to blame for creating Bhindranwale, he was a nobody before they hired and promoted him. Of course the Pakis and other parties exploited the situation.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 May 2013 19:18

What kind of strategy is this by BJP central leadership that they will allow passage of Food Security Bill if some Chhapraasis are sacked? Should the fate of some Chhapraasis dictate such serious policy questions.

For Maino it is 2 birds with one stone - get rid of the Chhapraasi-in-chief i.e. MMS, and get her main 2014 election plank, thanks to BJP central leaders.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 May 2013 19:33

svenkat wrote:Sir,
My understanding is that Cong did prop up Bhidranwale for a short time to reap electoral dividends.From that it is a tall order to claim Congres propped up Bhidranwale.You are completely ignoring British social engineering from mid 19th century.

The British social engineering has had huge support from Congress as well, so there is no dichotomy.

Congress created and propped up Bhinderwale for a long time to stop Akali's and played with fire. We all got burnt.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 May 2013 19:36

Pranav wrote:What kind of strategy is this by BJP central leadership that they will allow passage of Food Security Bill if some Chhapraasis are sacked? Should the fate of some Chhapraasis dictate such serious policy questions.

For Maino it is 2 birds with one stone - get rid of the Chhapraasi-in-chief i.e. MMS, and get her main 2014 election plank, thanks to BJP central leaders.

The food bill will get passed one way or the other, the bills that congress wants to pass on the floor of the house will get passed. That is a no brainier.

BJP is merely leveraging it to throw as much muck on congress as possible. Sacrificing pawns is not that cheap btw, and these are not pawns, these are rooks etc.

So the strategy is sound -- whether it will work, it will help, but of course it is not a golden bullet, there are no golden bullets and the battle is a long term battle of attrition. Looking at anything like golden bullet or bust is a poor understanding of the world.

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 07 May 2013 19:48

Sanku wrote:The food bill will get passed one way or the other, the bills that congress wants to pass on the floor of the house will get passed. That is a no brainier.

BJP is merely leveraging it to throw as much muck on congress as possible. Sacrificing pawns is not that cheap btw, and these are not pawns, these are rooks etc.

So the strategy is sound -- whether it will work, it will help, but of course it is not a golden bullet, there are no golden bullets and the battle is a long term battle of attrition. Looking at anything like golden bullet or bust is a poor understanding of the world.

Sanku ji, always agreed with you but have to disagree now. Food security bill passing one way or another does not mean it should be supported. Also sacking the rooks is not long term. Believe me they will be back if UPA III is reality.
Also if the FSB , even so slightly benefits a few people, credit goes to cong, BJP gain nothing.
In fact it would turn beneficial if they remove the rooks, becos the topic of discussion in media will cool down. I think this is not good

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 07 May 2013 20:03

Ok, so you must all have heard how Loh Purush's favourite prodigy Sushma Swaraj finally found the guts to hit out directly at Sonia Maino for orchestrating the repeated interruptions of her parilamentary speech a few days ago?

Made you feel good didn't it? Maybe, just maybe there was ONE more person in the BJP who had finally grown enough spine to openly criticize Sonia Maino for her antidemocratic thuggery? Maybe finally, the BJP was turning into a real opposition party, instead of leaving Modi as a lone voice with the courage to target the Termite Family?

Heh heh, well it's all over. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/soniasushma- ... 37-64.html

Sonia and Sushma hug and make up! It's all back to normal again. Loh Purush's non-opposition will resume.

At this rate it's difficult to see why an "NDA" administration with Loh Purush or Sushma as PM would be any different from a UPA III with MMS as PM-- either way the remote control will remain firmly in Sonia's hands.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 07 May 2013 20:09

Sushma and Advani need to be thrown into Tihar with Sonia and her drones. These people only care about money in their pockets and keeping all their skeletons from falling out of the closet. This gangrene in the BJP needs to be carefully dissected out. Only Modi is fit to lead the party. No one else.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 07 May 2013 20:13

Rudradev wrote:Ok, so you must all have heard how Loh Purush's favourite prodigy Sushma Swaraj finally found the guts to hit out directly at Sonia Maino for orchestrating the repeated interruptions of her parilamentary speech a few days ago?

Made you feel good didn't it? Maybe, just maybe there was ONE more person in the BJP who had finally grown enough spine to openly criticize Sonia Maino for her antidemocratic thuggery? Maybe finally, the BJP was turning into a real opposition party, instead of leaving Modi as a lone voice with the courage to target the Termite Family?

Heh heh, well it's all over. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/soniasushma- ... 37-64.html

Sonia and Sushma hug and make up! It's all back to normal again. Loh Purush's non-opposition will resume.

At this rate it's difficult to see why an "NDA" administration with Loh Purush or Sushma as PM would be any different from a UPA III with MMS as PM-- either way the remote control will remain firmly in Sonia's hands.

Is this SS's Blackwill moment? I have been hearing a lot of "sane voices" suggest that NDA may get a chance to "leverage" the anti-incumbency and come to power IFF(i.e. IF and only IF) Modi is tactfully sidelined and replaced with a less controversial figure(Malini Parthasarathy's exact words to Sadanand Dhume). Who can be this individual who will keep light, water, greenery untouched in Lutyens? I am amazed how BJP leadership at the national level is looking nanga.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 May 2013 20:18

rkirankr wrote: Sanku ji, always agreed with you but have to disagree now. Food security bill passing one way or another does not mean it should be supported. Also sacking the rooks is not long term. Believe me they will be back if UPA III is reality.
Also if the FSB , even so slightly benefits a few people, credit goes to cong, BJP gain nothing.
In fact it would turn beneficial if they remove the rooks, becos the topic of discussion in media will cool down. I think this is not good

A better strategy would be most welcome, any one has workable better strategies?

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 07 May 2013 20:23

Looks like the police don't want any riots in Karnataka. At least in Bangalore City and Rural Dt. looks like Cr.PC 144 would be declared for next two days. Don't see much chances of BJP surviving.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 May 2013 21:29

Rudradev wrote: Heh heh, well it's all over. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/soniasushma- ... 37-64.html

Sonia and Sushma hug and make up! It's all back to normal again. Loh Purush's non-opposition will resume.
.

RD ji you are better than this -- because you support Modi there is no need to give bhaav to misinformation; since when did Rajdeep become gospel here?

This is no different from Sushpti "ABV had tea with Commies ergo he is a commie" -- because it helps to flog "Modi or BJP should be disbanded" type of rhetoric. That way I can show Modi hugging and talking to any number of other political people.

If it is only Modi keeping India away from failure, I would rather we fail. Seriously -- I have no use for messiahs.

(But I am also confident that the above is not the case, and I am confused why would normally very balanced hard as nails posters on BRF would fall for that)

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 May 2013 21:43

I am going to shut down internet, TV until 12 hours after all the results of KA are declared. I don't have wherewittal to watch the lungi dances of INC and their TV friends. The most disturbing feature of India's destruction (win of INC) will start in another 12 hours.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 08 May 2013 00:06

The FSB is the last hope for INC to buy votes before 2014.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 May 2013 01:22

It's going to be 2013. FSB must be stopped. Congress is essentially declaring economic warfare on India and filling the coffers.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 08 May 2013 01:43

Rudradev wrote:Ok, so you must all have heard how Loh Purush's favourite prodigy Sushma Swaraj finally found the guts to hit out directly at Sonia Maino for orchestrating the repeated interruptions of her parilamentary speech a few days ago?

Made you feel good didn't it? Maybe, just maybe there was ONE more person in the BJP who had finally grown enough spine to openly criticize Sonia Maino for her antidemocratic thuggery? Maybe finally, the BJP was turning into a real opposition party, instead of leaving Modi as a lone voice with the courage to target the Termite Family?

Heh heh, well it's all over. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/soniasushma- ... 37-64.html

Sonia and Sushma hug and make up! It's all back to normal again. Loh Purush's non-opposition will resume.

At this rate it's difficult to see why an "NDA" administration with Loh Purush or Sushma as PM would be any different from a UPA III with MMS as PM-- either way the remote control will remain firmly in Sonia's hands.

the story is by pressitutes, make sure your pants are on.

the devil is in details.

old man and hi protege walking around, termite queen comes up and says hi puts her grubby hands over protege- the whole presssitutes go into orgasm and spin it.
anyway damage will be done by termite party on this dilli billis.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 08 May 2013 02:38

Muppalla wrote:I am going to shut down internet, TV until 12 hours after all the results of KA are declared. I don't have wherewittal to watch the lungi dances of INC and their TV friends. The most disturbing feature of India's destruction (win of INC) will start in another 12 hours.

Come on!

We've been predicting BJP's self-destruction in Karnataka by playing into Congress strategy. At least we don't have to throw towels like in 2009

Kannada people like many Indians are wise as they'll defeat "chillara" leaders who only deal with Chillar paisas to elect the party that can eat crores of crores. They want the party to buy them lungis and throw "chillara" on them so they can do lungi dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1qnL5uTkRU

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 08 May 2013 07:41

alright boys button up and hold the dhotis.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 May 2013 07:43

Muppalla wrote:I am going to shut down internet, TV until 12 hours after all the results of KA are declared. I don't have wherewittal to watch the lungi dances of INC and their TV friends. The most disturbing feature of India's destruction (win of INC) will start in another 12 hours.

Don't worry. bJP will win

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 May 2013 07:52

Early news leads - 11 cong bjp 12 - suvarna

These are just postal ballots

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 08 May 2013 07:55

i just want to see how much of a leader yediyurappa really is.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 May 2013 07:55

Congress confident of win. LS elections this year will be a different story.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 May 2013 07:55

I am listening to Pranoy Roy. Of late he has become a dumb idiot. Too much friendship with Rahul Pappu.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 May 2013 07:56

@centerofright 1m

Where is suvarna getting its numbers - cong 12 - 17 bjp

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 May 2013 08:00

#KarnatakaElections #Leads:85 /223 BJP:17 CONG:50 JDS:8 KJP:2 Others:8

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 May 2013 08:03

Cong already at 35...