Bharat Rakshak

Police sources said a section of varsity teachers was mounting pressure on the administration to shield the accused in and added that the teachers, who met varsity vice-chancellor Jagadesh Kumar on Friday, also wanted the media to be banned from the campus and removal of police personnel. The agitating students might be getting instructions from these teachers, sources claimed.

The cops have prepared a list of 20 students, who were allegedly involved in the anti-national sloganeering on Wednesday. The list includes the name of CPI leader D Raja's daughter. Meanwhile, it is learnt that the cops, who are interrogating JNUSU president Kanhaiya Kumar, may also question other officebearers of the university during the course of investigation. Sources say that the university administration was well are of the happenings on the campus but did not take any action to prevent it.

ramana wrote:I don't trust Shekar Gupta at all. He is a scumbag.

nawabs wrote:Come on, is it really the speech he gave at 7 pm in the evening near famous ganga dhaba. Doesn't seems so.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... 9-protest/

And he lied to JNU administration about their intentions.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Del ... 236092.ece

nawabs wrote:And he lied to JNU administration about their intentions.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Del ... 236092.ece

ravip wrote:I am yet to come across a video which shows him shouting Anti-India Slogans. Do you have one, please direct me to the same. Yesterday on NDTV a CPI Leader who met HM stated that, when he asked HM on what basis Kumar was arrested, the HM is said to have replied that "based on video", but I am yet to see that video. What video is he speaking of? which is yet to come to public knowledge.

JE Menon wrote:^^The video was shown in court, according to press reports.

You said "he is arrested for this speech. Is he anti India?" and put a video clip there. How do you know he was arrested for that? Weirdly now you are saying there is no video.

Secondly, are you saying that Kanhaiya Kumar did not say those things? What are you trying to say? Be clear please.

ravip wrote: Sorry he was produced in home office not in court and no video was played. Any link please??

deejay wrote:ravip, you have put up a video which is difficult to believe and have said "ABVP Exposed". You are now defending Kanhaiya Kumar by using evidence of 03rd partyhere when a judge has found evidence to hold him in custody for few days due direct evidence presented by police.

If you agree what happened was Anti National, then the investigation is on determine the guilty. No one as of now has been declared guilty. JNU's left cabal have been known to take anti India positions. Watch Arnab's show posted by JEM and see the pamphlet Arnab holds. It has clear anti India and pro secessionist rants. None of the organizers on the show deny publishing the pamphlet.

In your anti BJP/ right wing bias are you trying to obfuscate the matter and shield anti nationals. Finally, if you agree India's downfall cannot be allowed to be plotted in India and definitely not in a taxpayer subsidized university, please refer to what the lower court judge has said and not some "make a headline" politician for credibility of your charge.

On this subject lines are very clear - Freedom of speech does not cover this tom-foolery. You are either with India or against it. You and people like you trying to defend in public a person whom the court has asked to be investigated are deliberately interfering through public pressure and trying to save the guilty. You have already tried to blame ABVP on flimsy grounds and you are now defending the arrested on another tall claim.

I say you are either supporting these anti nationals or at the very least trolling.

Supratik wrote:@ravip

You think people on BRF are stupid. Anti-national activity on JNU campus has been going on for decades under the patronage of the left. IA few tight slaps in the right places will make Kanhaiya sing like a canary and reveal the names of all those who are involved. It is about time the slime in JNU is cleaned up. Taxpayer money is being used against the citizens of the same country. This is unacceptable.

ThiruV wrote:

ravip wrote: Sorry he was produced in home office not in court and no video was played. Any link please??

How about you first cough up the details of the sidey video links posted? How is that guy in the video a known ABVP cadre according to you? Where did you get that information from? You are here spreading disinformation, and insisting everyone present *you* with a video link, when you have not done anything to defend the information you have posted on this thread with nothing to support your claims.

I don't care for aBVP or any student organization, but if you are going to defend people who were carrying posters calling for the destruction of India, you are going have to spell out some details of some home made video making arbitrary claims that are deliberately confusing the facts for some devious reason.

ravip wrote: No mercy is to be shown on people who shout anti-India slogans but that itself should not form basis for witch hunt. Mr. Kumar has himself asked for action against people who have committed offence by shouting anti India slogans. The Home Minister himself says Mr. Kumar was arrested based on video, where is that video? You say the judge found evidence on seeing some video, which is that video which shows Mr. Kumar shouting anti India slogans. At this stage of criminal proceedings people are sent to custody not on evidence but on gravity of offence for which he is booked. Naturally Sedition being serious charge he was sent to custody.

You claim the video relating to ABVP as 'difficult to believe', how convenient it say so when a person is charged of sedition based on similar unauthentic video, if at all it exists.

No body is obfuscate any matter,in your bias in favor of government/right wing you are cheering a wrong committed by establishment which will certainly fail judicial scrutiny in the days ahead.

ravip wrote: When you can accuse a person of committing a crime by just saying that there exists some video without actually seeing any. On the other hand you are questioning me about authenticity of video which I have posted. I will live it to your rationale.

nawabs wrote: Now you are really trying to play it by half. The 2nd video you posted where he speaks against RSS/BJP is certainly not from the day you say it is. The place he is speaking at is not the ganga dhaba and it is bright daylight in the video, unlikely since he addressed his crowd after 7pm in the evening.

As for the video shown to the judge, http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-sa ... st-2177101

The university too has debarred him from acadmics only after their 3 members investigative committee watched the inhouse video where he was raising slogans. They have also turned in the evidence to the police.

And finally, he was the organizer. Does no responsibility lies with him?

ThiruV wrote:

ravip wrote: When you can accuse a person of committing a crime by just saying that there exists some video without actually seeing any. On the other hand you are questioning me about authenticity of video which I have posted. I will live it to your rationale.

I have not accused anyone of any crime, the home minister of GoI has done so, and he has indicated he has evidence for the same, and there is no reason to disbelieve him over the claims a bunch of fools shouting "destroy India" and their cronies in politics with their own fish to fry. The GoI will have to reveal all this evidence in court and they will see the light of day, if they haven't already.

Besides, No one here has any more inside information than you do about the JNU student union leaders and the evidence against them, so you should ask people who may actually have the requisite information, and that is not related to the mendacity you are displaying by shifting goalposts when asked for evidence about the video link you posted along with your comment.

What is being asked is about Youtube video was posted here first, with a voiceover indicating that the group was different than what has been reported so far. Where is your evidence for these claims? These claims go against what has been reported in all news channels, though they seem to be in line with noise generators from political parties and their minions.

So, either put out facts to prove that the protest going on in that video is associated with the "pakistan zindabad" chants happened on the same day as the events discussed here, since you boldly made claims that you knew the people in that gathering. If you can't do that, you have just proven yourself to be a bare-faced liar with a political agenda with scant regard for facts on the ground.

ravip wrote: Above all how come these same sedition charges doesn't apply to Omar Abdulla, Farooq Abdulla, PDP Politicians or any of the high profile Politicians from J&K, why be selective?

ravip wrote: No body is trying to play it by half. Which video is it that which the 3 members investigating committee saw? or the judge saw or where you see him shouting or which shows he organised the anti-india slogan? Above all how come these same sedition charges doesn't apply to Omar Abdulla, Farooq Abdulla, PDP Politicians or any of the high profile Politicians from J&K, why be selective?

ravip wrote: This our Home Minister for you who tweeted about Phatankot Ops and later deleted it and now this. #credibility??? https://twitter.com/KilaFateh/status/698928113888030720

@delhipolice Sec124a IPC-Sedition: Bringing into hatred/contempt or exciting disaffection towards State by words or by signs or visible representation.

Delhi Police begins probe into Twitter handle that prompted it to issue alert:
Delhi Police today initiated a probe into the now-defunct Twitter handle in name of Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed, on which a message was
posted in support of the JNU student stir that prompted it to issue an alert.

"We got to know that the Twitter handle has been deleted. We have initiated a probe into the matter, starting with tracking the handler, who can also be charged with sedition in view of the contents posted," a senior officer said.

Special Commissioner of Police (Operations) Sundari Nanda, who monitors Delhi Police's Twitter handles, said, "When the tweet was brought to our notice, we, as a law enforcement agency, issued the alert based on its content which was found to be anti-national."

"We checked the particular Twitter handle and most of its tweets and activities on the micro-blogging site were found to be anti-national. No matter who the handler was, the content was threatening, especially in the backdrop of the ongoing agitation at JNU," she said.

Asked about allegations made by JNU teachers that it was wrong to register a case of sedition as the act was only that of ‘dissent’, Bassi said, “Sedition is bringing in hatred and contempt or exciting disaffection towards the State by words or by signs or visible representation. The case was registered on the basis of prima facie evidence.”

“Anyone who is indulging in slogan shouting which tends to impact the integrity of our nation and can excite others to lead to the breakdown of public order are required to be brought before the court for dispensation of justice in the matter,” Bassi said.

The police chief said that the matter of students’ links with terrorist organisations was under investigation. “The facts will be out once it is completed,” he said.

On the issue of the tweet in name of Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Saeed, Bassi said, “The tweet was brought to our notice and the contents were found to be highly seditious in nature. It is then that it was decided to alert and educate the youth to be wary of the person or organisation that are enemies of our country. The authenticity of the tweet is not relevant at this juncture. What is important is to be aware of the evil desires of our enemies and take precautions so as to not fall prey to them.”

The tweet was deleted soon after social media started reacting to it. In reaction to that, the police issued an alert asking the youth to “not get carried away by such seditious anti-national rhetoric”.

Late on Friday evening, special commissioner of police (operations) Sundari Nanda, who monitors police’s Twitter handles, said they have initiated an inquiry to identify the person behind the tweet. “We got to know that the Twitter handle has been deleted. We have initiated a probe into the matter,” a senior officer said.

patel wrote: 4) You cannot claim to be a believer in the constitution of India and yet term the punishment given to Afzal guru as "Judicial killing". The SC has to show some B@!!$ and slam these bugger with contempt of court.