India-US News and Discussion

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 10 Jan 2010 23:40

Jarita wrote:
Rahul Mehta wrote: MMS himself is the biggest US spy bug cum spy US has planted in India.

So MMS doesnt need to worry about spy bug causing any more harm.

.

Do you have any data to support this claim?

Amen to that ... I am very interested to know as to what data/info do you have to claim that MMS is a US spy ???

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 11 Jan 2010 00:07

Rahul Mehta wrote:
China finds spy bugs in Jiang's Boeing jet
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... g-jet.html

By Damien McElroy and David Wastell in Washington
Published: 12:01AM GMT 20 Jan 2002

CHINA claims to have found almost 30 surveillance bugs, including one in the headboard of the presidential bed, on a Boeing 767 that had just been delivered from America to serve as President Jiang Zemin's official aircraft.

Pranav wrote: Now, our leader Manmohan Singh has taken a liking for traveling in US-supplied planes for VIP travel.
MMS himself is the biggest US spy bug cum spy US has planted in India.

So MMS doesnt need to worry about spy bug causing any more harm.

.

there are 3 choices,
a) provide proof and make a case for this accusation
b) retract the comments and apologise
c) keep it intact with no further action and get warned.
you have 24 hours from the time of writing that post (Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 14:43) for doing so. your call,
Rahul.

csharma · Post by **csharma** » 11 Jan 2010 09:14

B Raman talk about India US relationship.

INDIA & US: HAUNTING PAST & BECKONING FUTURE

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers ... r3599.html

In geopolitical matters, there is no futuristic thinking in India. The quality of Indian thinking and analysis----strategic and tactical----is poor. What passes for analysis in India is often wishful-thinking. Nobody in India has realised and brought out that for the first time the US, Japan and Australia have a leadership which does not rate highly India's potential as an emerging power. There is less and less talk of Chindia.

Someone once said that power and influence are not given. They are taken. China has shown how to take it. India does not have the political will and courage to fight for it and take it. It is hoping that the US will give it. Bush and Condolleezza Rice seemed inclined to bestow on India the status of an Asian power on par with China. The Obama Administration does not seem to be so inclined.

Doesn't this appear a bit negative? First of all, B Raman says that India is the only country in Asia that can match US and later he says that nobody in giving Indian "bhav". Isn't that a bit contradictory. What is India doing differently now? In fact it is now visibly standing up to China.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 11 Jan 2010 09:30

^^^

It is the otherway around IMO. PRC is provoking India, resulting overt Indian response, to break Chindia paradigm (equal-equal). PRC doesn't want to give india the precious time to catchup. Aussies IMO have become an extension of PRC foreign policy. Ombaba is weak and Yen is rudderless.

bahdada · Post by **bahdada** » 11 Jan 2010 09:55

AnimeshP wrote:
Do you have any data to support this claim?

Amen to that ... I am very interested to know as to what data/info do you have to claim that MMS is a US spy ???[/quote]

I believe that's yet another instance of him pulling facts outta an orifice of his where the sun doesn't shine.

habal · Post by **habal** » 11 Jan 2010 11:44

this is what comes closest to 'evidence'.

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_a- ... ss_1078194

'A Prattler's Tale' rattles the Congress

Sanjay Singh/Javed M AnsariMonday, February 5, 2007 22:39 IST Email

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NEW DELHI: A political storm could be in the making. This time, over the revelations made in the memoirs of Ashok Mitra, former West Bengal Finance Minister and the Chief financial Advisor to Indira Gandhi. According to Mitra, Manmohan Singh was appointed Finance Minister of the country in 1991 at the behest of the United States.

Mitra's claim is likely to raise a political stink, as they come from a man whose access to information and proximity to some of the most powerful people in the country like Indira Gandhi and Jyoti Basu is well known.

He was at one time the Chief Financial Advisor to former Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. The main Opposition party, the BJP, has jumped at the opportunity and asked the Prime Minister, Ashok Mitra and the CPI(M) to come clean on the subject.

Though Dr Mitra does not mention Manmohan Singh by name in his book 'A Prattler's Tale: Bengal, Marxism and Governance', the inference is clear. He refers to the phase soon after the formation of the Narsimha Rao government. "The first name proposed by Washington DC thought things over and then declined the invitation to be the Finance Minister. The second name on the list was sounded out by Narsimha Rao and he readily agreed," says Mitra. While it's not known who was Rao's first choice as Finance Minister in 1991, Manmohan Singh went on to take the job and ushered in the era of economic liberalisation.

The Congress party, however, sprang to Manmohan Singh's defense, describing him as one of India's finest Prime Ministers. "Nobody but the people of India can decide who the Prime Minister will be. Even to suggest something to the contrary is condemnable. It's outrageous for an Indian to cast aspersions on him," said party spokesperson Jayanti Natrajan.

Referring to the events of 1991, Mitra, in his book, says: "India was down and out in the judgment of its ruling coalition, and its ruling politicians, and the government must surrender all the way to the US and the two international financial institutions. So the prerogative of naming the new finance minister was also transferred to Washington DC."

http://www.dailypioneer.com/168899/Call ... ss-PM.html

Callous Congress, feckless PM

Kanchan Gupta

If we lesser mortals were to be found misleading someone intentionally, we would be accused of telling a lie. To be called a liar is as good as being told your integrity quotient is zero. Telling the truth, as we all know, may be difficult but is considered a virtue; telling a lie is sinful, a vice to which the feckless and the irresolute are given. But what about someone who holds high office and misleads the nation in the most casual (some would say sly) manner? Does vice become a virtue when your are the Prime Minister of India?

...

In his memoirs, A Prattler’s Tale, economist Ashok Mitra is ruthlessly honest in his description of Mr Singh: “His timidity is the product of his civil servant’s mind, which many mistake as humility.” He also recounts an incident from his days as a member of the Rajya Sabha when Mr Singh was the Union Finance Minister. At a meeting of the Parliamentary Consultative Committee attached to the Ministry of Finance, Mr Mitra wanted the Government to supply copies of an RBI report listing the identities of individuals and corporates who owed more than a crore of rupees in unpaid bank loans adding up to more than Rs 50,000 crore. “The Finance Minister (Mr Singh) had a quick consultation with the Finance Secretary, who was sitting next to him, and agreed to place copies of the report before the members (of the committee)... Then the fun started. Days went by, then weeks, followed by a full month, but we did not receive copies of the report. I wrote to the Finance Minister but there was no reply from him. I sent him another letter... the silence was unbroken. At the next meeting of the committee, I hit the roof. Manmohan, however, was unfazed. He feigned surprise, ‘What, did I really make such a promise? I do not remember. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding’.” Mr Mitra has other stories to tell about our economist Prime Minister, but since he hasn’t committed them to paper, I shan’t either.

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 11 Jan 2010 12:53

^^^Ashok Mitra is a lovely man, erudite, scholarly and of strong convictions, but doesnt mean all his inferences are right! Especially at his age where memory plays a few tricks...

PVNR's first choice for FM in 1991 was his old fellow Hyderabadi friend (unfortunately dont remember the name, famous Muslim economist, was a prolific writer on economic issues)...But MMS was chosen becasue of his "allround" background with economic policy making apparatus as well as interntional finance circles (he was RBI guv and served in the IMF as well)..But it was clear that the govt would be looking at someone with a technocratic background, so as to rebuild its credibility with international financial institutions which was so important back in thoese crisis days..

To therefore suggest that the US "forced" the appointment of MMS is stretching it a bit too far, he was one of the most eligible candidates...

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 11 Jan 2010 21:59

The Congress party, however, sprang to Manmohan Singh's defense, describing him as one of India's finest Prime Ministers. "Nobody but the people of India can decide who the Prime Minister will be. Even to suggest something to the contrary is condemnable. It's outrageous for an Indian to cast aspersions on him," said party spokesperson Jayanti Natrajan.

This part I never understood. MMS did not contest direct elections. MMS was not elected by congress MPs to be the prime minister.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 11 Jan 2010 22:02

RamaY wrote:
The Congress party, however, sprang to Manmohan Singh's defense, describing him as one of India's finest Prime Ministers. "Nobody but the people of India can decide who the Prime Minister will be. Even to suggest something to the contrary is condemnable. It's outrageous for an Indian to cast aspersions on him," said party spokesperson Jayanti Natrajan.
This part I never understood. MMS did not contest direct elections. MMS was not elected by congress MPs to be the prime minister.

In 2009 election, Congress made it clear that MMS is their PM candidate.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 11 Jan 2010 22:05

somnath wrote:

To therefore suggest that the US "forced" the appointment of MMS is stretching it a bit too far, he was one of the most eligible candidates...

I remember reading in 1991 in India Abroad MMS giving a presentation in Bank of England, Harvard University, WB etc. Indian Rupee and economic standing was low and Indian influence within the global banking system was non existent.
I also read that India had option to get money from Taiwan and other countries. India was forced to get the money only from western sources at terms which was in the western economic benefit. What Mitra says is possible. The difficulty was not the money alone but the influence and ability to build the relationship.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 11 Jan 2010 22:28

America has been run by bankers for a long time. MMS ,too, is a former banker.

Leaders are not elected anymore, they are selected by the elites. MMS bending forward to get Obama's autograph.

Kamal Nath sidelined because he was causing too much takleef to tftas. Jairam writing in private to MMS about agreeing to legally binding carbon emission cuts. The writing is there on the wall for those who can see. MMS is innocent till proven guilty.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 11 Jan 2010 22:43

okay, enough discussions on MMS' political acumen (or lack of it) in this thread.
thanks for the cooperation.
Rahul.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 12 Jan 2010 03:05

Hands Off Kashmir!
The final paragraph is the gist of his thoughts.

Kashmir is one case in which the U.S. tendency to remake the world order should be held in check. Unless tensions escalate dramatically, this is a conflict that India and Pakistan should sort out bilaterally. Hands off Kashmir!

This is the bio of the blogger:
Charles Cogan was an officer of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) from 1954-91. His first overseas posting was to New Delhi, 1957-62, and later he was the chief of the Near East South Asia Division in the Directorate of Operations of the CIA, 1979-84. He is currently an associate at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard's Kennedy School.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 13 Jan 2010 01:36

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Jan 2010 01:39

I dont see this as an Indo-US issue. Please post in the West Asia news and discussion thread and delete from here.

Thanks, ramana

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Jan 2010 21:48

Anujan wrote:
Gagan wrote:If the people are hoping to screen bollywood movies in pakistan, I wonder if this'll materialize so smoothly. The radicalized mullahs won't allow it, and the fauj will be vary of increasing 'cultural exchanges' - a euphemism for Indian culture being blindly adopted by the packees.
If this hunch is correct, then Indian media would have truly taken a leaf out of amreeki "best practices".

An example is the latest "tea party" movement in US, where a bunch of morons were persuaded to hold rallies and protests against "Amreeka becoming socialist" and instigated by Fox news (who act as though they are neutral observers, but at the same time heavily advertising the next rally). Well a bunch of morons did fall for this and held rallies ityadi. Guess who benefited ? "Political consultants" allied with Fox news who were hired by these morons to give "consultation" who laughed all the way to the bank.

So suckering people through the media to make money off of them and not worrying about weakening the country has a nice little precedent !

They had similar rallies after New Deal led by Republicans. There is this deep divide of one side labelling the other with extreme view points. Occurs on both sides.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Jan 2010 01:10

prad, do read books on New Deal and FDR. What we are seeing is similar movements at that time. Same responses. A lot of ugliness is coming out. Have you seen Pat Robertson's remarks about the quake in Haiti?

Karna_A · Post by **Karna_A** » 15 Jan 2010 06:33

The education system has gone downhill since last 50+ years and has created a big class of idiots.
Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free
http://www.amazon.com/Idiot-America-Stu ... 0767926145

You are right that the strength of Tea party movement is not to be underestimated, but its spiritual leaders are all dimwits, and the message is convoluted. Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robbertson are prime example. Palin and Glenn Beck are proud to be dumber than a 5th grader as intelligence has become a liability, and stupidity has becomne a virtue.

prad wrote:don't underestimate the Tea Party movement. it is rapidly becoming a gathering ground for the frustrated and angry majority. either way, we are living in interesting times for American politics.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 15 Jan 2010 07:42

"It is equally critical for the US and the international community to pay adequate attention to and realize that the situation both in Afghanistan-Pakistan and the cross-border terrorism that emanates from Pakistan against India are manifestations of the use of terrorist ideologies to promote unscrupulous political or institutional agendas," she said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 445995.cms

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 15 Jan 2010 10:50

Pat Robertson has said nasty things about India in 700 Club programming over the years. Saying things like Indians worship anything like rocks, trees, rivers and thus god has poisoned the land and subsequently don't have enough food. The man is a snake or really a KKK man with the robe & hood in the closet. Radicalism in the US is manifested in the Bible wrapped in an American flag.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 15 Jan 2010 10:54

The man is a snake or really a KKK man with the robe & hood in the closet.

Nonsense, the man is a devout Christian doing his god's work. Please learn to be respectful of other belief systems.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Jan 2010 10:58

There is this streak of "end of times" mentality in Southern US that these hate preachers tap into. Most likely when there is a disaster these guys claim that the situation was due to lack of grace of God. So they can be seen hectoring the crowds to be converted.

Some time back there was an article in Atlantic Monthly of the prosperity gospel where Hispanics were being given sub-prime loans to convert to Baptist church. So this guy could be using disasters to increase his flock.
IIRC he made similar wise remarks after Katrina struck New Orleans.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200509130004

Wonder why they dont put him away for hate speech.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 15 Jan 2010 11:10

There is this streak of "end of times" mentality in Southern US that these hate preachers tap into.

Ramana,

These cuckoos are across the US, not just the south.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 Jan 2010 11:14

Ramana,

What exactly did Pat Robertson say about the Haiti tragedy?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Jan 2010 11:15

Google and find out.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 Jan 2010 11:22

ramana wrote:Google and find out.

Boss, I thought there was a news item or something. Google will give all kinds of crap; tell me Sir, if its not too much trouble for you

.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 15 Jan 2010 11:24

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/ ... ormer.html

CRamS wrote:
ramana wrote:Google and find out.
Boss, I thought there was a news item or something. Google will give all kinds of crap; tell me Sir, if its not too much trouble for you .

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 15 Jan 2010 11:37

CRamS wrote:
ramana wrote:Google and find out.
Boss, I thought there was a news item or something. Google will give all kinds of crap; tell me Sir, if its not too much trouble for you .

The guy said that the Haiti earthquake was God's punishment for Haitian slaves' 'pact with the devil' to win freedom from France. Basically the guy doesn't like that voodoo religions are part of Haitian culture. Incidentally, Haiti was the first Black republic in the western hemisphere.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Jan 2010 23:23

CRS I wanst being facetious. Already one poster brought in subject of respect to religion in this thread.

Meanwhile CNN does a good job to slow down the sympathy at times of mega disasters. They are now focussing on isolated reports of looting in Haiti. This will be seized by some as an excuse not to send aid to the disaster hit nation.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 15 Jan 2010 23:34

sanjaykumar wrote:The man is a snake or really a KKK man with the robe & hood in the closet.

Nonsense, the man is a devout Christian doing his god's work. Please learn to be respectful of other belief systems.

Nonsense yourself if I may say so. Maybe you don't know enough about this man. He is also the man who said that the 9/11 attacks are due to homosexuality in America. It is too mild to say that he is a vicious scoundrel as well as an idiot. Respecting a religion doesn't mean we have to take leave of values.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 15 Jan 2010 23:36

ramana wrote:There is this streak of "end of times" mentality in Southern US that these hate preachers tap into. Most likely when there is a disaster these guys claim that the situation was due to lack of grace of God. So they can be seen hectoring the crowds to be converted.

Some time back there was an article in Atlantic Monthly of the prosperity gospel where Hispanics were being given sub-prime loans to convert to Baptist church. So this guy could be using disasters to increase his flock.
IIRC he made similar wise remarks after Katrina struck New Orleans.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200509130004

Wonder why they dont put him away for hate speech.

Maybe because you can't. It is not a crime in the USA.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Jan 2010 00:49

KLNMurthy: My guess, based on some his past comments, is that there was some sarcasm.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 16 Jan 2010 01:57

SwamyG wrote:KLNMurthy: My guess, based on some his past comments, is that there was some sarcasm.

sure, makes sense

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 16 Jan 2010 11:06

Other than the mistake in the report ("jets",which they aren't),this is a very sinister act by the US,to supply Pak with further upgraded P-3 Orions,ostensibly to fight the Taliban's navy in Afghanistan! These aircraft have been [provided to Pak by the US to keep the IN at a disadvantage in any future conflict with Pak.Many years ago,tyhe US provided Pak with Harpoon and sub-Harpoon missiles when IN subs did not have similar capability .The US has always given the Paki navy a distinct qualitative edge in certain weapon systems as its true aim is to neutralise the IN in the IOR.This is an insurance policy if it cannot surreptitiously get the GOI through its pro-US agents integrate the Indian armed forces into the US's order of battle.Selling us P-8Is makes it very easy for the USN to neutralise the INs ASW/LRMP capability in the future as the USN will have a complete knowledge of the EW/ASW systems aboard the P-8s.US defence companies are also by selling F-16s and P-3s to Pak and other arms to India with the hope of even more lucrative orders are laughing all the way to the bank by selling Indian and Pak,implacable enemies their products!

http://www.zeenews.com/news596089.html

Lockheed Martin delivers P-3C surveillance jets to Pak Updated on Friday, January 15, 2010, 15:12 IST Tags:Lockheed Martin, P-3C maritime surveillance jets, Pakistan

Islamabad: American aviation major Lockheed Martin has delivered to Pakistan two P-3C maritime surveillance aircraft that were upgraded under the US government's Foreign Military Sales programme.

Lockheed Martin delivered the first plane in October last year and the second one was handed over to the US Naval Air Station at Jacksonville in Florida on January 7 for subsequent transfer to Pakistan, the company said.

The firm is upgrading seven P-3C aircraft from Pakistan. It will also refurbish their mission systems and provide maintenance under a 2006 contract from the US Navy.

The aircraft support anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare missions and will enhance Pakistan's ability to conduct surveillance in littoral and deep-water environments.

The aircraft are designed to have a single integrated tactical picture of the space around them by drawing on data from sensors and information from other platforms.

"These aircraft incorporate a variety of enhanced features, including communications, electro-optic and infrared systems, data management, controls and displays, mission computers and acoustic processing," said Mike Fralen, director for Lockheed Martin's mission systems and sensors maritime surveillance programmes.

The P-3C is Pakistan's primary maritime patrol and reconnaissance aircraft. Its roles include anti-submarine warfare, anti-surface warfare, surveillance and reconnaissance, economic zone patrol, airborne early warning and electronic warfare.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 16 Jan 2010 12:20

prad:

With all due respect, that pendantic tripe by Peggy is just that, cart-load of nit-picking sophistry. First of all, I don't take this dems Vs reps tamasha seriosuly except for entertainment, but in Obama's case, those furiously opposing him, like those demented tea party Nazis, don't like Obama, and worse they hate Michelle Obama. To paraphrase Harry Reid, Obama is a black person whom whites will 'tolerate', while Michelle, is well, too black; the devil as republican icon Pat Robertson would say. Thats all there is to it.

To give you a glimpse of the comic nature of Obama hatred, I saw one republcian honcho proclaim that the attempted terror attack on Christmas day was the result of Obama's "appeasement" speech in Cairo. How can anyone take these 'debates' and the clowns participating in them seriously is beyond me.

But closer to home, if shallow narcisstic difference in policy, especially policies on the so called "war on terror" are exaggarated and beaten to death in US, in India, surrender to Paki terrorists is hailed as Chanakyan stratgey with nary a whiff of a debate.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 17 Jan 2010 10:48

Pakistan: Now or never

Asked about whether the linchpin of U.S. strategy in the region was based on an alliance between the United States and India:

“Well if it is then I don’t understand what the Eurasia strategy is because if that is the alliance, then we are not going to solve the Afghan question and if we don’t solve the Afghan question but the conflict continues, how will the relationship between China and Pakistan, which is quite close, be affected by an American-Indian alliance, and what will that do to the prospects for stability on a larger global scale between China and India?”

What is the EurAsia strategy referenced here? He seems to rule out an US-India alliance here -

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 17 Jan 2010 10:53

CRS,

Actually Peggy Noonan is actually more rational and coherent in her arguments compared to the other nitwits. Pat Robertson doesn't represent the Republican party as I can assure you, he would go after Mitt Romney for being a Mormon and Bobby Jindal for being a Catholic.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 17 Jan 2010 10:56

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives

This is how Brzezinski views the (supposedly sovereign) nations of Central Asia:
"The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of Eurasian power relations but also as the world's paramount power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first truly global power..."

"Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power to cause a potentially important shift in the international distribution of power and to decipher the central external goals of their respective political elites and the likely consequences of their seeking to attain them;... second, to formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or control the above..." (p. 40)

- "...To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." (p.40)

- "Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global power." (p.55)

- "America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia is the globe's central arena. Hence, what happens to the distribution of power on the Eurasian continent will be of decisive importance to America's global primacy and to America's historical legacy." (p.194)

- "That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order to prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could eventually seek to challenge America's primacy..." (p. 198)

- "The most immediate task is to make certain that no state or combination of states gains the capacity to expel the United States from Eurasia or even to diminish significantly its decisive arbitration role." (p. 198)

- "For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain Geostrategic depth through political influence in Afghanistan - and to deny to Iran the exercise of such influence in Afghanistan and Tajikistan - and to benefit eventually from any pipeline construction linking Central Asia with the Arabian Sea." (p.139)

And ponder the meaning of these statements in a post-9-11 world:

- "Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (p. 211)

- "The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been much more ambivalent. The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. (pp 24-5)

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 17 Jan 2010 11:34

vera_k wrote: What is the EurAsia strategy referenced here? He seems to rule out an US-India alliance here -

an article from late 90s
A geostrategy for Eurasia ----- Zbigniew Brzezinski

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 17 Jan 2010 11:55

vera_k wrote: What is the EurAsia strategy referenced here? He seems to rule out an US-India alliance here -

Read the entire book

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI

THE GRAND CHESSBOARD
American Primacy and Its -Geostrategic Imperatives

http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119973.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfikRg2jE6o

Check China thinking
Check at 7-55 min about India and US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dlH8xmo2f8