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Another pest-e-shaheed in J&K:
LeT commander killed in J&K encounter
Two Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) militants, including its district commander, were killed and two army officers and a policeman injured in a fierce gun-battle in south Kashmir’s Pulwama district, 50 km from here, early on Friday.

Police sources said that on a specific tip-off a joint team of Army’s 55 Rashtriya Rifles, CRPF’s 18 Battalion and Special Operations Group (SOG) of the police laid a siege around Bubgam, Pulwama.

“As security forces launched search operations, the militants resorted to indiscriminate firing which was retaliated, triggering an encounter in which the militants were killed. One army major, a captain and a policeman were also injured,” a senior police official told Deccan Herald.

He identified the militants as Imtiyaz Ahmed Teli alias Fahadullah Kashmiri of Pulwama and Mohammad Aamir Bhat alias Khalid alias Khursheed of Shopian.

Inspector General of Police (IGP) Kashmir Range S M Sahai said that Fahadullah was a local militant and the district commander of LeT. “He was active in Pulwama and its adjoining districts. He was earlier arrested by the Srinagar police and after 10 months’ detention was released in June 2010. However, Imtiyaz rejoined the group in 2011 after being motivated by the then divisional commander Rehman Bhai,” Sahai said.
Deputy Inspector General of Police South Kashmir Vijay Kumar said when the injured army major was being evacuated for treatment, a mob attacked the ambulance in Pulwama town injuring a policeman.

“In retaliatory action seven people were injured. While one injured is undergoing treatment at Bone and Joints Hospital in Srinagar, six others have been admitted to SMHS hospital,” he said.
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anupmisra wrote:For Kashmiris Indo-Pak cricket isn’t just a sport
With teary-eyes many elderly women and men bookies in the Kashmir Valley Lahore could be seen sitting, anxious and worried, on their prayer mats, some also holding rosary beads in one of their hands; seeking divine intervention spot-fixing to rescue Pakistan their dwindling fortunes from scary situations.
Translated from Paki-speak to plain angrezi above.
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Kashmir Valley gets connected by rail

BANIHAL (J&K): Northern Railways made history on Friday as the first train chugged through India's longest railway tunnel through the Pir Panjal mountain range, connecting Kashmir Valley to Banihal town on Srinagar-Jammu National highway.

The train on a trial run, arrived at Banihal station from Qazigund in Anantnag district of Kashmir.
India's longest rail tunnel opens in Valley

"The Pir Panjal Tunnel is a major part of Udhampur - Srinagar - Baramulla Broad rail line project. It connects the Bichleri valley at the south side with the Kashmir valley on the north side. The nearest town in south and north side is Banihal and Qazigund respectively," said railway officials.
A historic rail link to Kashmir Valley

While the Baramulla-Srinagar-Qazigund link has been functional for the past four years, this was the first time that a train has crossed the mighty Pir Panjal Mountain range.

The highlight of the Qazigund-Banihal link is the 11.21-km tunnel, the longest railway tunnel in India, which has reduced the distance between the two towns by half.

The tunnel, which was constructed by Hindustan Construction Corporation (HCC), will reduce the travel distance between Qazigund and Banihal from 35 kilometres (by road) to just 17.5 kilometres (by train).

The Pir Panjal tunnel, which is the second longest in Asia, is a vital link in the Railways’ dream project of connecting Kashmir to Udhampur in Jammu region.

The tunnel is 8.40 metres wide with a height of 7.39 metres. There is a provision of a three-metre-wide road along the length of the tunnel for the purpose of maintenance and emergency relief.

The rail link will provide an alternative link between Kashmir and rest of the country as the Srinagar-Jammu national highway gets blocked regularly due to heavy snowfall.
Congratulations to all involved.
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The strategic implication of the above rail link are humongous!!!
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are there maps and photos for the above rail link?
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Great news! Something to be proud of for every Indian.Will make integration of Kashmir that much easier.

Great job by our engineers! Well done!

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Muppalla wrote:are there maps and photos for the above rail link?
see this pic.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... t_Map_.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Railway
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Looks like it will be another 5 years for the full Jammu-Srinagar track to be ready:
A long route to Jammu

Though the 53-km Jammu-Udhampur stretch was thrown open several years ago, the biggest challenge for the Railways was the 148 km stretch from Katra in Jammu to Qazigund in Kashmir due to inhospitable terrain and deep gorges. This phase of the project has already missed its deadline, which has now been set for 2017.
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Good work by all.

11 militants eliminated, LeT crippled
Guided by precise ground intelligence based on technical surveillance from the Intelligence Bureau, the Jammu and Kashmir police and Indian Army have been able to inflict serious attrition on Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) cadres in the Valley - killing 11 terrorists, seven of them Pakistan nationals,
this month.

Even though Fahadullah, a so-called divisional commander of LeT, managed to escape during the Sopore encounter on December 18, Iftikhar, a local terror financier from Kulgam, and Bashir Langda, a harbourer, were taken into custody. Nine AK-47 rifles, 26 magazines, 12 hand grenades, five pistols, night vision devices, four GPS instruments and two compasses were recovered from the dead terrorists.

Top government sources said that between December 13-23, the Special Operations Group (SOG) of J&K police managed to hit an LeT group headed by Hanjala Adnan in north Kashmir and Sajid network in south Kashmir. LeT commander Adnan is said to be working under 26/11 accused Muzammil, and is the force behind the north Kashmir operations of the terrorist group.

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Significantly, security forces were able to identify the seven dead Pakistan terrorists killed in the Sopore encounter after LeT's Adnan group put up their names on Facebook this week. Those owned up by LeT have been identified as Faisal Gazali, Wasim Ghauri, Ibrahim, Jamawari, Urfi, Junaid and Nabid.

The first encounter between the SOG and LeT took place on December 13 morning, resulting in the death of Yayah - a Pakistani national - in Cherhar, Sopore. The second encounter took place the same day at Mundiz, in which local LeT cadre Omar Ahsan Butt and an unidentified Pakistani national were killed. On December 18, local LeT cadre Atif Ahmed Dar and five Pakistani LeT terrorists harboured by Bashir Langda were killed. All the nine terrorists were part of the Hanjala Adnan network.
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My prayers to the families of SOG who lost their lives. May they return to Bharat to enjoy their veera swarga.
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NC, Geelani sing same tune
In a synchronised move, possibly to heighten emotions in the run-up to Republic Day, the ruling National Conference and separatist leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani launched fresh attacks on the country’s unity and integrity. Speaking in Srinagar on January 2, National Conference general secretary Sheikh Nazir Ahmad, a close relation of Union Minister Farooq Abdullah, claimed that Jammu & Kashmir acceded to the Indian Union in 1947 on three subjects only.

Pitching for a return to pre-1953 status, he said that according to the Instrument of Accession between New Delhi and Maharaja Hari Singh, the State had acceded to the Indian Union on three subjects: Communication, defence and currency. It is time to call this bluff. First, there was no State of Jammu & Kashmir at the time of accession, but the Kingdom of Jammu & Kashmir; its ruler acceded to India by signing an identical instrument of accession as signed by all other princely states.
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New chief of Pak Taliban faction fought Indian troops
Bahawal Khan, the new chief of a Taliban faction in Pakistan's South Waziristan region after the killing of Mullah Nazir in a US drone strike, is a militant who fought Indian troops in Jammu and Kashmir.

Khan was named the head of the faction shortly after Nazir and 12 other militants were killed in the drone strike in Angoor Adda area on Thursday.

He fought as a militant in Jammu and Kashmir, sources were quoted as saying in Pakistani media reports.

A member of the Kakakhel sub-tribe of the Ahmedzai Wazirs, Khan is an illiterate former bus driver.

The 34-year-old father of two also ran a hotel. He fought alongside the Afghan Taliban before the 9/11 terror attacks.
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So the poor fools have to calim to have fought in J&K to get recognition as Caliph of Taliban!

What proof do they have? It could be hafim induced delusions.
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2 police officers killed in Kashmir attacks
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/04/world ... index.html
The attacks took place Tuesday in districts within about 60 kilometers (37 miles) of the capital, Srinigar -- one in Pulwama District and the other in Kulgam District -- a police spokesman said.
In both cases, the assailants used pistols at close range to fire at the on-duty police officers before fleeing, the police spokesman said. The two officers were taken to hospitals where they died from their injuries, he added.
Were there other police forces in the vicinity? How did the killers escape?
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^^ Am sure both the brave herrows who did this will turn up as a name in a IA/SOG encounter. Would give them 1 week max.
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Baikul wrote:2 police officers killed in Kashmir attacks
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/04/world ... index.html
The attacks took place Tuesday in districts within about 60 kilometers (37 miles) of the capital, Srinigar -- one in Pulwama District and the other in Kulgam District -- a police spokesman said.
In both cases, the assailants used pistols at close range to fire at the on-duty police officers before fleeing, the police spokesman said. The two officers were taken to hospitals where they died from their injuries, he added.
Were there other police forces in the vicinity? How did the killers escape?
This report is dated July, 2012. Not a recent incident.
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^^ Thanks for the correction. My bad.

I had actually gone to a CNN story on the current events on the LOC, and embedded within that story was the police shooting story I referenced. I assumed that the second story was also new.

This was the story on the LOC: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/09/world ... =allsearch

If you click on it, you will find the second story. Fooled me.
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And these scum bags even had their Visas fast tracked by the government of India - what the hell!!!
The separatist Hurriyat Conference refused to divulge any details about its meeting with Lashkar-e-Tayyeba chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, saying people should not make noises about their Islamabad meetings.

"Whoever we meet, we speak our mind right into his heart, why should people make noises for just nothing," said professor Abdul Gani Bhat, senior Hurriyat leader.

Prof. Bhat was part of the seven-member delegation that visited Pakistan from December 15-28, 2012, and met the LeT chief, alleged mastermind of 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, among others.

The other members of the delegation were Hurriyat Conference chairman Dr Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, Bilal Gani Lone, Moulana Abbas Ansari, Aga Syed Al-Hasan, Musadiq Adil and Mukhtar Ahmad Waza.
Lashkar-e-Tayyeba chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed

"How does it matter whom we meet? Whom we meet is not important, what you talk there is important," said Bhat, refusing to divulge what transpired during the meeting.

The Hurriyat describes its meeting with Saeed as unscheduled and says it took place without any government role in the matter.

He said Hurriyat seeks settlement of Kashmir dispute.

"We are not criminals. We are in politics, we represent sentiments. Why should people make it an issue," he insisted.

Mirwaiz was not available for comment.

During their stay in Pakistan, the Hurriyat leaders also met Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari, prime minister Raja Pervez Ashraf, foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar and other officials.

They met Opposition leaders Imran Khan and Mian Nawaz Sharief.

The Hurriyat delegation also met Pakistan Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

Since his return from Islamabad, Mirwaiz has linked resolution of Afghan problem with Kashmir and said India and Pakistan cannot have consensus on Afghanistan unless Kashmir was resolved.

Mirwaiz also calls for dismantling of Line of Control.

CM Omar Abdullah had hailed Mirwaiz for his Pakistan visit and described it as a positive development. :roll:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/in ... ds-newsxml
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For the first time , after so many years, I heard Maroof raza reminding Pakistani Panelists that Pakistan has to follow Part II of UN resolution on Kashmir problem i.e. Pakistan has to withdraw from J&K before any further steps are taken. Panelists kept studied silence. No Kongi would ever dare to mention it any where in the world till his dying day.
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^^^
On top Shimla agreement overrides it. It has to be bilateral and no outside involvement.
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Yawn

Hurriyat in tight-spot for meeting Saeed and Salahuddin
Prior to their trip to Pakistan, the Hurriyat leaders claimed “they will talk business” but many perceived their visit as “remote controlled” in the first place. Now the Indian media is astounded after reports emerged that a Hurriyat delegation also met the alleged “26/11 mastermind Hafiz Saeed and Chief of Hizbul Mujahideen, Syed Salahuddin, on Pakistan soil”.India is firm that Saeed is the “Mumbai attacks mastermind”, but Pakistan maintains there is “lack of evidence” to “prove his guilt” in the court of law.Even the supporters of the larger autonomy to the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir like Dr. Kamal A. Mitra Chenoy, well-known expert in International Affairs, felt “outraged” by the reported meeting of Hurriyat leaders with Saeed and Salahuddin.Prof. Chenoy — Chair, Centre for Comparative Politics and Political Theory, School of International Studies, Jawahar Lal University, New Delhi – opined that it is a case of “bad judgment” on the part of the Hurriyat to meet “terrorists”. “Not only is Hafiz Saeed wanted by India in connection with the Mumbai terror attacks, he is also an international terrorist wanted by the Americans. I’m a supporter of the larger autonomy to Kashmir, but I will be outraged to hear that the Hurriyat leaders from Kashmir have met Saeed in Pakistan,” Prof. Chenoy told Dawn.com on phone from the Indian capital, New Delhi.Several leaders of Hurriyat are married to Pakistani women. They have their family connections with Pakistan. That again is not an issue. Some people in Kashmir were sympathetic towards Hurriyat’s visit, hoping for something positive. But it seems that the Hurriyat has been badly advised by their friends in America and the United Kingdom. Their reported meeting with Saeed has not served any purpose,” Prof. Chenoy added.According to Tehelka, the Hurriyat delegation also met Pakistan Army Chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who reportedly ruled out his country’s support for armed uprising in the Indian-administered part of Kashmir in future. The magazine also said that the meeting with the Pakistan Army Chief in Islamabad was well-publicised, but interactions with Saeed in Lahore and Salahuddin in Islamabad were kept private.
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We have been of the belief that Kashmir is a tripartite issue with the people of Kashmir as its real stakeholders.” This formulation is historically untrue. It is Pakistan and India who have been negotiating on the dispute, albeit with the proviso that the solution must be acceptable to the people. Once they are near a deal each side would take steps to bring Kashmiris on board.Realising the incorrectness of his claim, he added: “But the fact remains that there is no legal sanctity to the people being the main party to the issue.” And, pray, who will represent that party, the Kashmiris, at the conference table? Relatedly, who will decide on the rival claims of the professed representative? In short, who will provide the “legal sanctity” to this claim and how?It cannot be done unilaterally. Will the two countries agree on this process? With time ambition soared. He would mediate. He would “bridge the trust deficit and initiate a new beginning on Kashmir”. Whether the parties will accept his mediation is doubtful.Self-assertion is no substitute for proof as the three tailors of Tooley Street discovered when they marched through the streets of London carrying a placard which proclaimed “We the People of England”.
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Does anyone know how these PigLeTs cross an electric fence without being electrocuted ?
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chaanakya wrote:For the first time , after so many years, I heard Maroof raza reminding Pakistani Panelists that Pakistan has to follow Part II of UN resolution on Kashmir problem i.e. Pakistan has to withdraw from J&K before any further steps are taken. Panelists kept studied silence. No Kongi would ever dare to mention it any where in the world till his dying day.
From link
The Pakistani army also knows that Kashmir is a dead issue for the UN. All UNSC resolutions of 1948 ask Pakistan to vacate PoK. Only then is India obliged to consider (as per the resolutions’ wording) a plebescite. But Indian diplomats rarely contradict the constant falsification of UNSC resolutions on Kashmir by Pakistan’s establishment, media and “liberal” civil society who distort such matters in unison.
sorry if this is referenced from BRF itself. The consideration process is multifaceted, social as well as technical, practical and so on.

Just for the record.
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Sarpanches to be center of new initiative in Kashmir
Shishir Gupta, Hindustan Times
New Delhi, January 22, 2013

With an eye towards possible security fall-out of 2014 US troop-pullout from Afghanistan, Centre is working towards a new initiative in J&K to politically take on separatists in the Valley.

The government’s strategy is to use empowered sarpanches and panches to build a
democratic movement in the valley at the grassroots level.

Top government sources said at the heart of the new plan is that even if each of the 33.500 odd sarpanches and panches have just 100 followers, a political movement of more than 30 lakh people is generated in a 120 lakh population state. Clearly, the hard line separatists understand its political ramifications as Tehreek-e- Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani last week compared the sarpanches and panches to Ikhwanis--a counter-insurgency movement of the 1990s--and in effect being legitimate targets of terrorists.

While discussing the ramifications of the US pull-out with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh this month, the national security managers were of the opinion that a tranquil Line of Control (LoC) was central to peace in the Valley. It was pointed out that armed militant cadres had declined to some 300 in the state and six terrorists had sneaked in from the Poonch sector during the LoC firing this month. Kashmir separatists also saw a political opportunity when they said that LoC firing was part of the Kashmir problem.

In line with the proposed strategy, the Centre is in favour of giving area and not personal security to sarpanches and panches as giving out one gunman to all 33,000 would neither be efficient nor productive. While the state government continues to mull over incorporating elements of the 73rd amendment to further empower the state Panchayats, the UPA feels that sarpanches and panches could be nominated to the Block Development Councils through an ordinance till such time elections take place.
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My name is not Khan, I am Mr Kaul by Tarun Vijay

I am not Khan. My name bears a different set of four letters: K A U L. Kaul. As those who know Indian names would understand I happened to be born in a family which was called Hindu by others. Hence, we were sure, we would never get a friend like KJ to make a movie on our humiliations, and the contemptuous and forced exile from our homeland. It's not fashionable. It's fashionable to get a Khan as a friend and portray his agony and pains and sufferings when he is asked by a US private to take off his shoes and show his socks. Natural and quite justifiable that Khan must feel insulted and enraged. Enough Masala to make a movie.


But unfortunately I am a Kaul. I am not a Khan.


Hence when my sisters and mothers were raped and killed, when six-year-old Seema was witness to the brutal slaughtering of her brother, mother and father with a butcher's knife by a Khan, nobody ever came to make a movie on my agony, pain and anguish, and tears.


No KJ would make a movie on Kashmiri Hindus. Because we are not Khans. We are Kauls.


When we look at our own selves as Kauls, we also see a macabre dance of leaders who people Parliament. Some of them were really concerned about us. They got the bungalows and acres of greenery and had their portraits were worshipped by the gullible devotees of patriotism.


They made reservations in schools and colleges for us. In many many other states. But never did they try that we go back to our homes. They have other priorities and 'love your jihadi neighborhood' programmes. They get flabbier and flabbier with the passing of each year, sit on sacks of sermons; issue instructions to live simply and follow moral principles delivered by ancestors and kept in documents treated with time-tested preservatives.


They could play with me because my name is Kaul. And not Mr Khan. I saw the trailer to this fabulous movie, which must do good business at the box office.


There was not even a hint that terror is bad and it is worse if it is perpetuated in the name of a religion that means Peace. Peace be upon all its followers and all other the creatures too.


So you make a movie on the humiliation of taking off shoes to a foreign police force which has decided not to allow another 9/11.


The humiliation of taking off the shoes and the urge to show that you are innocent is really too deep. But what about the humiliation of leaving your home and hearth and the world and the relatives and wife and mother and father? And being forced to live in shabby tents, at the mercy of nincompoop leaders encashing your misery and bribe-seeking babus? And seeing your daughters growing up too sudden and finding no place to hide your shame?


No KJ would ever come forward to make a movie, a telling, spine-chilling narration on the celluloid, of five-year-old Seema, who saw her parents and brother being slaughtered by a butcher's knife in Doda. Because her dad was not Mr Khan. He was one Mr Kaul.


Sorry, Mr Kaul and your entire ilk. I can't help you.


It's not fashionable to side with those who are Kauls. And Rainas. And Bhatts. Dismissively called KPs. KPs means Kashmiri Pandits. They are a bunch of communalists. They were the agents of one Mr Jagmohan who planned their exodus so that Khans can be blamed falsely. In fact, a movie can be made on how these KPs conspired their own exile to give a bad name to the loving and affectionate Khan brothers of the valley.


To voice the woes of Kauls is sinful. The right course to get counted in the lists of the Prime Minister's banquets and the President's parties is to announce from the roof top: hey, men and ladies, I am Mr Khan.


The biggest apartheid the state observes is to exclude those who cry for Kauls, wear the colours of Ayodhya, love the wisdom of the civilisational heritage, dare to assert as Hindus in a land which is known as Hindustan too and struggle to live with dignity as Kauls. They are out and exiled. You can see any list of honours and invites to summits and late-evening gala parties to toast a new brand. All that the Kauls are allowed is a space at Jantar Mantar: shout, weep and go back to your tents after a tiring demonstration. Mr Kaul, you have got a wrong name.


A dozen KJs would fly to take you atop the glory - posts and gardens of sympathies if you accept to wear a Khan name and love a Sunita, Pranita, Komal or a Kamini. Well, here you have a sweetheart in Mandira. That goes well with the story.


And you pegged the movie plot on autism.


I wept. It was too much. I wept as a father of a son who needed a story as an Indian. Who cares for his autistic son, his relationship with the western world, his love affair with a young sweet something as a human, as someone whose heart goes beyond being a Hindu, a Muslim or a proselytizing Vatican-centric aggressive soul. Not the one who would declare in newspaper interviews: "I think I am an ambassador for Islam". Shah Rukh is Shah Rukh, not because he is an ambassador for Islam. If that was true, he could have found a room in Deoband. Fine enough. But he became a heartthrob and a famousl star because he is a great actor. He owes everything he has to Indians and not just to Muslims. We love him not because he is some Mr Khan. We love him because he has portrayed the dreams, aspirations, pains, anguish and ups and downs of our daily life. As an Indian. As one of us.


If he wants to use our goodwill and love for strengthening his image as an ambassador for Islam, will we have to think to put up an ambassador for Hindus? That, at least to me, would be unacceptable because I trust everyone: a Khan or a Kaul or a Singh or a Victor. Who represents India represents us all too, including Hindus. My best ambassadorship would be an ambassadorship for the tricolour and not for anything else because I see my Ram and Dharma in that. I don't think even an Amitabh or a Hritik would ever think in terms Shah Rukh has chosen for himself. But shouldn't these big, tall, successful Indians who wear Hindu names make a movie on why Kauls were ousted? Why Godhra occurred in the first place? Why nobody, yes, not a single Muslim, comes forward to take up the cause of the exiled and killed and contemptuously marginalized Kauls whereas every Muslim complainant would have essentially a Hindu advocate to take on Hindus as fiercely as he can?


If you are Mr Khan and found dead on the railway tracks, the entire nation would be shaken. And he was also a Rizwan. May be just a coincidence that our Mr Khan in the movie is also a Rizwan.


Rizwan's death saw the police commissioner punished and cover stories written by missionary writers. But if you are a Sharma or a Kaul and happened to love an Ameena Yusuf in Srinagar, you would soon find your corpse inside the police thana and NONE, not even a small-time local paper would find it worthwhile to waste a column on you. No police constable would be asked to explain how a wrongly detained person was found dead in police custody?


Because the lover found dead inside a police thana was not Mr Khan. No KJ would ever come forward to make a movie on 'My name is Kaul. And I am terror-struck by Khans'.


Give me back my identity as an Indian, Mr. Khan and I would have no problem even wearing your name and appreciating the tender love of an autistic son.
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Thank you, Jamwal ji for sharing the above article.
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shyamd wrote:Does anyone know how these PigLeTs cross an electric fence without being electrocuted ?
Is it a rhetorical question ? :oops:
Fence keeps on taking damage due to natural elements as well as sabotage. The terrain itself is highly rugged and it's not difficult for a determined person to cross it using tunnels, ladders, cutters and what not.

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We can use this on LOC?


http://mashable.com/2013/01/29/worlds-h ... ed-camera/
Drones are already widely-used tools for surveillance. They're routinely sent to spy in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and even on the U.S.-Mexico border. Soon enough, their civilian counterparts could fly over your city too. But drone cameras are still somewhat limited. Not the ARGUS-IS, the highest resolution camera ever made, however. With its 1.8 gigapixels mounted on a drone, its spying power it's equal to 100 Predator drones flying over a mid-sized city.
The ARGUS, which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Agency (DARPA), has an impressive range. It can cover up to 15 square miles with extreme accuracy. Its resolution allows it to spot objects as small as six inches from 17,500 feet of altitude. SEE ALSO: MPAA Wants to Use Drones to Shoot Movies
With such a high resolution, the ARGUS also requires a lot of storage capacity. In fact, it can stash away 1 million terabytes every day. And it also live streams footage to the ground, allowing an operator to monitor a large area with just one camera. In case you're wondering if the ARGUS camera is currently used either abroad or in the U.S., we're not allowed to know the answer; that information is classified.
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^^ jamwal, India is essentially a nation without conscience. It does not remember its past or feel proud about its hero's or history. Continuos rape of its civilisation by outside forces have left an indelible mark where the whole society is divided in every possible ways.
It may take hundreds of years for India and Indians to develop a national conscience.

Unfortunately this means that there will be no one to help Kashmiri pandits but themselves.

It will take time perhaps hundreds of years when pandits will be strong enough return to their land like Jews did but when they will there will be nothing that will ever be able to take their forefathers land from them. To my mind exodus of pandits from Kashmir is no different from exodus of Jews.

If I don't live on this land to see Kashmiri pandits back in their ancestral land I will pass this legend to my next generation to do all they can to assist my pandit brothers and sisters in every small way they can to achieve their dream.
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This is just a hunch, but are the beheadings linked to the piglet pest removal spree that was going on?
I mean the army raked up a lot of numbers, so there can be a response from the jihadi kamandus, either uniformed or non-uniformed. And the attack happened in a different sector than the shooting and shelling.
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Centre okay with granting passport to Syed Geelani
New Delhi, February 01, 2013
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Even though the Centre is in no hurry to engage the Kashmir separatist Hurriyat Conference in a dialogue, it has no objection to issuance of passport to pro-Pakistan Tehreek-e-Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani for travelling to Islamabad or any other third country.

Geelani had last applied for passport in 2011.

Top sources said despite Omar Abdullah government advocating that the Centre or Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in particular engage the Hurriyat, the UPA government is yet to firm up its view on the need to hold talks with Kashmir separatists, considering their weakening hold in the Valley.

Rather than holding talks the Hurriyat leaders, the Centre is now focusing on PDP leader Mufti Mohammed Sayeed’s demand for elections to the block development councils.


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In this context, the Centre is open to the idea of Geelani travelling to Pakistan at his convenience. The pro-Pakistan leader blamed New Delhi for not issuing passport to him.

Geelani wanted to travel to Pakistan to mourn the death of Jamait-e-Islami leader Qazi Hussain Ahmed this month, but he apparently ignored the invitation from Pakistan foreign minister to travel with other Hurriyat leaders in December 2012.

It is understood that Pakistan high commissioner to India Salman Bashir went to the Malviya Nagar flat of Geelani last November to convince him after the visit dates were finalised by Islamabad.

At a time when self-appointed Kashmir interlocutors are pushing the UPA government to engage the Hurriyat, Kashmir watchers in the home ministry feel that it is a waste of time given that the separatists largely represent the view of Pakistan in Srinagar.

If Geelani was so keen to travel to Pakistan to mourn Qazi Hussain Ahmed, he should have pressed hard for passport and it would have been issued,” a senior official said.
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This Gilanimal must die disappointed man , lets hope he lives long . :evil:
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Shhh.... The Indian passport is quoted with anti-fertility serum and long-endurance cow urine.
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meanwhile the person who issued the fatwa Bashiruddin says that the fatwa was not exclusively aimed at the girls but was meant for everyone.
He denounced music and singing, saying it is a step towards “national destruction”.
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“It is for everyone, it is not only for girls. It is for every community whether they be Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus or Christians. Everyone has to live within the limits of discipline here,” the Grand Mufti said when asked if his fatwa was limited to girls only.
controversy, meanwhile, refuses to die down as another politico-religious group in the region today denounced the girls, saying that the "Shariah", or Islamic law, prohibits “immodest activity, which includes obscene dancing”.

“The Shariah strictly prohibits every immodest activity which includes obscene dancing, in particular dancing of women in presence of men,” the Jamaat-e-Islami said.

The Jamaat also lashed out at the Chief Minister, saying that his support to the rock band “depicts his total ignorance”. “It would be advisable for him (Omar) to spend at least one hour reading the Koran if he is interested in leading a life of a Muslim,” the group said.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20130205/j&k.htm#5
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ashish raval wrote:^^ jamwal, India is essentially a nation without conscience. It does not remember its past or feel proud about its hero's or history. Continuos rape of its civilisation by outside forces have left an indelible mark where the whole society is divided in every possible ways.
It may take hundreds of years for India and Indians to develop a national conscience.
At the current pace of demographic changes, there wont be an India of the current demographic profile in a hundred years. We would be at best like a Hispanic majority US in 2040, at a mid level a Nigeria with xtians and muslims battling each other and at worst a small portion somewhere in Gujarat or Karnataka with the last remaining Hindus huddled together forming a Hindu Israel.
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Yogi_G wrote:
ashish raval wrote:^^ jamwal, India is essentially a nation without conscience. It does not remember its past or feel proud about its hero's or history. Continuos rape of its civilisation by outside forces have left an indelible mark where the whole society is divided in every possible ways.
It may take hundreds of years for India and Indians to develop a national conscience.
At the current pace of demographic changes, there wont be an India of the current demographic profile in a hundred years. We would be at best like a Hispanic majority US in 2040, at a mid level a Nigeria with xtians and muslims battling each other and at worst a small portion somewhere in Gujarat or Karnataka with the last remaining Hindus huddled together forming a Hindu Israel.
If the Hindus of this country don't unite now, I see the bold part as the most probable in the next 100-200 years. I wonder, even then, would the surviving ones would take this trouble or simply give in i.e. convert.
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Jhujar wrote:This Gilanimal must die disappointed man , lets hope he lives long . :evil:
Exactly right. They will, each one of them, die defeated and disappointed men - weakened and irrelevant in the eyes of their peers and an embarrassment to their families. :twisted:
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Notice J&K in map. True KhanGrass

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