The Levant crisis.(Israel,SYRIA,Lebanon,etc) - II

Suresh S · Post by **Suresh S** » 21 Feb 2016 05:20

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Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 21 Feb 2016 05:47

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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 06:08

Banned for 1 month. Second case would be permanent ban

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 21 Feb 2016 09:34

Some saudi passing gas, claims has nukular bum, will test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeGCUE ... e=youtu.be

if indeed they have obtained a green latrine and painted it over then best for it to all come out.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 09:58

Let's hope they test...will set off a chain reaction

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 21 Feb 2016 11:07

On one hand it eggsplains salman's choices, on the other hand a bum is useless for anyone eggcept russia and amrika. Not even china, let alone cheese eaters or pig lovers. The sdre bum similarly is pointless given the 1B+ and utter lack of political spine. the saudis think that chinese and hoko mijjiles with green bums will give them bakistani naughtiness coefficient then they are mistaken. will find out the hard way. china needs bakistan, they dont need arapia for anything. given the harm it would cause amrikan interests if the gelf were to be suitably redefined chinese would happily light the fuse themselves.

the real troubling notion, after the martial ground forces fizzled out, is manpads. Misphortunately, escalation is a two way street. i do hope the ijjrailis and saudis and turkiis salivating over manpads dont try this. it will come back to bite their behinds sooner than they imagine.

in this election year, us is not fighting a war. even for ijrail, let alone turkii. amrika has a hard time appointing a replacement for a dead judge! that is a huge vaccum. visible lack of "back" for turkii and ijrail and saudi. ijraiil losing its nuts over minor tract of land and making an enemy out of russia would be huge. for syria. for lebanon, for jordan. for egypt. for palestine.

i dont see the ijrailis publicly dropping their objections against manpads. but if they show up then you know they were ok with it.

a manpad would remove the restrictions on vodka flow now imposed. and for chairs with arms, produce a lot of lessons. shall we see them or not?

by the way, there arent any remaining fighters in the aleppo pocket. a lot of map making is just silly. like making all of idlib green/rebel. or most of the sand black. there is nobody actually holding the empty tracts.

the moment raqqa and idlib are flattened its all back to red again. these map makers are trying to portay a khalistan style terrorist movement into a LTTE or east ukraine type border redrawing. In most cases, the SAA not wanting to fight for giving turkii an excuse was the reason locals raised the various flags. The next truck driving through town can take them down.

If they can secure truckable border --mine it from the air noko/soko style, they will be far more peaceful than iraq will ever be. if they want total silence then they will have to pay back in the same coin at source. just like europe/west is doing in middle east with reasonable success until turki started acting naughty with refugees.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 21 Feb 2016 11:13

udaym wrote:
TSJones wrote:which none of you will have to worry about because none of your children will ever go into the military.....
I would imagine it is much bigger problem at home?

And while we are at it, might I suggest that he also watch "Lions for Lambs"? A Robert Redford movie...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 16:10

Azaz el bab deir hafr has Isis
Jarablous manbij has Isis
Rest of black 100km between these two vertical lines is hinterland no major towns ...if either of these two lines are rolled up or breached the black swamp will turn red or yellow in two weeks

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 16:14

We already see black swamp of south hasakah got drained in 72 hrs by a rag tag sdf much weaker than SAA....almost no resistance.

Despite all time in world Isis unable to capture deir azor

Like TSP they are not as strong as they look

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 21 Feb 2016 16:53

Singha wrote:We already see black swamp of south hasakah got drained in 72 hrs by a rag tag sdf much weaker than SAA....almost no resistance.

Despite all time in world Isis unable to capture deir azor

Like TSP they are not as strong as they look

YPG has manpower abundance on every front unlike SAA. They did this by incorporating women very early in the conflict. Their weapons are as good as SAA save on heavy arty where help has come (limited) from both US and Russia,

Their level of training is no different from the freshly trained SAA troops in the last one year. SAA has lost most of its old core army troops and now is mostly conscripted recruits. YPG is still voluntary which creates a big difference in quality.

ISIS has one strength - their readiness to die. While this is also abhorrent, it is a tactics which allows them to bomb / hit otherwise seemingly impregnable fortresses.

Once this explosive tactics is neutralized by using tactics to stop the suicide attacks at a fair distance, their battle moves are very ordinary. Massed, swarm attacks, at night, repeated every time, always proceeded by VBIED/s attacks. SAA or RuAF needs long endurance UCAVs holding over favourite target areas and these rats will not be able to counter.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 21 Feb 2016 16:57

Homs has seen a double bomb attack in a city area. More than 40 dead.

Most ISIS escaped the siege in east Aleppo yesterday and today SAA is capturing most areas with little resistance but have been clearing a lot of IEDs.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 21 Feb 2016 19:35

President Putin: Russia will bomb Saudi Arabia back to the Stone Age life unless Riyadh desists from supporting terrorism
Could not agree more with the Russian leader ; hope this plan materializes within our lifetime !

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 20:23

3 more explosions in damascus near a hospital

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 20:26

iran pres rouhani meets omani delegation today

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 2h2 hours ago
#SyAAF drop leaflets over #Jisr_Shughour area calling for militants to surrender

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 20:29

tiger forces slowly seeping up toward El Bab

Haidar Sumeri ‏@IraqiSecurity 4h4 hours ago
Da'ish defences in eastern #Aleppo collapse (~700 fled) as #Syria's Tiger Forces capture the vital Al-Safira Plains.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 20:30

Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 4h4 hours ago
While there is a lot to be happy about, I always forget about east Homs & Deir Ezzor. These are the toughest to liberate from ISIS

Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 4h4 hours ago
I doubt we go after Al-Bab next. I predict Deir Hafer because of the operations to capture Tabaqa in the south. Best to flank ISIS there

Leith Abou Fadel ‏@leithfadel 4h4 hours ago
Lol I thought ISIS doesn't retreat? Cause they ran away like sissies the night before being encircled.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 20:33

if we compare this map to the google maps, they are some 10km away from the point where small road splits off north toward Tabqah. overall 40km from the target.

https://www.google.co.in/maps/@35.64002 ... .25z?hl=en

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 21 Feb 2016 20:39

capture of AL bab or Deir hafr or both would mostly end the ISIS oil route through Azaz to the turkish black market.

another 20km beyond deir hafr they would cut the two routes going up to manbij - that would mean the end of ISIS oil trade as the lake assad front, tishreen dam and M4 bridge east of manbij are all under YPG control on eastern bank.

probably in 2-3 months ISIS would finally be under pressure in Raqqa and Deir.

whether they are chased out of north syria depends on whether the "moderate" rebels attack ISIS (with US support?) or they & turks are asked to sit this out and SDF does it with air support from US and Russia...incl a "passage through lines" of YPG through the little green azaz pocket to push the ISIS back to the river and pincer by SAA from east aleppo.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 21 Feb 2016 20:53

The distance of SAA frontlines to AL Bab is more than that of Dier Haffer. Plus at Dier Haffer the SAA needs to increase the cushion between the air base to the ISIS front lines. A fully functional, out of ISIS mortar range Kuweiris air base will be useful in assault both up north and down south. It is also well clear of Turkey's hanky panky.

On the other hand keeping Al Bab and Manbij active simultaneously by both SAA and YPG will dilute ISIS resistance to SAA assault on Dier Haffer.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 21 Feb 2016 21:19

FInally PetoLucem got the map out for Tabqah advance by SAA

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 21 Feb 2016 21:32

SDF / YPG have moved 16 kms south from Al Shaddadi town towards Dier Ez Zor. In response ISIS have gathered a large force to counter YPG advance at Hasakah

Dr Partizan
‏@DrPartizan_
SDF forces have now advanced 16km past Shaddadi towards city of Deir Ezzor.

Abdel Rahman
‏@VivaRevolt
ISIS is amassing Huge Forces in Markadah in order to launch a counter-offensive to help their commando and hidden forces in Shaddadi

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 21 Feb 2016 21:37

Check this tweet for the video

https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/stat ... 6623020035

The 'Nimr' Tiger
‏@Souria4Syrians
Awesome shot YPG destroy ISIS vbied somewhere near #Shadaddi in Hasakah. Vehicle continues driving to "72 virgins"

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 21 Feb 2016 22:34

ISIS is amassing Huge Forces

Isn't that what Air Marshal Smirnoff is waiting for? Backfires on the way? With Hinds to go through and deliver the coup-de-grace? Nah! Some good fuel-air explosives would be so much cleaner

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 21 Feb 2016 23:36

FAE much better option to purify them for Tool-less arrival in Jannat to deny the Khwab of Reward for Retards.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 22 Feb 2016 03:58

has king salman the strap-on thrust manfully into syria yet?
maybe woh erdogan ka shaiyar hai, erdogan uski kahani hai?
<< plij to finish >>

perhaps vlad the bad will have to step in...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 22 Feb 2016 07:14

I dont understand one thing. the highway through shahdadi to mosul passes through sinjar which was taken months ago by YPG.
yet they still say now the highway to mosul via shahdadi has been blocked as a achievement.

does that mean ISIS has other smaller routes through nineveh to mosul they use as they wish without any attacks by the usaf ?

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 22 Feb 2016 07:21

Singha wrote:I dont understand one thing. the highway through shahdadi to mosul passes through sinjar which was taken months ago by YPG.
yet they still say now the highway to mosul via shahdadi has been blocked as a achievement.

does that mean ISIS has other smaller routes through nineveh to mosul they use as they wish without any attacks by the usaf ?

Yes. The barren flat landscape allows one to just drive through the deserts. On LiveMap, etc. if you zoom in sufficiently enough, the desert is full of vehicle tracks, specially in the gap in Mosul - Shaddadi connection.

BTW, PetoLucem was right that SAA will need to strengthen Ithriya - Khanessar highway before Tabqah. ISIS has taken a village on the highway from SAA and now the SAA link to Aleppo is broken. I am sure they will strike heavily to retake this point but the SAA has a weakness on this road right from Ithriya to Khanessar.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 22 Feb 2016 07:32

this highway stretch was attacked and cut temporarily even during the north aleppo ops once.

cleaning up the triangle between tabqah, ithriah and deir hafar is a inevitable operation need now.

YPG can go after Al bab (by passing through the lines of SAA in north and east aleppo) and manbij.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 22 Feb 2016 07:33

ISIS also retains a powerful and poisonous pocket in east homs nobody has been able to dislodge.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 22 Feb 2016 07:37

Jisr Al Shughour is being primed for an attack. An SAA offensive is a given that leaflets are being dropped around the town asking Jaish Al Fateh fighters to surrender.

habal · Post by **habal** » 22 Feb 2016 09:14

So bombs go off killing hundred and western media is completely mum on human rights abuses.

only issue they have is Russian air strikes killing civilians.

habal · Post by **habal** » 22 Feb 2016 09:16

Singha wrote:ISIS also retains a powerful and poisonous pocket in east homs nobody has been able to dislodge.

they have access to quite a few hills from where they can fire TOWs. Eastern homs needs more numbers which SAA may not be able to spare for now.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 22 Feb 2016 09:29

habal wrote:So bombs go off killing hundred and western media is completely mum on human rights abuses.

only issue they have is Russian air strikes killing civilians.

More than 200 civilians killed in yesterdays multiple terrorist strike across Syria yesterday. All attacks on government controlled areas.

habal · Post by **habal** » 22 Feb 2016 09:50

they have even given up pretense of neutrality where ISIS is concerned.

it's as if it is normal thing for them to do.

then Mr. Obama comes up like clown and crows about how USA is the greatest country in the world and leads the greatest allies in the world. There is something really wrong with that kind of 'leadership'. It's like they are not only inhuman but also depraved.

As a result, most humans are slowly losing their ability to hold a moral compass or to see what is right. Most people know something is wrong, but they are clearly jumbled up when it comes to identifying who is doing this wrong, and what wrong they are perpetrating.

15 more years of this 'American-led century' and most likely humanity IQ will come down by 15 points collectively.

deejay wrote: More than 200 civilians killed in yesterdays multiple terrorist strike across Syria yesterday. All attacks on government controlled areas.

& how much of this could be because the 'ceasefire bs' allowed some dodgy civilians to come in near these govt controlled areas. The amnesty given to rats in East damascus, & homs will come to bite slowly one at a time in form of bombs.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 22 Feb 2016 10:19

I wonder how RuAF co-ordinated ground strikes with SAA , Neither Syria or Russian have jointly trained for many years and nor do they have a military cohesion like NATO or CSTO and to less extent SCO where they train a lot and combat ops , joint workmanship is developed over many years of training and knowing each other.

All they have is a joint command center in Iraq and they manage to fight so effectively using RuAF in Air and SAA on ground .......that itself should be something to take away in this campaign.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 22 Feb 2016 10:39

RuAF has gone about it very professionally. They came into Syria and took about a month (or 03 weeks) prior to starting the air campaign. Familiarised with the territory, local weather and ops requirements.

Initially and probably even today, they did not use Syrian intel or targets as designated by Syrians. They gather their own intel and identify their own targets to attack.

Slowly, their ground advisers integrated with SAA+ on all fronts and became the focal point of air strike coordination.

The slow build up and gradual escalation between the SAA and RuAF had evolved to a point where RuAF attacked targets with SyAF escorts.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 22 Feb 2016 10:50

Unlike Gulf wars and others fought to the NATO gang, this war by Russia is not a Video Game War. There is no big bang news items, no special effects like "Wag the Dog" movie.

I think it is more like Karpov or Capablanca style war.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 22 Feb 2016 11:13

14 kia in clashes in benghazi yesterday

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 22 Feb 2016 12:05

deejay wrote:RuAF has gone about it very professionally. They came into Syria and took about a month (or 03 weeks) prior to starting the air campaign. Familiarised with the territory, local weather and ops requirements.

Initially and probably even today, they did not use Syrian intel or targets as designated by Syrians. They gather their own intel and identify their own targets to attack.

Slowly, their ground advisers integrated with SAA+ on all fronts and became the focal point of air strike coordination.

The slow build up and gradual escalation between the SAA and RuAF had evolved to a point where RuAF attacked targets with SyAF escorts.

True and Well Said.

I think in the end SAA is fighting for their country , if they loose they loose they life their family and country much like North Vietnamese while the others are just fighting for power which even if they get it will end up in infighting and bloodshed.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 22 Feb 2016 12:13

The Tu-214R is being used in Syria for Air Strikes per chat at keypubs

Tu-214R - http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-661.html

Tu-214R is a JSTAR aircraft has radar on both the side of fuselage , Plus Radar on Rear end of fuselage and EO sensor just below to nose , EO sensor include Thermal Channel , Panaromic Telivision and Digital Photo

SC "Radio Engineering Corporation" Vega "The equipment set includes:. - Multi-frequency radio engineering complex MRK-411 includes several radars with phased side (2 radars on the sides) and circular (radar under the fuselage in the tail of the plane) review; radio engineering complex developed by FSUE "TSNIRI them. . Academician A.I.Berga "on OCD" Franktsiya-4KRR "complex provides information both in active and passive mode As the equipment allows the interception of radio transmissions.. Range RTK detection - up to 250 km at an altitude of 9000-12000 m (estimated, source )

Specifications:
Working spectral range:
- Digital fotokanal - 0.6 ... 0.9 mm
- thermal imaging channel - 3,7 ... 4,8 m
- panoramic television channel - 0.4 ... 0.7 mm
field of view:
- in the longitudinal plane - ± 15 degrees
- in the transverse plane - ± 80 °
Focal length:
- digital fotokanal - 1750 mm
- thermal imaging channel - 373 mm
- panoramic television channel plavnoizmenyaemoe - 10 ... 100 mm