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Recognition accorded yet again for the demonstration of the “Jihad fi Sabilillah” or “Jihad in the path of Allah” portion of the motto of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The malign role of the Inter-Service Intelligence Directorate (ISI) in keeping the Islamic Terrorist Afghan Taliban alive is exposed. This time around in testimony before the Canadian Parliament by Christopher Alexander who has spent six years working in Afghanistan — first as Canada's ambassador, and then as an UN envoy :
Monday, June 14, 2010

Pakistan support keeps Taliban alive: Former diplomat

By BRIAN LILLEY, QMI Agency
Last Updated: June 14, 2010 8:05pm


OTTAWA – Pakistan must stop helping the Taliban if Afghanistan is to ever see peace, said a former Canadian and United Nations diplomat.

Christopher Alexander who spent six years working in Afghanistan — first as Canada's ambassador, and then as a UN envoy — says the Taliban would have folded up shop by now were it not for the support given to the insurgency group by Pakistan's military establishment, especially the Directorate for Inter-Service Intelligence.

Alexander made the explosive comments Monday before the Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defence. ………………

Toronto Sun
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Look, when the motto of the national army is "Jihad in the way of Allah", where the largest newspaper group is called "Jang" (War), and where everyday brands for soaps and other such sundries go by the name of "Kalashnikov" and so on... you know you have a psychopathic country with a suicidal leadership on your hands. It is only a matter of figuring out how to deal with them before they nuke someone. First, however, you have to recognise the nature of the state. That is a hard thing to do for democracies. It was hard in the early 1940s, and it is hard now. But recognition will come. Painfully slowly. Someone will probably have to be nuked first. It is an even call on whether it will be Yindoo or Yankee or Yehudi.
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^ nicely put. I think, even the failed attempt of penetrating nukes to US or Europe could do the tricks i guess. Going by the yardstick of Uncle sitting quiet till Headley started targetting Danish country, we comes only last in the scale.
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The Canadian Press on the “schizophrenic relationship” between the intelligence agencies of supposed allies in the war against Islamic Terrorism, the US’s Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI):
On front line in war on terrorism, it's spy vs. spy among supposed friends CIA and Pakistan

By Adam Goldman (CP) – 40 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — A Pakistani man approached CIA officers in Islamabad last year, offering to give up secrets of his country's closely guarded nuclear program. To prove he was a trustworthy source, he claimed he had spent nuclear fuel rods.

But the CIA had its doubts. Before long, the suspicious officers had concluded that Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence, was trying to run a double agent against the them.

CIA officers alerted their Pakistani counterparts. Pakistan promised to look into the matter and, with neither side acknowledging the man was a double agent, the affair came to a polite, quiet end.

The incident, recounted by former U.S. officials, underscores the schizophrenic relationship with one of America's most crucial counterterrorism allies. Publicly, officials credit Pakistani collaboration with helping kill and capture numerous al-Qaida and Taliban leaders. Privately, that relationship is often marked by mistrust as the two countries wage an aggressive spy battle against each other.

The CIA has repeatedly tried to penetrate the ISI and learn more about Pakistan's nuclear program; and the ISI has mounted its own operations to gather intelligence on the CIA's counterterrorism activities in the tribal lands and figure out what the CIA knows about the nuclear program.

Bumping up against the ISI is a way of life for the CIA in Pakistan, the agency's command centre for recruiting spies in the country's lawless tribal regions ..................................

The Canadian Press
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X Posted from the Baloch genocide thread.

A Baloch / Baluch Human Rights organization accuses the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, particularly its security agencies the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) and Military Intelligence (MI). of involvement in the assassination of veteran Blochi / Baluchi politician Habib Jalib Baloch through “proxy death squads”:
Balochistan: Human Rights Council condemns Assassination

Thursday, 15 July 2010 ………………….

Baloch Human Rights Council (UK) strongly condemns the assassination of prominent Baloch nationalist politician Habib Jalib Baloch, Secretary General of the Balochistan National Party (BNP) on Wednesday 14 July 2010. BHRC (UK) strongly condemns the inhuman tactics of the Pakistani State Establishment of physically eliminating prominent nationalist leaders through the “proxy death squads” operating on behalf of security agencies like Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) and Military Intelligence (MI) in Balochistan. ………………

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Head of Iran’s Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, Alaeddin Boroujerdi, on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s links to terrorism via that country‘s Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) :
'Terrorists enter Iran via Pakistan'
Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:56:26 GMT

A senior Iranian lawmaker says terrorists enter Iran from Pakistan and other neighboring countries, urging Pakistan's Inter-Service Intelligence to reconsider its relations with militants. …………………….

On July 15, two bomb explosions in quick succession took place outside the Zahedan Grand Mosque. At least 27 people lost their lives and more than 100 others were injured in the terrorist attack, which has widely been blamed on extremist Wahabis and Salafis trained by US intelligence in Pakistan.

"The Pakistani government and the country's Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) which have relations with terrorists must reconsider and take necessary measure to confront these criminals," Fars News Agency quoted Boroujerdi as saying. ………………..........

Press TV, Iran
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arun wrote:Al Jazeera interview of Matt Waldman author of the above mentioned report on the intimate links between the Islamic Republic of Pakistan via the ISI and the Afghan Taliban posted on Youtube :

Matt Waldman on Taliban-ISI links
Page 7:
Almost all the Taliban commanders interviewed believe the ISI are represented on the Quetta
Shura. One senior southern commander said: ‘Every group commander knows the reality –
which is obvious to all of us – that the ISI is behind the Taliban, they formed and are
supporting the Taliban.’ He also explained why it was not widely known: ‘Every commander
knows about the involvement of the ISI in the leadership but we do not discuss it because we
do not trust each other, and they are much stronger than us. They are afraid that if they say
anything against the Taliban or ISI it would be reported to the higher ranks – and they may be
removed or assassinated ... Everyone sees the sun in the sky but cannot say it is the sun.’
This is like those criminal enterprise novels or mafia gangsters stories. There is a dark room and a committee decides all activities. No one in the organization talks any thing because on one knows who is friend of who or who is enemy of who. The mafia wants to take over the world.

This has become a real scenario. :((
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Mullah Omar could be the ISI rep.
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vijayk wrote: Al Jazeera interview of Matt Waldman author of the above mentioned report on the intimate links between the Islamic Republic of Pakistan via the ISI and the Afghan Taliban posted on Youtube :

‘Every group commander knows the reality –
which is obvious to all of us – that the ISI is behind the Taliban, they formed and are
supporting the Taliban.’ He also explained why it was not widely known:


This is like those criminal enterprise novels or mafia gangsters stories. There is a dark room and a committee decides all activities. No one in the organization talks any thing because on one knows who is friend of who or who is enemy of who. The mafia wants to take over the world.
Uncle was involved in this Taliban ISI enterprise right from 1996. So to make sure there is no links they have come out asap so that only ISI is under scrutiny.

The wide publicity to Taliban in the 90s from the western press to give them credibility has been used for WOT.
Al Queda is another concoction.
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X Posted, with a hat tip to Vivek_A.

US military intelligence reports made available to the Guardian accuse the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) spy agency of “arming, training and financing the Taliban insurgency since 2004”:
Afghanistan war logs: Clandestine aid for Taliban bears Pakistan's fingerprints

Pakistan's ISI spy agency accused of poison beer plot against troops and scheme to kill Hamid Karzai

Declan Walsh
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 25 July 2010 22.11 BST

A stream of US military intelligence reports accuse Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) spy agency of arming, training and financing the Taliban insurgency since 2004, the war logs reveal, bringing fresh scrutiny on one of the war's most contentious issues.

At least 180 files contain allegations of dirty tricks by the powerful agency with accounts of undercover agents training suicide bombers, bundles of money slipping across the border and covert support for a range of sensational plots including the assassination of President Hamid Karzai, attacks on Nato warplanes and even poisoning western troops' beer supply.

They also link the ISI to some of the war's most notorious commanders. In April 2007 for instance, the ISI is alleged to have sent 1,000 motorbikes to the warlord Jalaluddin Haqqani for suicide attacks in Khost and Logar provinces.

But for all their eye-popping details, the intelligence files, which are mostly collated by junior officers relying on informants and Afghan officials, fail to provide a convincing smoking gun for ISI complicity. Most of the reports are vague, filled with incongruent detail, or crudely fabricated. The same characters – famous Taliban commanders, well-known ISI officials – and scenarios repeatedly pop up. And few of the events predicted in the reports subsequently occurred.
Excerpt on Islamic Terrorism fomented by the ISI against India in Afghanistan:
…………… plots to attack Indian facilities in Afghanistan provide some of the most plausible allegations in the files. One report from November 2007 said the ISI was plotting an attack on the Indian consulate in Jalalabad; another, titled "ISI order murder and kidnappings", has the agency offering between $15,000 and $30,000 for the assassination of Indian road workers.
Read it all:

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X Posted with a hat tip to JRJ Rao.

The New York Times on the links between the Islamic Republic of Pakistan‘s spy agency, the ISI and terrorism in Afghanistan:
Pakistan Aids Insurgency in Afghanistan, Reports Assert

By MARK MAZZETTI, JANE PERLEZ, ERIC SCHMITT and ANDREW W. LEHREN

Published: July 25, 2010

Americans fighting the war in Afghanistan have long harbored strong suspicions that Pakistan’s military spy service has guided the Afghan insurgency with a hidden hand, even as Pakistan receives more than $1 billion a year from Washington for its help combating the militants, according to a trove of secret military field reports made public Sunday.

The documents, made available by an organization called WikiLeaks, suggest that Pakistan, an ostensible ally of the United States, allows representatives of its spy service to meet directly with the Taliban in secret strategy sessions to organize networks of militant groups that fight against American soldiers in Afghanistan, and even hatch plots to assassinate Afghan leaders. ………………….

Behind the scenes, both Bush and Obama administration officials as well as top American commanders have confronted top Pakistani military officers with accusations of ISI complicity in attacks in Afghanistan, and even presented top Pakistani officials with lists of ISI and military operatives believed to be working with militants. ……………………….

New York Times
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X Posted.

Der Spiegel on the leak of 92,000 classified US documents regarding the Afghan insurgency which among other shows the Islamic Republic of Pakistan fomenting Islamic Terrorism in Afghanistan:

Explosive Leaks Provide Image of War from Those Fighting It

Der Spiegel has a specific section dealing with the role of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s ISI spy agency in fomenting Islamic Terrorism in Afghanistan. An excerpt:
The Secret Enemy in Pakistan

The Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan's secret service, originally helped to build up and deploy the Taliban after Afghanistan descended into a bitter and fratricidal civil war between the mujahedeen who had prevailed over the Soviets and forced their withdrawal. Despite all of the reassurances from Pakistani politicians that the old ties are cut, the country is still pursuing an ambiguous policy in the region -- at once serving as both an ally to the US and as a helper to its enemy.
There is plenty of new evidence to support this thesis. The documents clearly show that the Pakistani intelligence agency is the most important accomplice the Taliban has outside of Afghanistan. The war against the Afghan security forces, the Americans and their ISAF allies is still being conducted from Pakistan.

The country is an important safe haven for enemy forces -- and serves as a base for issuing their deployment. New recruits to the Taliban stream across the Pakistan-Afghan border, including feared foreign fighters -- among them Arabs, Chechnyans, Uzbekis, Uighurs and even European Islamists.

According to the war logs, the ISI envoys are present when insurgent commanders hold war councils -- and even give specific orders to carry out murders. These include orders to try to assassinate Afghan President Hamid Karzai. For example, a threat report dated August 21, 2008 warned: "Colonel Mohammad Yusuf from the ISI had directed Taliban official Maulawi Izzatullah to see that Karzai was assassinated."
Read the section:

The Secret Enemy in Pakistan
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^^ Its time for India to seize this opportunity. Swing public opinion decisively. No point in sitting quietly and watching this show unfold.
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'ISI had free hand to aid insurgency in India, Afghanistan' http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20100726/89 ... ncy_1.html
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Org Chart and reporting chain for ISI from declassified US cable dated 1950:

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakistan/ ... ly1950.htm
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shyamd wrote:^^ Its time for India to seize this opportunity. Swing public opinion decisively. No point in sitting quietly and watching this show unfold.

Lets see how the ELM will play this out tomorrow.

It will easily show you where the pakis have loyalty in the Indian media.
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X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism Thread.

Recognition accorded yet again for the demonstration of the “Jihad fi Sabilillah” or “Jihad in the path of Allah” portion of the motto of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The “cynical collusion” between the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s military intelligence service and the Taliban demonstrated by the documents disclosed by WikiLeaks despite the billions of dollars the US has sent in aid to Pakistan triggers a New York Times editorial deploring Pakistani conduct:

Pakistan’s Double Game
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Der Spiegel with a translated excerpt of the cover story appearing in its magazine on the WikiLeaks disclosure of classified US documents that show the malign role of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in fomenting Islamic Terrorism in Afghanistan:
07/28/2010 03:03 PM

Washington's Hidden Enemy

Logs Suggest Pakistani Intelligence Controls Course of War

By Matthias Gebauer, John Goetz, Hans Hoyng, Susanne Koelbl, Marcel Rosenbach and Gregor Peter Schmitz

Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI, appears frequently in the war logs obtained by WikiLeaks. They suggest that even as Pakistan served as an ally to the United States, it was still secretly helping the Taliban in its insurgency in Afghanistan. The documents also suggest a major role is played by former ISI chief Hamid Gul.

Editor's note: The following article is an excerpt from this week's SPIEGEL cover story. The facts in the story come from a database of almost 92,000 American military reports on the state of the war in Afghanistan that were obtained by the WikiLeaks website. Britain's Guardian newspaper, the New York Timesand SPIEGEL have all vetted the material and reported on the contents in articles that have been researched independently of each other. All three media sources have concluded that the documents are authentic and provide an unvarnished image of the war in Afghanstan -- from the perspective of the soldiers on the ground.

Afghanistan's neighbor, Pakistan, has been in a tight spot since the al-Qaida attacks on New York and Washington. Officially, the country is part of the worldwide anti-terrorism coalition forged by former United States President George W. Bush. Unofficially, however, the Pakistani security forces are the patrons of the Taliban forces that gave refuge to Osama bin Laden and his terrorists. It is clear that the Taliban would not exist without help from abroad. The Pakistani intelligence service, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), helped build up and install the Taliban after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan and the country descended into a fratricidal war among the victorious mujahedeen, creating the threat of a power vacuum.

Despite all assurances by Pakistani politicians that these old connections were severed long ago, the country still pursues an ambiguous policy, in which Pakistan is both an ally of the United States and a helper of its enemies. …………………..
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Excerpt of portion dealing with the fomenting of Islamic Terrorism by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan from NDTV interview of UK Prime Minister David Cameron:
British PM David Cameron speaks to NDTV: Full transcript

Updated: July 29, 2010 14:46 IST ……………………….


Prannoy Roy: As you know India is involved in aid and reconstruction... so when these wikiLeaks came out and showed that American and England are working with the Pakistan army and the ISI knowingly and these are forces which have helped the Taliban, the violence...how can you work with the force that helps violence and helps terrorism?

David Cameron: What we have to do in our relationship with Pakistan is to encourage Pakistan to go after the militants and the terrorists on their side of the border and to be fair to Pakistan they have made progress in arresting members of Al-Qaida and in pushing the terrorist from their side of the border. Do we want them to do more? Of course we do but we are going to solve this problem if we have good relationship with Pakistan as well as the work we are doing in Afghanistan. That is essential.

Prannoy Roy: You have been so forthright in your statements, apologizing to the people of Northern Ireland, your recent statement describing Gaza. Is there some regret that you can say, to people of India? Working with the ISI according to all these documents found, now admitted by US as well, working with ISI which has helped in bombing in Kabul, in the Indian embassy and helped in the Mumbai attacks... some regret?

David Cameron: First of all, I feel the deepest sympathy for the people in India and for the Government for the loss that you have suffered from terrorism. We too in Britain have suffered on the streets of London where terrorism in some cases, emanated from the same part of the world. And that is what I said today... it is unacceptable within Pakistan to support terrorism and terrorist groups elsewhere. We need to work with the Pakistan Government to make sure we close down all of the terrorism that exists from Pakistan... that is very clear and that is what our relationship is about.

Prannoy Roy: So what you are saying is that Pakistan is supporting terrorism and you want them to stop that?

David Cameron: What I have said is that it is unacceptable for anything to happen within Pakistan that is about the promotion of terror elsewhere and to be fair to the Pakistan Government they have taken steps to deal with some of the problems and we have seen great activity by them and we welcome and support that and everyone who wants to see stability should support that. Does more need to happen? Of course it does.

Prannoy Roy: You are worried about the terrorism in the western part of the Pakistan but on the eastern side, where they have got camps, you have the same problem that we have been talking about for years... cross-border terrorism. But you are on the western side so are you also worried about the eastern side cross-border terrorism to India?

David Cameron: Of course, but we want to see a stable and democratic Pakistan, we want to see a stable and secure Afghanistan, we want to see over time a better relationship between India and Pakistan and it is all in our interest that there is better stability security and relationship in this part of the world and good for all of us throughout the world. But we don't see our relationship with India... this special relationship with India that I am talking about....we don't see that through the prism of the problems that come out of it.

Prannoy Roy: So you de-link?

David Cameron: I don't link those two. I see a relationship with India which is about our mutual corporation for our mutual advantage, whether that is business, whether that is trade, the cultural exchanges and relationship between our countries... that is a good thing in itself irrespective of any conversations we might have about a stable and secure Afghanistan.

Prannoy Roy: Now that you have raised economic issues, just to summarize, and if I am wrong please correct me, I am bound to exaggerate what you have said... one is that you would like to see Pakistan to do more within their country and two, Britain will not mediate or interfere in the Kashmir at all?

David Cameron: I have said on both these points very clearly what I want to see happen. Of course we want India and Pakistan to discuss issues between them and it is better for them. Absolutely!

Prannoy Roy: Between them?

David Cameron: In terms of terrorism, nothing happens within Pakistan that supports terrorism. And we will support the Pakistan Government in what they do to stop that and be fair to them. They too have suffered from terrorism themselves but we need to make sure that this work continues.

Prannoy Roy: No regret working with ISI one last time?

David Cameron: I have said what I have to say.

NDTV
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X-posted..

ShyamD wrote in Af-Pak thread:

Some more commentary:

Some leaked documents a breath of fresh air
In all the furor of the leaked documents posted on the leftist anti-war website Wikileaks, there is some information now in the public domain that actually might do some good. Finally, we are able to see documentary evidence that the United States actually knows, or at least believes, that the Pakistanis may not be part of the solution in Afghanistan, but are in reality a major part of the problem, and that the Iranians are supporting the Taliban in their operations against American forces. While many of us have suspected this all along, it is good to see it in real government documents.

Pakistan
America's relationship with Pakistan has had its ups and downs over the years, much of influenced by how much they could do for us in furthering our national interests. That is, after all, what foreign policy is all about. During the Soviet invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, Pakistan's intelligence service, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI) was the conduit for virtually all American weapons and money to the Aghfan mujahidin.

Any one who knows Pakistan or the Pakistanis realizes that not all of the money nor weapons reached their intended recipients. The CIA officers responsible for the operation knew that there was going to be a certain amount of corruption, but that it was the price of doing business - there was no viable alternative to dealing with the ISI. The more important mission was getting weapons to the fighters in Afghanistan.

The weapons provided to the mujahidin included, as glamorized in the movie Charlie Wilson's War (see my comments on Charlie and "his" war), the FIM-92 Stinger shoulder-launched heat-seeking air defense missile system, to this day arguably the finest shoulder-fired system in existence.

As feared by many officers at the Pentagon when Representative Wilson basically forced the U.S. Army to provide Stingers to the ISI for the mujahidin, some of the missiles ended up in the hands of people we did not want to have them. In September 1987, while the CIA was still sending Stingers to the ISI, the U.S. Navy found Stingers on board the Iranian mine-laying ship Iran Ajr in the Persian Gulf. The serial numbers indicated that they had been shipped to the ISI for delivery to the mujahidin. A gift to the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps from our "allies."

After the Soviets were driven out of Afghanistan in 1988, our assistance to the mujahidin stopped almost overnight. The mujahidin were disappointed that we did not continue our support, but our operation in Afghanistan were not about them, it was about the Soviets. Once the Soviets left, our foreign policy objective was achieved and we turned to other matters.

No longer needing the cooperation of the Pakistanis, the U.S. Congress began scrutinizing Pakistan's nascent nuclear weapons and missile programs. In 1990, once it was assessed that Pakistan was in fact developing a nuclear weapon, the United States halted delivery of additional F-16 fighter aircraft (that had already been paid for) under the terms of the Pressler Amendment. Relations between Islamabad and Washington chilled.

In the early 1990's, the ISI was involved in the creation of the fundamentalist Taliban - its charter members were drawn from the millions of Afghan refugees in northern Pakistan. When the Taliban took over in Afghanistan, they were supported by the ISI, and diplomatically recognized by Pakistan. There is more to the relationship between the ISI and Taliban than than Pakistani national interest.

As with many countries in the Middle East and South Asia, ethnic and tribal loyalties trump almost everything else. Many of the ISI are ethnic Pushtuns, as are most of the Taliban. It is the Pushtun tribesmen in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (especially in North and South Waziristan, the semi-autonomous regions along the Afghanistan border) that have extended protection to al-Qa'idah leaders Usmah bin Ladin and Ayman al-Zawahiri, and Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar. There is also a large Pushtun contingent in the Pakistani armed forces.

The thought that the ISI and many in the Pakistani army are going to be fully supportive of the Pakistani government's efforts to move against their fellow tribesman in the Waziristans is wishful thinking. In fact, the exact opposite seems to be the case - the ISI, or at least some officers in the ISI, along with some Pakistani army officers are actively supporting the Taliban in their operations against American and coalition forces.

Regardless of what Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs would have you believe - and the documents tend to make him out as less than truthful - the Pakistanis are not serious about helping us eradicate an organization that they created. To think otherwise defies logic.

Iran
The Iranians likewise are much more involved in supporting the Taliban in its operations against American and coalition forces than the administration would have us believe. The Iranians, as they did with the Iraqi Shi'a militias such as the jaysh al-mahdi (JAM) of Muqtada al-Sadr, have been providing weapons and other support to the Taliban. Although the Taliban and the Iranians have many ideological differences, their mutual hatred of the United States supersedes any reluctance to cooperate with each other.

There are also the much-touted Obama outreach efforts to Iran - all of which have been rebuffed by the Iranians and have been a dismal failure. Could a desire to not offend the Ahmadinejad regime have played into the downplaying of Iran's support for the Taliban? I have my suspicions.

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The above post shows the ethnic links between the ISI Pathans and the Taliban. They are both Ghilzais.
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X Posted with Hat tips to Prem and Raghavendra.

An Ajit Ninanesque cartoon posted on August 1, 2010 and titled “Ricochet” by Jeff Danzinger in Huffington Post on the diversion of US Taxpayer funds by the Pakistan Government and Pakistan Intelligence Service to the Taliban.

From the Huffington Post website:

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Alternate link provided by Raghavendra:

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SSridhar et al..
Maj Gen G.D. Bakshi's book "The Paradox of Pakistan-Collapse or Caliphate" has a dozen pages on ISI. Its more informative than all this thread.

Key conclusion is that it supports 41 terrorist outfits. He doesnt list the names.
It and the MI are the core group that sustain Nazariya-e-Pakistan.
He refers to B. Chengappa's article in IDSA Delhi Papers on ISI org chart etc.
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Ramana, can you give details of the book so that I can buy from or order through my local bookstore here ? TIA.
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SSridhar wrote:Ramana, can you give details of the book so that I can buy from or order through my local bookstore here ? TIA.

The Paradox of Pakistan : Collapse or Caliphate
G.D. Bakshi, Manas, 2010, 228 p

Its very good on the nature of the TSP state and it has a few scenarios for future.
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ramana wrote:SSridhar et al..
Maj Gen G.D. Bakshi's book "The Paradox of Pakistan-Collapse or Caliphate" has a dozen pages on ISI. Its more informative than all this thread.

Key conclusion is that it supports 41 terrorist outfits. He doesnt list the names.
It and the MI are the core group that sustain Nazariya-e-Pakistan.
He refers to B. Chengappa's article in IDSA Delhi Papers on ISI org chart etc.
Reading a book called "Captive: My Time as a Prisoner of the Taliban" by Jere Van Dyk, an old Afghan hand...and tends to romanticize the original mujahideens. Does not cover up on Paki involvement though. Says the MI is even more ruthless than ISI. We know next to nothing on the MI.
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There are many intel outfits in TSP.

ISI is an intel organization of the armed forces. Its a unit by itself.
MI has three separate wings: Military, Air Force and Naval

IB: Is Police type organization headed by Military officers.

The keepers of the N-e-P flame and the Kabila are the ISI and MI.
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Here is an extract from an article that appeared in DAWN in 2006
. The more notable of them are the Intelligence Bureau (IB), Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), and Military Intelligence (MI). IB began as a segment of the intelligence bureau in British India that came to Pakistan’s share upon partition. It focuses on domestic politics, monitors the current government’s adversaries, and watches suspected terrorists and foreign agents. Its operatives may intercept the targeted person’s telephone calls and even inspect his mail. They harass opposition parties when their political superiors ask them to do so. IB worked to promote Ayub Khan’s candidacy and engineered Miss Fatima Jinnah’s defeat in the presidential election of 1964. In conjunction with the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), of which we will say more shortly, it tried to ensure that no political party would win a clear majority in the 1970 election. IB played an even larger role in the election of March 1977. Its officers examined reports coming in from the district officers concerning each aspirant’s financial position, local standing, biradari connections, and reputation and passed their assessments on to Rao Abdul Rashid, a high-ranking police officer, who headed an election cell in the prime minister’s office. Other intelligence agencies also submitted their evaluations. Mr Bhutto made decisions on the award of party “tickets” partly on the basis of these assessments. So spectacular, and therefore incredible, was the result of its and the other agencies’ exertions (155 of the 192 general seats in the National Assembly) that it brought down Mr Bhutto’s government. It may be safe to assume that IB rendered similar assistance, perhaps a bit more discreetly, to the present regime in connection with the 2002 election, and that it is poised to do the same as the election scheduled for 2007 approaches. We are concerned here with the ISI’s domestic operations. It served as Ayub Khan’s eyes, ears, and “muscle” in dealing with his political opponents. It did the same for Yahya Khan. Over the years, it has put together and broken up political parties and coalitions. Following the Islamic revolution in Iran it is believed to have encouraged the formation of the anti-Shia Sipah-i-Sahaba. When the MQM became troublesome in the urban centres of Sindh in the late 1980s, the ISI armed some of the Sindhi nationalist groups to fight the Mohajirs, and it also managed to create a split within the MQM itself.It brought two factions of PML back together and placed them in an alliance with the Islamic parties and some other groups (the combination called IJI) to oppose the PPP in the 1988 election. General Mirza Aslam Beg revealed during a hearing at the Supreme Court (June 16, 1997) that the ISI had received Rs 140 million from a bank, which it disbursed to parties opposing the PPP candidates in the election held in October 1990.In September and October of 1989 the ISI attempted to bring about a split within the PPP: it tried to persuade a number of its MNAs to support a no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto sponsored by the opposition parties. This move failed.The ISI keeps tabs not only on opposition politicians but also on the ruling party and its leading men. It can put pressure upon them, and resist their pressure, by confronting them with the records of their alleged misdeeds and threatening to expose them. Once one of Mr Bhutto’s ministers told me that he had personally checked some of the telephones at the prime minister’s residence and found that they were bugged. Intelligence agencies are said to have bugged the room in which Benazir Bhutto and Rajiv Gandhi (the Indian prime minister) held their private conversations in December 1988 and July 1989.Far more abominable than intervention in political organisations and the electoral process is the ISI’s alleged mishandling of individual citizens. Numerous reports have recently appeared, saying that men belonging to the “agencies” have forced their way into homes and abused the residents, picked up persons, taken them away, held them incommunicado for months, and in some instances tortured and killed them.Allow me to refer here to a particularly scandalous event that took place in the first week of July. An ISI officer reportedly sent a bunch of his operatives to break into the house of an 80-year old retired brigadier, twice recipient of the second highest military award (SJ) for bravery on the field of battle. They insulted him, roughed up his daughter-in-law, seized his two young grandsons (who had apparently had a fight with the ISI officer’s boys at school), and took them away.Attempts to make the ISI accountable to the government’s political head have accomplished nothing other than further alienating the agency from her/him. The prime minister hoped to rein in the ISI by appointing a man of her/his choice as its director, but this move did not produce the desired result. Disregarding the army chief’s advice, Ms Benazir Bhutto appointed a retired major general, Shamsur Rahman Kallu, as the ISI’s head in May 1989 to replace Lt. General Hameed Gul. This did not go well with General Aslam Beg who shunned her appointee.Nawaz Sharif appointed Lt General Javed Nasir to the post without consulting General Asif Nawaz, the army chief at the time. The latter would seem to have accepted this appointment, albeit, reluctantly. During his second term in office, Nawaz Sharif appointed Lt General Ziauddin as the ISI’s director general, overriding General Musharraf’s objections. Ziauddin was not well received at GHQ. His appointment made for friction between Musharraf and Nawaz Sharif which, as we all know, caused the prime minister a lot of grief.The ISI is often referred to as “a state within a state,” an “invisible government,” and a “law unto itself,” for in matters of its own choosing it is accountable to no one, not even to the army chief. Writing in a Lahore newspaper (August 17, 1997), the late Mr Altaf Gauhar once observed that, national security being an inclusive concept, a great many happenings at home as well abroad could be said to have a bearing upon it. The resulting ambiguity opened the door to ISI’s interventions in the country’s domestic politics. Mr Gauhar gave an account of its domestic undertakings during the 1960s, when he served as information secretary in the central government. His narrative need not be repeated here, for we have already covered its salient points above.But surely noteworthy is his finding that the ISI and other intelligence agencies had been so occupied with domestic politics that they had failed to gather adequate information regarding the state of public opinion in Indian occupied Kashmir in the weeks preceding the 1965 war. Mr Gauhar, having watched their performance both during his own tenure as federal secretary and later, would appear to have become greatly disenchanted with them.He concluded his article with the observation that the “involvement of the ISI and MI in domestic politics is seen as the biggest threat to the security and solidarity of Pakistan.” Observations to the same effect have also appeared in newspaper editorials, columns, and other forums from time to time.The ISI and the other intelligence agencies did not know much about the state of affairs in Indian held Kashmir, or the deployment of Indian forces during the war in 1965. It is hard to say to what extent their knowledge of India’s political dynamics, objectives relating to Pakistan, and levels of military preparedness has improved since then. But we do know that their competence in investigating terrorism and sabotage within Pakistan, identifying and apprehending the culprits and their sponsors, remains abysmally low. One may then wonder if they are earning their keep, and if they are worth having, if all they can do “well” is to distort and disrupt our political system, and scare, harass and torment our citizens.
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X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

Rangin Dadfar Spanta, the National Security Advisor of Afghanistan indicts the Islamic Republic of Pakistan for fomenting Islamic Terrorism in Afghanistan in an Op-Ed in the Washington Post.

I expect the Wa Po comment section will shortly be crawling with many much peeved Pakistani’s.

Excerpt:
Pakistan is the Afghan war's real aggressor

By Rangin Dadfar Spanta
Monday, August 23, 2010; A13

After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Afghanistan became a rare example of international consensus. The global community, amid competing regional and international interests, undertook a military intervention endorsed and legitimized by the U.N. Security Council. It was common knowledge that al-Qaeda had created a haven in Afghanistan with the support of Pakistan's intelligence agency. Dismantling this regional terrorist infrastructure was considered vital to the international counterterrorism strategy.

Then-U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage delivered a message to Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, in November 2001: It could join the international coalition or be bombed "back to the stone age." Across the border, the Afghan people persecuted by the brutal rule of the Taliban and al-Qaeda, as well as by the lordship of Pakistani generals, welcomed the international community with open arms. We have made significant progress in recent years. But our achievements in education, health, development and civil rights have been overshadowed and eroded by terrorist attacks.

There is ongoing domestic and international confusion in identifying Afghanistan's friends and foes. The Afghan people are wholeheartedly grateful to the international community for its sacrifices in blood and treasure. Unfortunately, the military-intelligence establishment of one of our neighbors still regards Afghanistan as its sphere of influence. While faced with a growing domestic terrorist threat, Pakistan continues to provide sanctuary and support to the Quetta Shura, the Haqqani network, the Hekmatyar group and al-Qaeda. And while the documents recently disclosed by WikiLeaks contained information that was neither new nor surprising, they did make public further evidence of the close relations among the Taliban, al-Qaeda and Pakistani intelligence.

The international community is present in Afghanistan to dismantle these international terrorist networks. Yet the focus on this fundamental task has progressively eroded and has been compounded by another strategic failure: the mistaken embrace of "strategic partners" who have, in fact, been nurturing terrorism. ……………….

WaPo
PTI’s take on the WaPo article by Spanta:

Pak harbouring terrorists: Afghan national security advisor
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The design behind the ISI's leaked assessment

The analysis is quite accurate, thus posting in full.
The recently published ISI's assessment in the Wall Street Journal leaked by a senior ISI official, which concludes that a "two-thirds likelihood a major threat to the state coming from militants rather than from India or elsewhere," appears to be a well crafted stratagem to ensure continued inflow of US aid without any criticism in the US congress as also to counter charges that the US aid is misused to develop the Pak Army's capabilities against India.


Some of the Pak analysts have commented which give credence to this assessment. Talat Masood, a retired general and an analyst on security matters, stated that the assessment is based on the awareness that some of its previous friends have become its sworn enemies. Another analyst Imtiaz Gul similarly remarked that "many of the militant groups that the Pakistani military worked with in the past have now turned against them". However others like Ayesha Siddiqa suspect it to be a part of a game plan. Siddiqa have remarked that" there are games within games".


Since this assessment reflects the ground realities, it is logical to conclude that the Pak intelligence agency has changed its stance. Some articles in the media have highlighted that for the first time in 63 years, the ISI has determined that a majority of threats come from the Islamist militants rather than India or elsewhere. However, an examination of two related dimensions suggests that there had been no change in the ISI's objectives.


The first dimension relates to the ISI's activities towards India that would provide indicators that in the Pakistani perception its homegrown terrorists have overtaken the Indian Army as the greatest threat to its national security. Statements of politico-military nature by top Pakistani leadership continue to reflect a high degree of antipathy towards India. In fact, the anti-India statements have become shriller. In February 2010, Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani , the Pak Army averred that" the Pak Army remains an India centric institution and this reality would not change in any significant way till the Kashmir issue and the water disputes are resolved." Since Sharm El Sheikh joint statement, Pak leadership has been increasingly harping on the allegation that India was assisting the Baluchi insurgents. The Pak Interior Minister, Rahman Malik went further and blamed India of not only assisting the insurgents in Baluchistan but also for destabilizing FATA as well as for involvement in Lahore terrorist attacks in March 2010.


The views of Kayani are of utmost importance as he in the capacity of head of the Pak Army determines Pakistan's India policy. Kayani appears to be a true disciple of one of his predecessors Mirza Aslam Beg. The latter, who is known to be articulating the policies of the Pak Army, had systematized the use of terrorism as an instrument to deal with India during his tenure. Even in his recent articles he continues to put emphasis that Kashmir remains the unfinished agenda of the partition. More important was his view on Afghanistan. During his tenure as the Army Chief, Beg provided maximum articulation to the concept of strategic depth. This doctrine calls for the need for dispersal of Pakistan's military assets in Afghanistan, well beyond the reach of India's military offensive capabilities. This aspect of the doctrine became clear during the Pak Army exercise called Zarb-e-Momin. Keeping this concept in view, Kayani during his tenure as the ISI chief began to oppose forcefully the Indian presence in Afghanistan. The attacks on the Indians have substantially increased since 2004 and the Pak proxy war has been extended to Afghanistan. The current reports suggest increased use of Taliban and networks of Hekmatyar and Haqqani as also Lashker-e-Toiba against Indians by ISI. In fact there are no indicators to suggest that the Pak Establishment has given up the policy of using terrorism as an instrument against India.


In recent months, assiduous efforts have been made by pak Establishment to pressurize the Karzai government to accept the Taliban and Islamist groups to form the part of the power structure and remove those who oppose this move with the objective of removing Indian influence in Afghanistan. In the last few months, the ISI chief Ahmad Shuja Pasha had been shuttling between Kabul and Islamabad to pressurize Karzai. In the last month, Kayani himself went to Kabul. This followed the sacking of Amrullah Saleh, Karzai's security chief and Hanif Atmer, head of the interior ministry, who were not willing to tow the Pak line of accommodating the Taliban elements.


In addition, the Pak Army continues to acquire weapons which can be used only against India and not against terrorists. In view of the above, it would be unrealistic to assume that Pakistan Army and ISI could have downgraded the threat from India. The Pak Army, which is using the threat from India to remain in a dominant position, is doing its best to keep it in the sharper focus of the Pakistanis. The impact of this policy is that in Pakistani nationalism is equated with anti Indian sentiments.


The second dimension relates to the possibility of a group of officers in ISI holding an independent and contrary view from that of the top ISI and Pak Army leadership. Since the ISI is mainly manned at the top level by the officials drawn from the armed forces, such a possibility appears highly unlikely as they are likely to follow the line of the Pak Army and the ISI. This agency, which is involved in the collection of intelligence, has no separate unit to make an objective strategic assessment. In fact, from the intelligence documents prepared by the ISI that have become available, it is clear that the ISI assessments reflect extreme hard-line views against India.
The moot question is why ISI made such an assessment and then leaked it to the media. From the analysis of the available evidence, the reasons behind this act can be understood clearly. Of late, the US had increased the pressure on the Pakistan to give due attention to the terrorists operating from the Pakistan - Afghanistan region and stop supporting the Taliban and Al Qaeda elements. Soon after the failed attempt to attack the Time square, the US had given a stern warning to Pakistan on the support to terrorists. Prior to the US-Pak Strategic dialogue, several experts cautioned the US Congress on the growing nexus between the ISI and terrorists. Marvin G Weinbaum of the Middle East Institute-a Washington based research organization pointed out that despite ban on the LeT, the outfit was allowed to function with impunity and the ISI continued to consider the terror group as an asset. Liza Curtis of the Heritage foundation that the presence of Hafiz Md Saeed at public rallies, which were attended by Pak ministers as well, suggested continued nexus between ISI and LeT. Another analyst Ashley J Tellis of the Carnegie Endowment pointed out that ISI was providing intelligence to LeT for selected targets.


The US officials too had been pointing out the continued close nexus between the ISI and the terrorists and for over projecting unnecessarily threat from India. The former Director National Intelligence Adm. Blair said that the Pak Establishment and the ISI continue to support the Taliban to maintain its strategic depth against. In May 2010, the US administration asked Pakistan to shun India centric policy. Last month, the US officials more frequently spoke on the continued nexus of Pak intelligence agency with the terrorists. On 22nd July, Richard Holbrooke, the US Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, highlighted the nexus between the ISI and terrorists as the real problem. The next day Michael Mullen, Chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, stated that the overall strategic approach of the ISI needed to be fundamentally changed. Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, during her visit to Pakistan had pointed out that elements in the Pak Establishment knew the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden. More recently, Elizabeth Byrs, UN spokesperson of the UN Office for Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs rightly pointed out that the reason for not being able to arrange sufficient funds for the relief work in Pakistan was its image deficit. The US President had faced problems in getting the clearance for $ 59 bn for war funding after the Wikileaks expose. The Pak linkages with the terrorists were criticized.


The above appears to have brought home the fact to the Pak Establishment that to continue to get aid from US without criticism, it was necessary at least to project that Pakistan was changing its threat perception. Pakistan knows it pretty well that the US would continue to support Pakistan because of its strategic interests, yet a hint of change in the Pak priorities of threats could reduce the criticism in the US Congress. Hence, an intelligence assessment to meet the requirement got prepared and was quickly leaked to the press. To give credence to this assessment, the Pak Ambassador in US Husain Haqqani was made to state that" Islamabad's pro-occupation with India that came in the way of its doing more to show its commitment to fighting terror". Without a directive from the top, the diplomat could not have taken a line that was contrary to the Pak Army chief's stated policy.
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X Posted.
manish wrote:The headlines are becoming pretty harsh - apologies if posted already.
WSJ: Pakistan Urges On Taliban
Members of Pakistan's spy agency are pressing Taliban field commanders to fight the U.S. and its allies in Afghanistan, some U.S. officials and Afghan militants say, a development that undercuts a key element of the Pentagon's strategy for ending the war.

The explosive accusation is the strongest yet in a series of U.S. criticisms of Pakistan, and shows a deteriorating relationship with an essential ally in the Afghan campaign. The U.S. has provided billions of dollars in military and development aid to Pakistan for its support.
Note the title says 'Pakistan' instead of the usual ISI/spy agency, although the body of the article again sticks to 'ISI prodding militants' angle - very subtle but very important shift.

So are they threatening napaks that they will shift to an ISI==Pak Army==PakiNation line wholesale?
arun wrote:^^^ The Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, via the Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI), by keeping up with its institutional motto of “Iman, Taqwa, Jihad Fi Sabilillah” exhorting the Afghan Taliban to indulge in a spot of “Jihad Fi Sabilillah” or translated “Jihad in the path of Allah” targeting US forces in Afghanistan, I see.

Will the ISI operatives indulging in the spot of Jihad Fi Sabilillah conveniently be anointed “Rogue Agents” as was the case for the Mumbai terrorist attack by the US defense and intelligence establishment?

Any way alternate report for the same story from Fox News:

Report: Pakistan Spy Agency Urging Taliban to Fight U.S.
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Fulcrum of Evil : ISI, CIA, Al Qaeda Nexus by Maloy Krishna Dhar is also a good book on the ISI. Gives pretty detailed account of ISI.
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The Islamic Republic of Pakistan's intelligence agency Inter-Services Intelligence ( ISI ) knowingly released the kidnappers of New York Times journalist David Rohde:

After David Rohde's Escape, a Taliban Feud

Aram Roston
November 17, 2010 ……………

An Afghan who is well acquainted with several of the participants in the kidnapping has provided The Nation and the Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute with new details about the perpetrators, as well as new information about what happened after Rohde's escape. This source's account reveals how Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) serves as an arbiter for the various Taliban groups that compete with one another for influence, loot and profits. According to the source, the ISI, acting on behalf of one Taliban faction, took two of Rohde's guards into custody to interrogate them about how he escaped. Then, despite its knowledge of the men's role in the kidnapping, the ISI simply set them free.

Though this new information merely lends more substance to already strong suspicions about the ISI's close relationship with the Taliban, it's still an explosive allegation: rather than cooperating with US authorities, Pakistan's intelligence agency essentially became an accessory after the fact to Rohde's kidnapping. ………………

The Nation
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X Posted.
The following is a first-hand representation of what David Coleman Headley, a Pakistani-American terrorist in a US prison, confessed to the sleuths of India’s National Investigation Agency in June this year. It was obtained by Dinesh Sharma of Zee News from highly placed sources in the agency and is being reproduced in a two-part series on the second anniversary of Mumbai terror attacks. …………………..

The David Headley Confessions: Part-I

The David Headley Confessions: Part-II

The confession of the Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist Daood Gilani aka David Coleman Headley explicitly shows the involvement of organs of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in perpetrating the 26/11 carnage in Mumbai.
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Amrullah Saleh, the former head of Afghanistan's National Directorate of Security (NSD), clearly recognises the malign role of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan via its intelligence agencies in supporting the Islamic Terrorism being perpetrated by the Afghan Taliban in Afghanistan.

His comments before an audience at the Jamestown Foundation:
He questioned those skeptical of the Taliban's strength. "Will they be able to threaten our key and national interest by possessing AK-47s? Remember, when they helped Al Qaeda do 9/11, they had the same weapons." His solution? "DDR" the Taliban. "Demobilize them, disarm them, take their headquarters out of the Pakistani Intelligence basements... Push the Taliban to play according to the script of democracy—and if they win...allow them a chance to govern." He's confident, though, that "they will die in democracy, they will die in a country where law is ruling, not guns, not IEDs, not the spread of fear and intimidation."

Saleh also has a pretty good idea of where to change the narrative of the war: Pakistan. Since 9/11, he says, Pakistan has provided only "retail" and not "wholesale" cooperation. Time after time, the United States has been duped into trusting the country and its intelligence services. Saleh even claimed that Pakistani officials have privately admitted to him that their country has yet to change its ways despite their frequent promises to do so. "Now the United States believes that by giving more money and resources to Pakistan, you can convert their behavior from bad to good…but it is rewarding bad behavior which [continues] that bad behavior."
Read it all in an article by Siddhartha Mahanta in Mother Jones:

Afghanistan's Ex-Spymaster Rips Karzai's Signature Policy
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Death squad sponsored by the notorious intelligence organisation of the armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), suspected in the killing journalist Mohammad Khan Sasoli in Khuzdar, Baluchistan :

I.S.I.'s death squad believed to be involved in Khuzdar reporter killing
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Hat tip to Prem.

The spy agency of the armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the ISI, arranges an angioplasty for fugitive Taliban leader Mullah Omar in Karachi:

Report: Pakistani spy agency rushed Mullah Omar to hospital
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