
AoA! Inshaallah!
What a coincidence...
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Hussain Haqqani in his book Pakistan Between Mosque and Military has observed : “Since the country’s inception, Pakistani leaders have played upon religious sentiment as an instrument of strengthening Pakistani identity and that very soon after independence, Islamic Pakistan was defining itself through the prism of resistance to Hindu India.”
The late President of Pakistan Ayub Khan characterised India as a Hindu state and of Hindus as irreconcilable enemies of Islam and Muslims. He identified India as Pakistan’s eternal enemy, Islam as a national unifier and the United States as the country’s provider of arms and finances.
Stephen Cohen in his book Pakistan Army points out : “For Pakistani officers of succeeding generations, the distrust of India is a fundamental assumption.” “In the South Asia region, the Islamists have been allies in the Pakistan’s military’s efforts to seek strategic depth in Afghanistan and to put pressure on India for negotiations over the future of Kashmir.”
Cohen further says: “A few hardliners even look forward to the day when India might be broken up, adding to the list of independent South Asian Muslim states. A minority of Pakistani officers went further, arguing that since India was unviable, Pakistan only needed to give a push and this artificial Hindu” state would implode. The dominant view in Pakistan army is that Pakistan can continue to harass soft India. With nuclear weapons, missiles and tough army, Islamabad can withstand considerable Indian pressure as was proved in the last deployment of the Indian army in the aftermath of the terrorist attack on Parliament and will usually find international supporters to back it up.
Cohen writes: “This could mean the occasional crisis or a fresh challenge to India with the ever-present possibility of a war or a nuclear incident. Pakistan might also be able to again assert a strategic presence in the West or the North. As for the Islamists, the scenario also assumes that the Establishment will continue to use Islamist forces and outright terrorist as instruments of diplomacy in dealing with its neighbours.”
This is the situation as on today. We cannot dissuade a relatively small neighbour from sponsoring terrorism against our nation, a neighbour which is itself beset with its internal problems of cohesion and is suffering from the phantoms of break-up and which according to Strobe Talbott, former Deputy Secretary of State, USA, “seemed to wear on their sleeve an insecurity about the cohesiveness and viability of their own state, not to mention the durability of its democracy and that after more than half a century Pakistan is still grappling with the questions of identity and survival.”
India, a strong nation, is just helpless. After every—even so severe as the one on our Parliament, killing and maiming of hundreds of Indians in the suburban trains in Mumbai and to top it all the siege of Mumbai—our national leadership irrespective of the political party just issues a strong statement shouting from the rooftops that all options are open but only wish that it does not happen again. The nation can do nothing more than putting up humble submissions to USA to persuade Pakistan to behave.
Our leadership plays politics even with the investigation and detection of terrorist crimes, which is obvious from the editorial of Shekhar Gupta, Chief Editor, The Indian Express, about two years back on the government of the day, when he said: “Has it served itself and India well by communalising the very approach to fight against terrorism? Ask the police forces in Maharashtra, Karnataka, Hyderabad and counter terror veterans in the intelligence agencies and even the army and the answer will stare you in the face. After the attacks they faced in first flush of the Mumbai rail attacks for targeting Muslims and the hurry in which they were forced to call off the searches and interrogation have put the fear of God in the minds of security establishment.”
I must quote from a Pakistan army Brigadier SK Malik’s book Quranic Concept of War, the foreword of which was written by the late Zia-ul-Haq, the then President of Pakistan, that “concept of terror is central to the Islamic conduct of modern war” and that “terror struck into the hearts of the enemy is not only a means, it is the end in itself.”
KARACHI: A slew of gun attacks and sporadic incidents of violence claimed 11 more lives in the provincial metropolis on Sunday.
Sunday’s killings raised the death toll to 29 during the past three to four days on either side.
This just about covers K'rachi, doesn't it?...in Jamshed Quarters.....in the jurisdiction of the Khokhrapar police station.....in Korangi....near the Azimpura graveyard.....in Landhi......in Saudabad....in Bilal Colony.....in Awami Colony......in the Eidgah police limits.
Duspercenti will probably take charge of the situation when he returns from his monthly overseas trip.President Asif Zardari...said the situation of the country demanded that the people belonging to all schools of thought and political parties acted in harmony to preserve peace in the country.
Gerard wrote:Why the Taliban won't take over Pakistan
I guess that means the west does not need to pump in Billions of $$.Bearded guys with fistfuls of AK-47s are not poised to breeze into Islamabad on the back of white Toyota pickups.
On spot Chandragupta. Now I came across this poll on Mumbai Mirror which is another manifestation of same thinking: http://www.mumbaimirror.com/Chandragupta wrote:Someone here raised the point of mumbai elite & students protesting against Indian politicans & not against the real perpetrator - Pakistan. It was funny, to the point of being retarded. They were blaming everyone from the politicians, the police, bureaucracy & what not. There was no solid movement for a military retaliation against Pakistan. It's like someone broke into your house & raped your wife and you're blaming the carpenter for not making doors strong enough & the security guard for failing to spot the rapist.
Meanwhile over in Karachi former Senator and President of The Jaffaria Alliance Pakistan (a Shia organisation), Allama Abbas Kumaili, is reported as having this to say on the extermination of the Shia’s in Dera Ismail KhanMonday, June 08, 2009
Three killed, nine injured in DIK sectarian violence
Two Shia brothers gunned down, one killed as gunman opens fire in market
PESHAWAR: Three people were shot dead and nine wounded in gun and grenade attacks on Sunday in Dera Ismail Khan, police said.
In the first attack, gunmen travelling on a motorcycle opened fire on two Shia Muslim men in the main bazaar of Dera Ismail Khan town before fleeing the scene, local police officer Naimatullah Khan said. …………………………
Daily Times
Monday, June 08, 2009
JAP holds protest demo against Shia killings
…………… Labeling the Taliban involved in the bloodshed of the Shia community as US and Indian agents, he said that the Taliban want to destabilize the country by using sectarian violence. …………..
Daily Times
Monday, June 08, 2009
Hindi channels for kids become dilemma for parents
………… the Hindi version of kid’s TV channels are having a negative impact on their children that includes learning Hindi as well as becoming accustomed to the Hindu mythology. ……………
When contacted, cable operators had a different tale to tell. “We run cartoon channels in Hindi because children find it easier to understand,” ……………..
Inam ur Rehman, a media expert and a teacher of mass communication, did not agree with the arguments of the cable operators. “Hindi as a language is of no use to our children. …………,” said Rehman.. He said that the culture shown in these cartoons creates doubts in the minds of the children and later on, they find it difficult to come to terms with their own traditions. …………
Daily Times
Karachi's June 2009 fatalities looks to be on course to beat the 196 fatalities recorded during April 2009.anupmisra wrote:A normal day in K'rachi
11 killed in Karachi target killings
Duspercenti will probably take charge of the situation when he returns from his monthly overseas trip.Sunday’s killings raised the death toll to 29 during the past three to four days on either side.
MQM, ANP, others sued for 196 killings last month
KARACHI: The constitution of a larger bench of the Sindh High Court (SHC) was prayed here on Monday to hear a case regarding the killings of 196 citizens in Karachi in April this year....................
arun wrote:He said that the culture shown in these cartoons creates doubts in the minds of the children and later on, they find it difficult to come to terms with their own traditions. …………
Daily Times
arun wrote:Besides Shia exterminating Taliban who are Indian Agents, Pakistan also has this insidious threat from India to worry about:
Monday, June 08, 2009
Hindi channels for kids become dilemma for parents
………… the Hindi version of kid’s TV channels are having a negative impact on their children that includes learning Hindi as well as becoming accustomed to the Hindu mythology. ……………
When contacted, cable operators had a different tale to tell. “We run cartoon channels in Hindi because children find it easier to understand,” ……………..
Inam ur Rehman, a media expert and a teacher of mass communication, did not agree with the arguments of the cable operators. “Hindi as a language is of no use to our children. …………,” said Rehman.. He said that the culture shown in these cartoons creates doubts in the minds of the children and later on, they find it difficult to come to terms with their own traditions. …………
Daily Times
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Time for the Great Islamic State of Pakistan to start making their own cartoons pindigeneously to compete. Some titles could include:
Dora the (LET) explorer
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linkIn diplomacy, preservation of self interest comes first and the US knows it the best. So at a critical juncture when a new Indian government has just taken office and ahead of the visit of the US diplomats to the region, the US Embassy issued a sudden travel advisory to its citizens resident and travelling to India that there is a “high threat of terrorism throughout India.”
While it may come across as an advisory based on threat perception, but the real reason seems to be something else. Insiders say that that despite denials by South Block, there has been a pressure from the US on India to restart the dialogue with Pakistan.
Washington believes that the success of Obama administration’s biggest foreign policy gamble in the region, its Af-Pak policy, also weighs heavily on the lowering of tensions between India and Pakistan, and Islamabad insists that New Delhi is being difficult by not talking to Pakistan. However, with the release of Lashkar ideologue Hafiz Saeed, the process has only slowed down. In fact on June 2, when the US interim envoy, Albert Peter Burleigh, called on External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna, the foreign minister told him gently that till Pakistan takes some concrete steps restarting the dialogue is not possible.
Obviously all this makes life a bit complicated for Washington, so a sudden travel advisory emerged from the US mission to put India on a backfoot. As they say, like in war, all means are justified in diplomacy. But it’s a bit naive considering that strategic partners usually don’t score points through travel advisories.
anupmisra wrote:T20 World Cup:
Like many of you, I have been following the pooki team's exploits in the world cup T20. They are now 0 for 3 having lost all their games. I am looking forward to the day when the porkies will blame the Yindoos/Chankians for their losses. Remember the evil brahmin/bania combine kept the pookies from playing in the IPL and thus gaining valuable pre-world cup experience.
Pakistan's President Asif Ali Zardari has said there is a possibility that its nuclear arsenal could fall into the hands of the Taliban if democracy "fails" in his country and the world doesn't help.
"If democracy in this country fails, if the world doesn't help democracy -- then any eventuality is a possibility," he said in an interview to German newspaper Der Spiegel when asked whether he, like his late wife Benazir Bhutto, feared that Pakistan's nuclear weapons could fall into the hands of Islamist extremists.
"But as long as democracy is there, there is no question of that situation arising. All important installations and weaponry are always under extra security," Zardari said.
"Nuclear weapons are not Kalashnikovs - the technology is complicated, so it is not as if one little Taliban could come down and press a button," he said.
"I want to assure the world that the nuclear capability of Pakistan is in safe hands," he said, referring to growing concerns in the West over safety of Pakistan's nuclear weapons.
Just when many Western managers are finally becoming comfortable with the idea of working closely with Indian IT firms, along comes Pakistan.
highly productive labor force that is the envy of more prosperous but less tech savvy nations elsewhere in the region.
Pakistan is an increasingly important part of that global economy.{Begging is an economic activity as well you Yindoos}
With a population of 160 million and a land area almost twice the size of CaliforniaWTF??, Pakistan is a smaller and more unified country than most of its neighbors, which increases that nation's chances of solving its own problems and avoiding the mistakes that have plagued neighboring economies.
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The biggest boost to Pakistan's efforts to break into the global IT marketplace came on September 28, when India's finance ministry announced an income tax of more than 36 percent on foreign firms with software, R&D and customer service operations in India
No other economy can match Pakistan's labor pool of educated English-speaking workers. No other economy can match Pakistan's scalability, reliability and low-cost environment.
The willingness of Pakistanis to return home from the West stands in marked contrast to most IndiansThe guy is desperate for to show his pakiness who arrive for school or work in the West and never look back.
However, the relatively open and trusting nature of Pakistanis has made them easy prey for Indian business brokers who have managed to cheat several Pakistani IT firms by offering to provide them with outsourcing contracts in exchange for up-front fees. The Pakistanis assumed that these Indians were open minded and charitable for coming to help less experienced firms in Pakistan gain access to international contracts, until the Indians took their money and disappeared![]()
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Pakistan's official language is English. where many families speak English at home and where accent neutralization for non-native speakers of English is substantially easier than in India.
Safety and Security
Once you have lived through a few riots in India, once you have taught yourself how to quickly turn the lights out and lay down on the floor because you are afraid of what might come through the window, then Pakistan doesn't seem so scary anymore.
Pakistan welcomes immigrants and serves as a place of safety and security.
From Iran, Afghanistan, India and elsewhere they come, seeking the same things that immigrants to the U.S. have always sought: opportunity, liberty, freedom of religion and respect for personal beliefs.And also to learn to spread lies all the time
Phew!! My stomach is aching now...Pakistan is currently looking into a 5-10 Billion FDIAid?? in the IT sector for the next 8 years in which these number could easily doubleyes yes, unkil is very pleased these days, these do not include the Billions that will flow in from the goverment and buisness investmentsArabs??. Pakistan is also expecting to get a FDI of 3-5 Billion in the Telecommunication sector.Mullah Radio?? All these major boosts will easily make Pakistan a world hot spot capable of passing the Philipines and tacklings India's IT tiger with large forceDo they always want to tackle?? They tried, and had bitten the dust in IT as well. What a loser race.
Ai ai ai... I wonder what this guy's audience is. Any gullible westerners are in for a "surbrise!"Pakistan's official language is English. where many families speak English at home and where accent neutralization for non-native speakers of English is substantially easier than in India.
It's a 2006 article. Pookiland sure is a "hot spot". Come one, come all. BTW, here's another gem from that article:archan wrote:Ai ai ai... I wonder what this guy's audience is. Any gullible westerners are in for a "surbrise!"
Only Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) and the Punjabi areas of India can come close to competing with accents in Pakistan
I and my military might offer them to our Taliban brethren,who are the other side of the same coin called Pakistanis!Philip wrote:Zardari."NUkes can fall into Takiban hands...".Meaning,if you don't give me more money to stash away abroad,both I and my military might offer them to our Taliban brethren,who are the other side of the same coin called Pakistanis!
Pakistani tribesmen avenging a mosque attack surrounded two militant strongholds and destroyed the homes of some Taliban commanders, an official said Monday as the death toll in the fighting hit 13.
As many as 1,600 tribesmen have joined a citizens' militia in Upper Dir district — an indication of rising anti-Taliban sentiment in Pakistan as the military pursues its offensive against the militant group in the nearby Swat Valley.
While true, this has really nothing to do with the Pakistani Army effort to toss the Pakistani Taliban out.p_saggu wrote:Meanwhile
Pakistani tribesmen Rise against the TalibanPakistani tribesmen avenging a mosque attack surrounded two militant strongholds and destroyed the homes of some Taliban commanders, an official said Monday as the death toll in the fighting hit 13.
As many as 1,600 tribesmen have joined a citizens' militia in Upper Dir district — an indication of rising anti-Taliban sentiment in Pakistan as the military pursues its offensive against the militant group in the nearby Swat Valley.
The Afghans have a right to ask, if the Pakistanis think that Afghan Taliban is good enough for Afghanistan, then what do the Pakistanis have against a Pakistani Taliban for Pakistan. "What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander." So let's all make gander sauce!NRao wrote:There is one huge problem with "Taliban".
There are at least two "Taliban"s: The first the Afghanistan Taliban and the other Pakistani Taliban. (Please recall that Ahmed Rashid had also threatened an Indian Taliban IF India did not cooperate with Pakistan to quell terrorism.)
What the Pakistani Army is "fighting" is the Pakistani Taliban.
The Afghani Taliban is the creation of the Pakistani Army + ISI and is being protected - as they protected the AQ head with blood transfusion, etc.
er - Are you talking about Pakistan? I think you have misspelt the highlighted word.RajeshA wrote: "What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."
NRao wrote:Zardari seems to have a binary mind. He equates democracy to safe nuclear assets. And a failed or a non-democratic state to an unsafe nuclear assets.