Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP), Jan. 29, 2010

KaranR · Post by **KaranR** » 01 Feb 2010 14:55

Gagan wrote:Jaahil Online: Pakistan lost because of green soles on shoes. Watch 3:35 onwards.

YYY vitriol with a religious twist. Mods please see this and delete if necessary.

Grass is also green. Treading on it is also insult to Allah.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Feb 2010 14:56

Hari Seldon wrote:Chances are that Naqvi joker isn't even Dilli based. Could be based outta izloo or Pindi and could say 'Dilli'.

This joker indeed pollutes the environs of Dilli.

Virulently anti Indian and of cancerous disposition.

Seems to have been trained well to formulate and present such "insightful" POVs.

Take a gander at this.

Jawed Naqvi, New Delhi is a former Chief Reporter of Gulf News and News Editor of Khaleej Times, and a veteran journalist who has also worked for many years with Reuters in Delhi. He has covered wars from frontlines in Iran, Iraq, Western Sahara, Lebanon, Yemen, Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Jaffna. After the nuclear tests of 1998, he embarked on a mission of cross-border journalism, campaigning against nuclear madness and human rights abuses. He writes as a freelance journalist for the Karachi Dawn and the Dhaka New Age. Occasionally writes for Tehelka and appears as an analyst for TV channels, Occasional analyst for TV channels .

Uses the Indian constitution to his nefarious benefit, like his political masters across.

I doubt if he would be tolerated elsewhere.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 01 Feb 2010 15:00

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... tory-hh-05

Typical of the former viewpoint is a report that was published 10 years ago by the US National Intelligence Council. Dealing with the year 2015, it laid out a grim prognosis. That description for a future that is now just five years ahead was prescient in many respects:

“Pakistan will not recover easily from decades of political and economic mismanagement, divisive policies, lawlessness, corruption and ethnic friction. Nascent democratic reforms will produce little change in the face of opposition from an entrenched political elite and radical Islamic parties. Further domestic decline would benefit Islamic political activists, who may significantly increase their role in national politics and alter the makeup and cohesion of the military — once Pakistan’s most capable institution. In a climate of continuing domestic turmoil, the central government’s control probably will be reduced to the Punjabi heartland and the economic hub of Karachi.”

An even more dystopian scenario has been put forward recently by Ninand Seth, an Indian. By the year 2020, Seth says that Pakistan would have devolved into an Islamic Commonwealth. This would be a federation of Pakhtunistan (formed by the merger of the Frontier Province with Afghanistan), Balochistan, Sindh and Punjab. Life in the commonwealth would be characterised by the intrusion of religion in every aspect of life, political regimentation and austerity.

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Internationally, Pakistan’s leaders would show boldness and creativity and arrive at a sustainable accommodation with India on Kashmir. This may well build from the formula that Musharraf had devised and which was being explored through serious backdoor diplomacy when the Mumbai terror attacks derailed it. The final solution may be as simple as both countries accepting the Line of Control as the international border and allowing Kashmiris on both sides to move freely across the line.

Once a stable accommodation has been reached with India, the jihadi machinery that had been set up to liberate Kashmir would be shut down.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 01 Feb 2010 15:03

Lilo wrote:Afridi cant choose between smelling balls or biting them
"No I was just trying to smell it, how it is feeling" - Shahid Afridi's initial response when asked by ABC whether he was trying to bite the ball

Link

Lilo-ji

You missed the interesting part of the exchange http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 806107.htm

"No, I was trying to smell it and see how it was feeling," he said.

When Walsh suggested teeth are not used for smelling, Afridi responded: "Sometimes you can do".

He then asked Walsh to stop asking negative questions. {He then went on to add that demanding punishment against his ball biting was strengthening the hands of ball tamperers, and the only way to stop ball tampering is for dialog and discussions. He pointed out that Pakistan is itself a victim of ball tampering.}

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 01 Feb 2010 16:32

Nice find anujan ji
Now that afridi has pleaded guilty in tampering the ball,
i cant help but remember the shallow claims of H&D by pakis led by inzamam in the forfeited oval test.
Even the IPL drama was based on the claims of affront to their (nonexistent) H&D by these buffoons.

what a buch of loosers

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Feb 2010 17:22

Lilo wrote:Afridi cant choose between smelling balls or biting them
"No I was just trying to smell it, how it is feeling" - Shahid Afridi's initial response when asked by ABC whether he was trying to bite the ball
Link

Well snakes do smell with their tongues..

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 01 Feb 2010 17:35

Malayappan wrote:Prem posted this in page 2 of this thread. For anyone who merely skimmed through, I recommend reading the whole piece. It is actually brilliant, a brave Pushtun voice articulating many things we have been saying here. An extremely useful pakistan based source!
Prem wrote:Dangerous abyss of perceptions —Farhat Taj
Must read!

From the above

The conference noted with great concern that it continues to be propagated in the media, though in an implied manner, that terrorism is the continuation of jihad against the Soviet Union. The fact is that almost all of those who were fighting against the Soviets have become an active part of the political canvas of Afghanistan in order to bring stability to the democratic process in that country. They are the foremost opponents of terrorism. They include Professor Mujaddidi, Burhan-ud-Din Rabbani, Pir Gilani, Abdul Rasool Siaf, Abdul Rasheed Dostam and the party of late Ahmed Shah Masood. Only two people of the anti-Soviet campaigns are now involved in terrorism, i.e. Gulbadin Hikmatyar and Jalal-ud-Din Haqqani. Gulbadin’s party is almost non-existent. Only one of his commanders, Kashmir Khan, and a few friends are supporting him. Haqqani had already joined the Taliban and is based in North Waziristan, where he commands an entire terror secretariat.

Moreover, none of the Pakistani terrorist organisations like Hizbul Mujahideen, Harkatul Mujahideen, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, Jaish-e-Muhamamd, Sipah-e-Sahaba, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Lashkar-e-Islam, Ansar-ul-Islam, Amar-bil-Maroof, Tahreek-e-Nifaz-e-Shariat-e-Muhammadi and Tahreek-e-Taliban had participated in the anti-Soviet campaign. Despite this, it was propagated over the media that these terrorists were part of the anti-Soviet campaign and they have been living in the tribal areas for thirty years where they had married the local women and thus became part and parcel of the tribal society. The fact is that in the tribal areas, a foreigner is never called a native even if he had taken asylum and lived there for centuries. The Mehsud tribe of South Waziristan did not allow even a single non-local to stay in their area during this whole period.

many many threads ago, there was a discussion here on the type of topi worn by certain pakjab based terrorists. somebody here observed that this particular guy(hafeez saeed?) was wearing a topi/pagdi that was one of the trademark afghani styles, and that the pakjabi terrorist leader was trying to play psyops here by faking battle-scars of a mujahids of the anti-soviet campaign.

The issue of drone attacks is the most important one. If the people of the war-affected areas are satisfied with any counter-militancy strategy, it is the drone attacks. According to the people of Waziristan, drones have never killed any civilian. Some people in Waziristan even compare the drones with ababils (the holy swallows sent by God to avenge Abraha, the invader of the Khana Kaaba). A component of the Pakistani media, some retired generals, a few journalists/analysts and pro-Taliban political parties never stop their baseless propaganda against drone attacks.

please read this article. she is reporting the outcome of a conference. despite the impression that paki media tries to peddle, that they are some backward, obscurantist people. this article points out that they are a rational bunch of people, who see reality much more clearly than the pakis do.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 01 Feb 2010 18:41

Clueless Paki Youth

Unanswered questions

Herald magazine’s survey on Pakistani youth

the identity crisis plaguing the youngsters of this country today. Pakistan’s turbulent history has widened, rather than resolved, the contradictions present in our society, leaving society as polarised as ever. The young generation is still searching for the answers that previous generations of Pakistanis have failed to provide.

This prevalent identity crisis is spurred at an early school-going age.

Text books are written to pursue ....ideologies that promote hate and intolerance. History is twisted and turned to suit petty interests. Few individuals are revered, others are demonised. Accounts of events from history are printed with knowing distortions and glaring omissions. ...Grades one to 12, most text books “[encourage] or [justify] discrimination against women, religious and ethnic minorities and other nations.”

War is glorified in the process,... that is often branded and disguised as an expression of bravery and courage in our books.

One may argue that this kind of text book perversion is a standard practice in order to promote nationalism and patriotism.

Moreover, many young people feel that reaffirming their national identity comes at the cost of losing their provincial identity.

While groping for solutions in this dark period, the youth are exploited by certain individuals who with their oratory skills present a simplistic answer to complicated dilemmas by urging them to focus on a common external enemy. They spit venom, blabber about conspiracy theories, and preach jingoism in the media.

our flawed policies of looking at everything through a security prism. So manipulative minds use a bit of warmongering to unite the nation. Of course, in the process, our own inefficacies can be brushed under the carpet as well.

“we are a nation of 170 million, confused about our ideology, our very basis, our culture and sociology, our religion, our priorities and our enemies.”

It is easier for most Pakistanis to condemn atrocities committed by a Jewish state thousands of miles away, than to raise a voice against extremism which may have claimed more lives in our own backyard.

Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 01 Feb 2010 19:28

Nayak wrote:National software competition ends

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=221839

The spread programming competition went to Ziaur Rehman and Muhammad Noman of UET Peshawar while Nasir Khan, Kenza Aman, Hira Aftab and Shahida Hayat won the poster design competition. At the end the chief guest gave away prizes to the winner teams.

Poster design competition by engineers at NATIONAL Software competition.

I thought they would put their excellent skills and better accent to some exportable use.

And what is spread programming?(Is it a new concept?? I am a CSE student, and never heard of it. Even Google hasn't.)

archan · Post by **archan** » 01 Feb 2010 19:46

Akshut wrote: And what is spread programming?(Is it a new concept?? I am a CSE student, and never heard of it. Even Google hasn't.)

Perhaps, to teach the young ones how to effectively spread it when 'khan comes calling from time to time.
"Effective, timesaving and face-saving techniques for spreading"

Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 01 Feb 2010 19:53

Thanks for clarifying my doubt Archan-ji. The more the spreading the more the baksheesh, it must be. I just wonder what the prize must be for Abduls who topped the National level spreading competition...

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Feb 2010 21:17

Akshut wrote:Thanks for clarifying my doubt Archan-ji. The more the spreading the more the baksheesh,

The more the spreading the more the backshoves probably

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Feb 2010 21:21

Back channel diplomacy onlee.

BTW isn't there something called swarm computing? The pakistanis are introducing a new term - spread tech, no doubt acquired from the hussies at al-vegas

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 01 Feb 2010 21:22

Pakistan does not want to control Afghanistan: Kayani

“We want Afghanistan to be our strategic depth, it does not imply controlling Afghanistan,” he said.

“The way we understand it, if Afghanistan is peaceful, stable and friendly, we will have our strategic depth because our western border is secure... no one has been able to control Afghanistan in that sense in its history.”

“We can't wish for anything for Afghanistan that we don't wish for ourselves,” he said, adding that Pakistan does not want a “Talibanised” Afghanistan, albeit without elaborating further.

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 01 Feb 2010 21:26

pgbhat wrote:Pakistan does not want to control Afghanistan: Kayani
“We want Afghanistan to be our strategic depth, it does not imply controlling Afghanistan,” he said.
“The way we understand it, if Afghanistan is peaceful, stable and friendly, we will have our strategic depth because our western border is secure... no one has been able to control Afghanistan in that sense in its history.”
“We can't wish for anything for Afghanistan that we don't wish for ourselves,” he said, adding that Pakistan does not want a “Talibanised” Afghanistan, albeit without elaborating further.

Kiyani sahab trying to make "statesman-like" statements ... looks like he is readying himself for the job of President of pakistan ...

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 01 Feb 2010 21:31

That is halfway down hill skiing for now. Temorary taquiya for prospective future gains onlee.

This statement won't stop the ISI from continuing its dirty works department.

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 01 Feb 2010 21:36

archan wrote:
Akshut wrote: And what is spread programming?(Is it a new concept?? I am a CSE student, and never heard of it. Even Google hasn't.)
Perhaps, to teach the young ones how to effectively spread it when 'khan comes calling from time to time.
"Effective, timesaving and face-saving techniques for spreading"

I am amazed that even senior Adminullahs are ignorant about spread programming first deviced in TSP almost 25 years ago. Let me try to enlighten you. From Wiki Link : Brain (computer virus)

©Brain (the industry standard name being Brain) is (in its first incarnation written in January 1986) considered to be the first computer virus for MS-DOS. It infects the boot sector of storage media formatted with the DOS File Allocation Table (FAT) file system. The virus is also known as Lahore, Pakistani, Pakistani Brain, Brain-A and UIUC. Businessweek magazine at the time called the virus the Pakistani flu.
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©Brain was written by two brothers, Basit and Amjad Farooq Alvi, who lived in Charminar, Lahore, Pakistan.
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When the brothers began to receive a large number of phone calls from people in United States, United Kingdom, and elsewhere, demanding them to disinfect their machines, the brothers were stunned and tried to explain to the outraged callers that their motivation had not been malicious. They ended up having to get their phone lines cut off and regretted that they had revealed their contact info in the first place. The brothers are still in business in Pakistan as Internet service providers with a company called Brain Limited where the program may still be in use to track copies of Apple //e heart monitoring software.
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Akshut · Post by **Akshut** » 01 Feb 2010 21:56

^^ I am sorry, I didn't get your point. How's brain = spread?

Do you mean spreading virus = spread computing. Sorry about being OT, Mods.

sum · Post by **sum** » 01 Feb 2010 22:03

The Pakis, via the "Bitegate" scandal and typical Paki behaviour after the incident ( was smelling the ball, everyone cheats etc), have ensured that whatever little goodwill they had generated in the Indian media using the IPL saga is wiped off for good.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Feb 2010 22:23

His “frustrated” jehadi country could make the same lament as well!!

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/i-was-frustr ... ml?from=tn

Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 23:09

BANNED FOR BALL TAMPERING

Karachi: Pakistani all-rounder Shahid Afridi says he tried to tamper with the ball during a match against Australia on Sunday because he was “frustrated” with his team’s performance.

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“I was frustrated because the Pakistan team hasn’t won any match for quite some time,” said Afridi.

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 01 Feb 2010 22:24

Akshut wrote:^^ I am sorry, I didn't get your point. How's brain = spread?

Do you mean spreading virus = spread computing. Sorry about being OT, Mods.

OT Alert:
Array bhai I was being sarcastic. The article you posted from had a typo. It was a Speed Programming contest and not Spread programming. Since the potency of a virus code is measured by its ability to spread quickly I pointed to the glorious history of TSP when it comes to writing software virus code.

url : Info on the contest : http://www.giki.edu.pk/acm/sp.html will give you more details

url2 : Form for the Speed Programming (Fees : Rs 1000) : http://www.giki.edu.pk/acm/Docs/spc101.pdf

Now back to topic.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 01 Feb 2010 23:23

pgbhat wrote:Pakistan does not want to control Afghanistan: Kayani
“We want Afghanistan to be our strategic depth, it does not imply controlling Afghanistan,” he said.
“The way we understand it, if Afghanistan is peaceful, stable and friendly, we will have our strategic depth because our western border is secure... no one has been able to control Afghanistan in that sense in its history.”
“We can't wish for anything for Afghanistan that we don't wish for ourselves,” he said, adding that Pakistan does not want a “Talibanised” Afghanistan, albeit without elaborating further.

words are cheap. cheaper is the ability to turn phrases. where is the list of 10 things Pakistan is going to do to realize this objective?

notice two things. absent in the list "peaceful, stable and friendly" is independent. pakistan does not aim to strive for strategic depth(as newly redefined) by winning over the friendship of an independent neighbouring state. no hardwork, just short cut, just gimme a pliable state. more tactical brilliance from TSP by redressing the old strategy. plus more fear mongering "no one has been able to control Afghanistan". well, so why are you trying it? A'stan shares borders with Iran (forget T,U,T stans and China for the moment) which has had greater historical connection with A'stan and is yet not having to make such statements.

must hand it to these guys they know how to milk a system. nobody will rap these guys on their knuckles for all the mischief they do.

ps: remember last week or so, the talibs published a new how-to book? it was mentioned that they are working on a softer approach designed to get better PR? was that part of all this tamasha?? like AQ 3.14 ??

KaranR · Post by **KaranR** » 01 Feb 2010 23:42

Afridi cant choose between smelling balls or biting them
"No I was just trying to smell it, how it is feeling" - Shahid Afridi's initial response when asked by ABC whether he was trying to bite the ball

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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Feb 2010 23:50

Hari Seldon wrote:Chances are that Naqvi joker isn't even Dilli based. Could be based outta izloo or Pindi and could say 'Dilli'.

Does not matter which place his Musharraf rest, his essential thoughts and ideas are 400% compatibilty with Pakinsaneat. He can be regarded as perfect candidate for new breed called Indian-Pakistani i.e Indian follower of Nazarye Pakistan.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Feb 2010 00:01

Prem wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Chances are that Naqvi joker isn't even Dilli based. Could be based outta izloo or Pindi and could say 'Dilli'.
Does not matter which place his Musharraf rest, his essential thoughts and ideas are 400% compatibilty with Pakinsaneat. He can be regarded as perfect candidate for new breed called Indian-Pakistani i.e Indian follower of Nazarye Pakistan.

The only time I saw this bearded baboon on Indian TV, he came across as a jehadi buffoon.

Kept on belaboring the nazarye pakistan POV.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 02 Feb 2010 01:46

Absence of dialogue is hurting India - Siddharth Varadarajan

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 Feb 2010 01:47

Obama seeks boost in Pakistan aid

U.S. President Barack Obama on Monday proposed a half-billion-dollar increase in funding next year to help train and equip Pakistani security forces to fight Islamist militants and also asked for a big hike in economic aid for Islamabad.

Obama requested $1.2 billion for the Pakistan Counterinsurgency Capability Fund for fiscal 2011, a jump from $700 million budgeted the previous year for the fund to help Pakistan defeat extremists within its own borders. The president also requested $1.322 billion for Pakistan from what is known as the Economic Support Fund (ESF)..Last year, Obama signed legislation pledging to provide $7.5 billion in non-military aid to Pakistan over five years....Economic support funds are provided on a grant basis and are available for many economic purposes, like infrastructure and development projects. The House aide did not know what how the new funds would be spent in Pakistan....The administration also asked Congress to approve $296 million for Pakistan from a program called Foreign Military Financing

This is over and above the coalition support fund, and the 7.5 Billion through Kerry Lugar bill

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 02 Feb 2010 02:47

more carrots and more of the decent approach - which is a path of least resistance, in which nobody has the stamina or the gumption to do the ugly thing and demand accountability and responsibility from the pakis and instead involves listening to TSP's schizophrenic woes, nodding to those woes, and rewarding them to clean up the bubu which they created in the first place.

beautiful.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 02 Feb 2010 02:51

putnanja wrote:Absence of dialogue is hurting India - Siddharth Varadarajan

I don't know if I should laugh or cry or throw up after reading this!
This guy offers brand building advise, strategic advise, marketing , peace building ..you name it!

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 Feb 2010 03:02

Neela wrote:
putnanja wrote:Absence of dialogue is hurting India - Siddharth Varadarajan
I don't know if I should laugh or cry or throw up after reading this!
This guy offers brand building advise, strategic advise, marketing , peace building ..you name it!

Mark the logic of "do what the Beloved Leader wants" that he concludes with.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 02 Feb 2010 03:05

Siddharth Varadarajan wrote:Instead of people-to-people relations influencing official relations in a positive way, the freeze in official ties has inevitably begun to cast a chill on all forms of interaction. Businessmen, who should be looking to exploit opportunities for mutual gain, have become infected with the same hard-line pathology that our security establishment suffers from. Last year, the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry Task Force on National Security and Terrorism came up with a report so strident and hawkish that it provoked an unhelpful backlash from traders in Pakistan. Among the “hard options” the FICCI task force said India could take against Pakistan in the event of another major terrorist attack were “surgical” strikes, covert retaliation inside Pakistani territory, the blocking of imports, all-out assault and “leveraging the water issue” to pressure Pakistan. [/b]

This dude bats for Bakis. Bakis can come and attack us..... should a few people recommend India to retaliate then they are labeled hawkish.

Those f-ckers across the border, what are they? angels?

Ananya · Post by **Ananya** » 02 Feb 2010 03:20

putnanja wrote:Absence of dialogue is hurting India - Siddharth Varadarajan

this is apprisal time and any body who has to be on the good books of the communist Ram gets rewarded hence all this tamasha

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 02 Feb 2010 03:23

Another step by the Pakjabi duo of Kayani-Gilani to accumalate all powers and sideline Zardari.

From "The News" New law takes away president’s nuclear button

Monday, February 01, 2010 - By Tariq Butt
ISLAMABAD: The Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC) has been assigned a significant role in the National Command Authority (NCA) while the president of Pakistan, despite being the supreme commander of the armed forces under the Constitution, figures nowhere in an extremely essential law passed by the National Assembly last week.

The CJCSC may be delegated all powers and functions resting with the NCA by its chairman, the prime minister in this case, certain amendments in the ordinance promulgated by Pervez Musharraf on Dec 13, 2007, which has now passed, said.

The 10-page bill does not contain the words of the president of Pakistan even once whereas the prime minister is the focal point of all powers. For various reasons, including the pressure exerted by the PML-N on the government in closed-door meetings, President Asif Zardari was pushed away from the seat of NCA’s chairmanship.
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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Feb 2010 03:32

Now about foreign affairs: as far as India is concerned, we have fought a couple of serious wars with India and have lost them badly. Clearly we in Pakistan cannot, under any acceptable scenario, either conquer Kashmir or wave the Pakistani flag on the Red Fort in Delhi. If once we accept these facts, then we can perhaps divert some of our limited national resources away from our army towards national development. I believe that our nuclear deterrent will keep us safe from any external aggression. As far as our relationship with the US is concerned, it is primarily about Afghanistan. We had a good innings in Afghanistan but now we are not unlike the Pakistan cricket team and its recent performance in Australia: spirited, but losing all the time. We have had considerable success fighting against the terrorists within Pakistan, and that is what our army should become the defender of our national integrity within our borders.We are a nation of functionally illiterate people who are entirely beholden to archaic values. Our greatest challenge is education. Our schools, colleges and universities, with a few exceptions, are the worst in the world. We do not teach inquiry and rational thought but only pass on received wisdom, if it can be called wisdom anymore. ( You Kuffar, forgot to take pride in universally accepted Madirassas, teaching Jeehad)

Words we may never hear —Dr Shayed Main soor Hu sain
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_3

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Feb 2010 03:44

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... reat-power
( a Paki exercising his entitlement to give advise to India while his country on begging spreee since birth)

Many many Hindu Indians are angry - very very angry. This happened after this writer’s article Is India a Great Power? appeared in The Nation of January 26, when they unleashed a barrage of offensive emails and inconsistent political counter-attacks devoid of logical arguments or reason. And yet, the overall effect of this hostile reaction has provided the opportunity to once again make the point that has been completely lost on Indian observers, foreign policy makers, political gurus, neo-con pundits and some readers of the said article - pure anger has replaced reasonable understanding!
Let us go back to some fundamental ground realities: Yes, India is a massively large country. Yes, it is an enormous economy. Yes, India’s foreign exchange reserves are tremendous. Yes, India has a high profile in the eyes of the US and the Western world in the present geopolitical environment.And the list goes on of Western capitalism’s unholy encroachments on the moral-social-spiritual fibre of the Indian society. Isn’t this entire phenomenon of “India First Now” a part of the manipulative US-West’s political strategy? When seductive pleasure is over, India will certainly get a wake-up call to the harsh realities of its sad existence. For India, the cruel truth is that it has a poverty-stricken disfranchised population
After all, India has the potentials: Wasn’t India the champion of the “Non-Aligned Movement”?
Perhaps, these angry Indians never carefully listened to Mahatma Gandhi! They certainly didn’t! It was Mahatma who once said: “Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding.”
The writer is an academic, political analyst and conflict-resolution expert and Typical Paki .
Email: [email protected]

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 02 Feb 2010 03:59

The next 4 Posts are related to a single incident. The Punjab chief secretary Javed Mahmood fled from the scene of accident when his car crushed to death Col (Retd) Muhammad Ikram riding his motorbike under its wheels.

from The News : Taseer writes to PM against chief secretary

Monday, February 01, 2010 - By Rauf Klasra
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The major charge against the CS Mahmood is that he is directly involved in a case of “criminal negligence” after he reportedly ran away from the scene of an accident in Lahore in which a retired Army colonel was crushed to death under his official car while he was present in the car.

Governor Taseer has also given details of the alleged financial irregularities of Javed Mahmood to establish his case against the “civil servant who is supposed to represent the Federation in a province, is involved in massive financial and administrative irregularities”. One top source said that the letter might renew a tug of war between the offices of Governor Punjab Salmaan Taseer and Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif. Top-level sources said that Salmaan Taseer decided to write to the prime minister after meeting the family members of the retired colonel.
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Sources said that in his letter, Salmaan Taseer has stated that since Javed Mahmood took over as the CS Punjab, he had been misusing his official capacity to develop his own lands in his home district. Using the entire machinery of Punjab government, he turned his ordinary property into an expensive one. Likewise, the governor has pointed out that he got financial subsidy on agriculture tractors in the name of his wife and son.

The main thrust of the letter, however, is the shock he felt to learn that CS Javed Mahmood had fled from the scene of accident when his car crushed a retired Army colonel under its wheels. Taseer regretted that he did not expect such heartless and unbecoming attitude from a senior official of his stature i.e. to leave a man hit by his car bleeding and dying on the road.

...The grief of the family has deepened as hardly a few months back, a son of this Army officer had laid down his life for his country. The letter said that the retired colonel had fought for Pakistan and even remained in Indian prisons as a prisoner of war. ...

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 02 Feb 2010 03:59

Next epsiode is a show of sympathy for the victim by the Sharif's. Sharifs visit Col Ikram’s residence

Monday, February 01, 2010 - By Our Correspondent
LAHORE

PML-N Quaid Mian Nawaz Sharif and Punjab Chief Minister Mian Shahbaz Sharif on Sunday visited the residence of late Col (Retd) Muhammad Ikram and condoled with his family over his death.
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Nawaz said that all requirements regarding the case would be fulfilled as per law. Col (Retd) Ikram, a war veteran, had lost his life in a road accident after his motorbike was hit by the vehicle of Punjab chief secretary

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 02 Feb 2010 04:00

Sharif brothers hit back at Salman Taseer. Taseer hindering justice, says Khosa

Monday, February 01, 2010 - By Our Correspondent
LAHORE

SENIOR Adviser to Punjab Chief Minister Sardar Zulfiqar Ali Khan Khosa has said the provincial government has informed Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani about Punjab Governor Salman Taseer’s unconstitutional actions and his ‘undue’ interference in provincial government affairs.

Speaking at a press conference on Sunday, Khosa said he was surprised that Salman Taseer who took oath as a minister in the cabinet of a dictator in 2007 was now talking of laws of jungle. Khosa said the governor had always engaged in undue interference in day to day affairs of the provincial government, judicial matters and police investigation and threatening civil servants.

He said the governor who claimed that there was no justice in the province should keep in mind that he was himself the biggest hurdle in delivery of justice. He said the governor’s insinuation that law of jungle prevailed in Punjab was baseless as he himself had been blocking appointment of judges to the Lahore High Court and illegally deferred the list of nominees sent by the chief justice of the Lahore High Court. Khosa said the governor was also responsible for detention of 60 supreme court and high court judges and their families at their residences. Similarly, the treatment meted out to the chief justice of Pakistan by Salman Taseer and federal ministers was an open secret, he added.
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BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 02 Feb 2010 04:00

Alls well that ends well. Closure to this case when the guilty is sent on leave. Punjab CS proceeds on leave

Monday, February 01, 2010 - By Ziaullah Niazi

LAHORE: Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has accepted a leave application of Chief Secretary Punjab Javed Mehmood.

Javed Mehmood has stated that he may be allowed to proceed on leave so that the impression that he was influencing the proceedings of the case with regard to a road accident with his car in which Col (retd) Ikram died could be removed.
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According to sources, it was actually the CM who forced Javed Mahmood to go on leave. Though the death of Col Ikram was an accident, however, various sections of the society took exception to it only because the car was carrying the chief secretary and some grave violations of rules were committed.

The PML-Q and later Governor Salmaan Taseer criticised the handling of the case by the government. They might be exploiting the situation to their political advantage, as alleged by some PML-N quarters, but the fact that a violation of law immediately after the accident, substantiated by departure of the accused driver, has never been addressed by the government authorities.

The ruling Punjab government was being pressurised by different corners regarding the transfer of the chief secretary. However, the Punjab government, instead of transferring him, sent him on leave. Some bureaucratic circles were of the view that a media campaign was started against Javed Mahmood to malign him.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 Feb 2010 06:14

putnanja wrote:Absence of dialogue is hurting India - Siddharth Varadarajan

..and it's a lovely sexy pain that India is feeling and we don't want it to stop hurting.

More seriously how is it hurting? Frankly it hurts to click on that link - so someone please explain it to me. The last article I read that stated that India is being hurt by absence of dialog explained that India was being hurt because India and Pakistan were joined at the hip.

..I am still trying to figure that one out and now this article is being thrown at me early in the morning when I am most vulnerable.