Re: Terrorist attack on Delhi High Court
Posted: 09 Sep 2011 07:18
Leave him. Another feku. Eat the salt and do dhoka.
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3 injured missing from RMLInvestigators tracked down the first email to a cyber-café in Kishtwar and detained three suspects on Thursday. The HuJI email claimed the attack within hours of the blast.
The home ministry said both claims were being verified and preventive steps being taken. But Delhi Police’s anti-terror team — ordered to assist the NIA — believe the IM email appeared credible. “We believe the blast seems to be the handiwork of a local module of the IM, not HuJI,” a Delhi Police officer said, adding they had sent out teams to Kashmir, Lucknow and western UP to pursue leads.
One officer spoke about surveillance mounted by the police in a western UP village, a little over 100 km from Delhi. “One of our teams is attempting to zero in on certain individuals residing at a particular village. It has been on surveillance since last evening,” he said.
The Special Cell of Delhi Police is on the lookout for three persons who seem to have disappeared after being admitted at Ram Manohar Lohia (RML) Hospital after the high court blast on Wednesday morning. The Cell, through a team of 15 officers, has asked the hospital administration to provide them the footage that CCTVs installed inside the hospital have recorded since patients started pouring-in at the facility after the blast.
"The trio has not been formally discharged and the addresses, which they provided us during a verification drive inside the hospital yesterday, have been found to be incorrect," said a senior police officer.
The explosive found in the parking lot of the Delhi high court on May 25 was not a dry run for September 7 terror strike but an operation undone by faulty equipment and damp conditions. Investigators believe that the May 25 explosion and September 7 blast — the death toll climbed to 13 on Thursday — are the work of the same group, who learnt from the failed attempt.
The improvised explosive devices (IED) used are similar — both had shrapnel and timer devices, most likely mobile phones.
The May 25 attempt failed because of defective detonators and dampness, say forensics.
“More than one detonator was used in the May 25 IED. It can also be safely said the IED was bigger than the one used on Wednesday,” said an investigator, who refused to be identified as he is not authorised to speak to the media.
The battery didn't send enough charge for the detonator to set off the blast, burning the explosive, the investigator said.
"That left the ammonium nitrate-based IED unexploded. It also didn't help that the IED was packed in a bag and the area where it was left was damp." There is a distinct possibility that the person tasked with planting the bomb got nervous or ran out of time and couldn't assemble the bomb properly.
But no such mistakes were made while planting the explosive at the busy gate 5 of the high court. The IED was packed in a briefcase not a bag - protecting the explosive against rain and dampness.
And, a briefcase - commonly used by lawyers and litigants - would hardly arouse suspicion in a court complex.
"This time, the terrorists used pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) which is a far better nitrate explosive than ammonium nitrate. It is a commercially available explosive used in mining," said a source, who didn't wish to be identified.
Check the google maps link. Saraya Mir(place of Abu Salem) and Biliariyaganj (IM guy who escaped from Batala house enc. was caught here) are in Aazamgarh. There are many pockets of mini pakistan around Aazamgarh. Mau has significant "peace" population but no IM or SIMI link has come up yet.so at least at BRF we should be more specific and say Mau in place of wide brush Azamgarh.
The handing over of the probe of Wednesday's blast from the Delhi Police to the National Investigation Agency (NIA) means the latter will have to go back to the drawing board, quite literally. And the first thing the agency will have to redo is the sketches of the terror suspects. The new sketches will be prepared by the NIA's own men based on their questioning of witnesses of the high-intensity blast that shook Delhi High Court.
This is the first time the NIA is handling a terror probe.
While some senior officers of Delhi Police are worried that the old sketches released by it might not match the new ones, many others have welcomed the decision.
"We have been preparing sketches of suspects since the special cell came into existence in the late 1980s in the immediate aftermath of Operation Bluestar. But I don't really think a sketch has ever led us to a single terrorist," admitted a senior Delhi Police officer who did not want to be named.
A team of eight persons from the Delhi Police, under the supervision of an inspector, prepares sketches from over 48,000 specimens of 12 different 'sectors' of the human face.
A witness is made to go through, identify and help copy-paste each specimen based on his/her recollection of a face, usually viewed for a fraction of a second.
"What else can one expect of a person whose mind is clouded with painful memories? It's still possible to remember whether or not the suspect had a beard or not, but how can one remember everything from someone's hairstyle to the shape of the nose after looking at them for just a second or two?" the officer asked.
Sources claim majority of sketches — especially of terror suspects — that usually spring-up across the city before Republic Day or Independence Day are nothing but reproductions of earlier sketches with slight modifications.
"Some of these sketches have been in use for at least a decade now," said the officer.

The Ulema council is active from Azamgarh as a "district". They have organized a lot and forced a roll-back of surveillance/"seacrh and sanitize" ops into the villages. They are being dubbed a "secular Muslim" movement by Islamophiles and claimed also to have support of oppressed "Hindu castes" - ironically claiming that even the "Dalit" movement has failed "Muslims" [what happened to the secular identity?] I agree Mau now contains a lot of foot soldiers, but the "elite" saudi/dubai wallehs of classical Azamgarh should not be assumed to be out of a share of leadership or patronage. In fact Islamophiles accused Adityanath as the "mafia" forgetting the illustrious Muslim sons of the soil engaged in the noble profession.niran wrote:Azamgarh used to include Maunath bhanjan, it is a small town full of ROP follower 8 km east of Azamgarh
later on on popular demands it became a separate district with the name Mau, nath bhanjan hurts the delicate sensibilities of ROPiers hence removed, this is the main center of ROPiers, and as usual the streets
are few feet wide with extreme overcrowding and obviously hoards and hoards of unemployed ready to yell
AoA, Azamgarh now only have few scattered villages with ROPiers most are Doobai/Saudi walley and better
economic wise hence low terroristic trait, so at least at BRF we should be more specific and say Mau in place of wide brush Azamgarh.
WRT to Varanasi blast AdM R is spot on, it was supposed to serve two purpose
one to test new tech
two to blame those who wear Saffron Langoti(Indian underwear)
but some bumbling local pandus and local babu had the temerity to install a CCTV camera, more blasphemous was the fact that the CCTV network worked and absolutely death by stone throwing blashphemy local babu retrived the information along with video evidence of workers working and planting
the IED weeks before the blast, and the said workers were ROPiers hence all investigation was ordered shut it is "ongoing" on paper onlee.(this of course is from the Fly on the wall at Local Pandu ishtashun so no can quote me or proof or links)
NIA spreads net: 5 detained in Jammu, 2 emails, too few leadsThe email that terror outfit Indian Mujahideen (IM) sent to the media on Thursday is unlike any of its previous cyber communications sent to own any attack, said counter-terrorism intelligence sources. IM's latest email claiming responsibility for the blast outside the Delhi high court is in conversational Hindi but in English alphabets, unlike its earlier emails that were composed in English and had displayed impressive language skills.
In another first, indicating the depletion of its resources specialising in communication for propaganda and recruitment purposes, the author of the email has mis-spelt the outfit's name as ‘Indian Muzahiddeen’, said a blast investigator.
The typical IM logo, depicting two masked men with AK-47 automatics, is also missing.
Unlike in the past, the latest email does not use the portable document format (PDF), nor was its content lengthy. The latest email is curt, unlike the previous communications's rhetorical style peppered with verses from religious scriptures and instances of perceived mis-treatment of Muslims in India.
The mail also does not bear the signatures of its alleged chief controllers Riyaz Bhatkal and Iqbal Bhatkal, who use the aliases of 'Guru Al Hindi' and 'Al Arbi'.
Investigators tracked the first email which had claimed responsibility — it was sent three hours after the blast from from [email protected] — to a cybercafe in Kishtwar town in Jammu district.
Those detained in Kishtwar were identified as: Khwaja Mehmood Aziz, the owner of the cyber cafe, Global Internet; his brother Khalid Aziz; their employee Ashwani Kumar; and two college students Imran Hussain Sheikh of Upper Malitath and Ashiq Hussain from Khandkoot in Doda.
The two students were reportedly among those who visted the cybercafe yesterday afternoon after the blast.
The cybercafe has been sealed and the computer used for sending the e-mail seized.
Located in Malik Market near Shaheedi Chowk, Global Internet cafe is frequented mostly by school and college students as it’s near many educational institutions and private coaching centres. While the owners would usually sit at the mobile repair shop adjoining the cyber cafe, their employee, Ashwani Kumar, would attend to customers at Global Internet.
Sources said the owners had not maintained proper records of customers, allowing the students to surf the net after just checking their identity cards.
“Nobody has been arrested so far,” said J&K Director General of Police Kuldeep Khoda. “We are in the process of questioning the cybercafe owners to trace the person who sent the e-mail”. He said the police are preparing sketches of the customers, based on the details provided by the Aziz brothers.
Confirming that the e-mail sent yesterday claiming responsibility for Delhi blast had been traced to the cyber cafe in Kishtwar, Khoda said: “We are waiting for the NIA team from Delhi to reach here for checking the hard disk of the seized computer.”
The cafe owners have no prior record of any militant links. While Mehmood is an engineer, one of his brothers, Yasir Aziz, is a doctor in Indonesia, while another brother is an agriculture graduate.
Even as this end was being explored, a second e-mail was received by media houses in Mumbai and Delhi at 12.37 pm from “[email protected]”, claiming that the “Indian Muzahiddin (sic)” was behind the blast. Denying any HuJI role in the blast, it dared the government and the police to stop it from striking at a shopping mall on Tuesday.
The mail purportedly said that they (the attackers) had chosen Wednesday as the day of the blast as it was a busy day for the High Court — it hears PILs on Wednesday.
“We are examining the (second) email... its authenticity and veracity and (we are) taking it seriously,” said Secretary (Internal Security) in the Home Ministry U K Bansal. However, the mail does not resemble the earlier messages sent by the Indian Mujahideen which had claimed responsibility for blasts in Varanasi and Delhi.
As police investigate the Kishtwar angle, sources aid that the area does have a significant number of “underground and overground” sympathisers of HuJI. On December 21, 2008, for example, the police arrested HuJI’s Sohail Ahmed, a resident of Chatroo in Kishtwar. Police said that during interrogation it emerged that Ahmed was allegedly involved in the 2007 Faizabad and Varanasi blasts.
A few months before Ahmed’s arrest, another alleged terrorist, Sabba, involved in the same blasts, had been gunned down in an encounter with the police in Kishtwar. Operations against the outfit in J&K, especially in Doda and Kishtwar areas, were stepped up between 2007 and 2010. Moreover, HuJI has in the past also targeted judicial establishments.
Incidentally, Bashir Ahmed Mir, HuJI’s India “commander-in-chief,” was killed in an encounter in the Doda district on January 25, 2008. Operating under the code-name Hijazi, police said, Pak-trained Mir was responsible for a series of attacks in many parts of the country in 2006-07, including the court complex bombings in Uttar Pradesh, the Ajmer shrine bombing, and the multiple bombings in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh in May-August, 2007.
Senior J&K Police officials say the dense forests of the Pir Panjal mountain range in the Doda-Anantnag belt serve as an effective shield for the militants.
“It is possible that the e-mail claiming the responsibility for the blast was sent by an OGW. However, the owner did not ask for the identity papers of the person neither any record was made in the register maintained by cyber cafe owners,” said a NIA official.
Another district commander of the HuJI, Mohammad Amin alias Rahi was gunned down by security forces near a village in Kishtwar in 2008. Maulana Mohammad Yahya, the suspected chief of the group, was arrested on August 18 by the Bangladesh Rapid Action Battallion (RAB). Yahya has been designated as “specially designated global terrorist” by US while HuJI was designated as a “foreign terrorist organisation in 2008.”
Said Special Secretary (internal security) U K Bansal: “We are looking into the claim of IM. NIA is also being assisted by ATS team from neighbouring states.”
Apart from Delhi Police, Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan and Punjab ATS have been roped in to help NIA. Union Home P Chidambaram also held a high-level meeting to take stock of the situation with the IB, R&AW chiefs along with NSA S S Menon were also present.
The agency said that forensic experts called from Gandhinagar and Hyderabad visited the blast spot on Thursday and are learnt to have found some “more material” which may have relevance to the investigation. The NIA team on Thursday also sought the help of Delhi Fire Services to gather some of the evidence scattered in the area.
A man from Patna who was arrested on charges of using a stolen ATM card, is also being interrogated. PTI, quoting official sources, reported that a person was detained at Srinagar airport on his return from New Delhi following an input received from a defence intelligence agency about a conversation on September 5. He had purportedly told his brother that “the work would be done by 11 am on September 7 and that he was reaching on September 6 and returning on September 8 after finishing the work.”
Probe handed over to NIA, so special cell officers miffedIn the absence of leads, police are closely examining what the statement of a key eyewitness in the Delhi High Court blast probe. This witness, an east Delhi resident (his name has been withheld to protect his identity), has told the police that the bomber was “wearing a safari suit,” placed the grey briefcase between the men’s and the senior citizens’ queues, turned back, disappeared into the crowd.
It was based on his version that one of the two sketches was prepared by the police.
The east Delhi resident, according to his statement accessed by The Indian Express, was standing at the end of the men’s queue and noticed a “middle-aged man” cross over from his queue to the senior citizens’ queue.
“He was a little ahead of me. He came from behind, jumped the queue and crossed over to the senior citizens’ queue,” he said. “While crossing over, he placed the briefcase in between. People realised there was something suspicious and raised an alarm but a minute later, the briefcase exploded.”
A Rajasthan Armed Constabulary (RAC) policeman standing near the senior citizens’ queue told The Indian Express that he heard people say “ye suitcase kiska hai” before it exploded.
The second sketch was based on the version provided by a woman in her mid-twenties who said that a man was trying to get in the women’s queue and “when he was asked what was he up to, he started an argument.” He later moved to the men’s queue, she said.
Rain hampers probe, police say suspect may not be among victimsThe Centre has handed over the investigations related to both May 25 and September 7 Delhi high court blasts to National Investigation Agency (NIA). This had left the officers of Special Cell agitated as for the first time the once elite unit has received this kind of a setback.
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As the case is formally with NIA, the Special Cell officers can't take any suspect into custody for interrogation, which they see as a disadvantage. Sources say NIA has a very weak local intelligence system, which may lead to delay of many days in solving the case.
The manner in which the government has handed over the case to NIA, which is a two-year-old infant, has left the Special Cell wondering what to do with the 400 cops who are experts in technical analysis, intelligence, interrogating terror suspects, collecting forensic evidence and coordinating with other state police departments. The Cell might not be of much help to NIA in the case and officers there are working on an independent probe. They believe Indian Mujahideen is involved in the blast.
On Thursday, most of the sub-inspectors and inspectors of the Cell were busy in hospital formalities. Sources say they have questioned a few persons in the past 24 hours but there are no clues yet.
This unit has 400 cops and gets the support of all local police stations and units like crime branch and special branch while NIA has formed a team of 20 officers to investigate the blast.
There are also reports that the Special Cell cops are demoralized because of the government's attitude for the past few months. They feel they have not been allowed to work properly.
Special Cell has been instrumental in solving most of the blast cases in the country, including the unearthing of the Indian Mujahideen module after the September 19 Batla House encounter and had conducted operations in various states. Now, senior officers of Special Cell, Special CP P N Aggarwal and DCP Arun Kampani, are learnt to have asked them to catch robbers and drug peddlers.
From twitter:hnair wrote:^^^ How many billions of Indian taxpayer money did govt of India pay the pakis to snitch and otherwise help us out? There is a limit to kiss-assery too, saar
edited: removed emoticon.
Nothing to learn, I guess.sonaliranade SonaliRanade
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Just few pages back, there was a article about how the Special Cell was in virtual shutdown mode and only tracing robbers etc and this article says they are super-duper intel/forensic masters?The manner in which the government has handed over the case to NIA, which is a two-year-old infant, has left the Special Cell wondering what to do with the 400 cops who are experts in technical analysis, intelligence, interrogating terror suspects, collecting forensic evidence and coordinating with other state police departments.
bothsum wrote:Just few pages back, there was a article about how the Special Cell was in virtual shutdown mode and only tracing robbers etc and this article says they are super-duper intel/forensic masters?The manner in which the government has handed over the case to NIA, which is a two-year-old infant, has left the Special Cell wondering what to do with the 400 cops who are experts in technical analysis, intelligence, interrogating terror suspects, collecting forensic evidence and coordinating with other state police departments.
Which is correct?
Unlikely sir. The price of getting caught in such a situation is political death which is too heavy for a politico.ramana wrote:It could be elements sympathetic to Digvijay Singh ideology.
Mumbai and this one smells of faction fight inside INC. The fact that NIA cant find the perpetrators means they are INC sponsored. Varanasi was trial of new way of IEDs. Mumbai was successful deployment. Now Delhi HC. Its to show PC his place. look at how people are reacting ot PC even here. He is the political target.
Indian police can find the clues in about 48 hrs typically even in the most difficult cases.
In the past, India has often blamed Pakistan-based groups for carrying out attacks on Indian soil.
Its now official Indian policy IMO to absolve TSP so that by showering so much love on TSP, so much self loathing, blaming "saffron terror", at least that will impress TSP generals to spare India. Its another self satisfying explanation to not take on TSP. Its much easier and self righteous to say the problem is internal than show the courage and natioonal sense of purpose in taking TSP to task. Already TSP is praising India for its maturity in not blaming TSP for the Delhi blasts, and thanking India for supporting TSP on EU import/exports. Maybe the Delhi blasts were a gentle reminder by TSP to India to deliver or else.IndraD wrote: ^^ How can he make a claim like this when investigation in previous blasts have reached no where. If he says Pak is not involved he should also tell who is involved?
they were falsely implicated... no one left a trail. those cases were done by islamofascist onlee. if brfite believes that col. purohit was guilty than what would aam junta do?
PS-couple of people caught in name of Hindu terrorism was because of the fact that they were not trained by an agency like ISI. They left behind trails and were caught .
Delhi Police have received a third e-mail purportedly sent by Indian Mujahideen claiming responsibility for Wednesday's blast outside the high court along with a warning to the government of another attack.
Sources said the mail was sent to Delhi Police's official e-mail ID last night.
They said the sender identified himself as Ali Saed El-Hoorie and sent the mail from the ID [email protected].
"This is to inform you that the India Mujahideen claims the terror attack on Delhi High Court. I just want you to pass a message to the Indian Government that next blast will be so cruel that you people won't be able to forget it for decay (sic)," the e-mail read, according to the sources.
"...And if you are willing to know the next attack, it is 1,8,5,13,4,1,2,1,4 till you come to know what it stands for the next blast will be done. If you have any questions because we don't have time for anything," the sources said, quoting the e-mail.
The sources said the code numbers used by them can be interpreted as Ahmedabad.
Pranay wrote:http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?734152
Delhi Police have received a third e-mail purportedly sent by Indian Mujahideen claiming responsibility for Wednesday's blast outside the high court along with a warning to the government of another attack.
Sources said the mail was sent to Delhi Police's official e-mail ID last night.
They said the sender identified himself as Ali Saed El-Hoorie and sent the mail from the ID [email protected].
"This is to inform you that the India Mujahideen claims the terror attack on Delhi High Court. I just want you to pass a message to the Indian Government that next blast will be so cruel that you people won't be able to forget it for decay (sic)," the e-mail read, according to the sources.
"...And if you are willing to know the next attack, it is 1,8,5,13,4,1,2,1,4 till you come to know what it stands for the next blast will be done. If you have any questions because we don't have time for anything," the sources said, quoting the e-mail.
The sources said the code numbers used by them can be interpreted as Ahmedabad.
any cryptologists here who can decode the above number sequence?
You dont need a cryptologist to decode this. A three year old can do that. This was probably sent by an unwashed abdul who has senn too many movies. AHEMDABAD. Could not even spell Ahmedabad!any cryptologists here who can decode the above number sequence?
Some members of the UPA government are very mindful of American interests and pressure. I now believe in the Mrs. IG dictum of 'foreign hand'.IndraD wrote:^^ How can he make a claim like this when investigation in previous blasts have reached no where. If he says Pak is not involved he should also tell who is involved?
No, it seems to be used also by some well known web design fronts.saip wrote:You dont need a cryptologist to decode this. A three year old can do that. This was probably sent by an unwashed abdul who has senn too many movies. AHEMDABAD. Could not even spell Ahmedabad!any cryptologists here who can decode the above number sequence?
It will not happen until domestic opposition gets to the point where it outshines the perceptions of the need to keep internal Islamists happy. Then just like CPC-PLA factional needs, one faction of the current regime may push for military action - to raise "nationalist" sentiment and bypass the threat to dynastic hold. we have not yet reached the point.ramana wrote:Sanjeevpunj, Unless there is irrefutable evidence that TSP is involved like capture of Kasab (by ordinary Mumbai police not to forget) it will be difficult. Hence ISI uses disgruntled Indians to carry out the attack to provide palusible denialbility because terrorism is handled as acrime so the burdenof proof is high. If terrorism by a state is handled as act of war then the burden of proof is smaller.
I want people to think what will be scenario if India decides to take conventional military strikes with the proviso that nuke escalation is on cards if deterrence breaks or outside forces intervene like PRC or massa. IOW deterrenc gets expanded from NFU. SS Menon already expanded NFU only to non-nuke/NWS states last year.