Re: Beheading of Indian Soldiers in Aug 2011 and Aman ki Ash
Posted: 12 Jan 2013 23:03
Media blackout?
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Agree with you, but this Islamo-Christianist cabal regime did not fall from the sky -- it is a democracy and this abomination was wilfully voted to power by the Hindus by rejecting Hindu nationalists. What does it tell us about the IQ level of ordinary Hindus? What kind of Hindus would reject Hindu nationalists and prefer a Islamo-Chritianist regime to rule them?RajeshA wrote:I don't think we can expect much from the present Govt. The interests of the nation and those of the Islamo-Christianist Cabal Regime in India simply do not coincide.
And one needs to call the current dispensation by its rightful name - an Islamo-Christianist Cabal Regime!
ramana wrote:We will all be hopping mad if we concentrate on Indian media and responses.
All are partial and don't give the picture.
As usual pay heed to US, PRC and TSP to understand whats happening.
We cant rely on the govt or its minions to get an understanding.
The gang rape diverted the attention of these fools from the important goings on since second week of Dec 2012.
Hindu nationalism is a chimera. The faster Indians realize this the better for them. Indians or the vast majority will vote a tolerant, pragmatic and a non confrontational larger identity. Indians or again the vast majority will vote in those that bring change reflecting those ideals as a first choice. NM gets votes exactly on those fronts. However it does not imply that when the need for confrontation is there, the party with these credentials will do as well. That the Indian voter is seeing today in the present INC setup. Devoid of ideas. it is appalling to note it is non confrontational even with gross injustice and prefers to suck up than confront. There is going to be a change in voting patterns after this 8 year stint by UPA that the voter will want all 3 characteristics plus the ability to confront ugly forces. NM showed that early on. Is it any wonder that he is getting so much press and popularity today.it is a democracy and this abomination was wilfully voted to power by the Hindus by rejecting Hindu nationalists. What does it tell us about the IQ level of ordinary Hindus? What kind of Hindus would reject Hindu nationalists and prefer a Islamo-Chritianist regime to rule them?
And the government pooh-poohs ACM Browne's comments ......
In an exclusive interview to The Hindu, the foreign minister, who was on a two-day visit to France, also said he felt the Indian and Pakistani governments had the capacity to overcome the present crisis: “We think this will pass. We think that we have enough arrangements in place between the Pakistanis and ourselves to counter these issues. But our main and burning concern is what happened to our men. The mutilation and beheading that took place is tragic, unfortunate, inhuman, and we think there should be some clarity, some truth that must be brought out. Even if you have to think of reconciliation, it must come after the truth is brought out. That is important, and we haven’t heard anything very helpful as far as that is concerned.”
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Mr. Khurshid said India will continue to make efforts to get to the bottom of the matter and that truth was a necessary ingredient of any reconciliation. “I think we have tried and we will continue to try to contain emotions to ensure that the matter does not escalate beyond any reasonable limits. [bThere are understandable calls for strong action on the part of India. We are hoping the other side will be more responsive to our cautious approach despite public pressure and we would certainly urge the Pakistanis to respond.[/b] There are various ways and levels at which ceasefire violations or the stopping of trade or movement of people can be treated but our major concern is the treatment of our soldiers and on that we have received no substantial response so far.”
Mr. Khurshid reiterated his earlier remarks on the question of Kashmir saying the mutilation of two Indian soldiers in Kashmir was “extremely shocking and unacceptable, even barbaric.”
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Though government officials said Browne’s statement reflected the “sense of outrage” within the armed forces over the brutal killing of the two jawans and termed it “tolerable”, they made it clear it should be taken in isolation and did not reflect any move to scale up the issue. India is clearly looking to resolve the matter at the local level with a flag meeting that has already been proposed by the Army.
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ramana wrote:ramana wrote:We will all be hopping mad if we concentrate on Indian media and responses.
All are partial and don't give the picture.
As usual pay heed to US, PRC and TSP to understand whats happening.
We cant rely on the govt or its minions to get an understanding.
The gang rape diverted the attention of these fools from the important goings on since second week of Dec 2012.
While the GOI is paralyzed by corruption, gang rape, criminals in Lok Sabha, remote control by the DIEnasty, slowly the pieces are being moved to make India jump on US bandwagon.
They don't want India to be uncommitted in their global golmal. Not again.
Thanks to stupidity India might be forced on to that great gamble.
Why stupidity you ask?
UPA had 8 years to put in place economic reforms to make inclusive growth and reduce the million mutinies. PC scam meister can take credit for this.
They could have tightened the internal security to prevent TSP a chance to play inside India. Instead they came up with mythical Hindu terror and divided the country even further. National Insecurity adviser MKNeroyanan can take credit for this. pc also weakened the MHA into a partisan Bullice organization and turned the CTC, NIA and other national organizations to combat terrorists into a farce.
They could have beefed up the India Armed forces strength in the last 8 years. Instead the do nothing Mr Clean AKA could find no deal he could accept.
Above all MMS and his remote controllers did noting to provide options for India and destroyed every one of them.
The sad state of affairs is Indian citizens get scammed, gang raped in Delhi and Indian Army soldiers get beheaded inside our borders.
And the Cabinet blames the victims in both cases!!!
Now this is something I can agree with more than other posts. It is time to stop creating threads and take charge of the country. Retards who we have put in charge by conveniently staying absent from political process have NO INCENTIVE to respond differently than the way they are responding. Taking any sort of tough measures requires serious planning, preparedness for taking short-term economic hit, and risking political career which NO ONE wants in the establishment. Want to fix it, take charge of the country. Let BRFite be the next prime minister and let Pranab Mukharji do the blogging.I think it is time to close this thread. No use getting all worked up over this. The EAM has officially responded. Read and weep...
@ Ramana ^^^ Are there any stats on the growth of VIP protection in India? That would clue us into who they think is the real enemy—us or the pakis. Last I heard 20 cops per VIP and some 0.95 per 1000 per aam admi. What's the ratio 20K times the protection?
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India Today has a story on Order of battle for India and TSP.
It hasn't changed from 2001 when Operation Parakram was underway.
Instead of stealing Rs 100,000 crores they could have raised two more strike corps and given us options.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indi ... 41932.html
Close the thread and you have a lot of muttering middle aged guys fuming. And that's ex post facto just about what you can say about the 2500 years of being doormats (as Abdul Kalam said).chanakyaa wrote:Now this is something I can agree with more than other posts. It is time to stop creating threads and take charge of the country. Retards who we have put in charge by conveniently staying absent from political process have NO INCENTIVE to respond differently than the way they are responding. Taking any sort of tough measures requires serious planning, preparedness for taking short-term economic hit, and risking political career which NO ONE wants in the establishment. Want to fix it, take charge of the country. Let BRFite be the next prime minister and let Pranab Mukharji do the blogging.I think it is time to close this thread. No use getting all worked up over this. The EAM has officially responded. Read and weep...
Shinde said out of 86,000 Delhi Police personnel, nearly 7,000 were deployed for VIP security.
"Out of this, 2,500 policemen are deployed for security of Z-plus (highest category) VIPs and the rest for security of high court and vital installations," he said.
It is quite possible some journalists are on ISI rolls. See for example this interview of Karan Thapar where he is told by Madhu Trehan point blank that a senior minister in the central government told her they have information Thapar is on ISI rolls. He propagates the Pakistani view in India. Why is no action ever taken against these traitors?venug wrote:^^^^ It is a possibility that Praveen Swami's sources are not the Indian Army but the Paki army. He even got the IA commander's name wrong so much for his investigative journalism.
Ramana, what more options ? Has GoI used up existing options ? Do you believe that the two extra strike corps would have made GoI retaliate ? GoI is on a self-destructive trajectory with TSP.ramana wrote:Instead of stealing Rs 100,000 crores they could have raised two more strike corps and given us options.
ramana wrote:Cosmo, Straight from kudremukh!![]()
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Shinde said out of 86,000 Delhi Police personnel, nearly 7,000 were deployed for VIP security.
"Out of this, 2,500 policemen are deployed for security of Z-plus (highest category) VIPs and the rest for security of high court and vital installations," he said.
Philip ji, why use the asterisk? Say it openly. Because that is what the UPA govt is. A govt of eunuchs. and MMS is the head eunuch.Philip wrote:NM has "seized the day",the mood of the nation,unlike the asinine e*n*chs of the UPA,who are adding insult to injury by making outrageous statements that Indo-Pak relations "will not be affected"!
Excellent Chanakyaji! We've got a 100 votes.. now we need to get the rest of the educated Indians to vote.. any ideas on that?chanakyaa wrote:Now this is something I can agree with more than other posts. It is time to stop creating threads and take charge of the country. Retards who we have put in charge by conveniently staying absent from political process have NO INCENTIVE to respond differently than the way they are responding. Taking any sort of tough measures requires serious planning, preparedness for taking short-term economic hit, and risking political career which NO ONE wants in the establishment. Want to fix it, take charge of the country. Let BRFite be the next prime minister and let Pranab Mukharji do the blogging.I think it is time to close this thread. No use getting all worked up over this. The EAM has officially responded. Read and weep...
abhishek_sharma wrote:nitin gokhale @nitingokhale
Flag meeting between Indian and Pakistani commanders at Chanknabanda in Poonch sector at 1 pm tomorrow
nitin gokhale @nitingokhale
India to protest strongly the incident of beheading and demand the return of the head of the soldier during the flag meeting on Monday
Haha..I saw that response coming. 100 votes is a good start..all we need to do is vote multiple times, as some do, and there you have it... Just kidding. Ok, now on a much serious note. Sir, I'm not after increasing educated people to show up at the voting booth. If the people running for office are the scum of the society, as majority, not all are, attendance of 100% of educated at the voting booth is not going to give you a better result. What BRFites can and should do in its current form is actively seek to influence decisions makers in government, military, media, finance/banking to effectively control the population to get the desired results. This faceless but highly effective opposition to the the establishment (pick a name of your favorite political party or leader) is very difficult to pick on and supress. BRFites are capable of offering a better platform for millions of indians to participate. If BRFites don't take charge, after thousands new threads and millions new posts we will find out ourselves back to square one (existence of paki state, more paki brutalities and god know what else)..Shonu wrote:Excellent Chanakyaji! We've got a 100 votes.. now we need to get the rest of the educated Indians to vote.. any ideas on that?chanakyaa wrote:
Now this is something I can agree with more than other posts. It is time to stop creating threads and take charge of the country. Retards who we have put in charge by conveniently staying absent from political process have NO INCENTIVE to respond differently than the way they are responding. Taking any sort of tough measures requires serious planning, preparedness for taking short-term economic hit, and risking political career which NO ONE wants in the establishment. Want to fix it, take charge of the country. Let BRFite be the next prime minister and let Pranab Mukharji do the blogging.