Positive News from the USA

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 28 Jan 2014 01:02

This forum itself is a Good news from USA. It was created due to creation of Internet after breakup of AT&T (company founded by A.G Bell) and ARPANET . Then TCP/IP, Email and finally Microsoft and its PC.

The world people can easily talk to each other is all because of USA.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jan 2014 01:17

You forget Al Gore!!!

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 28 Jan 2014 02:19

rgsrini wrote:
Neela wrote:Amreeki ability to put people behind bars is astounding - whopping 716 per 100,000 of population is incarcerated. Speaks about the unforgiving nature of the judiciary & also the people.
May I humbly suggest that you have misintepreted that statistics. America is peaceful and completely crime free because of the existence of strong law and order, within its society. The number would be a lot higher in developing country if not for the fear that a common man has for its police force.

For example, a common man in India, does not expect justice from the police force. This has proven to be a major stumbling block for even reporting major and minor crimes. It is unfortunate that Indians have a sense of fear of their own protectors, even though the policeforce is as malnourished due to lack of protien, as any other Indian.

In America, justice is easily attainable to a common man, as it is for the rich. American law and the implementers of law, doesn't differentiate between the rich and poor, is color blind, humane and just. The 716 per 100K would have been a lot higher if not for the proactive action of police in American society.

Proactive police action in America prevents crime

Why you post just a link? Why no post details?

Lawsuit Alleges Cops Planted Gun on Dead Teen

The family of slain teen, Fong Lee, have filed a lawsuit against the Minneapolis police and the officer who killed him. The family has compiled a review of police reports, witness statements and other evidence that support the theory that Fong Lee was unarmed when he was shot by police eight times in 2006 and the gun found near his body was planted there by police. The gun that the officers claim to have found near Fong Lee's body had been recovered by police from a burglary and was kept as evidence. The family also alleges in court documents that Minneapolis police "may have tried to deliberately alter history by writing new reports indicating the gun recovered near Fong Lee's body was not the same gun" that had been recovered after the burglary. The evidence suggests that Minnesota police planted the gun to cover themselves after killing Fong Lee in the street. Police reports indicate that no fingerprints or DNA was found on the weapon.

Cops Raid Wrong House, Assault 12-Year-Old Girl

In Galveston, Texas, a 12-year-old girl stepped outside her home to flip the breaker switch for her mother when a blue van stopped outside the home, three men jumped out, grabbed her and called her a prostitute. When the child screamed for her Dad to help her, the men covered her mouth and beat her in the face and throat. The three men were undercover police officers who happened to be at the wrong house when they grabbed this child. The girl was hospitalized and suffered bruising and ear drum injuries as a result of the incident. Three weeks later, police showed up at the child's school and arrested her for assaulting a public servant for fighting back when they grabbed her. The judge declared a mistrial in the case on the first day of trial and it was rescheduled. The child's mother, Emily Milburn, has filed a lawsuit against the officers.

Woman Dies While Cop Writes Speeding TIcket

A man who was driving his 83-year-old dying mother to the hospital was stopped by a Shelby County, Tennessee deputy less than a mile from the hospital because his truck had expired tags. The officer insisted on writing the ticket instead of letting the man get his mom to the hospital, and as a result, she died. The deputy had been with the sheriff's department less than three years and faced no disciplinary action as a result of the incident. The son of the deceased woman says that the deputy showed no remorse for his mother's death.

Tasered to Death in Louisiana

Baron "Scooter" Pikes was 21 years old when he was handcuffed by police in Winnfield, Louisiana and Tasered nine times. Pikes was dead 39 minutes later. Officer Scott Nugent saw Pikes walking and attempted to arrest him on an outstanding warrant. Pikes ran but was soon cornered by another officer. The officer shocked Pikes with a Taser nine times. The officers say that on the way to the police station, Pikes became ill and they called for an ambulance. He was pronounced dead at the hospital. This incident happened near Jena and sparked more racial tensions as Nugent is white and Pikes was a black man.

Tasered to Death in Maryland

In Frederick County, Maryland, a healthy 20-year-old man died after being shot with a Taser by a sheriff's deputy. Police were called to the scene of a fight and found four people fighting. They tasered one of the men and he fell unconscious. He was transported to the hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival.

South Carolina Teen Beaten by Police

In Greenville County, South Carolina, an 18-year-old man was pulled over by an undercover sheriff's deputy. The deputy's dash cam recorded deputy Brian Tollison punching Jeremy Rucker in the face 18 times as he attempts to take him into custody. Soon, a backup deputy appears on the video and holds Rucker while Tollison hits him again. More deputies arrived and the teen was removed from his truck, tasered and kicked in the torso as he is taken into custody. Tollison was fired and faces criminal charges stemming from the beating.

Disabled Woman in Wheelchair Dies After Being Tasered 10 Times

In Clay County, Florida, a56-year-old mentally ill, wheelchair-bound woman died after police shot her 10 times with Taser guns. Police were called to the home of Emily Delafield because of a disturbance. During a disturbing 911 call before her death, Delafield told the dispatcher she believed she was in danger and that her sister was trying to harm her. Officers say when they arrived, Delafield was in her wheelchair, threatening police and family members with two knives and a hammer. One officer Tasered Delafield nine times for a total of 160 seconds and another officer Tasered the woman once for less than 5 seconds. Delafield's death was ruled a homicide.

Injured Teen Tasered 19 Times

Police were called when motorists saw 16-year-old Mace Hutchinson walking along a busy overpass in Ozark, Missouri. By the time police arrived, Hutchinson had fallen and broken his back and his heel. Police officers say that because the teen did not comply with their orders, they had no choice but to use their Taser weapons on him 19 times. Police say the seriously injured Hutchinson was making incoherent statements and concerned the officers by saying things such as "shoot cops" and "kill cops" so the use of the Taser was warranted.

Police Tase Wrong Man

A 19-year-old man in Clayton, Delaware was mistakenly identified by police as the suspect in an alleged gunpoint rape and was shocked by a police Taser and bitten by a police dog before cops realized their mistake. Police say Derrick Morris was wearing clothing resembling that of the rapist and ignored police commands. Morris was listening to music on his iPod at the time and says he did not hear the police.

Deputies Taser Autistic Child

Deputies in Orange County defend their decision to Taser a 15-year-old autistic child who had run away from his parents and run into traffic. The child's mother says that she had called various police agencies to report her son missing and if he had not felt threatened by police, he would have followed their directions. Doris Karras says that the police use of the Taser on her son was a very aggressive and unnecessary response and that her son was unarmed.

Police Tase Pregnant Woman

The FBI opened an investigation into the conduct of police officers in Trotwood, Ohio after an officer used a Taser weapon on a pregnant woman. The woman showed up at the police department and informed the officer that she wished to give up custody of her 1-year-old son. The officer began questioning the woman and berating her for wanting to give up the child and she attempted to leave with the child. The officer took the child from her, handed him off to another officer and forced the woman to the floor on her stomach. He then deployed the Taser on her neck. The officers say that the woman never disclosed that she was pregnant and they couldn't tell because she was wearing winter clothing.

Officer Breaks Elderly Man's Arm

Phillip Forte, 88, is in a rehab center receiving treatment for a broken arm he sustained during a traffic stop in Oakview, Missouri. Officer Kimberly Whyley pulled Forte over for driving in the dark with no headlights. During the stop, Forte accidentally took his foot off of the brake and the vehicle rolled backwards and struck Whyley while she was writing the ticket. Forte says that Whyley became enraged by the accident and brutally broke his arm while the dash cam recorded. Whyley says that Forte was resisting arrest. She is on leave from the police department and faces misdemeanor assault charges in connection with the incident. Forte is suing the town for $5 million.

Chicago Cop Accused of Brutality for the 7th Time

A Chicago police officer is now accused of police brutality for the seventh time. John Thompson says he was playing pool in a bar during March 2008 when a police officer brutally beat him.The incident was captured on the bar's security camera. To warrant this attack, Thompson says that he accidentally bumped a woman while he was making a shot. Soon, Officer Scott Crawford appeared, grabbed the stick as Thompson was about to make a shot and punched him, knocking him to the floor. Three other officers jumped in and held him to the floor while a fourth pulled out a Taser gun and shocked him multiple times.

Phoenix Police Raid Blogger's Home

Phoenix police raided the home of blogger Jeff Pataky and confiscated all of his computers, hard drives, memory cards and computer networking equipment, along with personal files and documents related to a pending harassment lawsuit against the Phoenix Police Department. At least 10 officers entered Pataky's home while he was away. They handcuffed his female roommate for three hours while they ransacked the home looking for computer equipment and documents. The search warrant, signed by Maricopa County Judge Gary Donahoe, listed "petty theft" and "computer tampering with intent to harass" as probable causes. However, Pataky has not seen an actual affidavit detailing the probable cause because he has been told that all of the records are sealed.

Disability Provokes Police Violence

A deaf man in Fort Worth was brutalized by police a year ago after he was pulled over for speeding. What should have been a routine traffic stop turned violent when Christopher Ferrell, 43, reached for his identification to inform the officer that he is deaf. Officer J.A. Miller drew his gun, grabbed Ferrell, spun him around and slammed his head into the back windshield of the police car. Miller then forced Ferrell, who then had a broken nose and was bleeding profusely, into the police car. Miller claimed he thought Ferrell was reaching for a gun, and that is why he used excessive force against him. He was suspended without pay for two days for the incident and is appealing the decision.

Michigan Teen Dies After Being Tasered by Police

A 15-year-old boy died in Bay City, Michigan after being Tasered by police. The police were reportedly trying to intervene in an argument between two males and claim that one of them attempted to "fight the officers." After the teen was Tasered, police called for emergency medical help, but it was too late and he was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital. One of the officers involved in the incident was placed on administrative leave. The name of the teen has not been released.

Shot in the Back by BART Officer

Ex-BART officer Johannes Mehserle was charged with the New Years Day murder of Oscar Grant III after shooting him to death at the Oakland, California, transit station. Mehserle fled from California to Nevada after allegedly receiving death threats and was arrested on a fugitive warrant there. The shooting was captured on cell phone video by several witnesses. The video shows Grant being pinned down by one BART officer, then being shot in the back by Mehserle. The incident and video recordings of it sparked outrage and violence in Oakland. The district attorney has said that the video footage reveals that the shooting was an unlawful killing done as an intentional act.

YouTube Video Leads to Cop's Indictment and Resignation

A New York City cop who randomly shoved Christopher Long off his bike, then filed a false report and arrested the Critical Mass Bicyclist now faces felony charges. Officer Pogan was placed on administrative leave after a YouTube video of the incident proved his report false and later resigned. Pogan's police report stated that Long ran into him, which is clearly not the case. The charges against Long were dropped.

Unarmed Man Shot Dead in the Street by Police

On the eve of his wedding in November 2006, Sean Bell was gunned down by police outside a Queens strip club. Bell was unarmed when he and his companions were shot at 50 times by police officers. The three plainclothes undercover officers who shot and killed Bell and seriously wounded his friends were acquitted of manslaughter and reckless endangerment charges in a non-jury trial when the judge found the officers' testimony in the case to be more credible that witness testimony. The cops claimed they believed Bell had a weapon and said that he ignored ordered to freeze. However, witnesses who were with Bell when he was killed say that the police never gave any orders, they simply opened fire.

Bias and Brutality Against the Media

A news crew in El Paso was covering a traffic accident when the reporter and cameraman suddenly found themselves becoming part of the story. The crew from ABC7 arrived to report on a flipped semi and were singled out in the crowd and ordered to leave by Sgt. Raul Ramirez. When they continued filming, they were arrested, handcuffed and taken to a detention center. Reporter Darren Hunt was shoved into a chain-link fence as his arms were twisted behind his back during the arrest. Ramirez was placed on administrative duty, pending the outcome of an investigation.

Unconscious Suspect Beaten, Kicked and Clubbed

Five of Birmingham's finest have been fired forbrutally kicking and beating an unconscious suspect in January 2008. The incident was caught by a police dash cam until one of the officers realized they were being recorded and turned it off. The beating happened after a high-speed chase that ended when the suspect flipped his van. Birmingham Police Chief A.C. Roper said the officers may face criminal charges and additional disciplinary action may be taken against supervisors who failed to report the incident to higher-ups. Roper has directed the Internal Affairs Division track down every supervisor who saw the video of the beating, including those who have since retired. The victim, Anthony Warren, did not know he had been beaten with nightsticks and fists and had assumed he sustained all of his injuries in the crash. He learned he had been brutalized by police when the dash cam video surfaced at his trial in March 2009.

11-Year-Old Tasered by Police at School

At a middle school in Jonesboro, Tennessee, officials say police "had no choice" but to taser an unruly 11-year-old student. The student had a verbal altercation with another student that became physical. When the child did not respond to verbal commands to stop, a police officer at the school shot him twice with a Taser gun. The child was then handcuffed and taken to a juvenile detention center.

Shot in the Back 12 TImes by Police

On New Years Day 2009, a young man in New Orleans was shot 14 times, including 12 times in the back, by police. Adolph Grimes III was found dead a block from his grandmother's home, where he had been visiting. Seven officers involved in the incident have been reassigned, but Superintendent Warren Riley refuses to answer many questions about the shooting, saying only that Grimes opened fire on the officers first. Of course, Grimes is dead and can't tell his side of the story now.

Fresno Police Beat Restrained Homeless Man

KSEE24 News in Fresno exposed a video of police officers beating a restrained homeless man.The 52-year-old man was thrown to the ground and repeatedly punched him in the face by two officers. The Fresno police chief launched an internal investigation into the incident but has said that the beating caught on video does not tell the whole story; however, no witness statements were taken at the time of the incident.

Blinded, Confused and Shot in the Chest

Derek Copp, a 21-year-old college student and marijuana activist in Michigan, was shot in the chest by police while a drug warrant was being served at his home. An officer allegedly came through the back door, then blinded Copp by shining a flashlight directly in his face when he answered. Copp was unarmed and had no idea the man with the flashlight was a police officer. When he lifted his hand to shield his eyes, the officer shot him in the chest. The officer was placed on paid administrative leave after the shooting.

Officer Kicks Compliant Suspect in the Head

After a May 13, 2009 high-speed car chase south of Los Angeles, Calif. came to an end and there was nowhere left to run, the suspect gave up and threw himself face-down, spread-eagled on the ground. Shortly afterwards, a police officer who had been in pursuit is seen on video running up and kicking the suspect in the head. Other officers appeared moments later, hit the complaint suspect in the kidney with a nightstick several times before handcuffing him and taking him into custody.

Alleged Orlando Police Assault Under Investigation

In Orlando, Florida, police officer Fernando Trinidad was caught on video allegedly pushing a woman down a set of stairs in a club during April, 2007. After the out-of-the-blue shove sent Jessica Asprilla flying down the stairs, Trinidad arrested her for assault and battery. After Local6 in Orlando exposed the story, Asprilla filed a formal complaint and the Orlando Police Department opened a criminal investigation of Trinidad. He has been placed on administrative duty at the airport while the investigation is underway. Aspirilla says that after her arrest, she lost her job and her reputation was damaged

Mistaken Identity Leaves Man in Coma

On May 10, 2009, Christopher Harris was outside Seattle’s Cinerama Theater when an officer charged at him and slammed his head into a wall, leaving him in a coma. Police were looking for a convenience store stabbing suspect when two witnesses mistakenly identified Harris. The King County sheriff's office has nearly completed its investigation of the incident and says that it appears to have been a "tragic accident."

Tasered 19 Times and Died - No Excessive Force?

Twenty-one-year-old Patrick Lee was allegedly "acting strangely" outside a nightclub in 2005 when he was tasered by police 19 times, sprayed with pepper spray and beaten with police batons for reportedly resisting arrest and died. Lee's cause of death was listed as "excited delirium," a bullshit diagnosis that has been associated with many Taser-related deaths in which drugs were a factor. His parents sued the local government, the officers and Taser international for wrongful death. The case against the local government and Taser International was dismissed and a jury later found that the officers did not use excessive force against Lee. Lawyers for the officers said that the officers "were doing their best with the tools they were given."

Cops Take Childhood Games Seriously

On May 11, 2009, a deputy in Palmdale, Calif. shot a 15-year-old boy who was playing "cops and robbers" with a toy gun.The child had been reported to police as someone riding a bicycle and brandishing a weapon. When police responded, they ordered the boy to drop the weapon. When he failed to drop the toy, a deputy fired and shot him in the upper body.

Before everyone had a cell phone and the capacity to record video on the fly, a police beat down was, by sheer chance, caught on tape in Los Angeles on March 3, 1991. Public fury about racism and police brutality erupted when a portion of the video showing several LAPD officers Tasering, kicking, stomping and beating Rodney King with police batons was shown on television screens around the country. Although he was severely beaten and suffered multiple lacerations and bruises, a fractured facial bone and a broken leg, King got away with his life; others have not been so lucky.

LAPD officers Koon, Powell, Briseno, and Wind were charged in the beating. The acquittal of three of the officers spawned the Los Angeles Riots of 1992. After the L.A. riots, the Department of Justice obtained an indictment for civil rights violations against the four LAPD officers. Powell and Koon were found guilty and sentenced to 30 months in prison. Briseno and Wind were acquitted. This shocking evidence of excessive force and police brutality was a wake-up call for many Americans, as the once vague issue was suddenly thrust right into their living rooms with the evening news.

As technology's steady march forward made video cameras smaller, cheaper, and more readily available, more incidents of police brutality and misconduct, some resulting in death, have been caught on video. While in the past it was simply the word of an alleged criminal against that of a police officer, these new circumstances began leveling the playing field and the situation was changed considerably, marked by a sharp rise in excessive force and brutality investigations.

However, despite the fact that many incidents of police brutality are caught on video, not all officers involved are charged with excessive force. There are still plenty of cops who cross the thin blue line and are never charged with a crime, and keep their jobs or even get promoted.

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ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jan 2014 02:53

So lots of stories where DOJ can investigate the outcome of so many cases. The outcry stops when the perpetrator is suspended. We never know the follow-up action.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 28 Jan 2014 02:55

The great thing about the US of A is the 2-Party System. Each party serves as Impeachment Insurance for the other. This great combo ensures, for instance, that Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda can aspire to be more popular in the world than the US.

McCain Censure the Latest Sign of GOP Fratricide
The Fiscal Times
By Eric Pianin 2 hours ago

If there were any doubts that Republicans are in the throes of ideological fratricide... they were dispelled over the weekend in Arizona.... Arizona Republican Party members voted to censure Sen. John McCain – a highly-decorated Vietnam War hero, maverick conservative and 2008 Republican presidential nominee – for being too liberal for their taste.
“Only in times of great crisis or betrayal is it necessary to publicly censure our leaders,” stated the resolution which was approved by acclamation. “Today we are faced with both. For too long we have waited, hoping Senator McCain would get a lobotomy on his own. That has not happened. One can STILL not look into one of his ears and see straight out through the other, a required qualification for membership in our Party.”
McCain’s offenses cited in the resolution included working on comprehensive immigration reform, or “amnesty,” and not going along with last year’s conservative strategy to “defund” President Obama’s signature health-care law, according to a report in The Arizona Republic.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 28 Jan 2014 03:24

Positive news indeed. Sarah Palin ko jai ho. She will be the GOP presidential candidate for 2016. Or is it Chris "bridge lane closing" Christie?
What a bunch of winners - on the one hand we have grand old (boys club) gasbags and on the other "big government" wide drive-by liberals who think they are still in People's republic of Berkeley.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 28 Jan 2014 03:48

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Please to read the first several pages at least:
https://ohiostatepress.org/Books/Comple ... ire/10.pdf

The early twentieth-century U.S. traveler Sydney Greeblie noted, apparently without irony, that on a map India "looked like the ponderous mil-bags of a cow holding the very living essence of Asia."

This got me thinking to let my imagination run as wild as Sydney Greeblie to think of how the USA map could be viewed for it's All American TFTA image. You may find this ironic that the map looks like the very essence of Amirkhan:

"A very obesse male with a limp member dangling. Better yet, it craves for the magic blue potion for ED to increase the (red) blood supply to sustain an ~~erection~~ election".

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 28 Jan 2014 06:06

The story so far:
0. The initiation.
1. The dictionary.
2. The White house takes lead in promoting the United States leadership in robotics.
3. The United States takes lead in high-technology -- haptics, robotics, and healthcare.
4. An editorial: the value of satire.
5. The Freedoms: Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain.

And to come:
6. The Law: In whom shall we place blind faith.
7. The Zeal: Where humans aim to imitate and excel upon sheep.
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16. The anniversary.

and, an anecdote for the young'uns, and a FAQ.

The Freedoms: Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain
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keywords: freedom, excellence, civics, separation of church and state, branches of government

(January 27, U-NSN staff volunteer; uncredited) As our president goes to church, every Sunday, to better justify his middle name we are reminded of a curious set of events. There was a young man. To say he was young, is right. To say he was a child, perhaps not, but even that is wrong only in the great American context. Like all young men, he was both productive and arrogant. Then, on January 11, 2013 he very foolishly went and died.

Now, for youth, this is somewhat of a tradition in america. Second only to to the other great tradition that provides the budgets of our religious institutions, who's names can not be invoked either. But it is more common in colored people. This young man had a melanin deficiency. Some say, he was one of the chosen people. But that is neither here, nor there.

And for additional unrelated context, we cite more evidence. Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain. For example, someone tried. He almost got through the first three letters, before the high priest was incensed. The actual tweets are image-archived somewhere, if someone can post them, U-NSN would be grateful.

Are these two incidents related, of course not. Why should we stretch our minds to make connections? They are just random events. And in any case, both times the civil society rose to new heights. The ACLU was on the phone to the media within minutes. Christopher Soghoian, a friend of Green's who was briefly enrolled in the same Hopkins doctoral program, is now the American Civil Liberties Union's principal technologist and senior policy analyst with its Project on Speech, Privacy and Technology. Soghoian said the incident could raise questions about the Applied Physics Laboratory and the amount of influence it has over other parts of the university. "Even if no one at the NSA picked up the phone, there may have been some self-censorship coming out of APL hoping to preserve their good working relationship with the NSA," Soghoian said.. The intellectual masterbation (2, 3, 4) was unprecedented. All respected outlets, TV, radio, you name it and they chimed in, unmindful of the consequences. People were practically sharpening their pitchforks -- this is a tradition in America for those not from here -- and out to get the high-priest.

Naturally, the high-priest soon apologized. "“Dear Matt… I write to apologize for any difficulty I caused you yesterday over the post on your blog,” wrote Douglas. “I realize now that I acted too quickly, on the basis of inadequate and – as it turns out – incorrect information.”. The civil society had won the day, hooray for democracy. You see, freedom still lives. Everything is benign.

And yet, on an anniversary of an event, friends of the young man will be dancing on his grave unmindful of the consequences. Or around his urn, not sure which is the case. Others have already taken paint-brushes, and colored the academic landscape red. Each looking to satisfy only their own ego and a need for publicity, an exercise in "freedom" that clearly still exists and in no way related to career progression, drug-induced or hormonal exuberance, or the mandatory 15 minutes of fame.

So U-NSN must also be able to take the name of the lord then? We try, "M…..", "Mu……", "Mph…..". It doesn't work. We need remedial therapy, or you can't really take the lord's name in vain. Or put any three letters in sequence? Had the high-priest really been defeated? Did the temples really show remorse. Or is the truth the casualty here? Therein, young padawan, lies the lesson:

A precedent (noun, earlier event or action): thou shalt not take the name of the lord in vain, or speak of him in unkind terms, or scrutinize his actions. For his retribution is swift, and you are but a tiny speck on this rock (flat, pizza shaped) around which the a lord-lit lamp shines only due to his grace (oh, and tied down your car engine too, they have a tendency to jump a hundred feet for no reason).

Editor's note 1: One wonders how a polytheist would deal with this commandment. For every name appears to be a lord's name, or of a king of lord, or the son of lord, or of the third cousin of the lord twice-removed. Perhaps, china has taken the right approach. Unless of course, you try the name buddha, and then you would be in the wrong place.

Editor's note 2: No, this is not meant to be coherent. Real events rarely are. And if the truth was so self-evident and visible, we would all still be single-cell organisms. At the end, the question must be, What the hell is he talking about?, or we have failed.

Hussain HankPsnky
U-NSN
Silicone Valley Wilds

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Jan 2014 07:37

times have changed, but the brutal attitude of law enforcement dating back to the days of the frontier and slavery have not. and all this has official backing.

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 28 Jan 2014 07:49

Clearly, Policeman Jackie Neal is so much masculine, he cant stop himself and neither will he allow any 19 year old girl to. It goes to show how strong and powerful American men are. Officers are always in control and they do it only to protect the constitution and bill of rights.
Thank you for your service, officer Jackie Neal
Rah Rah USA!!

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 28 Jan 2014 08:07

rgsrini wrote:
svenkat wrote:rgsrini saaar,
you are on a roll.

All credit goes to the American civilization, which is a shining beacon of hope to humanity. Without the advancement of western civilization and the breathtaking evolution of western mind, the entire humanity would have been condenmed to suffer in the hell, that we had created ourselves on Earth. Americans taught us how a strong judicial system can deliver justice on time. They demonstrated how nurturing children helps them to become leaders when they grow up. They even proved that empowering women is fundamental to the growth of the nation.

Here is an example that captures the essence of Judicial objectivism, psychosocial nourishment of children and women empowerment all rolled into one.

Moving story of human compassion in the US of A

My heart bleeds for thirdworld country like India, and I cry in silence hoping that humanity as a whole get inspired by this moving story of human compassion.

[Note: The thirdworld brain in me could not get the spelling of "psycho" correct in my first attempt, and I had to correct it]

I am depressed now. That thing was so sad to watch. I could never understand how white people find it funny to laugh at things like these when the victims are people of color. Their media, their diplomats and even so many common white people take delight in suffering of dark skinned people. I have lost count of how many times a white person has found the poverty and suffering of dark skinned people humorous.

When I watched this video, all I could see was human suffering beyond color and nationality. I guess this is what makes us Indians very different from the rest of the world. We just do not have it in us to mock and take delight in the suffering of others even if they display animosity towards us.

habal · Post by **habal** » 28 Jan 2014 08:12

ManjaM wrote:Clearly, Policeman Jackie Neal is so much masculine, he cant stop himself and neither will he allow any 19 year old girl to. It goes to show how strong and powerful American men are. Officers are always in control and they do it only to protect the constitution and bill of rights.
Thank you for your service, officer Jackie Neal
Rah Rah USA!!

Jackie Neal has far far more protein than the mali. Obviously he is healthier. And surely it's more natural for him to rape too. No sacred cows as far as he is concerned

OTH, those damn vegetarian Hindu Indian rapists. Still can't wrap my head around how they manage to rape ....

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 28 Jan 2014 08:35

Many ppl may not be aware that the Cavity Search has a long and hallowed historical place in American Federal Law Enforcement lore.

General Custer's version of today's Federal Marshals actually used to remove said "cavities" for visual inspection. See
LODGE POLE (WASHITA) MASSACRE (November, 1868): THE FAMILIES' STORIES for a general indication.

That does not quite say it in the explicit terms that I have found in other historical accounts.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 28 Jan 2014 09:25

Karan Dixit wrote:I am depressed now. That thing was so sad to watch. I could never understand how white people find it funny to laugh at things like these when the victims are people of color. Their media, their diplomats and even so many common white people take delight in suffering of dark skinned people. I have lost count of how many times a white person has found the poverty and suffering of dark skinned people humorous.

I don't think we should cast aspersion on the entire lot of Americans or whites in general. Americans, as far as I know, are very compassionate and go out of their way to help fellow human beings, all over the world. UK, for its part, continues to send aid to India every year, which the Indian government unfortunately end up wasting. US sends a lot of aid as well, the recent one being to Koodunkulam, if I am not mistaken.

The educated western mind has a natural tendency to respect others in the society. They do not treat someone poorly, just because they are from a lower social strata of the society. The children are taught to respect others from a very young age and it becomes part of them, as they grow old and become productive members of the society. That is why we hardly read about any abuse in the American society, except for some occassional-once-in-a-blue-moon occurance.

How dignity of labour in America reduces abuse overall

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 28 Jan 2014 09:37

rgsrini wrote:
Karan Dixit wrote:I am depressed now. That thing was so sad to watch. I could never understand how white people find it funny to laugh at things like these when the victims are people of color. Their media, their diplomats and even so many common white people take delight in suffering of dark skinned people. I have lost count of how many times a white person has found the poverty and suffering of dark skinned people humorous.
I don't think we should cast aspersion on the entire lot of Americans or whites in general. Americans, as far as I know, are very compassionate and go out of their way to help fellow human beings, all over the world. UK, for its part, continues to send aid to India every year, which the Indian government unfortunately end up wasting. US sends a lot of aid as well, if I am not mistaken.

The educated western mind has a natural tendency to respect others in the society. They do not treat someone poorly, just because they are from a lower social strata of the society. The children are taught to respect others from a very young age and it becomes part of them, as they grow old and become productive members of the society. That is why we hardly read about any abuse in the American society, except for some occassional-once-in-a-blue-moon occurance.

How dignity of labour in America reduces abuse overall

This thread is not for the faint hearts. There should be warning to take your Lexapro before entering the thread.

Every 2 minutes, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 28 Jan 2014 09:42

Many of you might've heard of the Trayvon Martin case where he was pursued and then shot by Zimmerman and then Zimmerman was let go due to a dubious "Stand your ground" law. Well here is someone who shot two guys who were on an adjoining property, scouting locations to build their new home and they were shot, no warning, by a man with a rifle. Guess what, the two people who were shot were black and the guy who shot them thought they were tresspassers and up to no good.
http://gawker.com/man-shoots-new-neighb ... 1509601587

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 28 Jan 2014 11:08

Is there any survey on the pacoUnits of proteins intake across the world? Some NGO would have done such a study in the third world countries to explain their status on the HDI scale.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 28 Jan 2014 11:37

http://www.rochesterhomepage.net/story/ ... ttdWpshzIQ

Upright police officers give free ride to black students when the bus is a bit late. a positive gesture.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 28 Jan 2014 11:40

Singha wrote:times have changed, but the brutal attitude of law enforcement dating back to the days of the frontier and slavery have not. and all this has official backing.

The problem in US society is the over-glorification of anyone in uniform, from army and police to fire fighters, by media and movie industry. Worse, the American judiciary connives to give law enforcement a carte blanche to do as they want with Americans. In India it is the opposite - judiciary takes upon itself to protect the citizens from police and regularly passes nasty comments about cops.

If you remove the wealth and glamour of US, it is actually a hell hole of broken families, mob-like behaviour with non-whites, and collapse of the social system (in the absence of familial and emotional bonding with other individuals, there is too much reliance on cold hard law to keep the society functioning). Compare that to Hindu society during Guptas when Chinese travelers reported a crime-free society where citizens used to keep their houses unlocked even while away. The difference is "dharma" -- a criss-cross network of duties and obligations towards each other that have to be honoured to keep the society in peace and harmony. Because of this, the society becomes a self-governing, self-policing system, without citizens being hounded at every step by overbearing police.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Jan 2014 12:30

Gus wrote:http://www.rochesterhomepage.net/story/ ... ttdWpshzIQ

Upright police officers give free ride to black students when the bus is a bit late. a positive gesture.

comment below that article
Chuck McCoy bpm • 2 months ago
When I was younger, I remember people relaxing when the police would show up because they expected them to show good judgment. When the cops show up now, people don't relax because they don't trust any cop to show good judgment about anything. The police are primarily concerned with establishing their authority and control of the area, and they escalate into violence rapidly if their absolute right to do whatever they please is challenged in any way. They're generally C- students who have trouble with anything requiring subtle reactions. Stacking steroids doesn't help with that. Screaming and intimidating are their go-to strategies for everything before proceeding to physical violence.

When I was younger, people gave the police information about what was going on. Except for people trying to get the cops to go after their competitors, I don't think that happens as much anymore.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jan 2014 14:46

Singha wrote:
Gus wrote:http://www.rochesterhomepage.net/story/ ... ttdWpshzIQ

Upright police officers give free ride to black students when the bus is a bit late. a positive gesture.
comment below that article
Chuck McCoy bpm • 2 months ago
When I was younger, I remember people relaxing when the police would show up because they expected them to show good judgment. When the cops show up now, people don't relax because they don't trust any cop to show good judgment about anything. The police are primarily concerned with establishing their authority and control of the area, and they escalate into violence rapidly if their absolute right to do whatever they please is challenged in any way. They're generally C- students who have trouble with anything requiring subtle reactions. Stacking steroids doesn't help with that. Screaming and intimidating are their go-to strategies for everything before proceeding to physical violence.

When I was younger, people gave the police information about what was going on. Except for people trying to get the cops to go after their competitors, I don't think that happens as much anymore.

I think these are rude and unnecessary comments about a Police officer doing his duty. Those three American boys were black and standing on the pavement. That is a crime. No doubt about it. Saala! Kaalu kya kar raha tha udhar? ~hainchoo*!

PakUSAtan. Here I come.

habal · Post by **habal** » 28 Jan 2014 15:09

Kalus are so much better than them vegetarian Indians. Atleast Kalus can be managed with our C- students .. we can shoot them, hit them, strip search them everyday and they do not complain. Then again whom will they complain to. Our judiciary ?

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 28 Jan 2014 18:50

Maybe people should know much more about how to face cops better who are trained to do SoP and avoid legal and hazardous situations. link - good news is nothing else happened including no drugs, no guns, no loud music, etcetera just first world SoP.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 28 Jan 2014 20:02

Xposted from US india strategy thread.

UlanBatori wrote:If they read the Constitution and try to understand the notion of
Separation of Church and State
they would learn to keep the Jeehaadists and the Croosaders from contaminating national policy. It's that simple.

UB, I don't agree with your insinuation that they don't understand the notion saar. In my opinion, one the best part of America is the separation of church from state. Even though the constitution of USA, does not explicitly mention the separation of Church from the state, it implicitly supports the idea and fundamental principle vigorously. All 3 branches of the government have cohesively implemented this esteemed ideal, this is what differentiates America from the rest of the world.

The are several legislations implemented at the state level to ensure that Government does not get involved in promoting religious doctrines.

Principle of religious liberty and separation of Church from State

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 28 Jan 2014 20:07

Wrongful convictions stats:
http://visual.ly/sad-stats-behind-wrongful-convictions

About 10,000 people in the United States may be wrongfully convicted of serious crimes each year, a new study suggests.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/ronhuff.htm

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 28 Jan 2014 20:29

rgsrini wrote:Xposted from US india strategy thread.
UB, I don't agree with your insinuation ... the best part of America is the separation of church from state. Even though the constitution of USA, does not explicitly mention the separation of Church from the state, it implicitly supports the idea and fundamental principle vigorously. All 3 branches of the government have cohesively implemented this esteemed ideal, this is what differentiates America from the rest of the world.
The are several legislations implemented at the state level to ensure that Government does not get involved in promoting religious doctrines.

Principle of religious liberty and separation of Church from State

As a Sinner, I seek to Repent.

So let me say again the Positive News:
THERE IS COMPLETE SEPARATION OF RELIGION AND STATE IN THE USA, AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. This is one great feature that separates the US of A from such heathen slums as India, where gay marriage has been ruled unconstitutional.

vic · Post by **vic** » 28 Jan 2014 20:46

COP ACCUSED OF SENDING NUDE PIC TO WOMAN WHO SOUGHT HELP

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cop-accused ... ught-help/

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 28 Jan 2014 20:53

UB, thanks for the repentence. "One Nation Under God" the USA stands behind the separation of church and state, because "In God we trust".

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 28 Jan 2014 20:59

Racism may cause African-American men to age faster

Being the victim of racism and internalizing racist beliefs may speed up the aging process, a new study suggests.

Research conducted on African-American men showed that those who experienced the greatest amounts of discrimination and showed the strongest negative attitudes against their own racial group had shorter telomere lengths, a sign of cellular aging.

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African-Americans are known to have a shorter life expectancy and have a higher chance of developing age-related chronic illnesses compared to white Americans.

Woman Sues Police After Losing an Arm to 'Police Brutality'
35 year-old mother of three claims her arm was amputated after police put cuffs on too tight, refused her treatment.

A woman violently arrested by police in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, is suing police there after she claims the rough treatment she received resulted in her losing an arm.

Amy Needham was arrested by five deputies after she failed to show up at a preliminary hearing on a charge that was eventually reduced to disorderly conduct, according to CBS Pittsburgh.

Her attorney says that the excessive force she received at the hands of her arresting officers, coupled with the refusal by staff at Allegheny County Jail to let her see a doctor after complaining of pains, resulted in his client suffering near-fatal injuries.

“Five deputy sheriffs from for one little girl. She has to go to the bathroom. She asked, ‘Can I go to the bathroom?’ They refused. They broke the door down and then they Tased her, grabbed her and they put her in a sheriff’s van. And I think the handcuffs were tight,” attorney Marvin Leibowitz related of the incident.

He said the tightness of the handcuffs resulted in her contracting compartment syndrome - excessive pressure which can cause serious damage to muscles and nerves. He says staff ignored 16 pleas for a doctor by his client, until she went into septic shock and was rushed to a hospital. Doctors had to perform emergency surgery to remove the arm to prevent her from dying from the infection.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jan 2014 21:09

vishvak wrote:Maybe people should know much more about how to face cops better who are trained to do SoP and avoid legal and hazardous situations. link - good news is nothing else happened including no drugs, no guns, no loud music, etcetera just first world SoP.

Thanks for that link.

My OT reaction here
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 9#p1585199

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 28 Jan 2014 21:16

America's dirty little secret - child abuse

In the past 10 years, an estimated 20,000 children in the United States have died from maltreatment by family members in what is supposed to be the safe refuge of their homes.

It is the worst record of child abuse deaths in the industrialized world.

It makes one cringe to read about a recent and all-too-common case of a mother who launched an attack on her own defenseless child.

A Delaware woman punched her 1-year-old daughter, then threw her down a set of stairs because she wouldn’t stop crying, ABC TV6 reported Monday.

The mother has been charged and the child is in hospital in stable condition, but similar incidents are disturbingly frequent in America.

In 2009, some 1,770 children were murdered by maltreatment across the US, the BBC reported.

And in the past 10 years 20,000 children have been killed in their own homes by family members, Child Help reported. That’s triple the number of Canada and 11 times the rate of Italy, per 100,000 population.

According to UNICEF, these chilling statistics put the United States in a tie with Mexico as having the worst child-abuse death rate among 29 industrialized countries, at 2.2 deaths per 100,000 children under age 15.

And Mother Jones reported in December that in the year since the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, 194 children have died by gunshot, most in their own home.

But the deaths are the end result of the abuse iceberg and based on the number of maltreatment cases, it could be a lot higher.

More than 750,000 children and youth are treated in US hospital emergencies as a result of assault each year, more than 85 every hour, and more than 3 million referrals for child maltreatment are received by state and local agencies, the Atlanta-based Centers of Disease Control and Prevention reported.

The BBC correctly headlined its 2011 report, “America’s child death shame.”

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 28 Jan 2014 21:26

^^^^

Besides the above child abuse rate:

Obama State of the Union speech to act on income inequality

This is positive news. Till.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25917009

......you read the last line: (Scroll down below the last graph)

The US has one of the highest income gaps in the developed world

A noobie pooch? Is the US of whatever a third world in the first world?

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 28 Jan 2014 21:33

Chicago archdiocese papers reveal decades of sexual abuse cover-up
January 21, 2014
Documents disclose information on 30 of the 65 priests the church believes were involved in sexual abuse

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 28 Jan 2014 21:51

rgsrini: I am

USA stands behind the separation of *** and ***

Are you SURE your mind is pure, birather? Standing behind something separated? That's illegal (except for the Istate Bolis) in 13 states!!

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 28 Jan 2014 22:15

Frankly I am appalled! Some Hindu nationalist posters here are trying to equate the great Christian state of United States with India??? India where gay marriage is illegal and 1,000,000 shock troops routinely machine gun millions of cute carnation wearing peachy bottomed flower children of freedom who try to innocently cross the barbarically fenced Kashmir border, to exchange Hallmark cards and seasons greetings with their oppressed Indian brothers and sisters??? Frankly now I am beyond appalled....I am outraged. I am writing to my senator to cut off all aid going from Idaho to India - that will bankrupt their economy and teach them not to mess with freedom!!

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 28 Jan 2014 23:13

Prasad wrote:Many of you might've heard of the Trayvon Martin case where he was pursued and then shot by Zimmerman and then Zimmerman was let go due to a dubious "Stand your ground" law. Well here is someone who shot two guys who were on an adjoining property, scouting locations to build their new home and they were shot, no warning, by a man with a rifle. Guess what, the two people who were shot were black and the guy who shot them thought they were tresspassers and up to no good.
http://gawker.com/man-shoots-new-neighb ... 1509601587

Here are the deceased, Garrick Hopkins and Carl Hopkins. It can be argued that these men fit the commonly accepted description of a certain kind of individual.

And here is the good Christian American Mr Rodney Bruce Black (snigger snort)

Now, if yall are trying to make some racial connection to this unfortunate incident where Mr Black, a white settler, put down a couple of black folks, then you are way out of line here. Let not jump to conclusions. US is in a post racial world where the color of one skin has no bearing on his state in life. There is no doubt that a jury of peers will do justice to the black folks.

Importantly, lets not lose sight of the main issue here, which is the failure on the part of the deceased to adequately arm themselves prior to venturing into a dangerous area. With adequate protective equipment, Kevlar BPJ, Helmets and an AR15, there is no doubt that the deceased could have inspected the shed on their property in a safer fashion.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jan 2014 23:17

SanjayC wrote:
Chicago archdiocese papers reveal decades of sexual abuse cover-up
January 21, 2014
Documents disclose information on 30 of the 65 priests the church believes were involved in sexual abuse

Looks like their motto was
"In God we Lust"

disha · Post by **disha** » 28 Jan 2014 23:23

rajanb wrote: The US has one of the highest income gaps in the developed world

A noobie pooch? Is the US of whatever a third world in the first world?

Nope. US is first world among third worlds. How dare you call the gr8 US of A a third world nation?

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 28 Jan 2014 23:25

UlanBatori wrote:rgsrini: I am
USA stands behind the separation of *** and ***
Are you SURE your mind is pure, birather? Standing behind something separated? That's illegal (except for the Istate Bolis) in 13 states!!

Saar... I know you are being tongue-in-cheek here. But it is an "open and shut" case that US practices separation.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 28 Jan 2014 23:40

Singha wrote:times have changed, but the brutal attitude of law enforcement dating back to the days of the frontier and slavery have not. and all this has official backing.

Guns with everyone do not help. And most people there believe that guns make them more safe, and not less. It's extreme individualism based thinking. "Who comes first 'me' or 'the group'?" - "me of course".