So who will win in the next general elections? The common united front that the opposition showed in the no-confidence motion is unlikely to last through the elections. It's particularly unlikely that the PPP and the PML(N) will agree to a power sharing agreement in the event of a hung assembly, because both parties have heirs-in-waiting. That means that either PTI or the Islamists will remain the swing vote and since Imran Khan has burned his bridges with the Islamists, the final arbritrer would be which among these two have more seats. Unlike the last election, when the PA cobbled together a coalition for Imran, he may be able to do better on his own in the next one, at least enough to become the joker in the pack.
A lot may depend on how Shahbaz Sharif manages to keep the senior leadership of the PML (N) from wanting to punish the PA for Nawaz's ouster. If he plays ball with the PA during his interim PM-ship, the PA may be inclined to put their finger on the scales in the next election to favor him over the PPP. In this effort, they may have the blessings of both the US (to keep Afghanistan contained) and China (to push CPEC forward).
We all know what the charsi wants to do once he gets the 2/3rd majority. He wants to junk the constitution, the parliamentary system and bring in the Presidential system with unlimited powers to lord over like Erdogan.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 04:17
by Vips
Anoop wrote:So who will win in the next general elections? The common united front that the opposition showed in the no-confidence motion is unlikely to last through the elections. It's particularly unlikely that the PPP and the PML(N) will agree to a power sharing agreement in the event of a hung assembly, because both parties have heirs-in-waiting. That means that either PTI or the Islamists will remain the swing vote and since Imran Khan has burned his bridges with the Islamists, the final arbritrer would be which among these two have more seats. Unlike the last election, when the PA cobbled together a coalition for Imran, he may be able to do better on his own in the next one, at least enough to become the joker in the pack.
A lot may depend on how Shahbaz Sharif manages to keep the senior leadership of the PML (N) from wanting to punish the PA for Nawaz's ouster. If he plays ball with the PA during his interim PM-ship, the PA may be inclined to put their finger on the scales in the next election to favor him over the PPP. In this effort, they may have the blessings of both the US (to keep Afghanistan contained) and China (to push CPEC forward).
A couple of "Sr Journalists" have commented that if the establishment remains neutral and does not manipulate behind the scenes then Imran will again win the next elections.
Given the difficult economic and financial conditions the about to be formed PNL-N/PPP govt with-in the next 15 months will face tough anti-incumbency mood if they are not able to get loans from IMF/World Bank to give substantial and immediate relief to the mango Abdul's and Ayesha's.
This is one huge advantage that Imran will have as public memory is very short.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 05:17
by g.sarkar
https://www.firstpost.com/world/general ... 29521.html General elections not possible before October this year: Pakistan Election Commission
Election Commission of Pakistan in its letter to Pakistan President Arif Alvi has contended that it requires four months to complete the delimitation in addition to organising general elections in 90 days
Asian News International, April 07, 2022
Islamabad: General elections in Pakistan are not possible before October this year as it needs seven months to ensure "free, fair, and transparent polls" in the country, said Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP).
According to the ECP spokesperson, the commission, in its letter to Pakistan President Arif Alvi, has contended that it requires four months to complete the delimitation in addition to organising general elections in 90 days, Radio Pakistan reported.
The ECP stated that keeping these reasons in view, elections are only possible in October this year.
Earlier on Tuesday, ECP said that it was prepared to hold general elections within three months, rejecting the reports which claimed that holding the electoral exercise was not possible in 90 days.
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Gautam
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 09:01
by Mort Walker
Everyone who’s been around here will know the reference.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 09:13
by KLNMurthy
Mort Walker wrote:
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Everyone who’s been around here will know the reference.
ADMINS!!!!
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 09:44
by Dilbu
My eyes… my eyes… this calls phor an instant ban.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 11:24
by g.sarkar
I just knew that someone was going to put Jalebi Madams picture without a decent warning. Et tu Mortji! You have contributed to the delinquency of minors in this forum.
Gautam
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 12:11
by Manish_P
I am just thankful she has no hope in hell of ever becoming the paki PM...
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 12:31
by Lisa
Just as well, else where are they going to find a door handle that size!
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 12:40
by Baikul
Since BR unilaterally and without warning decide to rape my eyes this Sunday afternoon, allow me return the compliment.
Just putting it out there one of the Bakistani constitutional provisions under debate (and which has Ms jalebi in a twist) is …Article 69.
You’re most welcome
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 13:45
by g.sarkar
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/94904 ... d-tomorrow New PM of Pakistan to be elected tomorrow
Aspirant candidates can file their nomination papers for the top slot till 2pm today
Nausheen Yusuf, April 10, 2022
ISLAMABAD: After Imran Khan was dismissed as the prime minister of Pakistan as a result of a successful no-trust motion by the joint Opposition, the National Assembly will elect a new head of the state tomorrow (Monday).
The NA is all set to hold the election of the new prime minister at 2pm. This session was earlier supposed to start at 11 am on Monday.
NA Secretariat said in a statement issued in this regard said that the aspirant candidates can file their nomination papers for the top slot till 2pm today (Sunday), which will be scrutinised till 3pm today.
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Gautam
Imran Khan tried to sack Army chief Gen Bajwa before ouster: Reports
According to various media reports, Khan made a botched attempt to replace Pakistan Army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa in order to bring someone more pliant and sympathetic to his idea of “foreign conspiracy” and cling on to power.
BBC Urdu reported that a helicopter carrying “two uninvited guests” landed in the Prime Minister’s House in the night and were escorted by Army soldiers to the interior of the palatial building. They two met alone for 45 minutes with Khan.
No details were officially provided about the meeting but it was not held in a cordial atmosphere, the report said.
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It further said that Khan was expecting that the helicopter would bring his “newly appointed official” whose arrival would put down all political disturbance.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 16:50
by Anoop
Pakistan has a history of generals appointed by PMs and Presidents, biting the hand that fed them. The reverse is unique. Indeed, Imran has ushered in Naya Pakistan.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 17:39
by Aditya_V
So when is Bajwa ' extension due.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 18:17
by Atmavik
Aditya_V wrote:So when is Bajwa ' extension due.
Oct .. if he gets another extension, might become the longest serving chief under a civilian
Gadi nasheen Qureshiwhas filled to be PM … wish lord Faw Faw gets a chance to be pm
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 18:37
by SRajesh
Will this be the end of Sheik Chilli
I am going miss him and his 'Paav kilo Bum' and kaffir attack only 'Bum'
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 18:40
by Bart S
Anoop wrote:Pakistan has a history of generals appointed by PMs and Presidents, biting the hand that fed them. The reverse is unique. Indeed, Imran has ushered in Naya Pakistan.
Well, there was Bhutto, but the generals had the last laugh there.
Also, Nawaz in a sense, but despite lacking Bhutto's elitist hubris and hot air, he is street smart and a survivor.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 19:05
by Manish_P
Rsatchi wrote:Will this be the end of Sheik Chilli
I am going miss him and his 'Paav kilo Bum' and kaffir attack only 'Bum'
Very unlikely. The overfed rat will jump ship, as he has in the past... jihad against the yindoo kafirs is an ongoing project after all.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 19:05
by Cyrano
Regime change successful in Pakistan, whoever comes next will be forced to start a war with India.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 19:13
by kit
Cyrano wrote:Regime change successful in Pakistan, whoever comes next will be forced to start a war with India.
with what exactly ?.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 19:18
by g.sarkar
https://www.dawn.com/news/1684344/pti-m ... d-chaudhry PTI MNAs to resign from National Assembly on Monday, says Fawad Chaudhry
April 10, 2022
Senior PTI leader and former information minister Fawad Chaudhry has announced that his party would resign en masse from the National Assembly tomorrow (Monday), a day after former prime minister Imran Khan lost his government via a successful no-confidence move.
The decision to resign, he said, was tied up with the acceptance of PML-N President Shehbaz Sharif's nomination papers for prime minister's elections, to which the PTI had raised objections. In a later development, the NA Secretariat rejected the objections and accepted Shehbaz's nomination.
Talking to the media in Islamabad with a host of other PTI leaders and officials, Chaudhry said a meeting of the PTI's central core executive committee (CEC) was held in Bani Gala with Imran Khan where "the whole situation was analysed".
He said the CEC recommended to Khan that the PTI should resign from the assemblies starting with the National Assembly. "If our objections on Shehbaz Sharif's [nomination] papers are not addressed then we will resign tomorrow," he said.
Elaborating on the PTI's decision to nominate its Vice Chairman Shah Mahmood Qureshi for the prime minister's position after a successful vote of no-confidence against Khan, Chaudhry said that contesting the election offered the party a way to challenge Shehbaz's nomination papers.
He said it was a "great injustice" that Shehbaz would be contesting the election for the prime minister on the same day he is to be indicted in a money laundering case.
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Gautam
So, no more Fasad and Sheik Chilli, and it is up to Shehbaz to establish Riyasat-e-Madina.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 19:40
by Anoop
Bart S wrote:
Well, there was Bhutto, but the generals had the last laugh there.
Also, Nawaz in a sense, but despite lacking Bhutto's elitist hubris and hot air, he is street smart and a survivor.
Bhutto won a landslide election in 1977, but was deposed and hanged by his hand-picked General Zia. His earlier loss in 1970 and refusal to accept the election results was backed by Yahya Khan too, so there was no daylight between them on this issue. Even earlier, it was Ayub Khan who sacked him from the Foreign Minister's post after the 1965 war.
Nawaz Sharif hand-picked Musharraf who exiled him. In his first term, his conflict with Ghulam Ishaq Khan resulted in the PA getting them both to resign. In his second term, although he forced Gen. Jehangir Karamat to resign, he hadn't owed his political career to him. He did get his revenge on Musharraf, but it was largely Musharraf's own mishandling of the Supreme Court that did him in.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 19:48
by Vips
Before Dimran finally relented there are some unconfirmed reports that Gen Bajwa and 2 other officials had taken Imran to a separate room told him his game was over and when he was still defiant slapped him
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 21:22
by Cyrano
kit wrote:
Cyrano wrote:Regime change successful in Pakistan, whoever comes next will be forced to start a war with India.
with what exactly ?.
Pakis have 10x cannon fodder than ukrainis, money and arms will flow from the sponsors who want to cut India to size. And the dollar can be stretched quite a bit by employing sleeper cells and sooside bombers.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 21:44
by Ambar
Why would someone wear sunglasses in a meeting inside a conference room unless one is trying to hide a black eye ?
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 21:48
by Pratyush
Or he is so high on cocaine that he cannot tolerate any light.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 21:56
by kit
Ambar wrote:Why would someone wear sunglasses in a meeting inside a conference room unless one is trying to hide a black eye ?
Pakis have 10x cannon fodder than ukrainis, money and arms will flow from the sponsors who want to cut India to size. And the dollar can be stretched quite a bit by employing sleeper cells and sooside bombers.
yes of course except i am waiting for what excuse the americans come with
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 23:25
by rsingh
Ya Allah kya din a gae hei. Madam jalabe/trolly has to decla6about her gender inclination in parliament. https://youtu.be/1_26vp77JXk
On Friday, a senior minister from his ruling government sent a message to an opposition leader that read: “Martial law or elections – your choice.”
It appeared to threaten the opposition with the ultimatum that they should agree to Khan’s demand of fresh elections or he would bring in Pakistan’s powerful military to take control, as has happened repeatedly in the country’s history.
Then Kaptaan wanted to declare
According to security officials, on the day of the no-confidence vote, which Khan’s party delayed by 14 hours, the prime minister had then attempted to sack the chief of the army in order to provoke the military into taking control and impose martial law.
“Imran Khan wanted to sack the army chief, but the forces received information about it and they thwarted his plan after they came to know about it,” said a security official on condition of anonymity. “Khan wanted to create a huge crisis to remain in power.”
But the umpire called a no-ball and forced him to retire hurt
Khan met with Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa, the army’s chief of staff, that night after trying to remove him earlier in the day. Bajwa told Khan to either step down or let the no-confidence vote go ahead, said Reuters.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 10 Apr 2022 23:54
by LakshmanPST
Mort Walker wrote:[img]jpg[/img]
Everyone who’s been around here will know the reference.
What about us new comers who do not know who she is...?
rsingh wrote:Ya Allah kya din a gae hei. Madam jalabe/trolly has to decla6about her gender inclination in parliament. https://youtu.be/1_26vp77JXk
Madame Jalebi did not disclose whether (s)he is trans-gender or had a sex change done as no female can be so ugly or grotesque looking.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 11 Apr 2022 01:31
by g.sarkar
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/pak- ... 220410.htm Pak Dy Speaker didn't resign, to chair Monday session
Utkarsh Mishra, April 10, 2022
Refuting the news of the resignation of Pakistan's Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri, the National Assembly Secretariat on Sunday clarified that Suri did not resign from his office, reported local media adding that he will chair the crucial National Assembly on Monday for the election of the new prime minister of Pakistan.
Refuting the news of the resignation of Pakistan's Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri, the National Assembly Secretariat on Sunday clarified that Suri did not resign from his office, reported local media adding that he will chair the crucial National Assembly on Monday for the election of the new prime minister of Pakistan.
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Gautam
I am not sure why pious Pakistanis are allowing an Ahmedi like Bajwa to remove Pious believer like Imran from power. They should rise up!!
With you always Kaptaan!!
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 11 Apr 2022 02:21
by g.sarkar
Pakistan Politics: Imran Khan जाते-जाते क्या कर गए? (BBC Hindi)
Gautam
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 11 Apr 2022 02:26
by Ambar
All youthias and mard-e-momeens need to hit the streets ! It is now or never ! We either need kaptaan back in the PM seat or there needs to be a bloody civil war in pakistan ! Calling all pakistani mard-e-musalmaans especially in the middle east, show your solidarity with Imran, block Dubai, block Riyadh, block Doha, and at home block Islamabad , Karachi and Pindi from all sides ! Stay niazi stay niazi !
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Posted: 11 Apr 2022 02:40
by Atmavik
proteting in Dubai is a dangerous game.. some of our Anna supporters found it out the hard way.