Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 2011

[Singha]

dawn.com

PESHAWAR: A suicide car bomb struck Pakistani police on Thursday, killing 22 people in the second attack in as many days in the northwest as the Taliban vow to avenge the US killing of Osama bin Laden.

“It was a car suicide attack targeting a city police station. The bomber blew up the car at a checkpoint close to the police station,” said police deputy inspector general Masood Khan Afridi.

Regional police spokesman Fazal Naeem said, “(The bomber) wanted to blow up the city police station but he blew up the car close to the barrier outside the station.” Police officials said 22 people were killed and 38 others wounded.

“Most of those killed in the attack are policemen and the death toll may rise, because there are offices and residences of senior police officials and the local administration near the attack site,” said Naeem.

The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the suicide car bombing, with a spokesman saying it was carried out to avenge the death of Osama bin Laden.

“We accept responsibility for this attack. This was a small attack to avenge Osama’s martyrdom,” spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location.

“Soon you will see bigger attacks. Revenge for Osama can’t be satisfied just with small attacks,” he said.

[Singha]

per geo tv the blast created a crater 8 ft deep. so sounds like a 50-100kg type bomb , not the blockbuster device that created that moon sized hole infront of rawalpindi marriott.

friday is tomorrow ....

[Gagan]

Well it is jumme-raat todin.

[Prem]

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Anishns, What is the guy saying a short summary is nice.

The PAF guy is saying that: "We should have shot down American helicopters. It is okay to sacrifice 1-2 F-16s in this process. Such sacrifices have to be made for the qaum."

They must have tried but engine suddenly refused to roar as per Massa's E instructions.

[Altair]

mehran attackers are the classmates of 26/11. Means there exists a shadow force which at times can be defined as non-state, rogue or even ISI. So when Pasha said a "rehersal" is done, he was referring to this force.

I am seriously thinking that tossing up P3-C has more to do than just being replaceable. This mehran episode was supposed to happen anyway. OBL gave them a wonderful opportunity and they cashed in. But why P3?

any ISI gain is US's loss. What has US lost in these P3?

I agree with your assessment that Mehran attackers were classmates of 26/11 attackers. They are well trained terrorists directly under someone like Musharraf.Pasha was telling the truth that they rehearsed Indian targets. If there is going to be an attack on India by their classmates it would be pretty similar.
P3C were replaceable but they attached some significance to it. If it was destroyed for a purpose it must be to coverup something. Two possibilities arise
1.They need some component of P3C-Orion which they need for the next attack.
2. Chinese needed that component and was given to them in exchange for something else.

2 is possible and presence of Chinese supports this. Secondly, It is ISI's gain and America's loss. The less collateral damage also supports this theory. They could have destroyed all four since they were parked near by. If I was Chinese and I needed an important american component I would ask for two, I would not ask for one. Three or four are better but Pakistan do need Orions to defend against India. To reverse engineer something you need at-least two. It helps if you screw up something.Kind of backup.

[Lalmohan]

the al-jabbars were destroyed because they were the most prominent aircraft in the area, blowing up any aircraft was one of the objectives. blowing up US aircraft probably seen as a bonus

[CRamS]

IMO - A brilliant write-up and belongs to the archives of BR:
http://www.npr.org/2011/05/26/136674004 ... -the-nukes

Good article, and of course, as a BR veteran, this thesis is nothing new to me. But as I was clicking that link, given that it was on NPR, I was hoping it was written by one of those DC heavyweights that RudraJi listed. But written by an SDRE, I doubt this will carry any weight beyond a few casual skim through of the piece.

There seems to be some kind of "war of attrition" if you will in the minds of the heavy duty "South Asia" policy wonks in DC (and that includes see-I-yaa, Pentagon, think tanks, state dept etc) in that like Kapil Komidreddy, they know the truth about TSP, but having lived kushily for decades with the India TSP equal equal formulation that has served US imperial interests handsomely, any reversal of that policy now to effectively redress what ails TSP, means a sort of cognitive dissonance, a kind of disruptive thinking leads to fear of the unknown: Oh my goodness, if we do this, this, and that to TSP, what kind of advantage will those bloody smelly SDREs take, and will that create a new set of headaches for US?

Thats precisely what I sense from what Economist rag, New Yorker tabloid, Financial Times bigots, Fair duckling etc are pontificating. They point out the faults of TSP very precisely and very accurately, namely, what an evil abomination it is, TSP will make USA’s other bad guys, Iran Norh Korea, Syria, Libya etc look like choir boys. And then true to their indoctrinated, ossified thinking, somehow, they bring in India, and need to either punish India, do the equal equal (India and US are getting too close and that makes so so poor Paki feel paranoid and thats why so many Pakis are pigLeTs, the India US civilian nuke deal was baaad and that’s why TSP is building more nukes etc etc) or for India to appease TSP (hand over Kashmir) as the final cure for what ails TSP. Lets see how long this war of attrition in their minds goes on, and what the final denouement will be.

[shiv]

26/11 attackers, Mehran attackesr and SSG are all students of the same guru - the Pakistan army.

The Mehran attackers were incompetent bums if the found 4 Orions on the tarmac an destroyed 2. If Orions are to be destroyed it can be done with far less fanfare and less reason to be suspicious. Orions are a high value item and it is not as if something inside was more important and the plane was a shell. On BRF I would call that statement sheer ignorance. A plane like the Orion is a huge asset. Any equipment in the Orion would be useless trash without the platform - just like your brain and eyes would be rotten meat without your body.

Please folks the conspiracy theories about the Orions are too far fetched. We have been celebrating the IED Mubaraks of the Taliban against the Paki armed forces on this thread. How come one more of that genre is being attributed to far fetched causes. A few men entered, did as much damage as they could and then scooted. That's it.

Why did Kasab and co go to Mumbai hotels and public places? Why not the port and other high value targets? They went to places with low security. PNS Mehran had low security. That is pretty clear.

[anmol]

An emotional call for something to be done to "Lal Pili Topi Waley Maskharey"

Yeh Jo "Baloongre" Chodey Gai hai na, khud chup jatey haip.
Voh Lal Pili Topi Waley Mashkharey Jinko Behla Phusla Ke Apko Pagal Khaney Le Jana Chahiyeh kisi tarah, "Teeka" Lagwana Chaihiyeh.
Phir Zansiron Se Bandh Do, Mazaaak Nahin Kar Raha Hum Main...

Translation :- Those buffoon who wear red yellow caps, should be talked into joining mental asylum, given shots for rabies and then locked down with chains.

[Altair]

Orions are a high value item and it is not as if something inside was more important and the plane was a shell. On BRF I would call that statement sheer ignorance. A plane like the Orion is a huge asset. Any equipment in the Orion would be useless trash without the platform - just like your brain and eyes would be rotten meat without your body.

Sirjee
Please remember the Hainan Island incident.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident
After reading this,If you still think that it is a conspiracy theory I would drop it.
Altair

[Rangudu]

CRS,

People like Kapil Komireddy are very valuable because saying the truth about TSP repeatedly and in places where it will be heard is the only way to shape opinion. It is slow but events like Osama killing will reinforce this message.

If you talk to ANY US soldier who has served in Afghanistan he will tell you things about TSP that even BR jingos will shy from.

Slow, frustrating but it is happening.

[Gagan]

Err,
Completely OT.
But has anyone noticed that the post heading of each post reads"

Post subject: Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

It reads 201
Instead of 2011.

[saip]

Any equipment in the Orion would be useless trash without the platform - just like your brain and eyes would be rotten meat without your body.

Not so, if you were to believe spy movies! Eye from a dead body can be used to open doors!

[anupmisra]

Tillakaratne Dilshan vows never to play cricket in Pakistan again

Tillakaratne Dilshan, who leads Sri Lanka for the first time against England in Cardif on Thursdayf, has followed up Sri Lanka Cricket's refusal to tour Pakistan in October by vowing that he will never play cricket again in the country.

Surely Dilshan is a Raa agent. He has been bought by IPL which is funded by Raa. All Indian players in IPL are Raa agents and they have managed to convert Dilshan and other SL players to their way of thinking by paying them money in US$ and showing them naked dancing girls. Thanks be to ZMH (pbuh) that no pa'astani player agreed to play in IPL and never will for the next 1000 years. As of now, no pure of heart pa'astani player will play in SLPL. Paki Sew-Virginity has therefore been left intact and saved for the next generation. Pa'satan Pain in Da Bad.

[anupmisra]

Err,
Completely OT.
But has anyone noticed that the post heading of each post reads"

Post subject: Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

It reads 201
Instead of 2011.

Kufr. That is the year pa'astan became a thought in the minds of the righteous people of Arabia. A seed was germinated.

[saip]

Not a peep from defndumb forum about the suicide attack that killed over 25 and counting. But the Mehran attack was covered within minutes. What does it tell us? Pakis dont give a damn about ordinary abduls getting 72 virgins but any one from their useless military suffering a little injury to their finger it would be covered as if there is no tomorrow. All about H&D

[anupmisra]

Another sporting tournament that will yearn (nay, dying) for pa'satani participation.Kabaddi.

[Neela]

CRS,

People like Kapil Komireddy are very valuable because saying the truth about TSP repeatedly and in places where it will be heard is the only way to shape opinion. It is slow but events like Osama killing will reinforce this message.

If you talk to ANY US soldier who has served in Afghanistan he will tell you things about TSP that even BR jingos will shy from.

Slow, frustrating but it is happening.

Incidentally, I did hear this from a American who served in Afghanistan.
He words went something like this.

Oh please don't even go to that topic. We would arrest some after a pitched gun battle and hand over the police. WE even arrested an ISI Major. But lo and behold, they would mysteriously reappear in a few months. We would have lost a soldier and someone would have lost a limb to get this guy and to see him again, simply made our stomachs turn. ISI / Taliban hand in glove for sure.

[abhijitm]

From Yawn, TTP

“We accept responsibility for this attack. This was a small attack to avenge Osama’s martyrdom,” spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location.

“Soon you will see bigger attacks. Revenge for Osama can’t be satisfied just with small attacks,” he said.

mashallah, mia but why are you demonstrating that in Peshawar? please go to pakistan and indulge yourself.

[kumarn]

I must admit, just as the yanks had promised us before we signed the nuclear deal, the stage 3 is well on its way. It seems they are going to go through with it this time.

What is the promised stage 3, Sir?

[vanand]

Is there a civil engineer here? There is some construction activity in la la land that I want an opinion on.

Intense building activity on at Quetta weapons storage depot - one of the sites suspected to hold nuclear weapons. BRFites might want to have a dekko at this area and try to identify locations which seem to be much better protected (extra boundary rings etc) even when they are located inside the base.

Sure the roof less buildings are for protect some thing
I had history of the particular sight the whole compound built with in a year!!
This one 5th of 2009
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/48117922.jpg/

And in present 6th of 2010 image
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/27171771.jpg/
we can see under ground bunker (marked in blue) just north of that compound and can any one suggest what that marked in red. sure they are not gardens they might be vents or the blast doors for silo

[anishns]

Bhailog what is this Obama-Lugar act as discussed in the 3rd video?
Is that really some kind of an initiative or hot air coming out from the motorhams musharraf after consuming too much pindi-chana?

If there is indeed such kind of an act...I wonder what the payback is going to be?

[shyamd]

SSS scoop on the Mehran. First Part in a 2 part series. This article does make sense to me. Obiously striking US targets in Karachi is a big no no for the establishment as US would put more pressure on Pak to cooperate etc.

Al-Qaeda had warned of Pakistan strike

By Syed Saleem Shahzad

This is the first article in a two-part report.

ISLAMABAD - Al-Qaeda carried out the brazen attack on PNS Mehran naval air station in Karachi on May 22 after talks failed between the navy and al-Qaeda over the release of naval officials arrested on suspicion of al-Qaeda links, an Asia Times Online investigation reveals.

Pakistani security forces battled for 15 hours to clear the naval base after it had been stormed by a handful of well-armed militants.

At least 10 people were killed and two United States-made P3-C Orion surveillance and anti-submarine aircraft worth US$36 million each were destroyed before some of the attackers escaped through a cordon of thousands of armed forces.

An official statement placed the number of militants at six, with four killed and two escaping. Unofficial sources, though, claim there were 10 militants with six getting free. Asia Times Online contacts confirm that the attackers were from Ilyas Kashmiri's 313 Brigade, the operational arm of al-Qaeda.

Three attacks on navy buses in which at least nine people were killed last month were warning shots for navy officials to accept al-Qaeda's demands over the detained suspects.

The May 2 killing in Pakistan of Osama bin Laden spurred al-Qaeda groups into developing a consensus for the attack in Karachi, in part as revenge for the death of their leader and also to deal a blow to Pakistan's surveillance capacity against the Indian navy.

The deeper underlying motive, though, was a reaction to massive internal crackdowns on al-Qaeda affiliates within the navy.

Volcano of militancy
Several weeks ago, naval intelligence traced an al-Qaeda cell operating inside several navy bases in Karachi, the country's largest city and key port.

"Islamic sentiments are common in the armed forces," a senior navy official told Asia Times Online on the condition of anonymity as he is not authorized to speak to the media.

"We never felt threatened by that. All armed forces around the world, whether American, British or Indian, take some inspiration from religion to motivate their cadre against the enemy. Pakistan came into existence on the two-nation theory that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations and therefore no one can separate Islam and Islamic sentiment from the armed forces of Pakistan," the official said.

"Nonetheless, we observed an uneasy grouping on different naval bases in Karachi. While nobody can obstruct armed forces personnel for rendering religious rituals or studying Islam, the grouping [we observed] was against the discipline of the armed forces. That was the beginning of an intelligence operation in the navy to check for unscrupulous activities."

The official explained the grouping was against the leadership of the armed forces and opposed to its nexus with the United States against Islamic militancy. When some messages were intercepted hinting at attacks on visiting American officials, intelligence had good reason to take action and after careful evaluation at least 10 people - mostly from the lower cadre - were arrested in a series of operations.

"That was the beginning of huge trouble," the official said.

Those arrested were held in a naval intelligence office behind the chief minister's residence in Karachi, but before proper interrogation could begin, the in-charge of the investigation received direct threats from militants who made it clear they knew where the men were being detained.

The detainees were promptly moved to a safer location, but the threats continued. Officials involved in the case believe the militants feared interrogation would lead to the arrest of more of their loyalists in the navy. The militants therefore made it clear that if those detained were not released, naval installations would be attacked.

It was clear the militants were receiving good inside information as they always knew where the suspects were being detained, indicating sizeable al-Qaeda infiltration within the navy's ranks. A senior-level naval conference was called at which an intelligence official insisted that the matter be handled with great care, otherwise the consequences could be disastrous. Everybody present agreed, and it was decided to open a line of communication with al-Qaeda.

Abdul Samad Mansoori, a former student union activist and now part of 313 brigade, who originally hailed from Karachi but now lives in the North Waziristan tribal area was approached and talks begun. Al-Qaeda demanded the immediate release of the officials without further interrogation. This was rejected.

The detainees were allowed to speak to their families and were well treated, but officials were desperate to interrogate them fully to get an idea of the strength of al-Qaeda's penetration. The militants were told that once interrogation was completed, the men would be discharged from the service and freed.

Al-Qaeda rejected these terms and expressed its displeasure with the attacks on the navy buses in April.

These incidents pointed to more than the one al-Qaeda cell intelligence had tracked in the navy. The fear now was that if the problem was not addressed, North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) supply lines could face a new threat. NATO convoys are routinely attacked once they begin the journey from Karachi to Afghanistan; now they could be at risk in Karachi port. Americans who often visit naval facilities in the city would also be in danger.

Therefore, another crackdown was conducted and more people were arrested. Those seized had different ethnic backgrounds. One naval commando came from South Waziristan's Mehsud tribe and was believed to have received direct instructions from Hakeemullah Mehsud, the chief of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (Pakistan Taliban). Others were from Punjab province and Karachi, the capital of Sindh province.

After Bin Laden was killed by American Navy Seals in Abbottabad, 60 kilometers north of Islamabad, militants decided the time was ripe for major action.

Within a week, insiders at PNS Mehran provided maps, pictures of different exit and entry routes taken in daylight and at night, the location of hangers and details of likely reaction from external security forces.

As a result, the militants were able to enter the heavily guarded facility where one group targeted the aircraft, a second group took on the first strike force and a third finally escaped with the others providing covering fire. Those who stayed behind were killed.

Next: Recruitment and training of militants

Syed Saleem Shahzad is Asia Times Online's Pakistan Bureau Chief and author of Inside al-Qaeda and the Taliban: Beyond Bin Laden and 9/11 published by Pluto Press, UK. He can be reached at [email protected]

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[archan]

Not a peep from defndumb forum about the suicide attack that killed over 25 and counting. But the Mehran attack was covered within minutes. What does it tell us? Pakis dont give a damn about ordinary abduls getting 72 virgins but any one from their useless military suffering a little injury to their finger it would be covered as if there is no tomorrow. All about H&D

The denizens probably are mostly the kids of military personnel sitting in their cozy apartments in londonistan etc. and doing their virtual chest thumping. They need something to feel better after all. The aam paki? the not-fair, not-tall, not-English speaking, the not-cool variety? bah, who cares!

[Singha]

colombian drug cartels have long used semi-submersible boats to flit around carrying drugs in central america and to the US
http://www.oobject.com/category/drug-sm ... ubmarines/

they even build a proper little 100ft fully submersible (30ft) sub thats recently caught
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2 ... z1E2zlvDq7

the pakis have a long history with italian midget subs and the SSG-N jihadis have no lack of 26/11 volunteers.

methinks building a few such boats to put fwd the "non state actor" like and sending in their squads could be the next big attack...if it can carry 2-4t of drugs it sure can carry that much plastic explosives too...and enough guns, jihadis and ammo to fight for days....

a jihadi trawler could tow one such semi-submersible to say 200km from mumbai and release it for the final run just as dawn is breaking...they cover 200km in the day and land at dusk...no need to bother with hijacking a indian fishing trawler and the chance someone might get a warning off ...

[KLNMurthy]

Not a peep from defndumb forum about the suicide attack that killed over 25 and counting. But the Mehran attack was covered within minutes. What does it tell us? Pakis dont give a damn about ordinary abduls getting 72 virgins but any one from their useless military suffering a little injury to their finger it would be covered as if there is no tomorrow. All about H&D

The denizens probably are mostly the kids of military personnel sitting in their cozy apartments in londonistan etc. and doing their virtual chest thumping. They need something to feel better after all. The aam paki? the not-fair, not-tall, not-English speaking, the not-cool variety? bah, who cares!

From the SSS report it looks like Mehran is a case of RAPE class being subdued and sidelined by the truly pure Islamist revolutionaries, a la Qadrification of Taseer. That explains the RAPE baccha log's angst.

[aditya]

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/why-a ... 110526.htm

HardVaniji talked to Pranabji and Anthonyji...

"I talked to Pranabji and Antony and told them that we should think about the attack seriously. The situation is really serious. It does not only concern Pakistan. It is a matter of concern for India as well as several other Asian countries," Advani said on the sidelines of a function at his residence.

He said the attack also raised questions on whether "terrorist elements like Al Qaeda and Taliban were trying to make Pakistan a jihadi state."

What more is needed for Al Qaeeda and Talib to succeed in the endeavour of making Pakistan jihadi state?

For all the HardTalk about "pro-active approach", HardVaniji seems to have become somewhat MulayamVichar...

[Muppalla]

The hits in Peshawar are not interesting any more. As long as the hits are away from Punjab, Isloo and Pindi there is no real big deal even if there are 100 or more deaths. At this rate there will be no buildings left in Peshawar.

[disha]

SSS scoop on the Mehran. First Part in a 2 part series. This article does make sense to me. Obiously striking US targets in Karachi is a big no no for the establishment as US would put more pressure on Pak to cooperate etc.

Al-Qaeda had warned of Pakistan strike

[/quote]

To me, I think the picture falls in place like this:

1. Al Queda (TTP/Pakjabi Taliban and everything hue of green grouped under the umbrella term) is looking to buid a Navy. If LTTE can build a navy and an air force, what stops from Al Queda to build one?

2. The P3C Orions were to be used to monitor AQ Types and AQ Wannabes. This is so that they do not carry a sea-borne attack on the US-NATO Supply line.

2a. Hence the P3C Onions targetted by the AQ Types.

3. The Bakis in their tactical brilliance were planning to use them mostly against India., and hence the following:

3a. US Supplied P3C Orions so that item# 2 can be carried out. Item# 3 was an intangible against India creating any flare ups
3b. Hence the immediate response from Pakis for two more and nary a pipsqueak from US

In the grand strategy of things:

1. Al Queda and its green rainbow affiliates wants to own Pakistan.
a. Sudan etc is too small. Afghanistan does not have the infrastructure and the "fertility" to sustain Al-Queda types (US/NATO or anybody can come over and create bad circumstances for them)

b. Pakistan has the "fertility"., sizeable population ready to die as cannon fodder, already inculcated into jeehadi factions and factories., enough infrastructure and industry to provide arms and to top it, the nuke.

2. Baki Army is loosing control. PN is suppossedly the least jehadized (based on number of personell and lower down the armed caste order)., and PN was trying to assert control back., given the PNS Mehran attack - PN has lost control.

2a. What would indicate that PAF and PA has lost control?

3. When is the coming out party by the Jehadis who will own the armed forces which own the country?

3a. I guess the coming out party will be when Kayani will be hanging from a lamp post.

4. There are several pretenders to the throne., but Mullah Omar and Illyas Kashmiri are in the running., Hafiz Sayeed types are sarkari ghulams and will not think twice to switch sides to be in the green* court.

* Green here means an Islamic Sharia version.

Added later:

I was searching on the pattern for targetting the police stations. Taking out the police will mean that the rule of law (or whatever remains of it in Bakistan) is taken out. Basically, for the awam - the taliban becomes the rule of law. This is basically afghanistan happening in pakistan at a much larger and slower scale. Further, it is difficult to get rid of taliban from pakistan than from afghanistan. The nukes offer that protection and hence the alarm bells. The jehadis almost seem to have the nuke. And they will not use it immediately, they will consolidate their hold first. The world is in for a great nuclear blackmail and hence the muted response from USofA., since we do not know how to deal with this monster.

[disha]

From the SSS report it looks like Mehran is a case of RAPE class being subdued and sidelined by the truly pure Islamist revolutionaries, a la Qadrification of Taseer. That explains the RAPE baccha log's angst.

Reached the same conclusion as above bolded part.

[harbans]

If Advani is not aware what the Taliban and AQ are after i dunno which world he is in. Advani has always possessed and displayed very crass low and superficial thinking throughout. These octagenarians should retire completely.

[asgkhan]

mind boggling to read some of the conspiracy theories peddled here under the guise of analytical thinking.

[Prasad]

colombian drug cartels have long used semi-submersible boats to flit around carrying drugs in central america and to the US
....
a jihadi trawler could tow one such semi-submersible to say 200km from mumbai and release it for the final run just as dawn is breaking...they cover 200km in the day and land at dusk...no need to bother with hijacking a indian fishing trawler and the chance someone might get a warning off ...

Though given their navigating abilities, from 200kms off bombays coast, they might as well end up in Maldives!

[Gagan]

And in present 6th of 2010 image
we can see under ground bunker (marked in blue) just north of that compound and can any one suggest what that marked in red. sure they are not gardens they might be vents or the blast doors for silo

Vanand-ji,
That seems to be a 6 bunker secure location holding precious items inside.
Notice that there is a big sand wall around these, and the bunkers are embedded in the earth, with the doors leading outside.


Now on this base, there are at least two other locations apart from this (that makes it 3) where they might be keeping precious items.
In addition there are two distinct construction areas, one that I have outlined earlier, and another in the north-western corner of the compound where an underground bunker seems to be under construction.

[Shaashtanga]

Hafiz Saeed's latest interview aired today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExGwneSompI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvp5W1vrLz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHS65pvvy1U

Snippets...

I've been hearing on Indian channels that they want to launch an Abbotabad like operation to kill me, but I would suggest them to sort it out legally in any international court.
---
I've always condemned suicide attacks in Muslim lands.
---
There is no terrorism in Islam. Terrorists hide in the mountains, we're present in every street of Pakistan.
---
America should justify the Abbotabad operation in an international court.
---
UN resolutions on Kashmir have not been implemented since 1948, but sanctions against Jamaat-ud-Dawaa came into effect instantly.
---
Allah will punish Ajmal Kasab if he did something wrong.

Not sure now many of you watched this Hafiz piglet interview but this pig seems shit scared and every-time the host (luckman) says "Ïndia to aapke khilaf Osama jaisa action lena chahta hai" the pig gets even

more defensive (aankehin jhuki hui hain / pair kaanp rage in). Before i watched this interview I thought the pig would be "defiant" i.e. something on the lines that India can't do anything and I am safe

where I am and India is not US etcetera etcetera but he was towing a completely different line that I am ready to face India in any court of "law" (even if it is international)..... This interview will be a

major KLPD to JuD & LeT pigs cadre if they watch how Saeed saab is browning his shalwar on national tv (or maybe they wont understand the body language that implies G**nd F**ti ka alam)...

ye teri aankehin jhuki jhuki,
ye tera pair hila hila,
badi kismat wala hai wo,
kaam tamam tera jisne kiya.

[svinayak]

quote A Arun"

Hafiz Saeed's latest interview aired today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExGwneSompI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvp5W1vrLz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHS65pvvy1U

Snippets...

I've been hearing on Indian channels that they want to launch an Abbotabad like operation to kill me, but I would suggest them to sort it out legally in any international court.
---
I've always condemned suicide attacks in Muslim lands.
---
Not sure now many of you watched this Hafiz piglet interview but this pig seems shit scared and every-time the host (luckman) says "Ïndia to aapke khilaf Osama jaisa action lena chahta hai" the pig gets even

Thats is not Hafiz Saeed but an imposter. The real one uses a walking stick and older.

This is a pretend interview to get some dialogue

[svinayak]

mind boggling to read some of the conspiracy theories peddled here under the guise of analytical thinking.

Which ones. I want to understand it better

[disha]

mind boggling to read some of the conspiracy theories peddled here under the guise of analytical thinking.

Do you have a better theory? Note that @40 "persons" are dead and the week is not over yet., major naval base has been attacked to the core and atleast @300 million USD worth of property has been irretreivably lost, and aam-abdul has no idea who runs the law in peshawar. Can you explain to us better?

[Mahendra]

^Jooish conspiracy

[Mahendra]

I agree with Acharya, the person giving the interview isn't the original Hafiz Saeed. It must be some cheap photo-copy