Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Dec 2011 09:18

Is not Safed the sign of Paki Sauverginity on Du-randi Line ?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Dec 2011 09:19

That panel discussion is hilarious and interesting. My notes -

1. US is trying to develop a selective 'deep state' in the place of current deep state.
2. The so-called Kiya-nahi whisperer, admiral Mullah, himself got disillusioned by Kiyanahi's duplicity.
3. The pakis always try to find a way to distance their bad apples. If jihadis cannot be covered, they become non-state actors. Then they call them rogue elements. Then it is ISI the bad apple. Then the entire army is bad. Then mullahs are bad. Then the politicians are bad. Then the middle class... And the liberal force always try to associate with the rest, calling them the silent majority. Per this logic TSP can be labelled only when the entire 200+ million paki population commit a mass terror sooside. A note to the people who try to support such nonsense.
4. Even the so-called liberal paki didn't like when CF suggested a military defeat for TSPA.
5. Even the so-called liberal doesn't want to be separated from Pakistan in a 1971 replay, even if it means separation of jihadi army from a section of society (be it Baluchistan or whatever).
6. Even the so-called liberal want to liberate Cashmere but didn't suggest that pakis evacuate from PoK and let PoK decide what it wants to do.
7. The USA still doesn't want to fix the problem. It nearly want to make Pakistan an India problem.
8. China may not come to Paki rescue as long as india limits it's paki beating to TSPA. However it will be more than happy to support paki monster if india tries to occupy it. Supporting a proxy war is cheap. Moreover a overt destruction of TSPA will provide china willing nonstate actors. The best strategy for india is to flatten a ISI headquarter of Army containment using special-Brahmastra in the event of a paki terror attack.
9. A paki terror attack in india is imminent before 2014.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Dec 2011 09:45

Another Tiger Niazi ,Abb ki Baar maar ke dekh ad infinitum
Troops free to hit back in future: Kayani

ISLAMABAD: Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani upped the ante in the standoff with the United States by telling his troops on Thursday that aggressors would not be able to evade a crushing retaliation in future. Where he vowed to respond to any future ‘aggression’ by United States and Nato troops based in Afghanistan with ‘full force’ regardless of its consequences, he also permitted the troops to respond to any attack without waiting for directions from the command.“Be assured that we will not let the aggressor walk away easily,” the army chief said in a message for the troops and added that he had “clearly directed that any act of aggression will be responded with full force, regardless of the cost and consequences”.The message, text of which was shared with Dawn by a source and confirmed by an ISPR official, was specially drafted to deal with the gloom in the ranks after Saturday’s Nato air strikes on border posts.Paying tributes to the 24 soldiers who were killed in the incident, Gen Kayani said he was proud of his men who responded with all resources at their disposal, including artillery. “We all salute the courage displayed by brave officers and men of 7 AK Regiment.”He believed that the attack could have been retaliated effectively had the communications network not broken down. “Timely decision could not be taken due to breakdown of communication with the affected posts and therefore lack of clarity of situation at various levels, including corps HQ and GHQ.”Gen Kayani further clarified that the troops could respond on their own, when attacked, without waiting for orders from the command. “I have full trust in your capabilities and resolve,” he stressed.The morale-boosting message, however, pointed to a rethink in the military command about the role of ldiers posted on the border with Afghanistan, where they have been assigned to fight militants instead of dealing with border security.The troops are, therefore, given weapons relevant to the task they are expected to perform. But, the latest attack has forced a rethink of the strategy with the focus shifting from fighting militants to ensuring security of the border

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Dec 2011 09:53

Hai Hai yeh Majboori, Malik se itne Doori,Paki se sahi na jayye

No threat of judicial, military Squeeze: Squeezer Gilani

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani on Thursday said that there was no threat of either “judicial” or “military” coup as both the institutions were pro-democracy and did not want to derail the system.
The prime minister was responding to the queries of callers from across the country in a live PTV’s programme “Prime Minister Online”. To a question about the submission of reply by the government, Army, and ISI to the Supreme Court in Memo Case, the prime minister said there will be one reply from the executive authority.The PM said Pakistan’s decision to boycott the Bonn Conference in protest against the Nato/Isaf attack and violation of its sovereignty, was final and taken collectively.“How we can attend the conference when our sovereignty came under attack,” he remarked.
The soil of Afghanistan was used against sovereignty and integrity of Pakistan, he added.He said the decision of staying away from the Bonn Conference was taken after thoughtful consideration and after the meeting of the Federal Cabinet which also endorsed the decisions of halting Nato supplies and vacation of Shamsi Airbase, taken by the Defence Committee of the Cabinet.The decision was unanimous and taken with collective wisdom and keeping in view sentiments and aspirations of the people, he said adding, “If we sit in the Bonn Conference and another attack takes place who will be responsible for that.”“When German Chancellor Angela Merkel asked me to attend the conference, I told her that the matter is referred to a high powered Parliamentary Committee on National Security,” he added.He said in his opinion, the decision to not to attend the conference was in line with national honour, self-respect and dignity.He denied that it was being considered to send Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar to Bonn.
Gilani said Pakistan can work with the United States, Nato and Isaf under a new agreement and by devising new rules of engagement.“We have to formulate new rules of engagement and we can work under a new agreement.”The Prime Minister said it is upto the Parliamentary Committee on National Security to give recommendations for a decision on ties with US and Nato

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 10:03

RamaY wrote:And the liberal force always try to associate with the rest, calling them the silent majority. Per this logic TSP can be labelled only when the entire 200+ million paki population commit a mass terror sooside. A note to the people who try to support such nonsense.

RamaY, I completely agree with you about Kamran Shafi. All 'so-called Paki liberals' speak the same way. They will never, never settle for peace with us. This is the most basic fact that many, many Indians fail to recognize. In fact, when C. Fair said that the PA should be given a whopping, an irate Shafi asked who could deliver that and was about to say that India could not do that before he changed it in the nick of time to claim that India was busy with its economy.

About the 'silent majority'. This is as much an abused term as 'strategic importance of Pakistan'. I liked it when Ms. C. Fair said emphatically that there was no difference between the terrorists and the Pakistani society. This is what we have been saying here too. Just look at the behaviour of the majority Berelvi sect who are supposed to be 'peaceful and very moderate' in the Salman Taseer case. It was the Berelvis who led the eulogy for Qadri and convened the ulema of other sects to threaten a decent burial for Taseer.

Kamran Shafi says that the rest of the world should distinguish between the Deep State and the population. He asks others, therefore, not to say that Pakistan should be condemned for terrorism. It is only the Deep State. This is disingenuous to the core. Along similar lines, we should say NATO AC-130s & apaches did not attack Pakistan but the Deep State only. What cr@p ?

Mr. Man Mohan Singh is driven by nostalgia, conversation in Punjabi language by Gilani, naivety, American pressure and a certain incompetence in seeking renewed friendship and peace with this most obnoxious, poisonous, abominable vermin called Pakistan.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 02 Dec 2011 10:05

Prem wrote: Troops free to hit back in future: Kayani

This is just to salvage some echandee. The troops did try to "hit back" and got clobbered. This latest Kiyanahi uvacha is to make aam abdul believe that their TFTA troops died because they weren't allowed to fight back. Otherwise the NATO kaffirs didn't stand a chance.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 02 Dec 2011 10:17

Even then you notice that he blames communication breakdown for lack of adequate response. If there had been proper communication does he think PAF could've whistled up a flight of F-16s for support? ISAF already had apaches and ac-130s. I'm sure that any point in time there is a flight of f-16's/18s in the air for close air support of frontline troops. I don't think anyone doubts what would happen if fizzleya takes on armed ISAF fighters. And downing a fighter, esp an F-16 is a far far bigger deal for h,d&r for pukis than a few border post soldier abduls....

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 02 Dec 2011 10:20

Interesting what must surely make Unkil even more upset is the fact that this very same Kiya-nahin is the guy they backed to the hilt and sought extension of. If you recall, Groper Gilani clearly had the look a man that had browned his pants when he announced the 'extension' that Kiya-nahin granted himself.

It would also be nice to see how the discussion on sale of F16 goes in Congress now that this jehadi terrorist pig is openly threatening Unkil with his own arms.

The only ones supporting this scum now is leaches like MKB and other WKKs in India..

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 10:21

Prasad wrote:. . . h,d&r . . .

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 02 Dec 2011 10:22

Prasad wrote:Even then you notice that he blames communication breakdown for lack of adequate response. If there had been proper communication does he think PAF could've whistled up a flight of F-16s for support? ISAF already had apaches and ac-130s. I'm sure that any point in time there is a flight of f-16's/18s in the air for close air support of frontline troops. I don't think anyone doubts what would happen if fizzleya takes on armed ISAF fighters. And downing a fighter, esp an F-16 is a far far bigger deal for h,d&r for pukis than a few border post soldier abduls....

Apaches and C-130s are vulnerable to a country with proper air support unless Unkil brings on other gear into play. Thanks to Kiya-nahins warning, he may do just that..perhaps even launch a missile or two at ISI HQ apart from taking basic precautions of knocking out all comm systems and radar installations prior to the next mission.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 02 Dec 2011 10:27

Suppiah wrote:
Prasad wrote:Even then you notice that he blames communication breakdown for lack of adequate response. If there had been proper communication does he think PAF could've whistled up a flight of F-16s for support? ISAF already had apaches and ac-130s. I'm sure that any point in time there is a flight of f-16's/18s in the air for close air support of frontline troops. I don't think anyone doubts what would happen if fizzleya takes on armed ISAF fighters. And downing a fighter, esp an F-16 is a far far bigger deal for h,d&r for pukis than a few border post soldier abduls....
Apaches and C-130s are vulnerable to a country with proper air support unless Unkil brings on other gear into play. Thanks to Kiya-nahins warning, he may do just that..perhaps even launch a missile or two at ISI HQ apart from taking basic precautions of knocking out all comm systems and radar installations prior to the next mission.

Exactly. With a clear warning like this, next time they decide to hit a border area, they just might have fighters armed for a2a flying topcover for the apaches. Puki, though art the epitome of foot in the musharaff.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 02 Dec 2011 10:30

Its already becoming a week now, why Musharaf is not making a squeak from his asylum hide out. Probably, he is wise enough to sense that what's coming in future, and do not want to spoil his safe hideout.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Dec 2011 10:37

Most of the time a supposedly complex problem have simple solution. Sooner or latter Civilized world will come to the one simple conclusion about Paki state and people that they are all BDY. Paki situation is fast developing into that of a foolish busy Bakra unmindful of being surrounded by faithfuls sharping their knives to do the Qurbani.
BTW, King Kayani , Kya Kashmir Chahiye ?

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 02 Dec 2011 10:40

http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/02/pakistan ... ished.html

Pakistan wants those responsible for attack punished

(1 hour ago) Today

ISLAMABAD: Setting terms for renewal of ties with the United States, Pakistan has sought ‘punishment’ for and an ‘apology’ from those responsible for Saturday’s deadly Nato attack on two of its border posts.

The demand, military sources say, was made through a letter sent to Washington earlier this week.

A Pakistani diplomat at the Foreign Office confirmed the demand and said Washington had been categorically told to “stop treating Pakistan as a client state”.

Fair enough. Can change it to a beggar state.

The military has proposed a set of five options to be exercised in case Washington refuses to accept its mistake, apologise and punish those responsible. The options remain a closely guarded secret, but military sources say some of them are quite extreme.

“We have very few options left with us and we clearly understand their implications,” a Pakistani general said, without elaborating what was being considered.

mmhm. Five different positions of ~~foot~~ both feet in the musharraf.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 10:45

Prem wrote:Most of the time a supposedly complex problem have simple solution. Sooner or latter Civilized world will come to the one simple conclusion about Paki state and people that they are all BDY. Paki situation is fast developing into that of a foolish busy Bakra unmindful of being surrounded by faithfuls sharping their knives to do the Qurbani.
BTW, King Kayani , Kya Kashmir Chahiye ?

History teaches us how. One important lesson is to look at the efforts made to dismantle the Ottoman Caliphate.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 10:51

rajanb wrote:Pakistan wants those responsible for attack punished
The military has proposed a set of five options to be exercised in case Washington refuses to accept its mistake, apologise and punish those responsible. The options remain a closely guarded secret, but military sources say some of them are quite extreme.

“We have very few options left with us and we clearly understand their implications,” a Pakistani general said, without elaborating what was being considered.

Threats are coming thick and fast. It could all be bluster, but we should take precautions. By claiming that the options being considered are 'extreme' and the 'implications are understood', the hint is nuclear weapons, both tactical and strategic. I am also 'extreme' here. Strategic weapons for India and tactical weapons for advancing ISAF/ANA forces. It could also be missile attacks at Bagram, for example.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Dec 2011 10:52

The idea of a Subaltern's coup or rather Colonel's coup as opposed to the traditional General's coup is a BR idea. We discussed this in 2007.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 10:54

ramana wrote:The idea of a Subaltern's coup or rather Colonel's coup as opposed to the traditional General's coup is a BR idea. We discussed this in 2007.

Pakistan has experienced both.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 02 Dec 2011 10:55

uncle's forces does not do things as an after thought once it reached the military realm

a2a cover andother retalitory options are never far from hand. The sledge hammer is never far away.

If the pakis do want to test their skills this is the time - next time send F solahs and ah 1s

meanwhile will the smarter folks clue me on when this term Deep State came up first??

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 02 Dec 2011 10:57

shiv wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:We need a BRF acronym/term for the Paki white flag flying over the Paki Army post pest-e-shaheedized by NATO AC-130s. It is after all the Ultimate Towel.
That was a white towel wasn't it? Not a flag as such. Someone archive that picture.

ArmenT has been asked to do the honours on BRF dictionary. Anujan posted a screen grab earlier on this thread: http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh27 ... attack.jpg

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Dec 2011 11:01

[quote="Raja BoseArmenT has been asked to do the honours on BRF dictionary. Anujan posted a screen grab earlier on this thread: http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh27 ... attack.jpg[/quote]

The Flag is symbol of Noball Land of Pakistan .

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 02 Dec 2011 11:14

SSridhar wrote:
Threats are coming thick and fast. It could all be bluster, but we should take precautions. By claiming that the options being considered are 'extreme' and the 'implications are understood', the hint is nuclear weapons, both tactical and strategic. I am also 'extreme' here. Strategic weapons for India and tactical weapons for advancing ISAF/ANA forces. It could also be missile attacks at Bagram, for example.

I agree that we should be prepared. But I do not think they will have the guts to go nuclear. It sounds like the Porkis have raised this incident to such a crescendo that now besides a badly bruised H&D they have to bolster their macho image. An image created by bluster and propaganda over the years of "victory"

in '47, 65 and 71.

One possibility is that they seem to have miscalculated their so called "strategic importance" and are looking for a mediator who would be more forceful in getting them back to Bonn, etc. etc. Hence the harder bluster.

Second possibility, which is borne out by history that they believe so much in themselves, that they think they can get away with a limited engagement. Kiya Nahin joining Ayub, Yayha and Mousearraf in their history of failed adventures.

The former more likely than the latter. But we need to monitor every nuance of theirs so we aren't caught off our guard.

Frankly, I am itching for a fight.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 02 Dec 2011 11:30

Hmm Shukla has this gem on his blog

There is little sympathy in India for the Pakistan Army; its hands are stained with too much Indian blood. Consequently many Indians would react to this latest coalition fiasco with an indifferent shrug that implies, “The Pakistanis have made their bed; now let them lie in it.” But that would be inhuman, short-sighted and strategically unwise.

Instead one must deliberate upon the western military penchant for untrammelled firepower.

seriously?? Inhuman

WTF is he talking about

Sometimes I wonder what happens to these guys after they leave the forces??

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 02 Dec 2011 11:40

Surya wrote:Hmm Shukla has this gem on his blog

I thought that he was your new best friend Surya.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 11:44

There are still terror camps across the LoC: Home Ministry

“As far as the talks with Pakistan go, I will not approach the talks with any pre-conceived notion. I will say what we have to say, I will say what are the facts, how we see them and [share] the evidence that we have [about terror acts]. I will say what we expect of them,'' Union Home Secretary R.K. Singh said here on Thursday. He was addressing a press conference here after releasing a “three-year report on major tasks accomplished during December 1, 2008 to November 30, 2011.'' Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram completed three years in office on Wednesday.

Mr. Singh said that certain dates were proposed for the Home Secretary-level talks from both the sides but the schedule was yet to be finalised.

“Terrorist camps are still there across the LoC [Line of Control]. We have specific reports and detailed photographs. There is no question of denying that. We are certain terrorists are in large numbers. Attempts are still on to infiltrate them into India through several routes,'' he said.

Asked for his response to the recent statement of the Jamaat-ud-Dawah (JuD) threatening India, he said there were many elements in Pakistan who were radicalised and jihadis. “They are openly saying all these things from different platforms in Pakistan. It is for Pakistan to control these elements and ensure that they do not create any hysteria.”

The issue of fake Indian currency notes was “very crucial,'' he noted and admitted that high quality fake currency notes were being pumped into India. Asked if Pakistan's spy agency ISI was involved in such activities, he said the quality of the notes suggested that some State actors were involved in it as well.

“We believe that some State actors are working to pump fake currency notes into India. There could be State actors employing non-state actors. We are not taking the name of the State actor. You can understand who the State actor is,'' Mr. Singh said.

Specific and substantive initiatives were taken in the past three years and capacity was added for effective intervention.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 02 Dec 2011 11:47

This came in one hour back:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/301117/[b]r ... ck-says-us[/b]/

I think sometime back ISAF had a similar incident where they were getting fired at from within a 100m from a post and on asking the Pakis were told that the Pakis had vacated that post. ISAF did not bother, for whatever reason to do anything.

Same stunt this time. Pakis probably thought ISAF would not do anything and lo and behold fire and brimstone.

I suspect both parties had a tubelight moment. But the ISAF tubelight lit up faster. Unfortunately for the Pakis.

Tsk. Tsk.

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 02 Dec 2011 11:56

The original WSJ quoted by the Tribune

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 00442.html

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 11:58

Memogate reaches Pakistan Supreme Court

Later in the evening, the former Law Minister and Pakistan People's Party's lawyer, Babar Awan, pointed out that the Court had ordered the setting up of the commission without hearing the government.

“Once again history is repeating itself.''

Referring to the “judicial murder'' of the former Prime Minister, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Mr. Awan said: “PPP has never got justice and Punjab has always had its way in this country.''

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 02 Dec 2011 11:59

Rajan B from the link

According to US officials, the commandos first thought they were being fired at by Taliban militants, but later discovered that the fire reportedly came from Pakistani troops.
This led the commandoes to request an airstrike against the assailants, who then contacted a joint border-control center to verify if there were any Pakistani troops present at the checkpost.
The Pakistani representatives at the center reportedly said that there were no Pakistani troops in the area; the US officials told the WSJ that this cleared the way for the Americans to conduct the airstrikes.

So it was this Taqiyya which got the Paki soldiers killed. The US and Afgans attacked the Taliban, Taliban turned out to be Regular Paki soldiers, Paki leadership tried thier usual Taqqiyya denying their links with Taliban and Miltants like they do with the media. End result 24 TFTA dead.

I still don't understand so much Rona Dhona for 24 pieces of worthless sh**. If Kiyani feels so strong launch a few Ghauris, Baburs and use US F-16's and against NATO forces.

U.S. officials countered that the Pakistani positions were more like makeshift campsites than established military bases. A U.S. official said that because the Taliban and Pakistani military use some of the same weaponry{ My take not only same weaponry but same men and same leadership and chain of command, it was difficult to tell who was firing at the assault force.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 02 Dec 2011 12:00

hulaku wrote:The original WSJ quoted by the Tribune

From the above,

Pakistan doesn't have veto authority over strikes along the border, U.S. officials said.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 02 Dec 2011 12:36

No enemies - no friends - sankuji

(exception of the turds from the west)

in the best traditions of chankian

I can criticize him on JSF while accepting his findings on Arjun

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 02 Dec 2011 12:46

Raja Bose wrote: ArmenT has been asked to do the honours on BRF dictionary. Anujan posted a screen grab earlier on this thread: http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh27 ... attack.jpg

Honors done in here saar. Bliss to comment on entry as needed.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 02 Dec 2011 12:49

have you guys heard about this?......

A well positioned Porki (with MBA, etc etc degrees from reputed US schools) working
in oil industry said in a soul-searching way that it is already wellknown among the
porki elites that "pakistan will probably cease to exist after 2013"....hence many elites
with resources are shifting their bases in other countries - mostly in the Gulf......those
who have family connections in europe, canada and australia are already making arrangements to jump from the sinking ship........

That news came to me as a surprise,...and therefore wanted to cross check with BRFites.....

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 02 Dec 2011 12:54

ArmenT wrote:
Raja Bose wrote: ArmenT has been asked to do the honours on BRF dictionary. Anujan posted a screen grab earlier on this thread: http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh27 ... attack.jpg
Honors done in here saar. Bliss to comment on entry as needed.

Many thanks. Just one correction - please to change "the Pakistani side actually raised a white towel" to "the Pakistani side actually raised a white towel in surrender"

Added: This is probably a better permanent link for the towel pic: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Compo ... 0;7;70.jpg

niran · Post by **niran** » 02 Dec 2011 13:04

Kati wrote: That news came to me as a surprise,...and therefore wanted to cross check with BRFites.....

yes, it is true and as been going on since a decade ago.

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 02 Dec 2011 13:20

^^^

If true Porkis have found a new way to get rid of feudalism...

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 02 Dec 2011 13:45

Suicide blast injures up to 70 near Afghan Nato base

AFP

http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/02/suicide- ... -base.html

So have the Paki state actors dressed as non state actors started again? If so, and ISAF has proof of it, will they retaliate? Under the current circumstances.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 02 Dec 2011 13:59

Pakistan defends lack of action during NATO attack

Islamabad: Pakistan's military says confusion and a communication breakdown prevented its airforce from scrambling to defend troops on the ground during the deadly NATO bombing last weekend at two border outposts.

The military has faced uncomfortable questions over why the airforce did not respond after the army said the deadly NATO attack went on for almost two hours and that Pakistani commanders had contacted and pleaded with coalition commanders to stop firing.

A military statement on Friday said the airforce could not be deployed due to a "breakdown of communication" and confusion at "various levels" within the organization

This was a very well planned and executed military operation.

partha · Post by **partha** » 02 Dec 2011 14:01

Altair wrote:
Pakistan defends lack of action during NATO attack

Islamabad: Pakistan's military says confusion and a communication breakdown prevented its airforce from scrambling to defend troops on the ground during the deadly NATO bombing last weekend at two border outposts.

The military has faced uncomfortable questions over why the airforce did not respond after the army said the deadly NATO attack went on for almost two hours and that Pakistani commanders had contacted and pleaded with coalition commanders to stop firing.

A military statement on Friday said the airforce could not be deployed due to a "breakdown of communication" and confusion at "various levels" within the organization

Even if they want to use their F16s, they won't be able to use them because of the IFF right?

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 02 Dec 2011 14:03

Their airforce has been found MIA during the OBL raid and last weeks PAW (Pakistani Army's Wipe-out).