Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 00:06
by Paul
Power outage in all major cities in Pakistan.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 00:07
by Paul
Syed Anser Abbas @AnserAbbas 8m8 minutes ago
Light is also gone in all Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Quetta, Karachi and half of Lahore at exact same time.I think its 11:57 pm
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 00:17
by member_22733
Seventh Century is here!!!! AoA!!!
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 00:17
by abhijitm
Paul wrote:
Syed Anser Abbas @AnserAbbas 8m8 minutes ago Light is also gone in all Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Quetta, Karachi and half of Lahore at exact same time.I think its 11:57 pm
what was gone before that?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 00:22
by Tuvaluan
abhijitm:
begging ammo, mortar for the rangers? They must have exhausted all the stock recently.
Begging seems like the most likely reason -- now which family member or body part will the pak army have to sell to China to get this baksheesh?
Pakistan is in no shape for the paki army to start hostilities with India, and that makes them less useful for china than before. So Pakis probably are headed to China to ask for cash monies to buy oil or whatever that will make them rise up so they can demolish India like a lion swatting a hyena...of the four fathers of Pakistan, Japan and KSA seem to have significantly dropped support to Pakistan for their own reasons, and now it is only USA and china that continue to feed the monster.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 01:15
by Shreeman
Tuvaluan wrote:wadi wrote:
He is the home minister of India, not a geostrategist of some flea-ridden sewer, so he can't make categorical, sweeping statements. In any case, how much more direct can you get, than to say "Not all Pakis are terrorists".
Was not complaining against the home minister's statement -- he surely has his reasons for his response. Just a general "oh, them pakis" kind of statement.
"not all pakistanis want to celebrate the charlie hebdo terrorists as heroes.."
(some of them want to celebrate Salman taseer's assassin as a hero)
this could be a fun game for boring evenings after a long day toiling in the fields.
If one were to generalize, what you are saying is -- some pakistanis are baluch or baltistani. Also, there are hazara, and even thd odd hindu, sikh, and ahmedi thrown in. Why not say this directly. Ahmedis are not terrorists, track 2 with them. Or in Baltistan. Or with the odd murtad that still remains.
All pakistanis are not idiots, some are ahmedi.
All pakistanis are not fools, some have to sweep the streets.
All pakistanis are not terrorists, some can only wear the belt under burka.
All pakistanis are not illiterate, some are wimmens.
All pakistanis are not unmarried, some are widows.
All pakistanis dont downhill ski, some have premature eggsplosion.
All pakistanis are not lazy, some just like to sleep in.
All pakistanis are not imaginary, some ride the samjhota express with drugs.
All pakistanis are not violent, some have an interest in boating.
All pakistanis dont ride trains, there are no trains.
All pakistanis dont "ride goats", some dont like their meat tenderised.
All pakistanis are not inbred, some have four fathers.
All pakistanis dont have four wives, most have to make do with goats.
All pakistanis dont belong to JuD. They belong to LeT. No, ASWJ. No, the TTP. Sorry, Pakistani ... eh .. AQ, ... no? Ok, The IS in eastern arapia, then.
All pakistani are not araps. WHAAAAT? They aren't?
Will wonders ever cease. Why frame this language? Why can the Home minister worry about "home" and the external affairs and PMO be the one mouth spouting all track 1 2 3 4?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 01:18
by Shreeman
Amber G. wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:What's up? Technically correct, but rather strange.
Caption of photo:
"Tourists visit Lahore Fort in eastern Pakistan's Lahore on Jan. 24, 2015. Lahore Fort, listed by United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) as a world heritage in 1981, contains marble palaces and mosques decorated with mosaics and gilt. (Xinhua/Ahmad Kamal)" http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo ... 117324.htm
The technically correct and traditional term for Lahore is east Bangaldesh
No. It is west Bangladesh. They won the election. East Bangladesh is pretty much chittagong.
Strange thought -- with the renaming fetish in that part of the world, this could well have materialized. Myanmar <-- Burma style. They would be studying Bengali in Lahore and calling it Moshaipore too.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 01:19
by Tuvaluan
Will wonders ever cease. Why frame this language? Why can the Home minister worry about "home" and the external affairs and PMO be the one mouth spouting all track 1 2 3 4?
Indeed, shreemanji. it looks like he was asked a question in a presser and instead of deflecting the question to the MEA, he actually attempted an answer, which is usually a bad idea since you want scripted answers from the MEA or PMO for such questions from the press.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 01:28
by abhijitm
looks like djinn has stolen power from the entire pakistan. Quetta to Isloo all are in dark.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:08
by abhijitm
Greener hand suspected...
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:14
by abhijitm
80-90% pakland has power outage
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:17
by abhijitm
Wondering if there is always load shedding then why this outrage on outage? Most pakis could not even noticed.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:23
by Shankk
LokeshC wrote:Seventh Century is here!!!! AoA!!!
This is just the beginning. Aage aage dekho hota hai kya.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:26
by Shreeman
^^^ I suspect some internal testing of e-grid warfare. Local training exercise, watch out for export sooner or later.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:31
by abhijitm
It is similar to 2012 india blackout. One circuit is blown up by greeners and then cascading failure across the country. Pak minster is claiming the supply will be restored in 5-6 hrs.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Many parts of Punjab, Sindh and Balochistan were left without power late on Saturday after the transmission line from the Guddu power plant tripped {blown} and caused a cascading effect throughout the national grid, Express News reported.
According to initial details, Guddu’s 220KV power line to Quetta tripped which affected the 500KV power line from the national grid and forced Bin Qasim and the Jamshoro thermal power stations to go offline.
The breakdown left many parts of Sindh, including parts of Karachi without power. K-Electric, which supplies 650 mega watts of power to Karachi, explained that a trip of the National Transmission and Dispatch Company (NTDC) line was having a cascading effect and had de-synced their supply.
Due to the power outage, the Dhabeji pumping station stopped functioning and supply of water to Karachi was interrupted.
There were reports of some grid stations in Punjab being affected where three grid stations of NTDC tripped affecting Lahore, Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, Multan and Gujranwala.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:38
by Shreeman
Shankk wrote:
LokeshC wrote:Seventh Century is here!!!! AoA!!!
This is just the beginning. Aage aage dekho hota hai kya.
You see 7th sentury, I see extensive TV coverage by drone. Soon there will be so many TV drones flying over pakistan it wouldbe impossible for dronacharya to find flying space. Advanced 22nd sentury takniki.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:38
by Shreeman
abhijitm wrote:It is similar to 2012 india blackout. One circuit is blown up by greeners and then cascading failure across the country. Pak minster is claiming the supply will be restored in 5-6 hrs.
Nope.
edit -- i suppose peaceful administration by jihard-e-fistula could also be getting closer. abdullah is dead. first, gas, then petrol, then electricity. i suppose onions will be the last straw when they disappear.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 02:39
by Prem
Shankk wrote:
LokeshC wrote:Seventh Century is here!!!! AoA!!! This is just the beginning. Aage aage dekho hota hai kya.
Yee Kaffis, Abraham was first believer & Origianal founder of Bakistan ,Paki must not stop till they reach that age of Purity.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 03:34
by RCase
Just a thought. Could Ombaba's change of itinerary canceling Agra to visit the new King of Sand also include a secret stop over to placate the munna?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 04:14
by A_Gupta
The quote in a different way:
Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh on Saturday said US President Barack Obama's warning to Pakistan to keep a check on their terror cells is a result of India's diplomatic approach under the leadership of Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
“Obama said that Pakistan should keep a check on terrorism cells. This is a major achievement and is the result of the diplomatic approach by Prime Minister Modi. However, we do not say that everyone in Pakistan is a terrorist,” said Singh.
(Asked) about American economic aid to Pakistan even after the American President's statement Rajnath Singh said that not all in Pakistan are terrorists.
Now that is significant context that the English media seems to have omitted.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 04:50
by Prem
Purav, Pashchim, Uttar , Dakshin, Andhkar , Andhakar , Andhkar
Andhere Mey Jo Baithey Hai Nazar Unn Par Bhi Kusch Dallo
Arre or Bijo Walo!!
Hamme Nafrat Se Matt Dekho, Zarra Pakistan Par Reham Kha Lo !
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 04:51
by Shreeman
^^^ Arun,
There is no defending the home minister here. This government is all for being careful with the media. They have been treated with contempt for over 10 years. The "home" minister has no business stepping on external affair toes.
Finally, bakistanis have four fathers, they are not looking for a fifth. They do not need defending kr equal equal from indian ministers.
They want to be all green. Stop trying to make them murtaad. BSF has been suffering the most lately, what business does mr singh have to be singing praises. All bakistanis ARE. That is it. Anyone wanting a certificate can apply at third window, laal madrassa or branch office muridke (travel by train!).Anyone wanting certificate to the reverse can travel to good sharif in lawhore (air conditioned bus!).
What would bakistanis have to do to be in the bad books -- kill, rape, pillage? (check, 1971). IED (15 year experience), hijinks with flying birds (check), dig under the border (check), yada yada, yads. Boats ?(not even weeks since big event).
Stop making smalltalk of major baki achievements. Green they are. Green they need to be. Where is the scope for good-cop-pery?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 04:54
by Shreeman
RCase wrote:Just a thought. Could Ombaba's change of itinerary canceling Agra to visit the new King of Sand also include a secret stop over to placate the munna?
No, but meeting in sandcastle is a different matter. Where are the good/bad sharifs? If chocolate King traveled to sand castle can the orphans sit at home?
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 05:29
by A_Gupta
Shreeman wrote:^^^ Arun,
There is no defending the home minister here. This government is all for being careful with the media. They have been treated with contempt for over 10 years. The "home" minister has no business stepping on external affair toes.
Since when is attempting to get a more complete reading of the press conference constitute a defense? Actually points to the lousiness of the media.
PS: seems to me the question in the Rajnath Singh press conference would be the first question that Obama would be asked if a press conference was part of his itinerary - namely, why is American aid to Pakistan continuing? Seems to me the English Press doesn't want the Americans in the slightest embarrassed by even having that question in the English media prior to Obama's arrival.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 05:40
by Shankk
Jhujar wrote:Yee Kaffis, Abraham was first believer & Origianal founder of Bakistan ,Paki must not stop till they reach that age of Purity.
I see where you are going with that but even if all kaffirs come together, we cannot beat them. There was a recent quote that every child born is a muslim. If push comes to shove they will even claim Arrah did not just show path that is Islam but he himself was a muslim too.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 05:58
by Gagan
Jhujar wrote:Doval Sahib again
Wow Jujhar ji what a link!
There are two more small video clips of parts of that same speech which are equally as amazing !
I tried to see if there was a full video of this speech, he had promised to elaborate more about some things - can't find it yet.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 06:03
by Gagan
pakistan ki fati huyi hai doval and modi ke behaviour pe
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 06:05
by Gagan
Ya khudara, je kya !!!
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 06:05
by Shankk
Shreeman wrote:You see 7th sentury, I see extensive TV coverage by drone. Soon there will be so many TV drones flying over pakistan it wouldbe impossible for dronacharya to find flying space. Advanced 22nd sentury takniki.
Jokes aside. I just had a thought. Not a real scenario, just some posturing...
I am not an expert on new clear delivery systems but they sure rely on electricity for launching. If we sense Pakistan is ready for harakiri then just sabotage their power grid. That will delay their capacity to launch a massive strike and that will give us some time. Then just proceed to nook them with total disregard for human life. Effectively deplete their capacity for second strike. There will be a severe backlash from around the world but in reality many countries will actually thank India behind closed doors for taking care of their problems. Now the response from other Islamic nations will be harsh but I doubt if they will be willing to risk their life and country for pakis. Nobody cares for pakis. Not even muslims in other Islamic countries. Besides everybody really understands what kind of mood a country is in that has just nooked another new clear country. That itself would be a serious deterrent.
Now about Pakistan's second strike capacity, given the extreme instability there with fears of real muslims laying their hands on nooks controlled by fake muslims, it is extremely difficult for them to field large amount of mobile nooks mated to delivery systems. We all know how capable they are to develop the third leg of their triad. China is very unlikely to give nook subs to Pakistan having tested real islam in Xinxiang. Besides if they cross that Laxman rekha, India will then start no holds barred counter measures including full fledged military alliance with all the countries in Pacific including Australia and others. So far India has considered Chinese sensitivities about grouping up against them but above mistake by them will effectively free India any restriction and that includes giving all kinds of weapons to Vietnam, Taiwan, Philippines etc.
Of course this is just a posturing and I do not want real nook war but if it is a real end time then...
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 06:11
by Gagan
Lo ji lo !!!
Pakistan has pulled out the ultimate coup!
OBAMA IS NAAT VISITING INDIA, BUT WILL VISIT PAKISTAN INSTEAD
There you go you kaafirs,
Jive Jive Paak-kus-taan
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 06:12
by Gagan
^^^
This video is so painful to watch. Poor Pakistanis...
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 06:25
by Gagan
H&H H&H H&H echandee
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 07:23
by SSridhar
Shankk wrote:Now about Pakistan's second strike capacity, given the extreme instability there with fears of real muslims laying their hands on nooks controlled by fake muslims, it is extremely difficult for them to field large amount of mobile nooks mated to delivery systems. We all know how capable they are to develop the third leg of their triad. China is very unlikely to give nook subs to Pakistan having tested real islam in Xinxiang
Shankk, both Pakistan & China are reckless countries. Forget about the Chinese transferring the CHIC-4 design, or the HEU or the M-9(Hatf-3), M-11(Hatf-2), its political and diplomatic support to Pakistan etc. Even today, China is involved in proliferating to Pakistan as it is commissioning the 4th nuclear reactor at Khushab under a non-existent grandfathered bilateral treaty. The Chinese proliferation has helped Pakistan build the very destabilizing TNWs (Tactical Nuclear Weapons) which are far easier to be smuggled inti Xinjiang and yet the Chinese are recklessly impervious to that. Nuke subs are far less dangerous in spite of the recent attempt by the Believers to hijack a Pakistani frigate to attack US assets.
Besides if they cross that Laxman rekha, India will then start no holds barred counter measures including full fledged military alliance with all the countries in Pacific including Australia and others. So far India has considered Chinese sensitivities about grouping up against them but above mistake by them will effectively free India any restriction and that includes giving all kinds of weapons to Vietnam, Taiwan, Philippines etc.
IMHO, China crossed that Lakshman Rekha a long time back when it enabled TSP with nukes and their delivery systems.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 09:27
by Shreeman
A_Gupta wrote:
Shreeman wrote:^^^ Arun,
There is no defending the home minister here. This government is all for being careful with the media. They have been treated with contempt for over 10 years. The "home" minister has no business stepping on external affair toes.
Since when is attempting to get a more complete reading of the press conference constitute a defense? Actually points to the lousiness of the media.
PS: seems to me the question in the Rajnath Singh press conference would be the first question that Obama would be asked if a press conference was part of his itinerary - namely, why is American aid to Pakistan continuing? Seems to me the English Press doesn't want the Americans in the slightest embarrassed by even having that question in the English media prior to Obama's arrival.
If there was video of the event, it would be one thing to analyze.
Otherwise, IMHO, it is just repeating the common denominator, which remains "all pakistanis are not indians". Frankly the answer as good hosts would be "we would make our concerns clear" at the appropriate time to the right people, and "move along" to bidenesque mischief seekers. That is what I would say, and frankly I am no genius to have thought of this. Pakistan === terrorism should be required reading for all incoming office holders.
My disagreement with the statement is, very much, rabid.
Re. second/third strikes -- It has been Saudi Arabia for both china/pakistan for three decades. You think Israel keeps quiet about them just because of the oil? They dont say anything about israeli nukes, israel doesnt make a big fuss about chinese missiles, pakistani donations.
ps -- a saturdin pipeline IED mubarak after a long time. No TV, them "all pakistanis are not..." had to do something to keep busy.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 09:50
by Shankk
SS ji, I respect your knowledge on the topic but have a different take on this. What China did in the past really happened in a totally different environment. China then was not a threat to anybody but instead a darling of the leader of free world and by extension half of the polarized world. Part of exotic east and other such blah blah. India then was extremely weak still recovering from insulting defeat in war with China. Pakistan was extremely belligerent due to unstinting support from Islamic block, china, US and the western world also not to forget Japan. Just like Pakistan lost sight of reality, China also got light headed and thought global politics is so much in their favor that they can get away with anything. They thought they can have their own Israel without any repercussions. That was the rough environment then when they decided to gift nooks to pakis. India acquiring nooks effectively check mated that move since they knew any attack by Pakistan will result in India using maal on them. However their superiority complex was still intact then. Also India did not have established delivery mechanisms then, neither we had any established military doctrines around maal that will be taken really seriously. That helped them continuing their policy of boxing India into sooth asia by proping up pakistan and blatant proliferation. I am a little surprised that a civilization so old got so carried away and took such a near term decision. Probably the spell of western trick of communism (like christianity) did the trick.
Slowly then situation started changing. Their absolute geo political advantage started eroding. They couldn't anymore hide as a munna but instead were being taken as a potential competitor. Eventually it became a depending factor for them hedge India's rise. Now they seriously need Pakistan in case of string of pearls tightning around their neck. They also have anoter pakistan called north korea in the east for the same purpose. Now coming back to current proliferation to pakis, I would not be surprised if pakis are sqeezing panda b@lls if they go back on projects considered a life line of pakistan. There are so many arguments they can make to china and threaten them in so many ways. Also the real damage is already done in terms of giving them know how. What is now being provided is the raw material that otherwise nobody will give to pakis. They have a reason to have camel inside the tent. However the difference is they are not operating from the position of absolute strength vis a vis India like they did before. Whether they like it or not, India has already emerged as a power pole and they have accepted it. Messing with India now is not like keeping India boxed in sooth asia anymore. Neither is India going to verbally protest and then accept it as fait accompli. China now has many more enemies and they sure are smart enough to not want India as a sworn enemy.
Some wise man said here on BRF that Pakistanis are not suicidal, they are homicidal. That is very true, rest all is posturing by Pakistan. It worked so far because we bought that idea. What AD is doing IMHO is trying to unravel that myth. Its a very risky path fraught with dangers but we are left with no other choice now. We must call their bluff. Unlike pakis, China has so much more to loose raising the antey. Anyways they cannot take on so many powers at the same time and they know it. Gifting pakistan the third leg of triad, either directlly or indirectlly is tantamount to giving them nooks they never had. Only this time India is very different and so is the geo political scenario in the world.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 09:54
by Shreeman
Shankk,
The china analysis is weak. This narrative is not seen outside India. The same holds true for future china developments. But I am no expert there either.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 09:55
by Tuvaluan
shankk wrote:
Unlike pakis, China has so much more to loose raising the antey. Anyways they cannot take on so many powers at the same time and they know it.
The chinese *are* taking on multiple powers at the same time, if we pay attention all their recent warmongering in the pacific and towards the east -- they seem to be very similar to the pakis, probably why they get along so well.
Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 12 Dec
Posted: 25 Jan 2015 10:01
by Shreeman
Tuvaluan wrote:shankk wrote:
Unlike pakis, China has so much more to loose raising the antey. Anyways they cannot take on so many powers at the same time and they know it.
The chinese *are* taking on multiple powers at the same time, if we pay attention all their recent warmongering in the pacific and towards the east -- they seem to be very similar to the pakis, probably why they get along so well.
Simple question -- who are the china-hands at BRF. Do we have a Doc, a Mangolian, a JrJr and a SS in that domain? I dont venture into china related threads.
Now the response from other Islamic nations will be harsh but I doubt if they will be willing to risk their life and country for pakis. Nobody cares for pakis. Not even muslims in other Islamic countries. Besides everybody really understands what kind of mood a country is in that has just nooked another new clear country. That itself would be a serious deterrent.