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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 19:14
by uddu
37 Indian Ships Stuck In Hormuz: What Can India Do? | Strait Of Hormuz Crisis Explained

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 19:40
by ricky_v
dont really know where to post this as this should also come under the IOR, american submarine attacked an iranian ship off the coast of Galle, Sri Lanka and sunk it, 80 were killed, 30 were rescued
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video of the same by the war dept
https://x.com/DeptofWar/status/2029193757162139762


added later, this ship was part of a naval exercise with the indian navy

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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 20:03
by uddu
That's claimed by the American's already. The Ship came for MILAN and President's fleet review. There was no military exercise as such. Mostly a passage exercise with all the ships participating. Other than that nothing. And they left. Somewhere close to SL, got torpedoed. SL Navy rescued about 30 sailors. American's stating it to be in International waters. The Iranian Ship failed to detect the Submarine.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 20:04
by uddu
This was the same during the Houthi crisis. Eventually Indian Navy Trishul class frigates were seen marked with Kill marks of Iranian drones. This time also will get challenged if Iran takes hard stance.
Iran To Allow Only Chinese Vessels Through Strait Of Hormuz: Sources

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 20:13
by Cyrano
Iran is following a book called "How to make enemies and piss off people"

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 20:15
by uddu
Sri Lanka Navy Statement On Iran Warship Attack: 'Distress Call Given, Saw Bodies Floating'
IRIS Dena LIVE News: An Iranian naval frigate, the IRIS Dena, was reportedly sunk after a submarine attack off the southern coast of Sri Lanka on Wednesday. At least 101 people are missing and 78 wounded, including 32 seriously, after the attack, according to news agency Reuters.

The IRIS Dena is a Moudge-class frigate, which was returning to Iran after participating in the MILAN 2026 multinational naval exercises in Visakhapatnam, India.

Earlier, Sri Lanka's foreign ministry said that the military had rescued 32 people on board the sinking Iranian ship. Dr. Anil Jasinghe, a top health ministry official, says one of them is in critical condition, seven are receiving emergency treatment and others are being treated for minor injuries.

"What ​we know at this point is that 79 people were ​rescued and brought to the hospital and one of them was seriously injured. ‌Another ⁠101 are believed to be missing and the vessel has sunk," a Sri Lankan navy source told Reuters.


Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 20:59
by Luxtor
Did India setup this Iranian navy ship for the U.S. Navy to torpedo it? India did or did not know that a U.S. Navy submarine was lurking in the waters of the Indian Ocean near India/SL and could not or did not warn the Iranian navy ship of its presence? Does India have the capability to know whose ships and submarines are operating in the Indian Ocean and their locations at all times, for our own security reasons. This war against Iran started immediately after Modi left Israel after his visit there. Before Modi left Israel he gave a vague statement about global islamic terrorism and that it'll be crushed or something to that effect. Is this what was discussed between Modi and Netanyahu - The impending war on Iran by Israel and the U.S. and what was agreed upon in the long term for India's security and economic benefit?

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 21:38
by ricky_v
^ dont really think that the developments in me are good for india's security and economic benefit in the long term, more importantly, the pm, and i mean this in a good way, is a bloodless dealmaker without any traction to any polity who will extract the maximum benefit for indians. There cannot be any sweetheart deals as our proverbial "30 silvers", if it termed as such, as with the current us admin it is not worth the e-spit it is digitally signed on. The only real goal in today's geopolity is then thus land and india only requires strings of couple of 2 bighas as a necessity in the north east for a port and other enlargements from a mewling pup of a nation.
the us and isreal have no say in it and there is no such thing present like a forum of nations like league of nations for their verbal support if india does decide to take it.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 21:38
by uddu
Luxtor wrote: 04 Mar 2026 20:59 Did India setup this Iranian navy ship for the U.S. Navy to torpedo it? India did or did not know that a U.S. Navy submarine was lurking in the waters of the Indian Ocean near India/SL and could not or did not warn the Iranian navy ship of its presence? Does India have the capability to know whose ships and submarines are operating in the Indian Ocean and their locations at all times, for our own security reasons. This war against Iran started immediately after Modi left Israel after his visit there. Before Modi left Israel he gave a vague statement about global islamic terrorism and that it'll be crushed or something to that effect. Is this what was discussed between Modi and Netanyahu - The impending war on Iran by Israel and the U.S. and what was agreed upon in the long term for India's security and economic benefit?
The Ship survived one more day being in the Indian ocean. Else yesterday itself must have been Sunk along with the ships of the same class. The Ship don't have capability to detect U.S submarine. So there is not much they can do. The whole Iranian Navy is a Navy for the sake of a Navy with not much of capability. This ship is around 1500 tons and they call it a Frigate, while our patrol vessels are about 2500 tons.

This is what happened in Iranian Waters.
Kaboom'! Exact Moment US Bombed Iran’s Warship To Pieces On Cam And Then Huge Mushroom Cloud...

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 22:31
by uddu
Knew that the Anti-national scums will come out to make it an Indian Issue.
This fool is saying is that there is some area called Sphere of Influence. So? If it's our sphere of Influence are we supposed to Sink the U.S Submarine because they have a fight with the Iranian ship? Where are these people coming from?

4000km or more, when war happens, every asset of that nation is a target for the other nation. If the Iranians have tracked the U.S Sub first, they must have made attempt to sink it with their Light weight torpedo. And what if U.S Submarine got sunk? Are we supposed to go to war with the Iranians for Sinking the U.S Sub in our Sphere of Influence? These people are insane and brain dead.

What Idea is the fool talking about? If we have idea of who and all are travelling though the Indian ocean are we supposed to torpedo the U.S ships? These fellas are far insane than Trump.

If he is that pro Iran, he must Thank Shriman Modi for inviting the Iranian Ship for the International Fleet Review that helped them to survive for one more day other than their fellow ships that got destroyed yesterday in Iranian waters. Also around 30 of them get to survive.

https://x.com/i/status/2029228993569014083
@JhaSanjay
BJP IS COWARDLY: A USA PUPPET

BJP’s defense that the Iranian warship that was torpedoed was in international waters reveals their unalloyed spinelessness.

Bro, there is something called “ sphere of influence”. It was in the Indian Ocean near Sri Lanka, just south of our borders, not very far from our territorial limits.

How could a US submarine convert a peaceful non-combative, non-war zone 4000 kilometers from the Persian Gulf into one of war by a bloody annihilation?

Where is the Modi government? Were they told by the US? Did they know? Did they not have any idea?

India needs answers.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 04 Mar 2026 23:46
by A_Gupta
The Chosun of Korea reported:
https://www.chosun.com/english/national ... W6UTZG3IY/

South Korea's Cheongung-II Intercepts Iranian Missiles in UAE Combat Debut
Domestically developed M-SAM system achieved over 90% interception rate in first combat use, part of $3.5 billion UAE contract

Domestically developed air defense weapon system Cheongung-II (M-SAM) was deployed in combat in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and intercepted multiple Iranian missiles, it was revealed on the 3rd. This marks the first instance where South Korea’s exported weapon system has been deployed in combat, and it is also the first time Cheongung-II has been utilized in actual combat.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 00:21
by Mukesh.Kumar
My reading from ground isn't very encouraging.

Despite what UAE government is saying, people are getting edgier seeing evidence of attacks. I have eyewitness reports of Fujairah oli storage, Jebel Ali port, oil facilities in Abu Dhabi hit. Qatar LNG had major fire, Aaramco refinery hit. Life in Bahrain is quiter streets. The US Navy Base is just off Manama.

UAE people trying to evacuate to Oman. And Doha people to Riyadh. Taxi's between Abu Dhabi and Oman have disappeared. And a few Social Media influencers who are on government dime are going overboard on "Listen to govt. Don't publish pictures. Don't pay attention to rumours."

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 00:43
by SRajesh
Regardless of the political rethorics and slugfest, I have a question:
The frigate invited for a Naval drill.
Ship torpedoed in our backyard.
Raises questions :
1. Our posturing as Major Security Provider in the IOC.
2. Our both underwater , littoral and sky surivllance capabilities in tracking Sub-surface vessels.
3. Our quest for Blue Water Capabilties
4. Our Strategic Posturing as a Naval Froce to reckon.
So Which one is right :
We had and have the capabilities and we had tracked the US Sub and probably guessed it intent but did not warn Iran of the potential danger. If this is the case then we are and were culpable for this act of Drama on High Seas.
Or, we were unaware of the presence of US Killer Sub. And if thats the case what have we spent all that money on. God forbid tomorrow if Paki combined with Chinese navy do this on our assets. We would be the laughing stock of whole world.
In all this Unkil is sending a message to India and China, that he is well entrenched in the IOC region and can hit anyone at anytime.
How can we be the voice of Global South if American Brinkmanship can mount such acts in our backyard.
And before people can say that this happened outside our EEZ, and if thats all we are bothered then we should limit ourselves to Littoral or Brown Water Navy and stop dreaming of 150+ vessels Blue Water Navy.
Modiji is loosing image here.
And I feel that is being done deliberately by US to tarnish his image : look at the timing of the attack ; Just after his visit to Isreal. And this sinking of the ship invited for a multinational naval drill
Hmm US is upto usual dirty tricks to provide ammo for RaGa and the BIF's

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 01:20
by Lisa
^ How stupid was this Iranian captain, he went out to sea whilst American SSN's were hunting for him!

Darwinian Award. His sailors all died needlessly.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 01:23
by bala
In times of war all military assets are subject to be taken out. Iranian navy, airforce, army all are fair game. Not understanding why this is a big deal.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 01:25
by SRajesh
Lisaji
The question : was he assured a safe passage around Southern Tip??
Or was he misguided??
Or was he stupid enough to ignore the warning??
Porbably once the dust settles and regime changes we will come to know to if the Government decides to release info??
Or we will still be playing guessing game.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 01:33
by Lisa
Ji, Who exactly would be offering him safe passage?

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 01:44
by SRajesh
Naval Drill ended on 25th.
he would not have departed on the same day right.
US attacked Iran on 28th.
Ship attacked on 4th March.
Assuming that the ship departed on 26th and then being ordered by IRGC for full steam ahead and return there would have been a three way conversation between the Host Country, Naval High Command of Iran and the Ship's Captain.
Its a big surface combat ship so there would not have been complete radio silence!!

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 01:47
by Lisa
Ji, Who exactly would be offering him safe passage?

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 02:20
by SRajesh
If we think Indian Ocean is our pond, and have aspirations of providing security in the IOC, then it should be us doing it isn’t it??
Or else why call it our Pond??

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 02:31
by Lisa
Ji,
1. India never offered anyone free passage
2. India has never said that the Indian Ocean is OUR pond - we afford security at our discretion and when it in our interests
3. For those who suggest that India has claimed title to IOC then please explain how the Americans operate out of Diego Garcia
4. Look up American Freedom Of Navigation passages in IOC
5. The Iranian captain was an Idiot

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 03:07
by drnayar


lack of visible missile plume, and survival of the aircrew strongly indicate the F-15Es were downed by air-to-air missiles, likely AIM-9X Sidewinders, rather than Patriot surface-to-air missiles or F-18C engagement, despite official reports [09:43]. The claim of a Patriot shoot-down is a deliberate misdirection or due to confusion in a complex environment [08:25].

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 03:58
by Cain Marko
SRajesh wrote: 05 Mar 2026 01:44 Naval Drill ended on 25th.
he would not have departed on the same day right.
US attacked Iran on 28th.
Ship attacked on 4th March.
Assuming that the ship departed on 26th and then being ordered by IRGC for full steam ahead and return there would have been a three way conversation between the Host Country, Naval High Command of Iran and the Ship's Captain.
Its a big surface combat ship so there would not have been complete radio silence!!
Capitane should've pretended or sabotaged his own ship and hung around docked claiming ship not working.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 04:15
by drnayar
Interesting that only UK is supporting US. The french fleet is in support of allied Arab states not US. here is what the Spanish are saying :

Spanish PM Pedro Sanchez responds to Trump :

"23 years ago, U.S govt dragged us into a war with Iraq, A war said to fight to eliminate Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons and bring democracy

But NO nuclear weapon was found in Iraq"

Here is what trump has to say " Spain said we can't use their bases. We could use their bases if we want. We could just fly in and use it. Nobody is gonna tell us not to use it."

Spoken like a true r@pist

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 09:32
by A_Gupta
There would be an issue only if the Iranian ship was attacked in Indian territorial waters.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 09:48
by uddu
Cain Marko wrote: 05 Mar 2026 03:58
SRajesh wrote: 05 Mar 2026 01:44 Naval Drill ended on 25th.
he would not have departed on the same day right.
US attacked Iran on 28th.
Ship attacked on 4th March.
Assuming that the ship departed on 26th and then being ordered by IRGC for full steam ahead and return there would have been a three way conversation between the Host Country, Naval High Command of Iran and the Ship's Captain.
Its a big surface combat ship so there would not have been complete radio silence!!
Capitane should've pretended or sabotaged his own ship and hung around docked claiming ship not working.
It was not a sabotage as initially thought as the U.S has admitted and released the footage. That never means that such an incident can be linked to India and Indians other than by Vested Interests. The Vested interests being The Congressis and the Leftists who don't know or don't acknowledge that the Indian Ocean 500 km away from Kanyakumari and the Indian Ocean in the Straight of Hormuz which is 700km away from Kutch are all one and the same. These are vested interests who want to make Indian name dragged in the mud thorough treachery. Also the Captain of the Iranian ship must have been tasked to target U.S vessels in and around it and probably looking for such targets. If they have found the U.S submarine and sunk it, what will be the reaction of the Oppostion? Same. That look India cannot protect U.S submarine in Indian ocean. Target is not about supporting U.S or Iran but targeting Indian power and prestige to blemish it.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 09:54
by uddu
SRajesh wrote: 05 Mar 2026 02:20 If we think Indian Ocean is our pond, and have aspirations of providing security in the IOC, then it should be us doing it isn’t it??
Or else why call it our Pond??
SRajesh ji, Indian Ocean is our pond. Even 700km away from Kutch, the Strait of Hormuz is part of the same pond as much as 500km from Kanyakumari. Does that mean we have to get involved with each and every act happening in the Indian Ocean which has nothing to do with us? We even let the Pakistani's to float in our pond.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 10:03
by uddu
I have a feeling that sooner or later, the Gulf countries will ask the Congressi and Leftist supporters to leave Gulf or even deny Visa for those who are in part of Congress or the left. They are not dumb enough not to notice the support for Khamenei coming from Indian leftists and Congressis. Even if Modi gets involved and asks for them to be accommodated, I foresee, them being denied Visas. These are very serious matters for the Gulf states since they are getting attacked by Iran, losing life, money and infrastructure meanwhile congresses and leftists are putting pressure on Modi to support Iran for votes.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 11:08
by Manish_P
A_Gupta wrote: 05 Mar 2026 09:32 There would be an issue only if the Iranian ship was attacked in Indian territorial waters.
+1

(or an indian ship was attacked, in any waters)

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 11:23
by chetak
uddu wrote: 04 Mar 2026 22:31 Knew that the Anti-national scums will come out to make it an Indian Issue.
This fool is saying is that there is some area called Sphere of Influence. So? If it's our sphere of Influence are we supposed to Sink the U.S Submarine because they have a fight with the Iranian ship? Where are these people coming from?

4000km or more, when war happens, every asset of that nation is a target for the other nation. If the Iranians have tracked the U.S Sub first, they must have made attempt to sink it with their Light weight torpedo. And what if U.S Submarine got sunk? Are we supposed to go to war with the Iranians for Sinking the U.S Sub in our Sphere of Influence? These people are insane and brain dead.

What Idea is the fool talking about? If we have idea of who and all are travelling though the Indian ocean are we supposed to torpedo the U.S ships? These fellas are far insane than Trump.

If he is that pro Iran, he must Thank Shriman Modi for inviting the Iranian Ship for the International Fleet Review that helped them to survive for one more day other than their fellow ships that got destroyed yesterday in Iranian waters. Also around 30 of them get to survive.

https://x.com/i/status/2029228993569014083
@JhaSanjay
BJP IS COWARDLY: A USA PUPPET

BJP’s defense that the Iranian warship that was torpedoed was in international waters reveals their unalloyed spinelessness.

Bro, there is something called “ sphere of influence”. It was in the Indian Ocean near Sri Lanka, just south of our borders, not very far from our territorial limits.

How could a US submarine convert a peaceful non-combative, non-war zone 4000 kilometers from the Persian Gulf into one of war by a bloody annihilation?

Where is the Modi government? Were they told by the US? Did they know? Did they not have any idea?

India needs answers.


uddu ji,


What stopped the captain of eyeraanian naval ship from petitioning, through the good offices of their embassy in dilli, for a prolonged stay of his warship in an Indian port, until the situation had normalized.

The GoI would have no logical reason to deny such a reasonable request, especially when the refusal would have been life threatening to the crew and the ship itself.

They would then, possibly have been moved to an civilian/commercial berth and their embassy in India would have looked after the ship and crew in terms of logistics, medical and any other services that were deemed necessary to keep the ship in working order. They would have contracted some ship chandlers or made a deal with local contractors to establish the supply chains needed to sustain the ship and its crew

Instead they chose to make the passage home, trusting to some fallacious argument that hinged on "international waters" Sadly torpedoes run well in any waters, international or territorial

no naval captain is ever oblivious to submarine threats, especially a captain who is commanding a man of war belonging to a nation that is at war with the amrikis.

s@nj@i jh@ speaketh, as usual, through orifices not usually enabled for speech but that is the wondrous ability developed by his esteemed political backers and passed on to vermin who parrot their ideological line

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 11:35
by uddu
chetak wrote: 05 Mar 2026 11:23
uddu wrote: 04 Mar 2026 22:31 Knew that the Anti-national scums will come out to make it an Indian Issue.
This fool is saying is that there is some area called Sphere of Influence. So? If it's our sphere of Influence are we supposed to Sink the U.S Submarine because they have a fight with the Iranian ship? Where are these people coming from?

4000km or more, when war happens, every asset of that nation is a target for the other nation. If the Iranians have tracked the U.S Sub first, they must have made attempt to sink it with their Light weight torpedo. And what if U.S Submarine got sunk? Are we supposed to go to war with the Iranians for Sinking the U.S Sub in our Sphere of Influence? These people are insane and brain dead.

What Idea is the fool talking about? If we have idea of who and all are travelling though the Indian ocean are we supposed to torpedo the U.S ships? These fellas are far insane than Trump.

If he is that pro Iran, he must Thank Shriman Modi for inviting the Iranian Ship for the International Fleet Review that helped them to survive for one more day other than their fellow ships that got destroyed yesterday in Iranian waters. Also around 30 of them get to survive.

https://x.com/i/status/2029228993569014083
@JhaSanjay
BJP IS COWARDLY: A USA PUPPET

BJP’s defense that the Iranian warship that was torpedoed was in international waters reveals their unalloyed spinelessness.

Bro, there is something called “ sphere of influence”. It was in the Indian Ocean near Sri Lanka, just south of our borders, not very far from our territorial limits.

How could a US submarine convert a peaceful non-combative, non-war zone 4000 kilometers from the Persian Gulf into one of war by a bloody annihilation?

Where is the Modi government? Were they told by the US? Did they know? Did they not have any idea?

India needs answers.


uddu ji,


What stopped the eyeraanian naval ship from a prolonged stay in an Indian port. They would have been moved to an civilian/commercial berth and their embassy in India would have looked after the ship and crew in terms of logistics, medical and any other services that were deemed necessary to keep the ship in working order.

Instead they chose to make the passage home trusting to some fallacious argument that hinged on "international waters"

no naval captain is oblivious to submarine threats, especially a captain who is commanding a man of war belonging to a nation that was at war with the amrikis.

s@nj@i jh@ speaketh, as usual, through orifices not usually enabled for speech but that is the wondrous ability developed by his esteemed political backers and passed on to vermin who parrot their ideological line
It is true that if the Iranian ship has asked for help from India and not moved out, it will be safe. Now was the Iranians, asking for that or they are duty bound to protect Iranian interests? The embassy and the regime must have wanted the ship in international waters on the lookout for targets rather than take shelter in the safety of India. Probably that has happened and he was left with no options. So I think that he and his crew is on the way to Iran, also will be on the lookout for targets to strike while in International waters. We can't call it as arrogance or bravado, that was what he enlisted to do. Just because the ship don't have the kind of sophisticated Anti-Sub tech onboard to detect the U.S sub, we can't say that they were not looking for subs and ships of their enemies and are innocent. Also being in International waters was actually a better opportunity for the Iranian ship rather than within the confines of the Strait of Hormuz. As I keep repeating, the ship survived one more day because it came to India.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 11:44
by bala
Day 5: Iranian Warship Sunk Near Sri Lanka - Has Iran Closed the Strait of Hormuz? • Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan

The Iran-US-Israel conflict has entered Day 5, and the war is expanding far beyond the Middle East. An Iranian naval frigate, IRIS Dena, has sunk off the coast of Sri Lanka, with over a hundred sailors reportedly missing after what officials suspect may have been a submarine attack.

At the same time, Iran has declared the Strait of Hormuz effectively closed, warning that any ship attempting to pass could be attacked. This narrow waterway carries about 20% of the world’s oil supply, making the crisis a potential trigger for a global energy shock.

Shipping traffic through the strait has dropped sharply, insurers are cancelling war-risk coverage, and naval forces are preparing to escort tankers through the region.

In this episode, Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan analyzes the military, strategic and geopolitical implications of these developments and answers the big questions:
• Who sank the Iranian warship near Sri Lanka?
• Has Iran actually closed the Strait of Hormuz or is it a bluff?
• Could this trigger a global oil and economic crisis?
• How might the US Navy and regional powers respond?
• What does this mean for India and the Indian Ocean region?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw3PucmKNyE

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 11:44
by ritesh
SRajesh wrote: 05 Mar 2026 01:25 Lisaji
The question : was he assured a safe passage around Southern Tip??
Or was he misguided??
Or was he stupid enough to ignore the warning??
Porbably once the dust settles and regime changes we will come to know to if the Government decides to release info??
Or we will still be playing guessing game.
Saar forgive me if I am wrong. But what other route would you have suggested the poor captain had taken for a safe passage? Through Palk strait?

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 11:48
by uddu
ritesh wrote: 05 Mar 2026 11:44
SRajesh wrote: 05 Mar 2026 01:25 Lisaji
The question : was he assured a safe passage around Southern Tip??
Or was he misguided??
Or was he stupid enough to ignore the warning??
Porbably once the dust settles and regime changes we will come to know to if the Government decides to release info??
Or we will still be playing guessing game.
Saar forgive me if I am wrong. But what other route would you have suggested the poor captain had taken for a safe passage? Through Palk strait?
Why we assume that he was poor and innocent. It is a fight between U.S and Iran. The Ship is in open waters and surely they are not looking for a safe passage as such. Will be in the lookout for subs, surface ships and even aircraft. The thing that happened here is that the U.S warship was silent enough from being detected by the Iranian technology available for the ship and got hit first and sank. If it is for the otherway around the torpedoes must have got the U.S Sub as they were coming to periscope depth. Also notice that there was no turns or such towards the sub by the ship meaning, the periscope depth monitoring was brief and the ship even did not notice that. It was a small ship with not much of technological advancement. Iran did not have a sophisticated Navy. It was a Navy for the sake of a Navy.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 12:02
by chetak
uddu wrote: 05 Mar 2026 11:35
chetak wrote: 05 Mar 2026 11:23



uddu ji,


What stopped the eyeraanian naval ship from a prolonged stay in an Indian port. They would have been moved to an civilian/commercial berth and their embassy in India would have looked after the ship and crew in terms of logistics, medical and any other services that were deemed necessary to keep the ship in working order.

Instead they chose to make the passage home trusting to some fallacious argument that hinged on "international waters"

no naval captain is oblivious to submarine threats, especially a captain who is commanding a man of war belonging to a nation that was at war with the amrikis.

s@nj@i jh@ speaketh, as usual, through orifices not usually enabled for speech but that is the wondrous ability developed by his esteemed political backers and passed on to vermin who parrot their ideological line
It is true that if the Iranian ship has asked for help from India and not moved out, it will be safe. Now was the Iranians, asking for that or they are duty bound to protect Iranian interests? The embassy and the regime must have wanted the ship in international waters on the lookout for targets rather than take shelter in the safety of India. Probably that has happened and he was left with no options. So I think that he and his crew is on the way to Iran, also will be on the lookout for targets to strike while in International waters. We can't call it as arrogance or bravado, that was what he enlisted to do. Just because the ship don't have the kind of sophisticated Anti-Sub tech onboard to detect the U.S sub, we can't say that they were not looking for subs and ships of their enemies and are innocent. Also being in International waters was actually a better opportunity for the Iranian ship rather than within the confines of the Strait of Hormuz. As I keep repeating, the ship survived one more day because it came to India.


uddu ji,

If the eyeraanians purposely put their ship in harms way, they certainly got what was coming to them.

No ifs and buts

The amrikis were in the know about the ship's departure, its intended course, speed and position monitored via live satellite feed. There is no dearth of amriki supporters in vishakapatnam, as lakhs of their relatives are US citizens.

all the amrikis had to do was to wait at some intended ambush spot, then, like some one said a few pages ago, kaboom and mushroom.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 12:03
by Aditya_V
Wow Pakis, BD, Indian INC, INDI alliance supporters desperate to prove India losses.

My main concern is hopefully we have a string Oil rig type structures along our coast with Active Passive Sonars transmitting live Data of Sub Movements.

That's probably how we detect entry of PLAN subs in the Indian Ocean arena, it cant be P-8I dropping Sonabuoys at random and detecting these subs.

The Iranian Warship decided not to take Asylum with us and wanted to return to the Warzone, so they made a conscious decision along with the Risks that entailed.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 12:15
by uddu
The Iranian with 9 lives.
IRGC Quds Force Commander Esmail Ghaani arrested in Iran for being a Mossad spy


The commander who keeps surviving: Mystery deepens around Iran's Qaani and the spy question
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/me ... -question/
Unverified claims circulating online that he has been detained, or even executed, on suspicion of spying for Israel
March 04, 2026
Esmail Qaani has spent the past two years accumulating a reputation for his extraordinary ability to walk away alive while everyone around him dies.

After claims he died, reports now say Iran’s Quds Force chief alive but under arrest
https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-cla ... er-arrest/
11 October 2024, 11:23 am
Esmail Qaani is rumored to be suspected of involvement in intel breach that allowed Israel to devastate Hezbollah; reportedly had heart attack during investigation

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 12:16
by ritesh
uddu wrote: 05 Mar 2026 11:48
ritesh wrote: 05 Mar 2026 11:44
Saar forgive me if I am wrong. But what other route would you have suggested the poor captain had taken for a safe passage? Through Palk strait?
Why we assume that he was poor and innocent. It is a fight between U.S and Iran. The Ship is in open waters and surely they are not looking for a safe passage as such. Will be in the lookout for subs, surface ships and even aircraft. The thing that happened here is that the U.S warship was silent enough from being detected by the Iranian technology available for the ship and got hit first and sank. If it is for the otherway around the torpedoes must have got the U.S Sub as they were coming to periscope depth. Also notice that there was no turns or such towards the sub by the ship meaning, the periscope depth monitoring was brief and the ship even did not notice that. It was a small ship with not much of technological advancement. Iran did not have a sophisticated Navy. It was a Navy for the sake of a Navy.
Uddu ji, can below be corroborated...
Jayesh Mehta
Was invited by India when there was no war on the horizon.
Left India on 26th February i.e. 2 days before the war commenced..
Torpedoed and sunk in the early morning of 4th March..6 days after the Ship left the Indian vessel..
Where was it for 6 days?
https://x.com/JMehta65/status/2029254695987101755

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 12:45
by uddu
Chetak ji, the tracking and monitoring has improved by leaps and bounds today rather than the world war type of Japs calling the barber across the Pearl Harbor to gain intelligence on ships at port. The U.S do have a lot of submarines and large number of them are deployed across the world's oceans. Out of around 49 or so attack subs, around 30 may be in deployment, Around 12 such subs are deployment in Pacific. One could expect around 6 or so in the Indian ocean as well. Add to that large number of Ships as well. Add to that satellite tracking. Iranian ship having some surface capability, they choose to engage it with Submarine. Also not necessary that the submarine, that tracked it leaving was the submarine that engaged it. The SIGINT must be shared across various ships and subs across. and when it came within reach of another submarine in wait, it got ambushed. Also the risk for submarine was minimal as there was no search for it by the enemy flotilla including aerial search etc. Full advantage was for the U.S sub. or it could all be done by a single submarine tracking and following the ship, but was a little riskier strategy. Since it took many days from the time it left port, the chance of it being ambushed by a waiting submarine is more. One more thing that can be noticed is the submarine taking risk and coming to periscope depth. The advantage being avoiding wrong targeting of ships. Imagine hitting a warship from a friendly country by mistake. Second is the value of propaganda of the kill being published.

U.S. submarine bases in the Pacific
https://www.newsweek.com/map-us-nuclear ... ns-2132233

https://usna.edu/SubmarineForce/where/deployment.php
Deployment
6 month deployment for a fast-attack or guided missile submarine (SSN/SSGN)

These are Fleet deployment but dont' show individual ships and surely not submarines.
USNI News Fleet and Marine Tracker: March 2, 2026
https://news.usni.org/2026/03/02/usni-n ... rch-2-2026
Image
In addition to these major formations, not shown are others serving in submarines, individual surface ships, aircraft squadrons, SEALs, Special Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Forces, Seabees, EOD Mobile Units and more throughout the globe.

Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Posted: 05 Mar 2026 14:33
by SRajesh
1. Military Operations in an EEZ During War
In wartime, naval forces of belligerent states may operate in another country’s EEZ.
This can include:
Naval patrols
Surveillance and intelligence gathering
Naval combat operations against enemy vessels
The coastal state cannot automatically prohibit these operations, because the EEZ preserves freedom of navigation and other lawful uses of the sea.
2. Limits: Neutral Coastal State Rights
If the coastal state is neutral in the conflict, it still retains certain rights in its EEZ.
A neutral coastal state may:
Protect its economic resources (e.g., fisheries, offshore platforms)
Prevent military activities that directly threaten those resources
Ensure its EEZ is not used in ways that violate neutrality
However, the coastal state cannot treat the EEZ like territorial waters and completely ban military activity.
3. Combat Between Foreign Warships in an EEZ
If two foreign warships fight each other inside a coastal state’s EEZ, the coastal state generally:
May:
Protest diplomatically
Take measures to protect offshore infrastructure
Conduct search and rescue if ships are damaged
Investigate environmental damage
Usually may not:
Stop the combat directly
Enforce neutrality as strictly as in territorial waters
Arrest belligerent warships
These practices are reflected in the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, a widely used guide to naval warfare law.
4. Absolute Protection Zone: Territorial Waters
The situation is very different inside the territorial sea (within 12 nautical miles).
There:
The coastal state has full sovereignty
Belligerent warships generally cannot fight there
The neutral state may enforce neutrality and expel or intern ships
The ship was in Sri Lankan EEZ.
The distance between Vishakapatnam and Galle 720 Nautical Miles.
Top Speed of Iris Dena 30 knots.
If it was travelling top speed, it would have taken just one day to reach Galle.
At 25 knots 28 hours.to 29 hours
At 15 knots 2 days.
Naval ships especially destroyers do cruising around 15-18 knots, OPERATIONAL TRANSIT 18-22 KNOTS,
So at Operational speed as the country in conflict would have taken 1.5 days to 2 days max.
So the ship left on 27th ( lets say).
Should have reached Galle in two days.
So what was the ship doing in Indian Ocean for 4 - 5 days loitering.
As per protocol for International Fleet Review: ships can carry weapons and ammunition, but whilst in the Host Country Harbour have to comply with the Harbour Masters orders on handling the weapons and ammunition!!
All very tasty reading!!