Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 29 Dec 2013 23:45

bhargava wrote:Gossipguru uvaacha

What will happen to the BJP?

Can Modi’s magic wane? A few days ago, a prominent survey agency conducted a people’s opinion survey in six states and the results are shocking – in Bihar, where BJP’s clean sweep was being taken for granted, the party has shrunk to a mere 12-14 Lok Sabha seats. In Bihar, Lalu, Congress, Ramvilas and Tariq’s coalition seems to be getting nearly two dozen seats. Nitish’s JD (U) might get only three seats. In Jharkhand, too, the BJP is facing trouble protecting its existing number of seats and it might be limited to four seats there. In Delhi, AAP is ahead in the race in five of the seven seats. There is also a direct face off between the Congress and AAP in Haryana, too. In Mumbai alone, AAP’s seats have reached a 17 per cent share. This percentage may increase in the days to come. Which means Kejriwal has the power to sabotage Modi’s dreams.

If this really happens, kudos to the forces of destruction for making Indians fall for it. Pulling hairs of BJP did this badly or that badly, Democracy is GOD is all bs. The forces (not just congress and to know exactly what NVS articles is the best) succeeded in 2004, 2009 by creating a bunch of Manchurian parties. They are having a great party now with centrality. Again it is the educated India will fail the nation and there is no point in blaming illiterate or casteistic Indian.

Democracy is never a GOD and in fact most of the countries are divided because of democracy. Examples - entire east Europe, Soviet Union, and latest being Indonesia.

But let us hope for the best. Based on latest surveys from centerofright BJP is doing pretty good even in outer Delhi, Jat belt etc.

AAP supporting some Nuke activists in TN is only going to cut either DMK or AIDMK and nothing more than that. AAP will not defeat BJP. It will parties like MNS, JVM etc will defeat BJP. A bunch of non-voters who used to sit at home and not vote are the ones who will vote for AAP. To me in spite of so much breast beating they will not be the reason for BJP losing.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 30 Dec 2013 00:01

One thing I have started to do when dealing with "secularized" Indians is to confront their double standards, the cleanest saffron syndrome.

Some of the issues I have bought up are:

Corruption: The 20Cr of Yeddiruppa is national highlight but how many are aware of the 26000 crore irrigation scam in Maharashtra.

Deaths: The CPIM killed about 50K people in political murders in W.Bengal during their 30 year rule. Most Indians are just not aware of it. I bring it up to highlight how the 1K deaths in 2002, get 1000x air-time compared to the 50K in WB. Trying to hit home the point on how the Left-Cong control the narrative. I have also bought up the issue of lack of coverage of the murders of workers of Hindu orgs in TN/Kerala.

The 30 days of February 2002 of course hits home.

kumarn · Post by **kumarn** » 30 Dec 2013 00:13

AAP is going to hurt real bad! My friends "want" to believe that "this time it is different" and they are arguing to "leave aside rationality" and hope! This is the class that would fulminate on SM and in drawing rooms but would never vote. But have voted this time and are determined to vote again in 2014. I think AAP is going to make a dent into BJP fortunes in the urban seats which have the Yippie crowd.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 30 Dec 2013 00:27

VikramS wrote:One thing I have started to do when dealing with "secularized" Indians is to confront their double standards, the cleanest saffron syndrome.

Some of the issues I have bought up are:

Corruption: The 20Cr of Yeddiruppa is national highlight but how many are aware of the 26000 crore irrigation scam in Maharashtra.

Deaths: The CPIM killed about 50K people in political murders in W.Bengal during their 30 year rule. Most Indians are just not aware of it. I bring it up to highlight how the 1K deaths in 2002, get 1000x air-time compared to the 50K in WB. Trying to hit home the point on how the Left-Cong control the narrative. I have also bought up the issue of lack of coverage of the murders of workers of Hindu orgs in TN/Kerala.

The 30 days of February 2002 of course hits home.

a nitpick. The popular number for irrigation scam amount is 70k crores.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 30 Dec 2013 00:58

Folks - this is just my anecdotal experience, so YMMW. My best experience with converting people to NaMo is with the line that a vote for NaMo is a vote for stability and growth, and every vote against him will increase instability. Point out that voting AAP simply means that they are increasing instability, and point out the costs of government paralysis. Voting AAP will essentially mean that they will be voting for a khichdi coalition that will be unable to govern, with the consequent costs to India. So, NaMo represents the best choice for the country. It worked with my old IISc buddies who were wavering, so it may work for you.

arindam · Post by **arindam** » 30 Dec 2013 01:10

nageshks wrote:Folks - this is just my anecdotal experience, so YMMW. My best experience with converting people to NaMo is with the line that a vote for NaMo is a vote for stability and growth, and every vote against him will increase instability. Point out that voting AAP simply means that they are increasing instability, and point out the costs of government paralysis. Voting AAP will essentially mean that they will be voting for a khichdi coalition that will be unable to govern, with the consequent costs to India. So, NaMo represents the best choice for the country. It worked with my old IISc buddies who were wavering, so it may work for you.

++ This is the same argument I try and has worked in SM/friends' circle. Instead of blind attack and pointing out several different flaws of AK, try to convince them about the best possible PM candidate for this election (2014). The message is growth and stability and not hung parliament or fractured coalition like dilli.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 30 Dec 2013 01:16

prahaar wrote: One thing I have started to do when dealing with "secularized" Indians is to confront their double standards, the cleanest saffron syndrome.

Some of the issues I have bought up are:

Corruption: The 20Cr of Yeddiruppa is national highlight but how many are aware of the 26000 crore irrigation scam in Maharashtra.

Deaths: The CPIM killed about 50K people in political murders in W.Bengal during their 30 year rule. Most Indians are just not aware of it. I bring it up to highlight how the 1K deaths in 2002, get 1000x air-time compared to the 50K in WB. Trying to hit home the point on how the Left-Cong control the narrative. I have also bought up the issue of lack of coverage of the murders of workers of Hindu orgs in TN/Kerala.

The 30 days of February 2002 of course hits home.
The foriegn money in Media is coming from TSP and EJ groups in west.
Their Target - image of BJP and anybody who opposes them.

Why are the Indian playing the game of the foreign countries and foriegn groups

a nitpick. The popular number for irrigation scam amount is 70k crores.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 30 Dec 2013 01:17

prahaar wrote: One thing I have started to do when dealing with "secularized" Indians is to confront their double standards, the cleanest saffron syndrome.

Some of the issues I have bought up are:

Corruption: The 20Cr of Yeddiruppa is national highlight but how many are aware of the 26000 crore irrigation scam in Maharashtra.

Deaths: The CPIM killed about 50K people in political murders in W.Bengal during their 30 year rule. Most Indians are just not aware of it. I bring it up to highlight how the 1K deaths in 2002, get 1000x air-time compared to the 50K in WB. Trying to hit home the point on how the Left-Cong control the narrative. I have also bought up the issue of lack of coverage of the murders of workers of Hindu orgs in TN/Kerala.

The 30 days of February 2002 of course hits home.

The foriegn money in Media is coming from TSP and EJ groups in west.
Their Target - image of BJP and anybody who opposes them.

Why are the Indian playing the game of the foreign countries and foriegn groups

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 30 Dec 2013 02:15

ravi_g wrote:Prashant Bhushan assures AAP's support to agitation against Kudankulam nuclear plant

These guys will cause irreparable damage if they are not shunted out of politics come election time. Even with a full BJP majority in Parliament, these people will cause anarchy in the country with full support of MSM and other outsiders. Does anyone need any more proof that AAP is far from a benign, idealistic, newcomer that ultimately means well for India? They must be taken seriously and stopped with extreme prejudice.

Expect full flow of money and "experts" into India from abroad between now and elections with the center looking the other way. IMO, a full scale color revolution is under way. Andy Grove's advice: Only the Paranoid Survive. And this is going to be an all-out war by the looks of it.

Rishirishi · Post by **Rishirishi** » 30 Dec 2013 06:56

Victor wrote:
ravi_g wrote:Prashant Bhushan assures AAP's support to agitation against Kudankulam nuclear plant
These guys will cause irreparable damage if they are not shunted out of politics come election time. Even with a full BJP majority in Parliament, these people will cause anarchy in the country with full support of MSM and other outsiders. Does anyone need any more proof that AAP is far from a benign, idealistic, newcomer that ultimately means well for India? They must be taken seriously and stopped with extreme prejudice.

Expect full flow of money and "experts" into India from abroad between now and elections with the center looking the other way. IMO, a full scale color revolution is under way. Andy Grove's advice: Only the Paranoid Survive. And this is going to be an all-out war by the looks of it.

Dont think they are stupid. AAP seems to be working with the baurocrats. They are very focussed in crating systems that tackle corruption.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2013 07:03

Kumar vishwas has now challenged modi to a direct ls fight.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 30 Dec 2013 07:15

Singha wrote:Kumar vishwas has now challenged modi to a direct ls fight.

is this guy smoking pot??

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 30 Dec 2013 07:28

As usual MJ Akbar makes a few good points [url]http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... -to-rescue[/quote]

By February we will know whether Kejriwal has been able to use Congress, or vice versa. It might suit both if Kejriwal loses Congress support because he has filed corruption cases. Kejriwal would be rid of government, and Congress would be rid of Kejriwal. A wounded Kejriwal could then be unleashed on the general election. In the meantime, all Modi has to do is wait, and keep quiet. If BJP had won Delhi, he would have no answers on electricity rates, water or crime. Delhi’s water comes from Congress-ruled Haryana; electricity from corporations, who are even less generous; and the police is run by the Centre. Some battles are better lost.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 30 Dec 2013 09:42

deleted from here moved to State Elections thread in compliance.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2013 11:26

As a matter of admin convenience pls take aap issues to the elections thread and leave this thread to namo and dynasty only.
else same type of talk why have two threads.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 30 Dec 2013 12:17

Singha wrote:As a matter of admin convenience pls take aap issues to the elections thread and leave this thread to namo and dynasty only.
else same type of talk why have two threads.

Singha saar,

when this thread was started there were only two contrasting ideas of India. Now there are ostensibly three. So I would suggest that beside Dynasty and Modi, one includes AAP too in this thread. Anyway Dynasty is not really offering much of an ideological opposition to Modi.

Of course discussion about AAP like that of any other party w.r.t. elections and their chances in it, should be discussed in the Elections thread.

JMTs.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 30 Dec 2013 12:48

Is this the guy you are all worried about??

Just two days in office and he already has the runs.

Delhi CM Kejriwal unwell, question mark over decision on free water

Newly elected Delhi chief minister Arvind Kejriwal is unwell and will not be able to attend office, he tweeted on Monday, his third day as chief minister. "Running 102 fever since yesterday. Severe loose motions. Sad that I won't be able to attend office today," he tweeted in the morning.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2013 13:00

ok RajeshA, it was just a suggestion for better focus , not a diktat. what you say makes sense. purely electoral AAP issues can be taken to the other thread, while CT/gossip/andar ki baat here.

kejriwal it seems transferred 9 high ranking officers on his first day in office.

would be interesting to know the deal behind each case..just a general purge of old regime loyalists or something else. looks like some are shunted out and some are shunted in to more powerful posts.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/kejriwal-shi ... 3-244.html

The nine transferred bureaucrats included the chief of Delhi Jal Board Debashree Mukherjee. The others to be transferred are Power Secretary RK Verma, who is also the CMD of Delhi Transco Ltd and Chairman of Pragati Power Corporation Ltd, who has been shifted as the Principal Secretary of Higher Education. He will also hold charge as the Principal Secretary, Training and Technical Education.

Transport Secretary Puneet Goel has been transferred as the Power Secretary. The Principal Secretary-cum-Commissioner in the Development Department Arvind Ray will hold additional charge in the transport department.

Delhi Finance Secretary MM Kutty, who was also Principal Secretary to former chief minister Sheila Dikshit, has been transferred as Principal Secretary in the Social Welfare and Women and Child Development department.

Home Secretary Archana Arora has been given additional charge of Finance Department.

Higher Education Secretary Rajendra Kumar has been made Secretary to the chief minister.

After a Cabinet meeting, the Chief Minister had promised that there will be no witch-hunt against officials who work honestly and in the people's interest.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 30 Dec 2013 13:12

chetak wrote:
Newly elected Delhi chief minister Arvind Kejriwal is unwell and will not be able to attend office, he tweeted on Monday, his third day as chief minister. "Running 102 fever since yesterday. Severe loose motions. Sad that I won't be able to attend office today," he tweeted in the morning.

Pehle Shouchalaya later dilli ka mantralaya

Even E coli in shudh dilli ka paani has seen through Kejri's ponzi paani scheme

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 30 Dec 2013 13:42

Mahendra wrote:
Newly elected Delhi chief minister Arvind Kejriwal is unwell and will not be able to attend office, he tweeted on Monday, his third day as chief minister. "Running 102 fever since yesterday. Severe loose motions. Sad that I won't be able to attend office today," he tweeted in the morning.
Pehle Shouchalaya later dilli ka mantralaya

Even E coli in shudh dilli ka paani has seen through Kejri's ponzi paani scheme

This is too good!

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 30 Dec 2013 14:13

IMO with all media spotlights focused on farji, he will try to do some funny dramabaazi (ala Nayak movie) soon and eventually fall flat on his face. He has actually started doing that. He asked delhites to wait for 10 days to see changes in "delivery system" (another ripoff from NM). Why would any CM do it for his own good? Theoretically he has got full 5 years to do that!! The more I see his moves the more I find him dangerous to be anywhere in the power position. His eyes are bigger than his stomach, ate more than he can digest. No wonder he has loose motion. I bet he has no clues about what he is actually going to do with the CMship. Just plant some idiot advisers around him and he will be done and dusted. If not bjp, congis would happily do that at least after 2014 LS elections.

NM after becoming CM simply kept mum and observed the system for a year. Once he had absorbed it wholly he started making his own moves. By that time he had figured out the types of people around him and knew whom to trust and whom to use where. AK-47 is completely opposite. He is destined to be bulldozed by the delhi babus.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Dec 2013 15:10

AAP and BJP are eyeing the same lunch-box. Modi should worry.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 30 Dec 2013 15:17

kapilrdave wrote:IMO with all media spotlights focused on farji, he will try to do some funny dramabaazi (ala Nayak movie) soon and eventually fall flat on his face. He has actually started doing that. He asked delhites to wait for 10 days to see changes in "delivery system" (another ripoff from NM). Why would any CM do it for his own good? Theoretically he has got full 5 years to do that!! The more I see his moves the more I find him dangerous to be anywhere in the power position. His eyes are bigger than his stomach, ate more than he can digest. No wonder he has loose motion. I bet he has no clues about what he is actually going to do with the CMship. Just plant some idiot advisers around him and he will be done and dusted. If not bjp, congis would happily do that at least after 2014 LS elections.

NM after becoming CM simply kept mum and observed the system for a year. Once he had absorbed it wholly he started making his own moves. By that time he had figured out the types of people around him and knew whom to trust and whom to use where. AK-47 is completely opposite. He is destined to be bulldozed by the delhi babus.

He is in a 10 day hurry instead of solid long term 5 year work, because he can't keep his eyes off the May 2014 polls now.
He might show few short term gains for that purpose and the MSM would cuddle with them 24x7. Public display of affection ?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 30 Dec 2013 15:32

Published on Dec 30, 2013
By Rachita Prasad
Government has no authority to reduce power tariffs: DERC

AAP made 3 points
1) Jan Lokpal by Dec 29. Now says not possible.
2) Electricity bills cut by 50%. Not possible without subsidies coming from taxes
3) 700 liter free water. ???

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 30 Dec 2013 15:37

3) 700 liter free water. ???

100+ crore loss to govt every day, and the guy who raised the issue has been booted

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2013 15:47

CM has a new issue on the table now.

Mumbai: The employees of the grounded Kingfisher Airlines, who have not been paid their salaries for the past 17 months, on Sunday said they will seek help from Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal in getting their dues.
"In the past, we have requested to both the Congress and the BJP to intervene in the issue. But none of them did come to our help. We will now approach Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal and seek his help in getting our dues cleared," a Delhi-based Kingfisher Airlines employee said.
He said a section of employees from Delhi will soon seek an appointment with Kejriwal to apprise him of the "trauma, agony and the financial hardship" that around 2,000 unpaid employees are going through for almost a year and a half.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 30 Dec 2013 15:48

Virendra wrote: He is in a 10 day hurry instead of solid long term 5 year work, because he can't keep his eyes off the May 2014 polls now.
He might show few short term gains for that purpose and the MSM would cuddle with them 24x7. Public display of affection ?

That's the problem. He has just had an unexpected show in delhi and has earned CMship somehow. Still he has no idea when and how he is going to fulfill the promises he made to the voters. Yet he wants to focus on another election rather than consolidating his government which will lay a strong foundation of his party at least in delhi. Guess he is too happy to do the job of spoiler for his masters rather than actually running a party. Irrespective of his ideology, this is huge betrayal of delhi voters by farji. They voted him for working for themselves but he is doing everything else other than focusing on governing delhi. That's the reason I said his eyes are bigger than his stomach.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 30 Dec 2013 16:09

RajeshA wrote:Published on Dec 30, 2013
By Rachita Prasad
Government has no authority to reduce power tariffs: DERC

AAP made 3 points
1) Jan Lokpal by Dec 29. Now says not possible.
2) Electricity bills cut by 50%. Not possible without subsidies coming from taxes
3) 700 liter free water. ???

So now Kejri will coerce DERC?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 30 Dec 2013 16:20

Idea!

Mainstream Media is going to carry the comparison from now on everyday. They will be saying Arvind Kejriwal is fresh wind, while Narendra Modi is the same old system guy. Arvind Kejriwal is clean, while Narendra Modi has had dubious dealings xyz and lets people like Yeddyurappa in into BJP.

So basically MSM is going to blow up Kejriwal to the same size of NaMo, and make it look like a duel of the giants, even though there is little Kejri has to show for himself. Of course, neither NaMo nor Kejriwal would be attacking each other much as former would be attacking Congress and Kejriwal would be attacking Congress-BJP system. But one would see their supporters going ever more at each other.

AAP wants to be pitted against BJP to build itself as the national alternative to BJP. This thing would continue past 2014.

So there still are many many young people out there, first time voters, who would be choosing to go either the AAP way or the Modi way. AAP promises both activist badge as well as Yuppie entertainment. Modi offers substance. But substance and presentation at the level of young impressionable minds is really same.

So Modi would have to build up a presence on campuses around the country asap.

But I would urge all posters here to formulate the differences between NaMo and Kejriwal, in a way which would help Indian youth make up their minds, which person to go with. We can then collect all these differences and put up on a blog. Format suggestion is:

Message Title: Narendra Modi vs Arvind Kejriwal
Message Content: The difference in short crypt language. Examples of the manifestation of this difference. Everything as short as possible.

Thank you!

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 30 Dec 2013 16:21

Delhi CM gives Rs.1 crore compensation to family of constable killed by liquor mafia
While I have no issues with the family receiving a good amount as compensation the streak of populism in Kejriwal's policies makes me uneasy.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 30 Dec 2013 16:26

Paging atri garu...

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 30 Dec 2013 16:44

Narendra Modi Vs. Arvind Kejrival
NAMO stands for empowerment and freedom - 24X7 paid electricity, 24X7 paid water and jobs to pay for services
AK stands for appeasement and enslavement - 2h free water, 4h free electricity, 20h load shedding and no jobs

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2013 16:51

ambition dictates he run with the momentum and try to build a successful AAP org and campaign across the country.
but all his prominent leaders seem to be already in delhi cabinet barring a few like vishwas and bhushan who are in jedi advisory council. he himself needs to get busy being the CM of a large and complex UT like delhi.

the stage seems set for various Congis in urban metro areas to make a quiet beeline for AAP and bring along their ground level network and funding into the mix...a form of inorganic growth by desertion just as guerilla revolutionary armies generally get bigger on the march from converts or deserters. another example would be the arab muslim army surging out of the peninsula on foot with nothing more than swords and crude spears and gradually getting more camels, horses and better weapons from the greek kingdoms, baghdad and turkic areas they overran. they had the typical bedouin skill of being highly mobile and able to bypass static defences and appear at various points across the desert to give a determined fight. they also cut off the logisitics of isolated static outposts in a guerilla version of deep-battle concept. KJ being the Madhi leading his troops and achieving miraculous feats is the vision here

I am sure the rajmata would NOT mind this - congis are anyways going to get a drubbing in most urban metros, so why not latch on to be a better prospect and damage the bjp tally...spread anarchy and FUD far and wide with 100s of pinprick swarm attacks.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 30 Dec 2013 17:00

Dilbu wrote:Delhi CM gives Rs.1 crore compensation to family of constable killed by liquor mafia
While I have no issues with the family receiving a good amount as compensation the streak of populism in Kejriwal's policies makes me uneasy.

I am confujed. If police department is under Central Govt, how come Delhi CM declare muaavja? Now Inspector Sharma's family should also ask for similar muaavja

arindam · Post by **arindam** » 30 Dec 2013 17:04

Beginning of Nehruvian socialism 2.0

Just in from NDTV breaking news: 20 Kiloliters of free water per month from Jan 1. Decision to be reviewed after 3 months.

NDTV is going gaga with the big red flashing headline "AAP keeps promise".

AAP government gives 20 kilo litre free water per connection in Delhi

Keeping up its pre-poll promise, the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) government on Monday announced that 20 kilo litre of free water will be supplied per month to all the domestic consumers with functional meter from January 1. Delhi Jal Board CEO Vijay Kumar that 20 kilo litre of water will be free of cost from January 1 and those whose consumption is beyond the above limit will be charged for the entire usage.

Who would explain to these junta, the bold part is the most problematic of all. It would breed further corruption.

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 30 Dec 2013 17:07

Narendra Modi Vs. Arvind Kejrival

AK is soft. He cannot confront powerful dark forces such as jehadis, Chinese, pakis, Bangladeshi. In the name of peace he will appease and retreat just like UPA and offer the other cheek to be slapped

NAMO is strong. He has the strength to take head on the dark forces of jehadis, Chinese and pakis. The dark forces are afraid of him.

chandrasekaran · Post by **chandrasekaran** » 30 Dec 2013 17:12

Dilbu wrote:Delhi CM gives Rs.1 crore compensation to family of constable killed by liquor mafia
While I have no issues with the family receiving a good amount as compensation the streak of populism in Kejriwal's policies makes me uneasy.

No one would dare ask kejriwal what plans he has to break the mafia or if he will extend the same courtesy to Mohan Chand Sharma's family (Batla)!! Some people are plain lucky, they can pretty much get away with whatever they do. JJ, MMS and this guy now tops my list!

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 30 Dec 2013 17:31

subhamoy.das wrote:NAMO stands for empowerment and freedom - 24X7 paid electricity, 24X7 paid water and jobs to pay for services
AK stands for appeasement and enslavement - 2h free water, 4h free electricity, 20h load shedding and no jobs

It seems AK is promoting the politics of scarcity with more flair than SG/RG/NAC ever managed to do. I guess this debate is pertinent to the thread since it discusses contrasting ideas of India, where Swava-lamban versus Parava-lamban. I guess this parava-lamban school needs to get stronger in India before the educated elites realize what they are supporting.

subhamoy.das · Post by **subhamoy.das** » 30 Dec 2013 17:34

There are two important things. First only the existing customers - folks with water meters - will be receiving this new payment model. Second it is not free at all. It is just a new payment model. It is in fact a dangerous payment model which will keep the consumers on their edge. They will have to keep a constant eye on their meter to see if they are close to the 20kL mark and if yes then they will have to stop the usage of water for the rest of the month. If they wanted to give free then they should have charged only for the excess of 20kl. PAAP will come under severe criticism on their first decision unless 20kl is enough for a family of 4 in a month.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2013 17:46

vishwas says he will contest LS from wherever Rahul gandhi contests..and if it be amethi he is most willing.