Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 2011

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 03:52

Zee News
'Two-front war against India possible'
Zee News - ‎Oct 23, 2011‎
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/two ... 38056.html
In 1950, Pakistan became one of the first countries to recognise the People's Republic of China. The ties between China and Pakistan continued to grow after that, for which the credit goes to India. Military, technical, or economic,

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 25 Oct 2011 05:13

Small Snake and Big Snake , Inka Dance Dekh

TTP’s Pakistan strategy

THE Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is currently in a better position than ever to settle scores with Pakistan and prevent Afghanistan and Pakistan from working out their trust deficit. After a couple of years in hibernation, the second tier of the TTP command has increased its contact with the media. Confidently, they refer to a new phase of the fight in the form of organised border incursions against security forces.In a recent telephonic conversation with journalists, in response to the APC proposal to involve the Taliban in dialogue, TTP deputy chief Faqir Mohammad ruled out the possibility, saying: “Pakistan is not a trustworthy country.”Why do the militants not listen to Pakistan anymore and what are the factors in play behind the recent surge in cross-border attacks? The problem began a couple of years ago when intensified military operations left the TTP leadership little room in which to organise inland attacks from their bases in Fata.Following in the footprints of the Swat Taliban, militants from the Bajaur Agency were joined by hundreds of others from Waziristan; they grouped together to occupy the new strategic location in the bordering Afghan provinces of Nuristan and Kunar.Of late, though, security forces have been called in. Observers say it is too late to expect a quick end to the issue but some analysts disagree. They believe that the militants` new strategy is primarily designed to lure troops to a more threatening front. According to one terrorism expert, for a terror organisation dependent on ransom and selling services to regional stakeholders, the strategically important and terror-hardened demography of Nuristan is ideal for long-term cross-border engagement.Surprisingly, Pakistan blamed Nato for supporting the TTP in launching the Aug 27 attack in Chitral in which 31 of its troops were killed. It is hard to believe that one ally would provide succour to a deadly militant organisation against another. Yet eyewitness accounts are revealing.
When I recently visited the scene of the attack, hardly anyone disputed the Nato air cover for the TTP incursion. When I cast doubt on their judgment by calling air reconnaissance a routine affair, a man called Azizullah — standing a stone`s throw away from the Afghan border — said angrily: “We live here and can differentiate between routine Nato flights and extraordinary air movement.”Soon afterwards, when two successive attacks rocked Kabul city and a suicide bomber killed the ex-Afghan president Burhanuddin Rabbani, it helped some to figure out the who`s who in the deadly `ghost war`. Top US officials, in particular, translated the Kabul attacks into a tit-for-tat response from the allegedly Pakistan-backed Haqqani network.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 05:46

IAF grounds four officers for violating Pak airspace‎
The News International - 1 hour ago
ISLAMABAD: The Indian Air Force (IAF) has grounded all its four officers who deified Pakistan airspace on their military chopper and landed in Pak

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 05:50

Pak to face dire consequence if fail to contain terrorists, warns Hillary
South Asian News Agency (SANA) ⋅ October 24, 2011 ⋅ Share/Save
http://www.sananews.net/english/2011/10 ... s-hillary/
WASHINGTON, (SANA): United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said that Pakistan will face “dire consequences” if it fails to contain terrorists operating from its soil.

She made this statement in an interview with Bloomberg news two days after she visited Islamabad, adding that Pakistan requires help from the US and Afghanistan to battle militancy.

She added that the US administration does not want Pakistan to overtly launch a military offensive against the banned outfits and forces that attack US and Afghan forces, but carry out clandestine actions.

There are “different ways of fighting besides overt military action,” she said.

She said that she stressed Pakistan to share intelligence with the US forces station in Afghanistan to foil attacks.

She also said that better synchronization might curtail incidents like the attack on the American Embassy in Kabul meanwhile she admired the cooperation of Pakistan for operation against Al-Qaeda.

In an interview with another US TV, she said that US and Pakistan would work together for peace and security in Afghanistan as she also recognized the need to stem militants’ use of safe havens on the Afghan side for attacks against Pakistan.

Clinton, who led a high-level delegation including General Dampse, David Petraeus for openly talked with top Pakistani political and military leaders.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 25 Oct 2011 05:52

from B. Raman:

This speaks highly of Gen Kayani as a military professional.

His positive and cool reflexes as reflected during the incident need to be noted, acknowledged and hailed by India.

One is reminded that during the crisis in Indo-Pakistan relations after the terrorist attack on the Indian Parliament in December 2001, Gen Kayani was the Director-General of Military Operations in Rawalpindi.

It was reported that the US was highly impressed by the cool manner in which he handled the crisis. He has shown a similar cool temperament this Sunday.

This is the time for us to consider inviting Gen Kayani to visit India.

prabhu, aap mahaan hain, tussi great ho.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Oct 2011 05:54

ACM SK Mehra saab used to say" Trouble with desh is those who know are silent, and those who shouldn't speak are vocal!"

Fact that IAF suspended the four officers shows all isnt well. Yet Ramanji waxes eloquent about Do Nothing's cool qualities.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 05:55

The U.S has paid no heed to Pakistan's nuclear muscle flexing. Hillary Clinton has made it clear to her counterpart today that Islamabad cannot rear snakes in its backyard and expect them only to attack its neighbouring enemies.Pakistan has now struck a contrite pose.But will it bend to the U.S's bidding?

Khar says that safe heavens are in both sides of the border.

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 25 Oct 2011 06:16

Acharya wrote:IAF grounds four officers for violating Pak airspace‎
The News International - 1 hour ago
ISLAMABAD: The Indian Air Force (IAF) has grounded all its four officers who deified Pakistan airspace on their military chopper and landed in Pak

Isnt the Army aviation choppers piloted by armymen. So why would IAF ground them and also why the technician?

partha · Post by **partha** » 25 Oct 2011 06:16

abhishek_sharma wrote:from B. Raman:

This speaks highly of Gen Kayani as a military professional.

His positive and cool reflexes as reflected during the incident need to be noted, acknowledged and hailed by India.

One is reminded that during the crisis in Indo-Pakistan relations after the terrorist attack on the Indian Parliament in December 2001, Gen Kayani was the Director-General of Military Operations in Rawalpindi.

It was reported that the US was highly impressed by the cool manner in which he handled the crisis. He has shown a similar cool temperament this Sunday.

This is the time for us to consider inviting Gen Kayani to visit India.
prabhu, aap mahaan hain, tussi great ho.

If India has decided to take a chai biskoot approach to deal with Pak then what's the problem in inviting the person who actually matters? Why waste time talking to Gilani or Zardari?

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 25 Oct 2011 06:24

[quote="Acharya"]

The tallel friend understand Pakis better than our WKKs..the first Chinese character for Pakistan also stands for snake..

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Oct 2011 06:25

^^^ Good point. Further, to make more Aman-e-able the atmospherics, why not hold the meet at the Mumbai Taj, for old times sake?

More seriously, what exactly will you talk to him about in person that you otherwise cannot convey? What is the high hope here? That TSPA will reduce its anti-India hostility? Stop printing fake currencies, activating bum blasts and sleeper cells? Pointless exercise, if there was one.

OTOH, I can see how a kiyanbi, like a Mushy, can use that opportunity to his advantage - bamboozle our WKK hordes, female journo fanbase, naive netaship, potugeese phoren mantri, compromised telecom and griha mantris etc. Nah, on 2nd thoughts, keep the TSPA types within the poaki cesspool. No polluting Indian land with their jackboots, no sir.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 25 Oct 2011 06:27

A few days ago, some people were whining about Musharraf's India trip. Maybe those arguments can be given about Kiyani's trip as well.

Secondly, there is no need to invite Kiyani. TSPA already controls Pakistan's policy towards India. So any direct/indirect contact is not going to change ground realities.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 25 Oct 2011 06:44

The United States, Pakistan, and the perils of brinkmanship

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Oct 2011 06:48

RCase wrote:Ah! now we can figure out the intent of this song - It is all about showing us the 'moderate majority' of Pakis, never mind all the rage boys and girls or the Qadir admiration fan club. I tend to believe this is carefully planned, planted material.

These guys were not afraid of any repercussions? Maybe they are trying to extend the definition of Canadian Visa.

Absolutely. Anything "moderate" that comes out of Pakistan is deliberately and consciously hyped up as "normal" for Pakistan, while extremism, particularly the Islamic side of extremism is deliberately played down. Even the "Paki establishment" deliberately allows this to occur so long as the damage can be limited at will. 60,000 or even 3 million YouTibe hits mean very little. Even playing the song on TV would be OK as long as it is not allowed to become an anthem in Pakistan.

What I find interesting is that this song is an example of how a conservative group or society tries to improve its own image by wearing a label of liberalism. Indian Americans on BRF have often spoken of how Faux News brings of liberal sounding folks for show but their effect is only to set off and highlight the idea that the channel is balanced. The Chinese too are doing this all the time. they are showing a soft, free, liberal side which covers up the coercion. Pakistanis have been doing that for years and this song is, in future, going to be used as an example of how liberal everyone is in Pakistan and how Pakis are being given a bad name by people like us., who are the real extremists.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 25 Oct 2011 06:59

Qadri judge in Saudi Arabia

Syed Pervaiz Ali Shah, an anti-terrorism court judge, who awarded death sentence to Punjab police constable Mumtaz Qadri in Salmaan Taseer murder case, has shifted to Saudi Arabia along with his family.
The Sessions Judge was facing life threats from certain quarters after he delivered the judgement on October 1, sources said. They further said that Pervaiz Ali Shah was sent to Saudi Kingdom by the federal government to protect his life and that of his wife and children.

failed state!

archan · Post by **archan** » 25 Oct 2011 07:30

They further said that Pervaiz Ali Shah was sent to Saudi Kingdom by the federal government to protect his life and that of his wife and children.

This must be the only "state" that does that. Whats funnier is that most of them don't even realize how ridiculous this is.
So they can't protect their judges but will be able to protect their nuclear bombs 400%?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Oct 2011 08:15

archan wrote:
They further said that Pervaiz Ali Shah was sent to Saudi Kingdom by the federal government to protect his life and that of his wife and children.

This must be the only "state" that does that. Whats funnier is that most of them don't even realize how ridiculous this is.
So they can't protect their judges but will be able to protect their nuclear bombs 400%?

This is just a one-off thing for Pakistan. No one can be sent off like that. The man may have opted to move. Extremism is a problem that affects all of South Asia. Pakistan is a moderate state. and making statements like this are unhelpful in these difficult times. Have you heard the song "Aloo Andey" by a liberal Pakistani group, the "Beyghairat Brigade", the true voice of Pakistan? Highly recommended!

Poe's law here I come

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 25 Oct 2011 08:29

Interestingly he is being sent to Saudi Barbaria whose obnoxious scum rulers are financing most of the terrorism and fanatic barbarianism in Pakistan and elsewhere! Are they hoping that by sending him to KSA he can meet his 72 faster? With plausible deniability as bonus?

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 25 Oct 2011 08:32

shiv wrote:Absolutely. Anything "moderate" that comes out of Pakistan is deliberately and consciously hyped up as "normal" for Pakistan, while extremism, particularly the Islamic side of extremism is deliberately played down. Even the "Paki establishment" deliberately allows this to occur so long as the damage can be limited at will. 60,000 or even 3 million YouTibe hits mean very little. Even playing the song on TV would be OK as long as it is not allowed to become an anthem in Pakistan.

I've noticed a concerted effort by some Paki drones on the Internet to prop up this image of "normal", "moderate", "modern", "hip" Pakiness. Here's an example. Recently a friend of mine emailed me this stage performance of a friend of his at KSG:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StHkThA27-E

Now this Harvard student, Amin Toofani, is Iranian-American. But lookie here, the video is being reproduced as "PAKISTANI TALENT AT HARVARD UNIVERSITY":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHULXiV6 ... re=related

This is being done for many other similar clips, just on youtube! They all carry the header "Pakistani Talent" or "Pakistani [something chic]". For example, there was one of Anoushka Shankar playing the Sitar, labelled in capitals "PAKISTANI chill out music".

What self-respecting country and its people would stoop so low as to steal other people's talent and label it as one's own? Eh Paklurks? Has the situation become so desperate that you need to do such things to prop up the image of your sh!thole of a mafia-military state?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Oct 2011 08:33

Mahendra wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... /214507?hp

The question they need to be asked is how their song got promoted by Media18. Who paid for that? Who paid for the slick make-up and professional editing? The group seem to realize they are doing stuff that can get them in trouble. Yet it has been promoted. And that in a country where the judge who sentences the murderer of a "liberal" is packed off to KSA. There is a deliberate move to "polish" Pakistan's image here. I will wait and watch and will be happy to be proved wrong. But the minute this video is used at some future date as an example of Pakistani moderation and liberalism, my point will be proved. Mark my words.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 25 Oct 2011 08:46

^^^ Shiv ji, I assure you you are 400% right on the money. There is a concerted effort by some Pakis to do the spit and polish on their "image", by hook or by crook. See my post above.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 25 Oct 2011 08:51

GopiD wrote: It would be naive on our part if we think that TSPA doesn't know the abyss in which pak's economy is and it would also be naive of us if we think that the economic relationship is being built with us by pak civilians without the blessings of TSPA.

There was a statement released after a Crore Commander meeting a few months back, where Paki Jernails issued statement to the effect of "Economy should grow at 8% so that the Army can be adequately funded!! The stupid Civvies are neglecting their duty!!" This strangely coincided with Unkil stopping aid.

The army, as long as it received Baksheesh as CSF and others from Unkil could stay insulated form the Pakistan that Pakistan's economy was in. When Unkil stopped aid, it should have dawned on them.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Oct 2011 10:06

Carl wrote:For example, there was one of Anoushka Shankar playing the Sitar, labelled in capitals "PAKISTANI chill out music".

What self-respecting country and its people would stoop so low as to steal other people's talent and label it as one's own?

Carl, don't you know that it was the Pakistanis who taught music to Indians ? That was what Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan saheb once said. In any case, as rulers of India for 1000 years and as legatees of the last Mughal emperor, they have a right over anything that the kafir claim as Indian.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 25 Oct 2011 10:37

Carl,

Self respecting Pakistani is an oxymoron.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Oct 2011 10:54

Threaten the US & Afghanistan with nukes,says this analyst.

To effectively use nuclear weapons as a vehicle to deter any confrontation and/or aggression is to pursue a pro-active nuclear weapons policy. Pakistan should make it clear to its neighbours or those far away that any incursion on Pakistani soil would be confronted and dealt with harshly, i.e. with whatever means necessary. The reason why Pakistan’s eastern front has been relatively peaceful is due to the fact that it is considered a nuclear flashpoint. Creating a few other nuclear flashpoints could deter any other threats from the western front, whether that may be from Afghanistan or the US for that matter.

AoA.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 11:06

Pakistan Intends to Boost Nuclear Security Force by 8000
Global Security Newswire - ‎Oct 19, 2011‎
A high-ranking Pakistani official on Wednesday said the government intends to train more than 8000 workers in nuclear security in order to deepen the military's capacity to ensure its nuclear weapons and materials are not misappropriated,

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 25 Oct 2011 11:10

Acharya wrote:Pakistan Intends to Boost Nuclear Security Force by 8000
Global Security Newswire - ‎Oct 19, 2011‎
A high-ranking Pakistani official on Wednesday said the government intends to train more than 8000 workers in nuclear security in order to deepen the military's capacity to ensure its nuclear weapons and materials are not misappropriated,

A possible 8000 more qadri's with Nukes.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 11:11

Pakistan nuclear safeguards a worry, says U.S. report
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 552516.ece
NARAYAN LAKSHMAN
A “radical takeover” of Pakistan, which possesses “approximately 90-110 nuclear warheads,” or a proliferation by radical sympathizers within Pakistan’s nuclear complex in case of a breakdown of controls,” could have an impact on the country’s nuclear safeguards, according to a report issued this month by the United States Congress.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 11:13

http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=121632

Bloating Afghan army
Eschmall Sardar

There has always been a debate in Pakistan and at international forums about the bigger size of keeping and financing an army in Pakistan, which the time has proved is in real terms a strategic asset of the country vis a vis nuclear deterrence. Way back the Musharraf administration cut its size and since then, despite the need of adding more troops up to corps level, no extra recruitments have been made. The deployments were made only after thinning out troops from the crucially volatile eastern border where the threat of Indian assault has always remained. Every country tactically keeps its reserve troops at the striking positions, but Pakistan, keeping the financial constraints in mind, has not filled the gaps created by huge deployment of over one hundred thousand troops along its western borders.

But look at the size and number of troops Kabul has resorted to induct in the Afghan National Army, Afghan National Police and Afghan intelligence agency RAAM. The number of all three has now reached 300,000 with only 2% Afghan Pushtun representation. In addition to that Afghanistan is reportedly raising another 350,000 army, besides four lashkars of locals (50,000 each) and the process of their recruitment, induction and training has already been started, mostly in collaboration with their Indian counterparts. It is startling to know that a separate corps containing 80,000 troops had been raised in India during the last five years, which has reportedly been imparted training by the British and Israeli instructors near the Nepal borders and deployed in four phases in Afghanistan.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 25 Oct 2011 11:15

SSridhar wrote:Threaten the US & Afghanistan with nukes, says this analyst.
AoA.

Nice blowback to the west for hyping up the "Cashmere is new-clear flashpoint" threat to browbeat India. Maybe India should issue some travel advisories now.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 25 Oct 2011 11:16

Wah!Wah! Gen,Cool-any indeed! This is such a mundane matter that often happens worldwide especially in bad weather.However in this case,the Pakis had more to lose by making much of the incident,as at the current moment they are up sh*t street with the Yanquis! Getting India also heated under the collar was to be avoided as it would bring both India and the Yanquis togather even more at a crucial time.Had the Pakis made a huge cry about the incident it might've led to India tightening up and strengthening its forces on the Indo-Pak border and forcing Pak to transfer troops from the N-West to the East which would keep them very vulnerable in case the Yanquis decided to up the ante.Pak had to quickly defuse the situ and any observer with common-sense will tell you that compared with many other armies worldwide,the Pakis are well-trained and a considerable military force notwithstanding the inroads that Islamists have made and the fact that the Paki army is involved in so much of mercenary commercial activities in the state.

I must here mention the huge strides that the Paki navy is making to modernise and upgrade its capabilities post-Kargil.Apart from the AIP Agosta-90Bs it is building/acquiring from France,at least 6 Yuan class AIP subs (with Stirling engine AIP systems) are also on order.This will gvie the PN a unique capability of having two western AIP systems to operate and evaluate (why I've been aovocating for aeons that we resume U-boat construction too to replace our 4 U-209s woth newer AIP German U-boats).Apart from the emphasis on subs,the PN is acquiring two relatively new PLAN DDGs on a 10 yr. lease,more frigates and building a new stealth corvette PRC design at Karachi.Two Austal design-assisted Houbei class SWATH missile craft are being acquired,with more on their way eventually,as the PRC is mass producing this design by the dozens.Pak also planned to acquire ex-USN Perry class upgraded ASW frigates and already have Orion P-3s in service to be supported by Swedish AEW aircraft.THis kind of long-term planning isn't that of an unprofessional military

I can't understand why very intelligent individuals who have been in the know of things in India keep on falling for the Paki PR line,time and time again.The Pakis believe in losing the small battles to win the last big one.Here they understand perfectly the mentality of our venal leadership who are willing to clutch at any straw that the Pakis might offer to us,so that they can preach to the nation that Pak has turned over a new leaf and that India must reciprocate by giving away at the table what Pak could not achieve on the battlefield.One small gesture fom Pak is treated as if they have relinquished their claim to J&K! We should treat the Paki armed forces ,especially its army,as the equivalent of the SS troops of WW2.Their leaders might have indeed monstrous rabid goals against India,just as the Nazis did,but they plan to accomplish their task using both professional armed forces supported by a host of ungodly irregulars as they have been doing right from '48 to 26/11.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Oct 2011 12:42

Philip wrote:I can't understand why very intelligent individuals who have been in the know of things in India keep on falling for the Paki PR line,time and time again.

Philip, well said. As I said before, it can be only described as our misfortune.

Apart from all you said, Philip, TSP is also looking up to India to help tide over (even partially) its huge economic crisis. At the same time, they are playing a hard ball game with us by dangling the MFN carrot but extracting concessions from us (the EU case, easing even the required non-tariff barriers, helping their service industry etc). PRC cannot help them the way only Indian can. The PA is opposed to MFN status (Kayani openly warned so when the trade talks started a couple of months back) but is willing to be flexible enough to derive maximum benefits for Pakistan with as little concession as possible in return. They did not want to jeopardize this development by blowing up an innocuous chopper incident.

PS: Even the Pakistanis wouldn't have expected Indians to suggest 'seizing this moment of opportunity'. They must be laughing.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Oct 2011 12:45

Anujan wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Threaten the US & Afghanistan with nukes, says this analyst.
AoA.
Nice blowback to the west for hyping up the "Cashmere is new-clear flashpoint" threat to browbeat India. Maybe India should issue some travel advisories now.

Also, a nice blowback for helping Pakistan in every which way to acquire the nukes and technology in the first place. Ms. Clinton's analogy of snakes in the backyard comes to mind inconveniently.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Oct 2011 12:48

China paper warns of "sound of cannons" in sea disputes
Reuters India - Ben Blanchard, Paul Tait - ‎3 hours ago‎
A look at the controversy over whether sharks themselves are the hunters or the hunted. Slideshow The Chinese Maritime Safety Administration's Haixun 31 maritime patrol vessel is seen docked in Singapore June 20, 2011. BEIJING (Reuters) - One of ...

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 25 Oct 2011 13:45

SSridhar wrote: Also, a nice blowback for helping Pakistan in every which way to acquire the nukes and technology in the first place. Ms. Clinton's analogy of snakes in the backyard comes to mind inconveniently.

Mrs.Clinton acknowledges implicitly that the snakes analogy applies to US just as well to Pakistan. Pakistan blowing up a backpaki JDAM in Afghanistan is a fearful possibility. The explosion itself will be a statement to US that any further meddling will result in more mushroom clouds. Go pakis go! blow up Unkils ass with Chinese nuke AoA!
I swear I will distribute pure ghee sweets to all you BR folks. Happy Diwali!

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 25 Oct 2011 18:52

Altair, very good point. Ba-kistan is basically a snake reared by Unkil in the hope that it will only bite India and not Unkil itself. Though they seem to be learning the lesson after all, nothing like a loose dirty nook unleashed on western border by the jehadi arm of ISI/TSPA to ram the lesson home to Unkil...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Oct 2011 18:58

Suppiah wrote:Interestingly he is being sent to Saudi Barbaria whose obnoxious scum rulers are financing most of the terrorism and fanatic barbarianism in Pakistan and elsewhere! Are they hoping that by sending him to KSA he can meet his 72 faster? With plausible deniability as bonus?

Recall inconvienent folks used to be sent on haj during the Sultanate and Mughal days? The ideai is if they get killed their they become Allah ke pyare.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 25 Oct 2011 18:59

SSridhar wrote:Also, a nice blowback for helping Pakistan in every which way to acquire the nukes and technology in the first place. Ms. Clinton's analogy of snakes in the backyard comes to mind inconveniently.

SS Ji,

Do you want to bet, in response to this threat, the morons in Khan land will sing the solve cashmear chorus even more loudly.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 25 Oct 2011 20:13

It is official...judge gets sent to KSA for safe-custody or a more direct route to 72...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 489168.cms

Malook [prosecutor] further said he too had been receiving threats. "The government has deployed only two policemen for my security, which by all means is not adequate," he said.

why not? is 1 not enough to pump bullets into you and become ghazi superhero?

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 25 Oct 2011 20:15

http://www.dawn.com/2011/10/25/at-least ... -camp.html

18000 (3200 families which means roughly 6 barbarians per family) flee....and some nuggets of Paki wisdom:

The estimated numbers of the displaced people are likely to come down by 10 per cent because normally people who are not affected by the disasters also join the displaced families just to enjoy the benefits and compensation,” she said...

and perhaps also get a canadian visa thrown in?