Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[vijayk]

who is the string puller of this Sepoy.

POLLING PRIME MINISTERS
- There are possibilities apart from Rahul Gandhi and Modi

RAMACHANDRA GUHA

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130309/j ... TpmT9b3D3U

He even wants to put Jayalalitha against Modi because he knows she is all for Modiji. See the thread will be picked up Sagarika, Burkha, Shiela Butt, Sardeep, Vardarajan, Katju... The scums are shaking in their boots.

The garbage of India wants to kill aspirations of people and turn their attention from Modi to any body.Aks these scums. They will be ready to make Kiyani and Osama Bin Laden as PM. Any one but Modi.

The crooks just can't STOP. Their viciousness and desperation will hit the roof.

[disha]

... it references one guy claiming to speak on behalf of one region much as you seem to claim to speak for something. ...Snide comments and beating about the bush with oblique references is not particularly bharatiya ...

Anjan ji,

And that said referenced person called another group of literate (and hopefully educated) persons of a particular community seeking entitlements as mofos. If you do not believe or trust me, please go check it out, it is 3-4 pages back.

What is bharatiya? Is it codified somewhere?

[Muppalla]

[sum]

^^ Beautiful secular article. Talks about how there is nothing to learn from Modi for a B-school( guess the only estemeed people to learn from are A.Raja, Vadra, SG etc) :

What could a US business school have learnt from Modi?

Whenever an educational institution invites a person from the social and political world, the purpose is to further contribute to the educational processes of the institute.

That Wharton Business School invited Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi is not so much important as to why did they invite him. The reasons for inviting Modi were clear. For the third successive term Modi had won elections in his state and may become a national leader if the BJP announces his candidature for the office of the prime minister in the next elections.

The economic growth of the state is attributed to his efficient rule. The state has had no communal riots since 2002. He has welcomed investment to his state and projected a picture of a man who has turned Gujarat into a land flowing with milk and honey with less corruption than many other states. His image in the west has improved. However what surprises is the way one of the world’s prestigious business schools takes its decision, first to invite and then to disinvite. Decision-making is an important skill that is imparted in business schools. All decisions are made after placing all the reasons for and against a proposal. It would be interesting to know the new information that the school gathered to reverse its earlier decision of inviting Modi for the summit.

No one denies that Modi is a strong and determined leader. But can he be a model for business schools? In democracies, society and industry expect totally different kinds of leaders to emerge from business schools than the liked of Modi. Business schools are expected to be democratic, make decisions as a result of discussions, debates and consensus. Modi is known for his authoritarian style.
Honesty and ethics
Ethical behaviour is a key value for leaders in business. They are expected to be honest and learn to work as team members. Delegating tasks to right individuals and appropriate departments is one of the most important skills that business managers need. A business leader is expected to be a good communicator. Being able to clearly and succinctly describe what the leader wants done is extremely important. Making oneself available to discuss issues is vital. It is the responsibility of the leader to instill a positive energy. Leaders have to cultivate humour for making the office where those who work look forward to working in, rather than dreading it. Other than being a good communicator, Modi has none of the above qualities.

Leaders in business are to lead by example and are expected to be fair and impartial. Good business leaders think outside the box and even turn to the team for guidance. Though, the tough decisions will be up to the leader to take learning to trust is as important as the team learning to trust the leader. The leader has to provide a vision of the successes to come. While focusing on the future goals, it is the responsibility of the leader to keep spirits up, and that begins with an appreciation for the hard work done members.

Modi has a vision, but a twisted one. He had refused to implement the special scholarship scheme for Muslims till the high court intervened and ordered his government. Leader of opposition Shaktisinh Gohil had alleged the rights of scheduled caste and schedule tribe were not being protected in Gujarat. “Despite a provision in the Act that the committee to review the implementation of law relating to protection of rights of SC/ST should meet twice a year, it met after a gap of over two years in 2012,” he claimed.

Towards those who have not toed his line of thought, he has been oppressive. His style of governance has not allowed anybody else to emerge as a leader. When he does not delegate and does not trust, forget about appreciating the work of his team members. One wonders what is it a business school like Wharton has to learn from a leader who is not known to build or inspire a team

Am sure that all B-schools will stop calling any Indian neta since none can teach anything, going by secular logic

[Hari Seldon]

Narendra Modi fires fresh salvo at PM, says he used poetry to cover up Govt's failures

The headline's misleading. NM's critique is far more nuanced and devastating. And 100% secular too. Read it all, IMHO.

[ramana]

If you are a TV ASia subscriber go ahead and make your displeasure known to the channel for sponsoring the Wharton Forum after its bias.

[Singha]

How clean is the sabarmati river in ahmedabad? We know dilli dumps all waste whether treated or not into the yamuna..below wazirpur barrage it is a toxic sludge until it meets the ganga.

Where does ahmedabad dispose its solid and liquid waste?

[Sanku]

Except last two points, i doubt she is spitting any venom. But funny thing is that she has to imagine an interview (based on quotes from Modi supporters, critiques etc) because she can't get any interview from Modi. But "Paapi" pet ka sawal hai.

Sushupti-ji, dont mind but you are way to innocent.

This article, that you found nice about NaMo is a outright hatchet job, a subtle one, but a hatchet one nevertheless. We do know what Sheela Bhatt and her relationship with Modi over the years has been through her work, , but even if we did not, it is clear to see why this is a bad job.

But before I get to that -- repeat after me -- everyone who praises you is not your friend, everyone who critizes you is not your enemy. True for NaMo, true for me, and true for you.

What is bad with the article -- the article tries to build NaMo is some one "special" and "different" -- repeatedly harping on this "non-democratic" or individualistic power over everything else.

Now while this picture might appeal to fringe group of Modi fan-boi's who think this is way too cool -- the larger Indian public does finds that sort of autocrat an anathema. Even IG lost when she moved from beloved daughter to a autocrat. This "Indians love autocrat" is a frustrated commie media picture.

If Modi was not a inclusive all encompassing persona, he would not have won three terms. Autocrats do not win in democracies, propaganda not withstanding.

The need of the hour for BJP is to increase the span of engagement of NaMo over a larger footprint than Gj ASAP (irrespective of whether he is PM candidate or not -- BJP needs to give a wide exposure to a number of its top leaders -- that is the growth way for them -- even Jaitely's of the world need to be exposed more)

Now this article basically tries to play up Modi's uniqueness to a point of "aloneness" while damping significantly on his abilities to connect out -- basically a counterattack to the effort for making Modi get a more inclusive image.

This is a hatchet job.

[Singha]

Jaitley is a good speaker in the talk show circuit but needs to get around more and build mass base with rallies and so on...else he is just visible to the urban chattering classes sikular subgenre who tune in to these muppet shows on TV. the rest of us have far better things in life than watching TV kangaroo courts where the BJP is always sentenced to death.

[prahaar]

Jaitleys/Ravi Shankar Prasads of BJP have their role cut out in BJP. Such personalities are needed to spread BJP's point of view amongst the "People Like Us" (PLUs) referred to by SwapanDa. Modi is considered uncouth/uneducated/etc by a vast section of highly educated sections who do not vote but enjoy heavy influence over the decision makers.

[RoyG]

Ravi Shankar Prasad?

[Gus]

muppalla - is there any more data along with that pic? would like to post it elsewhere.

[SwamyG]

I am not so sure about comparing Yamuna and Sabramati. Sabramati is a lot smaller than Yamuna, about one thousand kilometers smaller.

[Rudradev]

I am not so sure about comparing Yamuna and Sabramati. Sabramati is a lot smaller than Yamuna, about one thousand kilometers smaller.

Swamy, once again you miss the point.

It's not Yamuna and Sabarmati in their entirety being compared. It's Narendra Modi and Sheila Dikshit, and the results of money they have spent on cleaning up the extent of those two rivers within their respective jurisdictions.

So ponder this. How many kilometres of the Sabarmati flow through Gujarat, of which Modi is the CM?

And how many kilometres of the Yamuna flow through Delhi, of which Dikshit is the CM?

Do their respective clean-up efforts reflect results that are even remotely comparable?

Now factor in that Dikshit has spent 50X what Modi has, and you might get the picture.

[Hari Seldon]

TMC's Derek O'Brien writing in niticentral.com. Fun read:

Who is taking commissions?

Lays bare tons of damning facts about the dynasty, and with some wit too. Sample this:

Of all the bad things that we say about the Congress, there are certain good things as well. They also have a world record, and I want to congratulate them on this world record. Why not! When we look at the Central Government schemes and institutions they have, out of 58 of them, 27 are named after one family. State Government schemes have 52 names named after one family. University education institutes have 98 names named after one family. Medical institutions have 39 names named after one family.

My only suggestion is these are names which are already there and we can’t change them. But, in the future, may we humbly suggest some other names. Mahatma Gandhi has four institutes named after him, Netaji has none, Tagore has one institute named after him. How about Bhagat Singh, how about Swami Vivekananda, how about Lal Bahadur Shastri? We need to be a little creative; otherwise, I am afraid no one is going to break the record even if they don’t name one more name after the same family…

after nine years we expected the Government to provide a satisfactory report card on what it has achieved.

Instead, they have told us about how bad things are, nationally and globally. In fact, they have also told us that they couldn’t fix the problems in 108 months, and they have given us a kind of a thesis that they will fix the problems in the next 12 months and after that, when they will again get a chance to fix the problems, will do so in sixty months thereafter. Let me put their last thought out of the window right away.

The next 60 months will not be UPA-III. There will be no UPA-III because the people of this country have figured out that vague promises made on infrastructure, vague promises made on women’s issues or farmers’ issues or other issues have not been delivered. We were a part of the UPA-II. But soon we figured out that the UPA-II, in fact, had become APA, that is, Anti-People’s Alliance, and that is why, on FDI, on LPG, on prices of urea, on diesel prices, etc, we came out of the Government.

Its an excerpt from his parl speech, apparently. Nice. Heartening to see ever more folks break the omerta code and speak out against the first phamily. Not a day too soon, besides.

[SwamyG]

Oh I am deeply so sorry for missing all the points. Next time when somebody tries to compare say Singapore and India, I should just keep quiet, because I probably am missing the point.

[member_20317]

Ravi Shankar Prasad seems good at verbal attacks in the TV debates. BJP has now a great team capable of taking on the sell out media. MSM is one of the biggest components of Kongi strategy and taking them on, in their home ground is important. One cannot really rely on street fighters to do that job. Most of these talk shows are not interested in finding the truth. How can all truth be revealed in half an hour flat, whatever the topic. These are debates - facts, POVs, polemics, poetics, snide remarks everything is important. Street fighters and wordsmithery are two important but different jobs.


In one of the articles linked here, NM shows how well he understands the mechanics of the media debating:

"Instead he (MMS) recited 'sher-o-shayri', to cover up failures. He felt he is under attack and if he did not speak up, media attention will not be gained. That is the reason he attacked through poetry," Modi said, adding that now the entire media had started speaking the poetical language.

"But he was not aware that BJP leader Sushma Swaraj will give such a beautiful reply to him by using the language of poetry," Modi said.

"The PM spoke in the Rajya Sabha today (on Friday). His attacking posture had changed and no poetry was recited, knowing that he would get a befitting reply. His attacking posture has died within just twenty-four hours," Modi said.

The essential street smart urchin in Modi recognizes his job [from the same article]:

Modi said that while the UPA government allocated Rs.1,000 crore for skill development of youth, Gujarat, "a small state", had allocated Rs.800 crore for the same purpose.

Gujarat was leading the country in the fight against malnutrition and unemployment was lowest in the state, he claimed.

Modi also said that solving the water problem of Saurashtra was a top priority of his government.

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RamaY garu,

the tactical move to fight or retreat has to be taken at the time the opportunity presents itself. That point is gone, at least for now. Besides every one of us have our own peculiarities. There's got to be space for everyone. I see a very very strong chance of a lot of minorities getting to understand Modi better in the coming days. And through Modi perhaps also the ideas of the Hindutva vaadis. The artificial screen between majority and minorities will get pulled down. But that has got to happen through deeds only.

JMRequest

[member_20317]

Oh I am deeply so sorry for missing all the points. Next time when somebody tries to compare say Singapore and India, I should just keep quiet, because I probably am missing the point.

SwamyG ji, Gujarat has no less industries than Delhi and the upstream states.

[anjan]

And that said referenced person called another group of literate (and hopefully educated) persons of a particular community seeking entitlements as mofos. If you do not believe or trust me, please go check it out, it is 3-4 pages back.

I believe you. I still don't get how attributing his opinions to a much larger group and taking snide shots is supposed be retaliation against him. You might as well just insult him directly and be done with it. At least you won't run the risk of alienating and pissing off other people. If the idea is to influence people by propagating ideas then randomly insulting sections of the population is hardly a great plan.

What is bharatiya? Is it codified somewhere?

To each his own definition yes? And to a billion countrymen probably a billion definitions. Pretty much my point, The original reference was to S TN referring to unbharatiya people (to paraphrase). Apparently "Paki" is also an okay term to paint broad swathes of the population with.

[member_23629]

Towards those who have not toed his line of thought, he has been oppressive. His style of governance has not allowed anybody else to emerge as a leader. When he does not delegate and does not trust, forget about appreciating the work of his team members.

Wasn't the same true of Nehru?

[prahaar]

Ravi Shankar Prasad?

Do not belittle his contributions. He was the lawyer fighting the fodder scam which ushered the eventual downfall of Laloo. He was the lawyer fighting the RJB case. We need people of all varieties supporting the cause of nation building.

[nawabs]

The arrogance of misjudgement

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/t ... epage=true

Consider the letter of protest the three professors drafted. It said Mr. Modi was the “same politician who was refused a diplomatic visa by the United States State Department on March 18, 2005, on the ground that he, as Chief Minister, did nothing to prevent a series of orchestrated riots that targeted Muslims in Gujarat.” “In taking cognisance of Mr. Modi’s culpability,” the letter went on, “the State Department also revoked his ‘existing tourist/business visa under section 212 (a) (2) (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act’ … David C. Mulford, U.S. ambassador to India … went on to say that the State Department's decision was ‘based on the fact that, as head of the State government in Gujarat between February 2002 and May 2002, [Modi] was responsible for the performance of State institutions at that time’.”

The implication of extensively quoting State Department material was obvious. This was a man, the professors were saying, who the U.S. government had prohibited from entering the country. As such by allowing Mr. Modi to address a Wharton event, even if by videoconference, the University was helping him sidestep that embargo. It amounted to giving him legitimacy despite the “cognisance of … culpability” by U.S. government authorities themselves.

This takes us back to that decision of March 2005, when the State Department showed Mr. Modi a red card. Three years had passed since the Gujarat riots. The U.S. embassy in New Delhi did nothing in 2002, 2003 or 2004. Why did it act 36 months later? What pricked its conscience? That question is not irrelevant; it is very germane to this discussion.

It is now fairly well known that the Modi decision was the result of a horrific misjudgement by a political appointee who had just come into the State Department at the beginning of President George W. Bush’s second term. Much against the advice of professional diplomats, this lady pushed ahead with the visa revocation. It was suggested that since Mr. Modi was a Bharatiya Janata Party man, this would win the U.S. favour with the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government. Far from influencing voters against Mr. Modi, the gratuitous and clumsy intervention ended up incensing public opinion in India. Today, the three professors and their fellow travellers have done exactly the same thing. They claim to be conscientious objectors. Yet, the inspiration for their objection is a decision that was anything but conscientious, and one even those who took it in Washington DC, in March 2005 recognised as partisan and expedient.

Fundamentally, the State Department’s decision was based on an overstated assessment of how much American approbation or perceived approbation mattered in the exercise of political choices and voting preferences in India. The professors’ campaign to ostracise Mr. Modi is analogous and grounded in the same arrogance. It is premised on an exaggerated idea of how essential a University of Pennsylvania association is for the Gujarat Chief Minister to sell himself to voters and stakeholders in India. It presumes that an American campus — likely one based on the East Coast or in Berkeley — is the international arbiter of decency, values and good taste and can, with the magisterial flick of a switch, turn off the intellectual oxygen for a disagreeable individual and render him a non-person.

Not surprisingly, the move has backfired. It has led to misgivings in India far beyond Mr. Modi’s traditional constituency. Part of the reason for this is the contemporary political situation. The UPA government’s failures have given the Gujarat Chief Minister a greater appeal. Even so, that should not detain us if we are discussing principles rather than personalities. Presumably our positions should be consistent, irrespective of whether Mr. Modi tops the opinion polls or comes near the bottom.

[member_22539]

^ Who is this " political appointee who had just come into the State Department." It would be fun to note the career path of this person when Mr. Modi becomes PM and Mr. Hussein has to shamefacedly invite him to come over for a visit (whether he will go or not I'm not sure). Americans care about face saving as much as the Chinese (albeit in a more subtle manner). Combining that with their need to fix responsibility and get heads rolling for a blunder (AKA finding a scapegoat), it will be positively delicious seeing what would happen to this woman.

[Singha]

But hasnt this woman already left and pakpasand kerry taker her state dept seat.

[muraliravi]

What the heck is raj thackarey's problem , why does he keep saying i will come to power on my own when bjp and ss are approaching him to join the alliance. On the other hand he says modi should be pm. Can anyone care to explain.

This is more important than katju or guha or teesta or wharton

[anmol]

But hasnt this woman already left and pakpasand kerry taker her state dept seat.

Condoleezza Rice?

[Sushupti]

Advani says people 'somewhat disillusioned' with BJP, feels 'distressed'

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 23759.aspx

[Klaus]

Oh I am deeply so sorry for missing all the points. Next time when somebody tries to compare say Singapore and India, I should just keep quiet, because I probably am missing the point.

SwamyG, no offense meant. But the comparison would be similar even if you compared canal irrigation over the Narmada, compared to the Ganges (which is running in trickles through a large stretch of UP). It is the recent program started by Uma Bharti which has started to show some improvements for the Ganges.

So its not just the capital city which need be highlighted or put down.

[Muppalla]

muppalla - is there any more data along with that pic? would like to post it elsewhere.

It is a tweet pic from someone. I do not have more info

[Muppalla]

If you are a TV ASia subscriber go ahead and make your displeasure known to the channel for sponsoring the Wharton Forum after its bias.

Today 6PM eastern, there is exclusive live telecast of NaMo's speech for the NRIs and is being sponsored by OFBJP. TV Asia is live telecasting and OFBJP is conducting its meeting to see the live telecast in NJ and Chicago. I am not sure if it is interactive. It is going to be live from Karnavati

[Muppalla]

I am not so sure about comparing Yamuna and Sabramati. Sabramati is a lot smaller than Yamuna, about one thousand kilometers smaller.

Swamy, once again you miss the point.

It's not Yamuna and Sabarmati in their entirety being compared. It's Narendra Modi and Sheila Dikshit, and the results of money they have spent on cleaning up the extent of those two rivers within their respective jurisdictions.

So ponder this. How many kilometres of the Sabarmati flow through Gujarat, of which Modi is the CM?

And how many kilometres of the Yamuna flow through Delhi, of which Dikshit is the CM?

Do their respective clean-up efforts reflect results that are even remotely comparable?

Now factor in that Dikshit has spent 50X what Modi has, and you might get the picture.

It is 22 Kms in Delhi.
http://www.slideshare.net/ManushiIndia/yamuna-in-delhi
See the slides of Delhi.

Sabarmathi riverfront project is 10.5 KM in Ahmedabad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabarmati_ ... nt_Project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabarmati_River
http://www.sabarmatiriverfront.com/

[member_20317]

You sit half hour near Yamuna at Kalindi Kunj (where a canal takes off) and you will come back with a headache for sure. That is how persistent the stench of industrial and domestic effluents is near that place. OTOH during the assembly elections in Gujarat, a prominent TV channel conducted interviews near Sabarmati.

I didn't knew they have already spend that much money on Yamuna. But here is a link showing what is going on:

http://www.indiawaterreview.in/Story/Ne ... TtJ0Ryj3ZM

SC seeks Yamuna Action Plan details, forms panel on clean-up efforts
India Water Review : November 1, 2012, 10:23 am

New Delhi : Expressing displeasure at the unabated flow of untreated effluents flowing into the Yamuna river, the Supreme Court has asked the Central Government to place before it the Yamuna River Action Plan detailing actions being taken to prevent the pollution.

A bench of Justices Swatanter Kumar and Madan B Lokur on October 30 also constituted a two-member committee to examine and report on what has been achieved on the ground regarding reduction in pollution in the river. The committee comprises the member-secretary of Central Pollution Control Board (CPCB) and the chief engineer of Delhi Jal Board (DJB) and has been asked to submit its report in two weeks.

The bench also asked the Government to present by November 9 the Yamuna River Action Plan and any other plan made to clean the river by resorting to correctional and preventive measures.

“The Union of India shall also inform the court whether the Yamuna River Development Authority, constituted by a notification in 2007, is still in place and operational. It shall also inform what steps have been taken by this authority and the extent of compliance,” the bench said.

Yamuna clean-up: SC asks Centre, three states for costs, details

The court also asked that the minutes of the Authority be placed before it.

The apex court wanted to know from the Central and state governments of Delhi, Uttar Pradesh and Haryana what had been achieved in terms of cleaning the river despite thousands of rupees spent on it in the past 18 years.

“Where has all this money gone? We don’t see any improvement in the water of the river... what is the use of this money,” asked the court, underlining the fact that over Rs 12,000 crore had been spent during the past 18 years by the Central and three state governments and their civic bodies.

Despite the huge amount of money spent by the governments and setting up of several sewage treatment projects for the 60 million people who depend on the river for potable water, there has not been any marked improvement in curbing pollution in the river.

Stating that ways should be found to prevent direct discharge of untreated water into the Yamuna, the court asked the two-member committee to examine how many drains in Delhi discharge untreated wastewater into the river. The committee should also examine the feasibility of blocking these drains to save Yamuna and compel the authorities to take corrective measures, the apex court said.

Uttar Pradesh said in its affidavit that it had spent Rs 2,052 crore in cleaning the Yamuna over past 18 years while Delhi Government and its civic bodies spent Rs 2,387 crore. Haryana said it had spent Rs 549 crore to clean the Yamuna.

No wonder there was a rally recently in nearby areas asking for the results of all this spending. Apparently the Amoeba promptly asked people in the rally to come speak with him. Prolly trying to preempt the downside of another scam. What a looser we have for a PM from this vulgar party.

[member_20317]

Muppalla ji the length should not matter. The jurisdiction over the sources of pollution should.

[fanne]

Advani ji is playing dirty polictics. In Cahoots with Ananth Kumar (and Sushma), they got Yeddy removed (and I am not going into corruption here). Ananth Kumar is probably the most honest politician (he is, that is his USP). But Remember Atri ji list of Vices - Kam, Krodh, Moh, Lobh, Aham and .... While we can pin Lobh on Yeddy, Ananth has Aham in huge major, the prime minister of vices. Just because he is honest, he will have BJP or Indic forces loose and be relegated to dustbin of history than give up his right to be right (also called my way or the highway). You know why Advani is playing this tape recorder of Yeddy bad (when Yeddy is out and history), because, without Yeddy and Karnataka, there is no BJP govt. Modi knowing this will try to bring this back, at that opportunate Moment LKA will do the final STAB, go on anshan and ask Modi to be replaced by Sushma. D-3 is the real Jiachnad right now.
rgds,
fanne

[Muppalla]

Muppalla ji the length should not matter. The jurisdiction over the sources of pollution should.

absolutely. Someone is making a big deal of it. Even if you make take lengths into consideration, see the difference in money spent and the implementation speed. The math tells the truth.

[Sushupti]

Only yesterday Ramay Ji objected to me for calling him LOL Purush. Don't underestimate him, he has plans to launch "BJP(secular)". Yesterday his PA Kulkarni fellow criticized Ajmer Mulla for boycotting Paki PM.

[chaanakya]

If you want to book accommodation for 17th Wharton India Economic Forum 2013 at Ritz Carlton

The web code is INDINDA.

I wonder why it was not INDIUPA
http://www.whartonindia.com/logistics.php

[RamaY]

Only yesterday Ramay Ji objected to me for calling him LOL Purush. Don't underestimate him, he has plans to launch "BJP(secular)". Yesterday his PA Kulkarni fellow criticized Ajmer Mulla for boycotting Paki PM.

I think I am still in 1992 mindset. I could be wrong.

[Sushupti]

Advani ji is playing dirty polictics. In Cahoots with Ananth Kumar (and Sushma), they got Yeddy removed (and I am not going into corruption here). Ananth Kumar is probably the most honest politician (he is, that is his USP). But Remember Atri ji list of Vices - Kam, Krodh, Moh, Lobh, Aham and .... While we can pin Lobh on Yeddy, Ananth has Aham in huge major, the prime minister of vices. Just because he is honest, he will have BJP or Indic forces loose and be relegated to dustbin of history than give up his right to be right (also called my way or the highway). You know why Advani is playing this tape recorder of Yeddy bad (when Yeddy is out and history), because, without Yeddy and Karnataka, there is no BJP govt. Modi knowing this will try to bring this back, at that opportunate Moment LKA will do the final STAB, go on anshan and ask Modi to be replaced by Sushma. D-3 is the real Jiachnad right now.
rgds,
fanne

I thought his name was "Ananath Neera Radia Kumar"

[member_20317]

Advani ji is still cross at never having become the PM. He has to realize, NM can offer the best retirement plan and Advani ji can become the Pitamah. But then Pitamah was not a frustrated old man, so at least that much effort certainly has to come from Advani ji. At the rate he is going he risks loosing all the respect he has gathered since his heydays. ABV was no more enamored of NM but he did his bit and moved on. The old timers need to understand that what they have started can only be taken forward by younger more successful leaders like NM. These guys are no more the second line leaders. The old timers are holding emeritus positions.