Bharat Rakshak

I wonder if Pakistan is going to show the funeral of their fourfather from arab land?
For all those BRFites who were blessed with watching Zia's funeral live on TV (I did), with the anchor crying like a goat - a la north korea istyle, well this four father funeral won't disappoint either.

I wonder if PeeTV will cry too...

http://www.dawn.com/news/1159463/pakist ... gic-vision

Pakistan sneaks into US-India strategic vision

NEW DELHI: President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi agreed on a joint strategic vision for regions straddling Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean on Sunday, but a close reading of the pact indicates a crucial role for Pakistan, though it was not named, as a conduit for carrying the proposed cooperation into Central Asia.

Analysts said reference to people-to-people linkages in the Obama-Modi document was lifted from the standard formulae used for years in Indo-Pakistan dialogues. Moreover, the mention of Central Asia as a destination for all round connectivity was a clear give away for Pakistan’s role since neither China, nor Russia or Iran could be in the minds of the signatories.

Blow to H&D. Pakis reduced to having to closely read India-US pacts to feel good about themselves by making assumptions which may or may not be true.

Pakistan sneaks in to India-US strategic vision. Obama's South Asia visit a big success for Pakistan.

partha wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1159463/pakist ... gic-vision

Pakistan sneaks into US-India strategic vision

NEW DELHI: President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi agreed on a joint strategic vision for regions straddling Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean on Sunday, but a close reading of the pact indicates a crucial role for Pakistan, though it was not named, as a conduit for carrying the proposed cooperation into Central Asia.

Analysts said reference to people-to-people linkages in the Obama-Modi document was lifted from the standard formulae used for years in Indo-Pakistan dialogues. Moreover, the mention of Central Asia as a destination for all round connectivity was a clear give away for Pakistan’s role since neither China, nor Russia or Iran could be in the minds of the signatories.

Blow to H&D. Pakis reduced to having to closely read India-US pacts to feel good about themselves by making assumptions which may or may not be true.

If Indo-US engagements mention Central-Asia, then shouldn't it mean that Bhaarath will have big role in Afghanisthan according to US and Bhaarath?

Pakistanis were hoping that they will still be important due to Afghanistan issue...

partha wrote:Pakistan sneaks in to India-US strategic vision. Obama's South Asia visit a big success for Pakistan.

It sure did

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Sir, as Motorma Fair once said, it's an insult to the dog.

partha wrote:^Sir, as Motorma Fair once said, it's an insult to the dog.

I agree, unfortunately the Paki "embassychor" was nowhere to be seen so the poor thing had to do. Now it's for the photoshop gurus to work their magic

It sure did
<Image of TSP scooting in background>

Need a coffee spill alert for such posts!

Though i do feel bad for the great Indian mongrel for being compared to TSP!

Obama's visit to South Asia to help reduce tension in region: Sartaj - DT



STFU-TSP has almost fallen off the Indian radar after Modi assumed power, IMHO, except for some finishing touches still waiting to be delivered. And, very rightly so too. Nowadays, STFU-TSP is purely to be looked at from an entertainment point of view in India (this thread is a living proof of that as serious discussions about STFU-TSP have dried up for a long time now). The smirk playing upon the lips of Sartaj Aziz in the accompanying photo (may be a file photo . . nevertheless) conceals the fact that he knows the above truth but has to somehow conceal it from fellow Pakistanis.

SSridhar wrote:Obama's visit to South Asia to help reduce tension in region: Sartaj - DT



STFU-TSP has almost fallen off the Indian radar after Modi assumed power, IMHO, except for some finishing touches still waiting to be delivered. And, very rightly so too. Nowadays, STFU-TSP is purely to be looked at from an entertainment point of view in India (this thread is a living proof of that as serious discussions about STFU-TSP have dried up for a long time now). The smirk playing upon the lips of Sartaj Aziz in the accompanying photo (may be a file photo . . nevertheless) conceals the fact that he knows the above truth but has to somehow conceal it from fellow Pakistanis.

Paki mofos needed war or terrorism to keep people focused on IndiaPak. Remove the violence and it drops down.

Reminds me that there is something else - which will sink is violence is removed from its tenets.

sum wrote:

It sure did
<Image of TSP scooting in background>

Need a coffee spill alert for such posts!

Though i do feel bad for the great Indian mongrel for being compared to TSP!

This doge is likely indian, stray and local. They tend to be this well fed or better. Gettyimages can confirm. They keep images handy for the right articles. Delhi strays tend to serve as unofficial chowkidaars in poorer localities, however it would have to be very adventerous to get where it did. Thus an inside hand letting it out can not be ruled out. Note that the doge is confused, and doesnt really know where to run and hide. It either sneaked out or was let out. There is also a whole batallion of well dressed security chappies happy to let it wander, and that you can not blame on furriners. This lot is Indian. Not the doge's fault. If strays are wandering this far into lutyens then things have gone seriously downhill. At the same time, if it had a collar then noone would care. There are quite a few strays in delhi and asking for a chip/collar for these animals is not a bad idea. Will help identify and control the population humanely. Spay/neuter/chip/collar and unless ill, let them wander. The earth belongs to them as well.

SSridhar wrote: IMHO, China crossed that Lakshman Rekha a long time back when it enabled TSP with nukes and their delivery systems.

word.

hope india does the same with vietnam and some other gadflies to the chinese.

I just realized this morning, the usual noise about the India-pak peace talks from talking heads across the world is at an all time low. This despite the talks being cancelled and Bakistaniyat in full flow with every commentator in and from Bakistan talking up war and that too no-clear war. You can hardly watch a Baki program/talk show that concerns Indian without a reference to Indian *provocations* at the LOC and the no-clear option.

Knowing when Bak media plays similar same script across channels it usually reflects the *deep* state line, it is fair to assume that this line in being repeated across world capitals with the regularity and force that is seen on Baki tv.

What accounts for the subdued noise on the issue across world capitals despite the talk cancellation and despite the feverish Baki push and their no-clear scaremongering?

The thing that has changed is the GOI. It is not so much about how we deal with Bakis that has changed BUT how we think about the bakis. The furriners reflected back out own thinking to us as policy with some additional spin.

If bakis claimed equality and the world agreed was because the previous Indian governments agreed with that claim. Bakis were important because the Indian government agreed that Bakis were important. The Bakis blackmailed India because the Indian gov was willing to be blackmailed. If the GOI claimed talks were uninterruptible the furriners reflected that back to us.

I am not saying the the furriners do not play their own games in the region but that Bakis were so high on their agenda because it was high on Indian agenda. Once the agenda of the GOI changed and we were prepared to call Bakis bluff the whole world has fallen in line. The games will still be played but the unwanted and uncalled for *advice* to India on how to approach Baki relation has seen a clear dip.

PankajS ji,agree with your assessment.

Recently, UK and US have been advising Bakis to deny the 'sanctuaries' provided to the true terrorists. This line of denying sanctuaries belongs to Shri Ajit Doval and is now being parroted by UK and US. Here is a video of Shri Doval speaking in Australia on Global Terrorism but more specifically Global Islamic Terrorism sometime prior to May 16, 2014. The talk is for~45 mins, the rest is Q&A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=8 ... 14688#t=76

Apologies if video already posted.

Shreeman wrote:
This doge is likely indian, stray and local. They tend to be this well fed or better. Gettyimages can confirm. They keep images handy for the right articles. Delhi strays tend to serve as unofficial chowkidaars in poorer localities, however it would have to be very adventerous to get where it did. Thus an inside hand letting it out can not be ruled out. Note that the doge is confused, and doesnt really know where to run and hide. It either sneaked out or was let out. There is also a whole batallion of well dressed security chappies happy to let it wander, and that you can not blame on furriners. This lot is Indian. Not the doge's fault. If strays are wandering this far into lutyens then things have gone seriously downhill. At the same time, if it had a collar then noone would care. There are quite a few strays in delhi and asking for a chip/collar for these animals is not a bad idea. Will help identify and control the population humanely. Spay/neuter/chip/collar and unless ill, let them wander. The earth belongs to them as well.

OT but also not OT

The KGA golf course in Bangalore has a healthy population of friendly strays - all neutered and vaccinated as is the norm in Bangalore (as indicated by a notch cut in one ear). The course played host to a high profile international tournament at which time all the strays were put in a shed and fed biriyani all day and set free after the tournament. One stray escaped this treatment and was seen on the course during the tournament and was chased here and there to indicate great diligence of the ground staff.

Notes for the finance minister

The foreign exchange reserves of the SBP, excluding compulsory deposits of commercial banks held with it as a reserve requirement on foreign currency deposits, are about $8 billion – and not $15 billion.

The balance of trade remains in perpetual deficit and is being financed by home remittances and net capital inflows. During the last three fiscal years, imports averaged about $41 billion per year and exports about $24 billion leaving a trade deficit of $17 billion. If exports and imports increase at the same rate, the absolute trade gap widens simply because the import base is about twice as big as export base. For this deficit to be narrowed in absolute terms, exports must rise at a rate much faster than imports. But in reality, exports have been stagnating in the last three years and in the first half of FY15 they actually declined

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/26/world ... nment.html
Rebels Tied to Blackout Across Pakistan

NDTV ticker - Pak AF plane lands in Lucknow for refuelling!!!

Weird as fu(k.

My sources indicate that since US-India strategic dialogue went on for several hours, several people sneaked into Pakistan because they had been drinking water and tea all day. Obama too sneaked into a nearby Pakistan after over eating dinner. Even though it wasnt said openly, from a close look at the photos, it was evident that people were very grateful for the relief they experienced due to nearby Pakistan.

JE Menon wrote:NDTV ticker - Pak AF plane lands in Lucknow for refuelling!!!

Weird as fu(k.

Apparently on route to Chittagong from Rawalpindi.

PTI via India Today:

Pakistan airforce plane lands at Lucknow for refuelling

This is weird even for India-Pak "weird standards". Has there been a precedence?

JE Menon wrote:NDTV ticker - Pak AF plane lands in Lucknow for refuelling!!!

Weird as fu(k.

so apart from furnace oil, there is shortage of aviation fuel also in Pakistan.

1. Pakistan's fuel crisis weighing on credit worthiness: Moody's

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan's ongoing fuel shortage that has led to worsening power blackouts is weighing on its credit worthiness and hindering its ability to meet key reform targets laid out by the IMF, ratings agency Moody's warned Monday.

2. Pakistan airforce plane lands at Lucknow for refuelling

It would be pertinent to find out if the Paki Plane had “logged in” with the Indian Authorities prior to crossing into Indian Air Space of his intention to seek fuel in India. Since Lucknow is Half Way to Bangladesh it was imperative that he had filed in his Flight Plan. In addition it is disturbing to know that ”He said there were five military personnel on board the flight. However, the type of the aircraft or what it was carrying could not be ascertained”.

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So it landed at a secure Indian Fauj Phajility.
It had 5 beebals + 2 more non-beebals on poard. When it took off, it had only 5 beebals on poard. What habben to the 2 hu were left behind in RAA hands? This is haraam!

habal wrote:

JE Menon wrote:NDTV ticker - Pak AF plane lands in Lucknow for refuelling!!!

Weird as fu(k.

so apart from furnace oil, there is shortage of aviation fuel also in Pakistan.

Wouldn't surprise me if that is what happened.

If the Pakis had some type of emergency and had to land, that would be one thing.

If they didn't have enough fuel to make their flight and they always planned on gassing up in India - AND they neglected to file the proper flight plan, then India has grounds to arrest them and throw the book at them for filing a false flight plan.

Added later: have they paid for their fuel? given their current situation, no one in their right mind should be extending them any kind of credit.

UlanBatori wrote:So it landed at a secure Indian Fauj Phajility.
It had 5 beebals + 2 more non-beebals on poard. When it took off, it had only 5 beebals on poard. What habben to the 2 hu were left behind in RAA hands? This is haraam!

Ulan Batori Ji :

From the Article : The aircraft, which had taken off from Rawalpindi, was allowed by the Indian Air Force to land at the Chowdhury Charan Singh Airport here for refuelling.

This is the Civilian Air Terminal and possibly the Air Force also uses it.

It is a MUST for the Air Port Security as well as IAF to check the Contents - Cargo carried by the Pakistan Air Force aircraft.

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This baki article is centered around one majorlyp's tweets. Must be one hell of a tweeter
http://tribune.com.pk/story/827714/obam ... -theories/

arun wrote:

JE Menon wrote:NDTV ticker - Pak AF plane lands in Lucknow for refuelling!!!

Weird as fu(k.

Apparently on route to Chittagong from Rawalpindi.

PTI via India Today:

Pakistan airforce plane lands at Lucknow for refuelling

The more I think about it the more intriguing it gets.

Aircraft capable of carrying 5 people cannot fly the 2,200 Km distance from Rawalpindi to Chittagong or the 2,000 km distance from Rawalpindi to Dhaka without refueling in Lucknow which is about 1,000 km from Rawalpindi. I could not find one in the PAF inventory with even the VIP use Embraer Phenom 100 capable of getting at least to Dhaka from Rawalpindi.

The Pakistani fizzlya plane seems to be j754 Cessna citation 560xl. Bad reporting DDM
http://jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?regsearch=J-754
Edit: more information on the plane
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_Citation_Excel
Data for Cessna Citation XLS+ from Wikipedia
General characteristics

Crew: 2
Capacity: 9 passengers max
Length: 52 ft 6 in (16.0 m)
Wingspan: 56 ft 4 in (17.17 m)
Height: 17 ft 2 in (5.23 m)
Empty weight: 12,800 lb (5,086 kg)
Useful load: 7,400 lb (4,077 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 20,200 lb (9,163 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Pratt & Whitney Canada PW545C turbofans, 4,119 lb (18.32 kN) each

Performance

Cruise speed: 441 ktas (815 km/h)
Range: 1,858 nm (3,441 km)
Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (13,716 m)
Rate of climb: 3,500 ft/min (17,78 m/s)

K Mehta wrote:This baki article is centered around one majorlyp's tweets. Must be one hell of a tweeter
http://tribune.com.pk/story/827714/obam ... -theories/

Apparently he has "bakistan's" sharpest wit..

Pakistan twitter star goes missing

Apparently he is 'saving' bakistan, one tweet at a time..

Was a Lungi / burkha check even administered?

Two PIA flights searched thoroughly in London - DT

Two planes belonging to national carrier Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) were searched thoroughly by British authorities as the flights landed in London.

Customs and immigration authorities searched the two PIA planes without disclosing details regarding the reason for the search. Passengers and flight crew were thoroughly searched along with luggage after flights PK 785 from Islamabad and PK 787 from Karachi landed in London.

Aircraft equipment was also searched by custom authorities, with the raid lasting approximately one hour. The British authorities were in search of a specific person or item, but did not divulge details regarding the identity. The spontaneous search of PIA passengers and aircraft by British authorities is 'routine', PIA spokesperson Rana Hanif said.

"These searches have become the norm. They check us whenever they want, even after the passengers have gone through their security checks. They offload passengers from the plane too. When they find nothing, they allow them to board and the plane to take off, “he said. He added that the last such incident occurred about a month ago.

"PIA has taken this up with British authorities through the Home Ministry," Hanif said, "Our country manager has also complained and a letter has been sent asking why these searches happen when the passengers have already gone through security checks at the airport.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/827768/policeman-guarding-polio-workers-shot-dead-in-karachi/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/826229/at-gunpoint-500-polio-workers-allowance-looted/

JohneeG, don't disagree with the rest of what you said except for these bits.

Johnee wrote:

There is a fundamental difference between the way you are looking at things and I am looking at things. I am interested in the content of that video and you are interested in Najam Sethi's character and background.

Indeed, we view pakistan differently clearly. I could care less about Najam Sethi's character -- but it is instructive to know (a) his history (b) his reasons for playing this new tune.

It is not like jihad sethi has something new and interesting to say from a paki viewpoint (interesting in the sense if it being an indicator of the mindset of the paki junta or those in power. But a look at the actions of the paki establishment in the recent past says they have not changed their overall tune w.r.t. India one bit.

As you point out, Sethi and other "liberal" paki journalists are in the PNG list of the army and islamist crowd (which is the average populace), and like other paki liberals, is a complete non entity in today's pakistan unlike a decade or two ago. So his views on India are less than irrelevant -- ejaz haider and mosharraf zaidi are a lot closer to the paki army than him, and they are pretty good at selling snake oil too. What is being said is just as important as who is saying that -- NS is just repeating Indian media statements for a paki audience. "People lie almost all the time" which is even more true if you change "people" to "pakis". Basically, I guess what I am saying is that what the "liberal" pakis like Najam Sethi, Hussain Haqqani etc. say is completely irrelevant to India's dealings with pakistan, and the "reasonable" world view of these people is even less interesting to people in pakistan, who support Nawaz Sharif, like you mention -- so time spent hearing, reading and listening to these irrelevant pakistanis is not time well spent.

Development is actually the last step. The first step is to remove the patrons of the jihadhis. The patrons of the jihadhis in this entire region is Pakistan Army.

Development of pakistan is not our business -- a stable pakistan has always meant bad news for India, so Pakistan's internal descent into chaos is in India's interest, not their development and stability. The good news is that as long as the paki army runs pakistan, they will do what is in India's best interests, so it is best to leave them in control while ensuring they do not get any more money from their benefactors.

Right PIA will protest. It is because the crew is regularly smuggling Heroin. This is from past BRF posts.

Brad Goodman wrote:looks like paki khawateen are number 1 in many fields
PIA hostess charged with importing heroin

A Pakistan International Airline (PIA) crew member arrested at Manchester Airport on April 12 has been charged with “importing heroin” with intent to supply after the UK Border Agency officials established that the heroin the woman was carrying belonged to her.

According to news reports, the Pakistani woman was carrying half a kilo heroin. Border Force officers at Manchester Airport said that the Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA) is also part of the investigating team.

The officials said the 59-year-old woman named Toheed Alam was stopped as she came through customs on a flight from Lahore, carrying a laptop and another bag.

After being caught by the airport security, she appeared before the Trafford Magistrates Court and was charged with importing heroin.

“She has been remanded in custody and is due to appear before Manchester Crown Court on 3rd May for a preliminary hearing,” said an official. It has been reported that the border officials investigating the smuggling of heroin by Toheed Alam have investigated five other Pakistanis as well, including the son of the woman who lives in Manchester, but he has not been charged.

The amount of cocaine estimated to be imported annually into the UK is between 25-30 tonnes and most of it comes from Colombia, or from the border areas of Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia.
- See more at: http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/04 ... DBESH.dpuf

Peregrine wrote:5 KG heroin seized from PIA London-bound flight

KARACHI: Five kilograms of heroin were recovered from a London-bound Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) flight.

According to Customs officials, action was taken after the Customs Drug Enforcement received information of drugs being smuggled on board PK-787. The heroin was recovered from the bathroom of the aircraft.

The cost of the heroin seized would amount to Rs 50 million in the international market.

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Anujan wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/400203/insi ... assengers/

Around 4.5 kilogrammes of heroin was seized from a Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) aircraft in Karachi that was departing for London via Lahore and the airport staff has been identified as prime suspects.
“This has happened a hundred times,” says Customs Spokesperson Qamar Thalho, while referring to Wednesday’s incident on PIA flight PK-787. “About 20 years ago, it used to be gold that we used to find in the toilets of aircraft, up to 140, 000 grams of gold at a time, and now we see that it’s mostly heroin being smuggled in the toilet compartments.”
Thalho says that the heroin was placed within panelling in the toilets

Senate briefing: Evidence regarding India’s involvement in terrorism conveyed to US

There, now the balance of the world is restored!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02h3hkc

Inside the Osama Bin Laden Imam School

All over Pakistan a web of Imam schools are appearing to create Imams that propagate a purist understanding of Islam. Students dedicate eight years of their lives to the seminary after memorising the entire Koran. In return, they achieve ‘Imam’ status. Once they graduate, they are accredited to deliver fatwas and offer theological guidance on everything from contraception to mortgages.

25 min radio program. Nothing we dont know.

Pakistan airforce plane lands at Lucknow for refuellingAircraft capable of carrying 5 people cannot fly the 2,200 Km distance from Rawalpindi to Chittagong or the 2,000 km distance from Rawalpindi to Dhaka without refueling in Lucknow which is about 1,000 km from Rawalpindi. I could not find one in the PAF inventory with even the VIP use Embraer Phenom 100 capable of getting at least to Dhaka from Rawalpindi.The more I think about it the more intriguing it gets.

NOW U R Yoojing My Prain, as Bin Laurel said to Al Hardy.

Here are the known facts:
1. Bakistani Havai Jehaz landed at a CIVILIAN air terminal at an international airport. BHY eej this Nooje?
2. Same din, Master-e-GUBO from GreatSatanistan was vijiting yindoostan and having chai-biscoot with Hated Hindootvadin NaMO and RAA Agint Do-vaal.
3. It was a PAF flight, not PITA. WHY?
4. The news article mentions that it was NOT AN EMERGENCY. Why mention that? Who pooched, hain?
5. They announced that there were FIVE people. On landing or on takeoff? Not specified. Do 5 people fit in a Cessna? I think not: Just 4 + a body strapped down in the cargo compartment.
6. Why announce this and why on THIS day of all days, hain?

It is clear that the message is:
Bakistan GUBORnment has delivered a package as promised, BEFORE Great Satan left Dilli, as ordered.

P.S. PAF has many 4-seat and 2-seat planes in inventory, ready and fueled at IslamaGood and Pindi, waiting for the Jarnails when the time comes for swift exit as the LampPosts start closing in. Can fly below radar and don't need runways to land, just any field, u c...

Take that you yindoos. You were making fun of "cracker attacks", its real & it exists.

Today pakistan gave a befitting response to all the Kafirs who thought cracker could not kill.

[url=httpxxx://tribune.com.pk/story/827946/one-killed-12-others-injured-in-karachi-cracker-attack/]One killed, 12 others injured in Karachi cracker attack[/url]

khan wrote:

habal wrote:so apart from furnace oil, there is shortage of aviation fuel also in Pakistan.

Wouldn't surprise me if that is what happened.

If the Pakis had some type of emergency and had to land, that would be one thing.

If they didn't have enough fuel to make their flight and they always planned on gassing up in India - AND they neglected to file the proper flight plan, then India has grounds to arrest them and throw the book at them for filing a false flight plan.

Added later: have they paid for their fuel? given their current situation, no one in their right mind should be extending them any kind of credit.

They'll have to fly on the same path on their way back and perhaps they'll stop in Lucknow again. Unless they can convince the Bangladeshis to fill up their gas tank fully for free ...

PAF says it was going to Singapore.

http://www.geo.tv/article-173090-PAF-ai ... -refueling