Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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All the AAPturds* should read up on this:

UN Silver award Grievance Redressal System

http://www.narendramodi.in/swagat-onlin ... rievances/

*It is frustrating to see all the seemingly smart people do a Jan-darbar in Delhi when all they had to do was read the UN paper, identify any flaws, tailor it to Delhi and implement it. Okay, the Guj. GRS is not the perfect system and it has its flaws and loop-holes - but is it million times better than the stupid Jan Darbaars. But saying "HAIL Hazratwal" is easy.

And here are some news items

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 71846.aspx

^Modi is correct, further he has experience running Gujarat, much diverse and less richer than Delhi Municipality of which Hazratwal is CM
“I do not know what they (the ministers) were planning to do,” Modi was quoted by BJP sources as saying.

“Kejriwal and his team are coming to terms with the huge expectations of people amid a media-driven leadership exercise. But how does one process thousands of complaints at one source?”

Be it Kerjiwal’s waiver on power tariff or cut in water rates, the Gujarat chief minister said confusion due to hasty decisions and announcements could leave the system even more damaged, without delivering any relief to the public.

Modi told his BJP colleagues in Delhi about the SWAGAT (State Wide Attention on Grievances by Application of Technology) system of grievance redressal, which has been functional in Gujarat since 2003.

He said it was an innovative concept that enabled direct communication between the citizens and the CM, without people having to throng the corridors of the secretariat.

In Gandhinagar, the fourth Thursday of every month is a SWAGAT day, when the highest office in administration attends to the grievances of the common people, he said.

Here is how it works, say you do not have a street lights coming to your regularized "society" in your town/village - you go and file a complain with your taluka and get the complain number. If you do not hear from the taluka in any way, you go with the complain number to the district. The district now has the complain number., it can pull up the taluka and ask what is their response. If there is no satisfactory response you can go till the state level. More questions are asked - nobody wants that and even then if it is not addressed, the CM is going to look at unresolved cases every month - more questions asked.

Per Guj. govt. 3/4th of civic issues are solved. Per UN 2/3rd of civic issues are solved - UN gave them a silver award in Governance. The unsolvable are really convulated and require a different approach (like regularisation of a slum or moving it out for a road?)., but at least the CM and his team are aware.
“There is a three-tier grievance redressal system in Gujarat – taluka, district and state level. All grievances are reviewed by me. The review is done based on the problems solved and not on the petitions disposed,” Modi was quoted by BJP sources as saying.
But all the AAPtards are blinded by "righteous anger" and want to "change the system".

Here is more to chew on:
Modi said he was not offering “unsolicited advice” to anyone, but said the online grievance redressal system in Gujarat provided resolved their pending problems once a month. He said Delhi could easily adapt to such a technology-driven approach.

“Grievances are logged in, transmitted and made available online to the officers concerned who have to reply within three to four hours. The departments concerned then have to be ready with the replies before 3pm, when I hold video conferences with all districts concerned. Applicants are called one by one and I examine each complaint in detail,” Modi said.

He said the information sent by the department was also reviewed online in the presence of the complainant and the collector/district development officer/superintendent of police and other officials concerned.

“Attempts are made to offer a fair and acceptable solution on the same day and no applicant has ever left without a firm response to his complaint,” he said.

The Gujarat chief minister suggested that Delhi study SWAGAT, which relies on information and communications technology (ICT) infrastructure, particularly the Gujarat State Wide Area Network (GSWAN).

He said it connected the state secretariat with all central ministries and departments, the 25 district headquarters, the hundreds of district-level offices and all 225 taluka headquarters.
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Some images going around.

Bakwaas issue, but going simply by superficiality and aesthetics, I don't really see any similarity between the two.
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^^ Would be fun in bjp adds subtitle 'Emergency' , 'Dictator' etc. and start moving them around! :)
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Many however still look at Indira fondly, though most hated Emergency.

Unlike other Congress leaders, both pre-Independence and post-Independence, BJP may embrace Sardar Vallabhai Patel, Lal Bahadur Shastri, even PV Narsimha Rao, but as far as Indira Gandhi is concerned, BJP can neither embrace her due to being daughter of JLN and due to Emergency, not can they really disown her due to 1971.
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modi should launch good governance model via internet for national needs.. grievances inclusive solutions, so that these does not even rise up! ram rajya.

some of the fundamental kickstart for long term economy model are
- interstate like linkup of all states freeway
- fiberoptics connectivity along the interstates, and broadband connectivity to all villages.
- temple highways, connecting all templs along with fiber option backhaul for village broadbands
- water canal systems as he did in gujarat, guaranteed water on tap for 1 billion
- 24 hour electricity, national grid - more nuclear plants, especially homegrown thorium based
- more alternative energy backups - wind, solar and sea turbines.

reduced pollution and control devices on vehicles, standards and policy corrections. revamping motor vehicles department and real estate taxes along with income tax rollups. bring in more green revolution...

these must be kickstarted and mandatory.
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This presentation on Gujarat's SWAGAT (State wide attention on grievances through application of technology) initiative should be shared far and wide

http://www.slideshare.net/www.narendram ... vice-award
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Prashant Bhushan now wants referendum in red corridor for the presence of security forces. Also wants naxals in AAP



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Aam Aadmi Party – America sharpens its knife against Modi



Aam Aadmi Party, in case the BJP missed the point, did not win the elections. And yet, Kejriwal has been sworn in as Chief Minister of Delhi and has “won” the first trust vote on the floor of the Assembly. This was subversion of the electoral process, and a severe let-down for all who voted for the BJP. By refusing to fulfil its obligation to the people who voted to elect a BJP government in Delhi, the BJP was instrumental in legitimising the illegitimate Arvind Kejriwal government.

Arvind Kejriwal poses a clear and present danger to India’s sovereignty; the danger posed by Kejriwal and Co. is worse than the threat posed by Sonia Gandhi and her family. The twin threats posed by Sonia Gandhi and Kejriwal are comparable to the threats posed by Islam and Christianity. While the sword of Islam is a visible threat, the cancerous church is invisible and the disease manifests itself only when it becomes incurable.

Sonia Gandhi was visibly foreign and Christian; her two children are half-foreign and fully Christian; but Kejriwal is Indian and has already made a public exhibition of coquetting with Abrahamic religious minorities, and therefore poses a more potent threat than Sonia Gandhi. Kejriwal and Co.’s strings are held firmly by two hands – America and the Generic Church.

Prashant Bhushan, one of the founding members of the AAP was in TN recently for the stated purpose of persuading SP Udaykumar, former Christian priest, CSI Nellai, and the face behind the anti-Koodankulam protests in TN. Arvind Kejriwal visited SP Udayakumar in Idinthakarai in 2012 at the height of the violent protests by People’s Movement against Nuclear Power or PMANE. The names of the office bearers of the fledgling TN AAP speaks volumes of what the AAP is and what it is attempting to do in Indian politics: Ms. Christina Samy – State Convener of AAP, Co-Convener of AAP is M. Lenin, and the Youth Co-ordinator is one M. Hufeza. SP Udayakumar and his NGO wife run the South Asian Community Center for Education and Research (SACCER) Matriculation School which is funded almost wholly by the CSI and other foreign churches.

The blame for bringing upon the nation this calamitous political exhibitionist named Arvind Kejrowal must be laid squarely at BJP doors.

The BJP won 32 seats in the elections, four short of the requisite 36 to achieve a simple majority in the Assembly. The Congress crashed to 8 seats while the AAP won 28, which in case the BJP missed the point again, is 8 short of simple majority. In a remarkable coincidence nothing short of what may pass for a Christian miracle-before-sainthood, the AAP needed exactly the same number of seats which the Congress managed to win, in order for the AAP to form the government.

With immense self-righteousness the BJP’s Chief Ministerial candidate proclaimed that the BJP would not indulge in horse-trading and perish the thought, would not break the AAP or the Congress. Instead, by abdicating its own responsibility to its voting constituency, the BJP also offered to help the Ford Foundation funded AAP to form the government by extending to the AAP issue-based ‘outside’ support (which issue exactly?!).

The BJP travelled a tortuous path to arrive at this convoluted morality which only facilitated the coming together of two self-proclaimed mutual enemies – Congress and Kejriwal; whereas had the BJP and even the RSS paid more attention to the writer’s persistent attempt to make them see the dangers of astronomical amounts of foreign money coming into the country, to the danger that Anna Hazare and Co. posed to the sovereignty of the nation, to the dangers of not articulating the character, contours and content of the Hindu nation, the RSS would not have seen merit in Anna Hazare nor sent a high-level RSS functionary to meet Anna Hazare carrying with him a letter of support from the RSS, nor would the RSS have allowed the AAP to form the government in Delhi. (http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=1722)

The BJP missed the point for the third time with disastrous consequences not for itself, but for the Hindu nation when it facilitated the AAP-Congress partnership despite the fact that the AAP rose in public life on the levitating gas generated by its anti-Congress fulmination. Notwithstanding the fact that the AAP was spitting on its face, the Congress briskly wiped Kejriwal’s spittle off its face, made common cause with AAP to send out the all-important political signal that Modi Magic can be nullified by the combined power of political mercenaries and installed Kejriwal as Chief Minister of Delhi; in the process it achieved its secondary objective of keeping the BJP out. Deja vu.

Just so did Nehru become Prime Minister, first as Prime Minister of the Interim Government in 1946 and then in August 1947. Remember Gandhi’s infamous proclamation that Hindus cannot claim this nation to be theirs and that he can contrive a political majority of non-Hindus to relegate Hindus to minority status? Wilfully blind or with sinister intent, depending on who we are and how we judge Gandhi, this is what Gandhi told a group of domestic and foreign journalists in 1942 after coining his “Quit India” slogan:

Free India will be no Hindu-raj, it will be Indian-raj based not on the majority of any religious sect or community but on the representatives of the whole people without distinction of religion. I can conceive a mixed majority putting the Hindus in a minority. Religion is a personal matter which should have no place in politics.

The writer is reminded of Aurobindo’s words, “politics is the work of the kshatriya”; so to burden politics with the morality of a saint which is different from the morality of a kshatriya, is not only foolish but suicidal. The writer is also reminded of how Sardar Patel withdrew his candidature for President of the INC in 1946 simply because Gandhi asked him to, because Gandhi wanted Nehru as Prime Minister. The writer in an earlier article had described Anna Hazare as being truly Gandhian; if Nehru owed his rise to Gandhi, Kejriwal owes his rise to Anna Hazare. So let the country begin to ask the following questions in chronological order –

1. What did Gandhi really achieve in South Africa?

2. Why was it important for him to return to India not simply as a politically ambitious man but as a ready-made Mahatma?

3. Why did it have to be only Gandhi after Gokhale and only Nehru after Gandhi?

4. Who or which forces pulled Anna Hazare from out of the closet and stood him up as the straw-man in the field?

5. How did Ford Foundation hit upon Aruna Roy and why did Aruna Roy pick Arvid Kejriwal first as instrument to agitate for RTI and later to be positioned around Anna Hazare for Jan Lok Pal?

6. Who conceived of the plot involving sundry Magsaysay awardees and IIT alumni, including Aruna Roy, Arvind Kejriwal and Kiran Bedi to constitute Anna Hazare’s thinking head?

7. And isn’t it another miracle-before-sainthood that in identical fashion, just as Gandhi propelled Nehru to the forefront and Hazare propelled Keijriwal, both Gandhi and Anna Hazare play missile launchers and feign(ed) helplessness as the missiles acquire(d) their own dynamics?

The BJP, for its part should ask itself why Kejriwal and Co., in typical Gandhi style have usurped the Hindu Nationalist slogan “Bharat Mata ki Jai’. At least now, in 2014, four years after the writer’s book Eclipse of the Hindu Nation was published in 2009, the BJP should know that Gandhi usurped concepts, names and ideas associated with the three persons whom he had been mandated to diminish and dislodge from the political arena - Tilak, Aurobindo and Savarkar. America through the instrument of the Ford Foundation and expat IIT alumni abroad has launched Kejriwal only to de-stabilise the Modi juggernaut and you do not need the brains of a genius to see this. It is to be fervently hoped that the BJP and the RSS sit up now to take note of the dangers of anti-Hindu neo-Mahatmas and their mandated role to propel anti-Hindu neo-Nehrus.

The country may have to wait a few more years to get documented answers to these questions but until then the visibly distinct patterns of how since the Cold War years domestic events in countries are shaped by international forces led by America should suffice.

When Sardar Patel acquiesced to Gandhi and did not contest against Nehru for Presidentship of the INC, Sardar Patel, as much as Nehru, became instrumental in burdening the country with Nehru as first Prime Minister; the damage caused by Nehru to the Hindu Nation with his virulent anti-Hindu secularism is comparable only to the damage caused by Gandhi when Gandhi’s anti-Hindu political ideology gave away Hindu territory to the Muslim League. While Gandhi surrendered the nation’s territory to Abrahamic politics, Nehru mortgaged the nation’s mind to Abrahamic ideas.

Sixty-seven years after that fateful day in 1946, the BJP did a Patel; despite emerging as the single largest party in the Delhi elections, it refused to form the government and facilitated the rise of a man directly funded by America and Europe to become Chief Minister of Delhi. Kejriwal has admitted to the fact that not only did he receive funds from Ford Foundation but also from the Dutch Embassy! Why did Sonia Gandhi’s UPA allow foreign governments to directly fund NGOs in this country and why did the BJP remain silent until the RDX called America-controlled AAP blew in their faces?

The path-breaking book NGOs, Activists and Foreign Funds: Anti-Nation Industry published in 2006 by Vigil Public Opinion Forum described with painstaking detail how the Ford Foundation had penetrated and taken control of the World Social Forum, a giant international conglomerate of NGOs and professional political dissenters.

http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?op ... mitstart=9

http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?op ... itstart=10

In his brilliant chapter in the Vigil book on NGOs titled Scoring against Paganism: Untangling the Mander Web where DR. Kak with clinical precision unmasked Harsh Mander and Aruna Roy, Dr. Krishen Kak as early as 2006 pointed his finger directly at Arvind Kejriwal:

Consider another entity called Parivartan that explicitly states it is NOT an NGO. It is not registered under any Act as a society or a trust or a company. It is a people’s movement. For income tax purposes, it is an Association of Persons. Note that, for income tax purposes, an AoP is a coming together of persons with a profitmotive, and the members of an AoP (co-adventurers, in legal jargon) can have a share in the income of the AoP – unlike the members of a registered society who can have no such share. So who are the Parivartan AoP? Surely not its five full-time workers – they get salaries, and they include a serving government officer of the Indian Revenue Service. (http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?op ... itstart=8>)

Had the BJP taken serious note of the book which shook the intelligence community in the country, the party would not have sounded quite so unctuous about not wanting to form the government in Delhi. The BJP’s self-righteous posturing about Sonia Gandhi’s foreignness and about the Mahatmahood of Anna Hazare allowed the rise of Sonia Gandhi in 1998 and the rise of Kejriwal in 2013.

The BJP and the RSS failed to see the dangers of Anna Hazare and the Magsaysay riff-raff surrounding him in the movement for Jan Lok Pal. In the first chapter of the Vigil book on NGOs the writer had exposed how there was nothing Asian about the Magsaysay awards and that it was the very American Rockefeller Foundation award aimed at Asians who may be tempted, lured or bribed to serve American interests and that a large part of the money component of the award came from the Ford Foundation. (http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?op ... itstart=10)

America’s knives are out and aimed at Modi and if Modi must be Prime Minister in 2014, the BJP must begin to pay more attention to Aurobindo’s political writings prior to 1908 about knowing the enemy and employing the might of the kshatriya against the enemy. This means Modi’s war strategy must factor in not only the visible enemies at home but also the international forces behind his enemies.

Going by the fact that Narendra Modi has allowed America to build six nuclear reactors in Gujarat and the fact that the BJP has stood by and allowed the Ford Foundation to paratroop Arvind Kejriwal into the country’s political arena it is obvious the BJP has an inbuilt resistance to acting upon information and knowledge which can be used as ammunition against political adversaries. If proof were needed, see how the BJP took its eyes off Arvid Kejriwal and Co. and bayed for Justice Ganguly’s blood. Sonia Gandhi’s campaign against Justice Ganguly was the Congress’ third successful red herring, after Volcker and Mitrokhin to seduce the BJP’s focus away from the fish’s eye. The BJP chose to employ its lung power against Justice Ganguly when it ought to have exercised its mind power against Kejriwal.

Such is the lure of sirens peddling red herrings.

The writer undertook an in-depth scrutiny of NGOs and political activists when America refused to give visa to Narendra Modi (the organization which took credit for America’s action was Coalition against Genocide, yet another motley group of Muslim, Christian, Marxist anti-Hindu NGOs and political activists); and when Sonia Gandhi packed her National Advisory Council, Central Advisory Board on Education and the National Integration Council with Magsaysay awardees, Peace Prize awardees and foreign-funded shrill anti-Hindu political activists.

When the study revealed horrifying details about the quantum of foreign money being poured into India by foreign governments and government agencies besides monstrous funding agents like foreign churches, Ford Foundation, AID, and ActionAid ostensibly for social charity, a small group of determined Hindu nationalists came together to write the book on foreign funded NGOs and political activists. (http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?op ... Itemid=109)

The World Social Forum (2001) which grew out of the violent anti-globalization protests in Seattle in 1999 was the coming together of NGOs and social activists opposed to the WTO which they correctly perceived as a neo-colonial, exploitative mechanism of the developed world against developing nations of Africa, Asia and Latin America. In the beginning, the WSF positioned itself as being as much against globalization, embodied by the WTO as it was against the three BIG forces which were driving the WTO – Big governments, Big capital and Big banks. In the end, the World Social Forum ended up as a bunch of greedy NGOs and activists who needed big money to become the second pole in America’s uni-polar World Order.

The three BIGs did not arrive at where they are because they were foolish and short-sighted, or because they listened to the small voices inside them called conscience or because they had large hearts overflowing with the milk of human kindness or because they were driven by idealism. They are where they are – ruling the world after arranging the world in hierarchical pecking order (aka World Order old and new) because they are consumed by desire for power - absolute power to rule the world absolutely with all and every weapon, covert and overt. The New World Order like the New Testament is only Old World Order, which like the Old Testament has only been redefined with new idiom.

The content is unchanging and universal – conquest through brute power; the methods are also the same, only the weapons are more sophisticated and more precise; the sophistication lies in the fact that while the weapon is visible, the hand wielding the weapon is invisible, or well concealed. The well-nuanced and sophisticated partnership between the CIA and Ford Foundation to achieve America’s geopolitical objectives is a case in point.

The CIA uses philanthropic foundations as the most effective conduit to channel large sums of money to Agency projects without alerting the recipients to their source. From the early 1950s to the present the CIA's intrusion into the foundation field was and is huge. A U.S. Congressional investigation in 1976 revealed that nearly 50% of the 700 grants in the field of international activities by the principal foundations were funded by the CIA (Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War, Frances Stonor Saunders, Granta Books, 1999, pp. 134-135). The CIA considers foundations such as Ford "The best and most plausible kind of funding cover" (Ibid, p. 135). The collaboration of respectable and prestigious foundations, according to one former CIA operative, allowed the Agency to fund "a seemingly limitless range of covert action programs affecting youth groups, labor unions, universities, publishing houses and other private institutions" (p. 135). The latter included "human rights" groups beginning in the 1950s to the present. One of the most important "private foundations" collaborating with the CIA over a significant span of time in major projects in the cultural Cold War is the Ford Foundation. (http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PET209A.html)

The three BIGs have also perfected the skill of transforming every phenomenon, even adverse phenomenon to serve their agenda. The WTO had gathered at Washington State Convention and Trade Centre in Seattle for a fresh round of trade negotiations. America and other developed economies, the IMF and World Bank were taken by surprise at the mammoth gatherings outside hotels and the convention centre. It was estimated there were anywhere between 40,000 to 75,000 persons participating in the Great Seattle Protest of 1999.

The World Social Forum emerged from among the grassroots activists, organizations and thinkers who propelled the Seattle Protests. Seeing great potential in street protests and the simmering potential for street violence, America employed the CIA-Ford Foundation partnership to not only penetrate the WSF but also use the Ford Foundation’s money power to influence the WSF.

From the outset in 2001, the World Social Forum was funded by governments and corporate foundations, including the Ford Foundation which has ties to US intelligence.

The anti-globalization movement is opposed to Wall Street and the Texas oil giants controlled by Rockefeller, et al. Yet the foundations and charities of Ford, Rockefeller et al will generously fund progressive anti-capitalist networks as well as environmentalists (opposed to Wall Street and Big Oil) with a view to ultimately overseeing and shaping their various activities.

The mechanisms of “manufacturing dissent” require a manipulative environment, a process of arm-twisting and subtle co-optation of a small number of key individuals within “progressive organizations”, including anti-war coalitions, environmentalists and the anti-globalization movement. Many leaders of these organizations have in a sense betrayed their grassroots. ( Michel Chossudovsky, May 15, 2013, http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-anti-g ... le/5335181)

A similar umbrella organization of NGOs, religious minority groups and organizations, and political activists began to take shape in India in the aftermath of the Ayodhya movement in 1992. Three major movements in the 1990s decade brought this essentially anti-Hindu group together – the Ayodhya movement, the anti-Enron Corporation/anti-Coca Cola movement and the Narmada Bacchao Andolan brought together a motley group of activists of all persuasions who constituted themselves in 1996 as National Alliance of People’s Movements (NAPM). The quite marked anti-Hindu orientation of these NGOs became pronounced after India’s second nuclear tests in 1998 at Pokhran which this NGO conglomerate described loosely as the Hindu Bomb and cemented itself as America and Europe funded and supported megalithic human rights industry.

The CIA-Ford Foundation partnership was one of America’s most potent weapons against target countries not only because it combined state power with big money but also because it was America’s concealed weapon and a weapon which could be camouflaged to suit the context. Anna Hazare was one such weapon crafted to blunt Baba Ramdev’s explosive campaign against corruption. (http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RUP401A.html)

Kejriwal has admitted to receiving foreign funds not only from the Ford Foundation adn the Dutch Embassy but some several other sources.

In reply to an RTI query that questioned the funding and expenditure of Kabir, the organisation has disclosed that they have received funds from the Ford Foundation (Rs 86,61,742), PRIA (Rs 2,37,035), Manjunath Shanmugam Trust (Rs 3,70,000), Dutch Embassy (Rs 19,61,968), Association for India’s Development (Rs 15,00,000), India’s friends Association (Rs 7,86,500), United Nationals Development Programme (Rs12,52,742) while Rs 11,35,857 were collected from individual donations between 2007 to 2010.

The writer has consistently maintained that America has always used migrants and its expat populace to serve American interests in the target country. America has used expat Iraqis against Saddam Hussein, expat Cubans against Fidel Castro, expat Egyptians against Hosni Mubarak and is now using expat Indians, especially the IIT alumni living on American soil to dislodge Modi from the race for Prime Minister in the 2014 general elections. It is this community – deracinated NRIs and PIOs in American universities and other professions and the expat IIT alumni – which has put up Arvind Kejriwal as the man who will play spoiler. http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 556024.ece

The CIA-Ford Foundation has set about the task of keeping Modi out with precision planning and execution. With great foresight the Ford Foundation has funded not only NGOs but also Indian think tanks. The writer recalls a lengthy conversation she had with the spokesperson of the RSS in 2007 how not only NGOs but also Indian think-tanks are funded by the same American foundations and European funding agencies. Two such renowned Indian think-tanks aka research organizations to receive grants from the Ford Foundation are the Delhi-based Centre for Policy Research and Centre for the Study of Developing Societies or CSDS.

In classic Generic Church war tactic of playing both sides of any war, one of the leading lights from CSDS is now the ideologue of the AAP and the thinking head of this party while another lady from the CSDS has moved smartly into the Modi camp with a series of panegyric articles about Gujarat under Modi. The same lady held a conference on J&K in Delhi with known Kashmiri jihadis and secessionists in full attendance and as principal speakers in the conference.

It is not just Prashant Bhushan of the AAP who has an agenda on J&K; America too has a definite agenda on J&K and the web it has spun through the Ford Foundation funded CSDS will trap Modi too if the RSS, the BJP and Narendra Modi do not see the web and the almost invisible spider waiting watchfully for the prey to walk into the parlour.

Narendra Modi should open his eyes and mind wide enough to get a measure of the forces arraigned against him within and without the country. The RSS and the BJP ignored the threat from Anna Hazare and Kejriwal. It is their responsibility now to neutralise the threat to Modi.

Radha Rajan

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pankajs wrote:Ek Shahjada to doosra Jahanpanah! Dono ek hi maa ke betae.
Sonia saying: Mere do anmol ratan..ek hi gaddar tho ek dakkan!!!
read it somewhere here itself!
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no matter what Radha Rajan believes, in the case of Delhi, I think BJP was in no position to stop Kejri. ultimately, as long as INC was willing to support kejri, it was inevitable that they would form govt.

and as such, what exactly could the BJP have done? form a minority govt? Kejri's tactics were already very clear. he would have simply used his empowered opposition status to rabble-rouse on every occasion and crippled the in-power govt into paralysis. had BJP formed govt at Delhi, I think it would have been a far greater distraction to Modi than the current scenario. by stating clearly that they would not get into that dicey situation, they've made it possible for INC and Kejri to overtly come together. regardless of what the media says, the Delhi population will have definitely witnessed that there is fundamentally no difference between AK and INC. this is good.

AK has nowhere to go but DOWN, in Delhi. that's for sure.
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rohitv wrote:Prashant Bhushan now wants referendum in red corridor for the presence of security forces. Also wants naxals in AAP
*snip*
This snake is going around enlisting the support of all anti-nationals throughout India. So you have Naxals, Udayakumar in the kitty. I bet some of the AAPsoles are campaigning in the naxal corridor and the affected parts of NE.
And so it is comes to pass. If one is educated and have access to media and the internet and if one is still supporting AAP, one has to be either dumb, naxalite or both. How else can one justify their support to this anti national party. And the same useful ITvity guys, yumbeeaa idiots will be the first against the wall when the hardcore naxals and maoists take over the party. The PIOs and NRIs who support and donate to this monster better be either in China, Venezuela or North Korea. If you are in the Western democracy and support this maoist party you are hypocrite at best.
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Its good that BJP was not able to win in Delhi.One HVji is not enough.BJP cannot just piggyback on NaMO.The Congress arose out of a national movement on all fronts.The BJP has to outgrow its character/perception as a 'shopkeeper' party in many parts of India to be able to lead India.Stepping into Congress shoes as a national party is no easy task.
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RajeshA wrote:Many however still look at Indira fondly, though most hated Emergency.

Unlike other Congress leaders, both pre-Independence and post-Independence, BJP may embrace Sardar Vallabhai Patel, Lal Bahadur Shastri, even PV Narsimha Rao, but as far as Indira Gandhi is concerned, BJP can neither embrace her due to being daughter of JLN and due to Emergency, not can they really disown her due to 1971.
I think its because she was more nationalistic than the rest of the gandhis. She was power hungry though.

I am still advocating that NM should get the open support from mumbai dabba walas.. this will boost his popularity even further. If someone from team modi is reading, please tell him!
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Supratik wrote:Not in government but professionally.
His professional success is of no use in government as can very well be seen with the unconstitutional Aadahar fiasco. To top that he is a congi which increases his eww factor.
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Well I am pro-Adhaar. My point is that people with achievements should join politics. Otherwise it will remain the occupation of louts.
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Supratik wrote:Well I am pro-Adhaar. My point is that people with achievements should join politics. Otherwise it will remain the occupation of louts.
I agree, better than having a sole qualificiation of being a Son-of-XYZ, Daughter-of-XYZ, DIL-of-XYZ.
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Supratik wrote:Well I am pro-Adhaar. My point is that people with achievements should join politics. Otherwise it will remain the occupation of louts.
If you are pro all that, can you please let me know when I will get it? Been a year since I applied. Nothing to be seen and how many crores were spent for this achievement?
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another scam and you say you are pro adhaar ???
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Supratik wrote:Well I am pro-Adhaar. My point is that people with achievements should join politics. Otherwise it will remain the occupation of louts.
Well it's unconstitutional and of no practical use as well so good luck in defending Aadhar. People who know how to do politics and get their hands dirty must look for a good career in politics I don't buy the "achievement" crap and to prove my point I only have to say Man Mohan Singh. I wish you luck in defending your "achievement" theory as well.
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Karan M wrote:If you are pro all that, can you please let me know when I will get it? Been a year since I applied. Nothing to be seen and how many crores were spent for this achievement?
:lol: Shot yourself in the foot here saar and indirectly you also have egg on your face with Nilkeni. What made you go for it though ???
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Aadhar is scary because there's no law governing the whole thing. Without a parliament sanctioned mandate and regulations ensuring its integrity the entire project seems more like a creepy US sponsored idea, what with them being issued to illegal immigrants and shady characters. IMO its just an efficient way of distributing all the $$MNREGA$$.

Last few weeks have changed the dynamics completely. Kala angrez has raised the white flag and dienasty is on its last legs. pAAP might cut into BJP votes, but the damage can be mitigated to a great extent IF BJP booth level workers put in the hard work. I think pAAP did better than expected in delhi because of their door to door campaigning and follow up. Yogi Yadav & all that foreign moolah being put to good use. Surprisingly, bekar patel has the most succinct analysis.

I keep reading rumors of a massive blitzkrieg being planned by Modi and his team that will be unleashed soon. Wonder if there's any more info available about that.
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OT but a national ID card if used correctly has many benefits which I have explained previously on the relevant thread. FYI, it was the idea of the NDA Govt which was roundly criticized by leftists and they proposed the CT that it is anti-minority (read illegal immigrants). Illegal immigrants already have relevant documents. If you come to WB I will get you all the relevant documents in a month for a few thousand rupees. So it is irrelevant.

While achievements are not a guarantee that you will succeed in future viz the failure of MMS it is better than say a Laloo Yadav.
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All that is fine Supratikji but where is my card??

All these great benefits are all very well but where is my card??

BTW, Indian taxmoney went for this achievement by shri achiever. But where is my card??
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I fail to see how a person who presided over the most damaging decade for India post independence is better than Lalu Yadav.
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Lalu was a known crook. MMS an unknown one and hence took us all to the cleaners.
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This Aadhar is the biggest scam because of a simple thing. No darn outcome. Go to any documentation office, and they will go through the process and you do get the stuff. Aadhar? Where art thou? Mind you, even the card lines were being gamed on basis of contacts...otherwise, come back on nth day, n+1th day and so forth.
How many crores were spent in this mega massive success story, please?
Rs 3500 Crores till Sept 2013.
Kaveri program has spent Rs 2389 Crores.

And Aadhar is a sign of achievement? IMHO, its a train wreck.
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This character is another loon.

https://twitter.com/DrKumarVishwas/stat ... 68/photo/1

Now in this grade A chamchagiri article (matches whatever NYT puts out about its princes)
http://www.firstpost.com/politics/ambit ... 28379.html
Having dropped out of engineering college after listening to his "soul", he studied literature and poetry.

He topped again in his postgraduate course, this time in Hindi literature, setting a "still standing record of 76 per cent" for CCS University, Meerut (he studied in MMH College, Ghaziabad)."

Having taught in Rajasthan until 2000, he then joined Lala Lajpat Rai College in Ghaziabad from where he is now on leave without pay.
Drji, where does the moolah come from to pay off a house loan and other stuff? And Dr in what eggjactly?
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#NaMoInGoa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIyCOJMw_Pw


Karan M wrote: Drji, where does the moolah come from to pay off a house loan and other stuff? And Dr in what eggjactly?
Doctrate in BS & mass delusionalism. If you want to see his certificate, pls ask AK at the next dharbar
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Karan M wrote:All that is fine Supratikji but where is my card??

All these great benefits are all very well but where is my card??

BTW, Indian taxmoney went for this achievement by shri achiever. But where is my card??

I am not sure what happened in your case but my family got the card within six months.

Also, by achievements it doesn't have to be just professionals. Career politicians also need achievements e.g. NM vs RG. A modern state needs highly capable people to run it. The days where you could run it with ram, shyam, jadu, madhu is gone i.e. if you want to become a developed state fast. Imagine a company into hi-tech which wants to become an MNC.
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times have changed - a guy like kumar vishwas going to amethi, addressing a rally and openly calling Yuvraj a Chor and saying if people call him Joker , he is still better than a Chor and someone who sold the nation out.

can you imagine this happening in sanjay or indira gandhi era?
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Singha wrote:times have changed - a guy like kumar vishwas going to amethi, addressing a rally and openly calling Yuvraj a Chor and saying if people call him Joker , he is still better than a Chor and someone who sold the nation out.

can you imagine this happening in sanjay or indira gandhi era?
Then it is going by the Dynasty script. In Amethi there is a substantial following for Rahul Gandhi. Two-Thirds of that would be diverted to Kumar Vishvas as per the instructions of Rahul Gandhi himself. His political agents on the ground would ensure this.

Thing to watch would be whether Priyanka Vadra campaigns for Rahul Gandhi there or not. Most probably she would not be doing so.

More than the two-thirds of Rahul Gandhi's votebase, Kumar Vishvas would also be able to attract 40% (let's assume) of the anti-Rahul Gandhi votes. That means Sanjay Singh of BJP (though as yet Congress MP) would only get 60% of anti-Rahul Gandhi votes and thus lose.

Thus Rahul Gandhi would be able to "nominate" his successor from his seat: Kumar Vishvas. Kumar Vishvas would be promoted to a "giant killer".

It is okay to lose to Kumar Vishvas of AAP, a Dynasty's friend, than to a BJP man in Amethi.

As for Rahul Gandhi, if he is really interested in staying back in India, he could win a seat from Karnataka. In any case, it is becoming more and more apparent, that Congress base in UP is disappearing fast, so Dynasty may want to shift it out of UP to South India.
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ASmaKhanPathan tweeted these figures. Does any one know what is the source of thse sfigures?
There were 77,129 preventive arrests and 23,359 arrested for crimes during 2002 in Gujarat - 82,393 Hindus and 18,095 Muslims
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The is no way Rahul going to lose his seat. He is far too valuable for that. Of course he himself may not care or understand things. But top mafia leaders does. A person who does not win his own seat will have no following from others. If mafia wish to move to Europe like Mike leaving for Chicago from Newyark ? I am not sure but they always have a back up there. It is widely said that in 1977 defeat bothe mafia queen and her late husband sought refuse with Italians. So repeat of the same can not be ruled out. But in a media driven world particularly social media being so anti mafia if they do such things it will be all over the media and they may irreparably lose the party.
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devesh wrote:no matter what Radha Rajan believes, in the case of Delhi, I think BJP was in no position to stop Kejri. ultimately, as long as INC was willing to support kejri, it was inevitable that they would form govt.

and as such, what exactly could the BJP have done? form a minority govt? Kejri's tactics were already very clear. he would have simply used his empowered opposition status to rabble-rouse on every occasion and crippled the in-power govt into paralysis. had BJP formed govt at Delhi, I think it would have been a far greater distraction to Modi than the current scenario. by stating clearly that they would not get into that dicey situation, they've made it possible for INC and Kejri to overtly come together. regardless of what the media says, the Delhi population will have definitely witnessed that there is fundamentally no difference between AK and INC. this is good.

AK has nowhere to go but DOWN, in Delhi. that's for sure.
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Narayana Rao wrote:But in a media driven world particularly social media being so anti mafia if they do such things it will be all over the media and they may irreparably lose the party.
In Delhi, Congress grassroot workers were able to shift Congress vote-banks over to AAP. Congress MLA candidates lost. There was no media inspection of all this. Media was crazy only about the AAP miracle. How exactly it came about, didn't matter.

Dynasty's power in India does not derive from their personal popularity. It depends on being the center, the hub of the secularist network controlling the foreign networking, influence peddling, the consensus building, political blackmail and the money flows.

All this can be done from the background. In fact being a visible general decreases their power.
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Brilliant and awesome speech by Modi on at Goa..mesmerizing!!!
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Narendra Modi ripping into Delhi based media and AAP, that those faces on television are not the ones building the nation on the ground.
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