The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev II

[anmol]

Also, is there is a palace intrigue between ahmed patel & Rahul that forced the failure in LS ? Any thoughts on why the Constitutional amendement vote was lost - UPA was very confident of making it through , took 10 minutes after the vote for the reality to sink into the treasury benches , so something went wrong.

Remember Ahmad Patel's chelas in Lok Sabha defeated Rahul's "game changer" Constitution Amendment Bill.. by not voting. (Excuse was they had to attend dinshaw patel's daughters wedding)

Something going on between Ahmad Patel and Sonia

[Philip]

Mamata has her feel of the pulse o the people.They are not going to be swayed by words when embroiled in corruption scandals and her chances will be hit if she linked to a corrupt UPA as seen by the majority of Indians.I saw a brief part in the aft. when Jaitley and Yechury spoke.Both made their points very powerfully.The quote from the Constitution,by Yechury,"We the people of India .that is Bharat...a union of states...etc.",showing that in the context of the Bill,the states too would have to have their own LAs .and any dilution of the bill that affected the states went against the Constituion.

The result of this fiasco is that our beloved and "honourable" PM took his usual "maun" and shamefully fled from the House ,not to fight another day but to flee from it yet again one day! The Sino-Paki combine must be in the ICU room ,from suffering attacks of prolonged laughter! MMS's visage was a picture of utter discomfort and disgrace and he looked a defeated man.

[Muppalla]

By the way PM is the leader of RS and he did not make a statement all through the day and night. He was sitting there with pin-drop silence. In RS even Pranab Da did not make any statement. After all the backroom negotiations with TMC failed, they filibustered the bill by allowing the statements to go on and on until midnight. The RS chairman is hand-in-glove with the government and he just allowed the time to elapse. Vandemataram was rendered and he adjourned sine-die without voting. The government know that the bill will fall through. They do not want to accept CBI independence at any cost.

What is the big deal if it loses in RS? I beleive it does non want to expose chinks in its armour as the vote would have shown to the world its real strength. I beleive it will lose out even in a joint session if its allies like TMC and DMK are as adamant as they are today. Hence they postponed the stuff without even going through joint session route.

BJP should call for a no-confidence motion before elections in UP so that SP and BSP can be put to trouble of which side they are with respect to central government.

UPA-2 is more vulenerable than UPA-1 inspite of 208 seats that congress got. It is impossible to pass even simple bills without building consensus. INC doesn't like consensus and that is the problem and is evident. The country is in a deadlock with nothing getting done and the chances of getting out of this situation is remote as congress is not there in most of the states in India. It may have pulled a surprise by winning 208 seats but lost most of the states. This situation is not going to improve even a bit in the foreseeable future.

Imagine it losing any two states from Rajasthan, Delhi, Maharastra and AP in future. It will become more and more vulenerable. It simple should not pursue contentious issues and try to build a consensus and there is no otherway for it if it really want to govern the nation.

The Lokpal bill is the easiest thing to do. The opposition and its own allies are not asking too much. It should have shown the magnanimity and passed the bill. Instead it tried to roughshod its agenda of controlling the states Lokayuktas and not including a large babus into Lokpal.

I still cannot read Mamta's need to be belligerent as she is today. Something is cooking.

[Muppalla]

TMC joins axis of opposition to corner govt

NEW DELHI: An informal, but formidable axis of BJP, Left, AIADMK, BJD and Trinamool Congress gave the government a major headache by closely coordinating on three amendments relating to functioning of CBI, federal implications of Lokayuktas and appointment procedures for Lokpal that became the core of a common agenda.

Over the last two days, non-UPA parties held several meetings and discussions to firm up a joint front against the government on aspects of the Lokpal Bill over which they had a shared grouse. These amendments represent areas of agreement rather than clauses of the Bill like a minority quota over which BJP is isolated.

Aware that it must stick to neutral territory to sew up tactical alliances, BJP did not stress its discomfort with the minority reservation clause and chose to reach out to likely partners over the federalism plank as all regional parties are strongly opposed to any suggestion that the Centre mandate how the Lokayukta be formed. It shrewdly decided to back the Trinamool amendment.

The lynchpin of the alliance was Trinamool that shared common ground with other parties over their opposition to Lokayukta clauses and the UPA partner was more than ready to rise to the bait as it felt "hoodwinked" about the precise implications of the bill even after the government amended to its provisions in the Lok Sabha.

Trinamool leaders studied a draft amendment framed after their discussions with some Opposition parties but preferred one offered by AIADMK's V Maitreyan that sought a drastic reworking of the Lokpal Bill by deleting the entire Lokayukta chapter. Along with AIADMK, BJD and Shiromani Akali Dal, Trinamool submitted the amendment.

As it became apparent that Trinamool was serious about its opposition to a crucial aspect of the Bill, BSP and SP began to feel the heat too. The two regional parties were under pressure from non-UPA quarters for "bailing out" the Congress and it was suggested to them that they could support the common amendments as well as one seeking to refer the bill to a select committee for fresh consideration.

As in the crisis over foreign investment in multi-brand retail, Trinamool was the cornerstone of non-UPA unity along with the CPM that was also a key player in the floor strategy. While Congress leaders dubbed the alliance of dissimilar parties opportunistic, there was a strong confluence of political interests, as parties felt there was a real chance of blocking the government.

The CBI amendment was a sensitive issue for regional parties like SP and BSP as both benefitted by the Centre's control over the agency but their leaders have also been vulnerable for the same reason. Rather than isolating BJP-Left, the refusal of the government to cede administrative control of the agency and the separation of its investigative and prosecution functions only consolidated forces against the Bill.

[Muppalla]

Trinamul stirs BJPs federal friends dream

While the BJP has no illusion of trumping the Congress in the near future, its immediate tactic was to pander to the sentiment of “regional self-respect”.

“The state-level parties that are part of the UPA and those that are not have one refrain: the BJP treated them with more respect than does the Congress. What has the Congress given Mamata? It hasn’t even picked the right kind of person to mediate with her. Atalji (A.B. Vajpayee) always spoke directly with her in a crisis,” a BJP source said.

Restoring the “izzat” of federal parties is the BJP’s new catch phrase. From the Jan Sangh’s credo of unitarianism — encapsulated in its commitment to a “strong” Centre — to Vajpayee’s flexibility towards allies, BJP leaders claimed it would travel “several miles” to net friends, even if it means giving up on its ideological certitudes.

[niran]

The result of this fiasco is that our beloved and "honourable" PM took his usual "maun" and shamefully fled from the House ,not to fight another day but to flee from it yet again one day! The Sino-Paki combine must be in the ICU room ,from suffering attacks of prolonged laughter! MMS's visage was a picture of utter discomfort and disgrace and he looked a defeated man.

i disagree here saar, MMS is a Sarkari babu, he along with others in INC had been working
to nullify what yuvraj and rajmata been working i.e. to dethrone MMS by shaming him and polishing yuvraj, remember during the August fiasco MMS was to deliver a speech in Loksabha and it is believed he was to concede to the AH Lokpal, Yuvraj rushed to his residence 1 hour before the address and the he Yuvraj read a speech babbling about the
a Lokpal as his dream, this was designed to polish his image.

the clan thought that by encasing the constitutional amendment with Yuvraj name all would roll over and lick their feet(yeah! this is utmost living in la la landisque but it is the truth) here MMS with his babu method made BSP and SP to walk out right at the opportune moment and the clan had eggs on their face, in RS yesterday evening MMS went to have a chat with rajmata Dada with BSP & SP most proily telling rajmata that they have no numbers and SP and BSP started voicing their opposition loudest around 20 hundred hours and the result is the clan sucking their respective thumbs and MMS lives to enjoy his PM days longer.

have watched MMS reducing the high and mighty chinese hu jinwhatever to a mere babbling shivering red in the face school girl in a mater of seconds by just his steady gaze and steely hand shake so the man has balls and he knows how to use it with his head a very deadly combination. no?

[SwamyG]

Considering the fact that INC tried to usher in minorities quota, it was already set for tamasha. INC had to redefine 'minorities' based on class and not on 'religion' - so it brought in SC/ST, OBCs, Women and religious minorities. Do they truly care about these people or is it just an election ploy? Considering INC's past, my bet is that it was just geared towards elections. Uttar Pradesh?

[Murugan]

I found RS chairmain fidgeting. Sometimes confused, sometimes "why I am here" kinda look...

[SwamyG]

Almost all the regional parties are headed by charismatic leaders, who operate the parties as if they are the King or Queen and everyone should dance to the whims and fancies of their tunes. INC is dynastic - clearly. BJP appears like a headless chicken. Trucking with Mamta or JJ is striking deals with snakes - you feed them eggs and milk, they will catch the mice and strike you too.

Coalition democracy at its best.

[chetak]

I found RS chairmain fidgeting. Sometimes confused, sometimes "why I am here" kinda look...

Do not be fooled by this man. He has serious ambitions of making it to president and will conduct himself accordingly to curry favor and do some subtle dancing to the rajmata's devious tunes.

[Sri]

Loved the congress chankian in this... What else do the people here expect? Ruling party cannot accept a defeat on floor of the house. No immediate danger for Government if it looses on a bill but morally and psychologically it's a BIG blow... Lokpal is now defeated approx 8 times in 40 years.... Politicians will never allow it. The RJD fellow aptly named 'Rajniti Prasad' quite openly later said 'I am not Kalidas, who will cut the branch he is sitting on."

Government of Maharashtra was the knight in dark horse along with Mumbai high court who managed to crush the AH gathering.

Mamta, Nitish, Jaylalitha, most BJP CMs have solid mass base they can never be held hostage by mob politics. MMS on the other hand has no mass base, so he almost always goes by the media hogwash. Hence these regional satraps let him have his day in LS and pulled the carpet under his feet in RS (may be with consent on Sonia). Notice the light weights who tried to defend the bill in RS from congress's end. No support came from congress even from outside the parliament. Pranab / PC / Sibal / Saint Antony no one even gave a sound bite let alone the Gandhi family and it's close associates. With no cue coming and TMC leading the charge, it was acceptable for INC to lose out them instead of BJP. Thats what happened.

[lakshmikanth]

I have this pet theory that for the time that it has ruled the nation kaangrez has successfully kept the middle class disillusioned and hopeless and the lower class hopeful. This is the only way they know to get elected again, and this is why they will never allow the lower class to graduate to middle class or resist it to the maximum extent possible.

[Aditya_V]

Sensing a real defeat, the government and RS chairman collided and adjorned the house without a vote. He adjorned sine die. The government ran away from parliament.

Not really the undeclared Allies of the INC, BSP and SP, can't vote with it before the UP elections or this Tamasha will be brought again before the Public, after UP elections they will vote with the INC.

These have never voted against the INC in a crucial time, they are allies but can't be disclosed to the public. None can govern in UP so they dont want the SP-BSP_INC combine VS BJP as all 3 would lose. In the present set up one of them in always in power.

[Sanku]

I beleive it does non want to expose *deleted* in its armour as the vote would have

O boy the pleasures of politically-auto-correct.

[Philip]

"Steely ghoolies?" I think the man is more like that legendary Chinese admiral Zheng He.You will no doubt remember his deficiencies! Such types are indeed crafty to the extreme,cunning and canny,and as you correctly said,keeps his own interests first,the devil tke the hindmost.However,watching his face,which showed extreme discomfort,the farce of the passing of the Jokepal bill is yet another would to his leadership.He stands exposed for taking everyone for e ride.The longer MMS is at the helm of the UPA,its political fortunes will diminish by the day.The Congress' only hope is that Rahul G with a "fresh" and untinted image will gather enough young votes for the party to make a comebakck in states crucial to its re-election next time round.MMS is now a tin can past its sell-by date and is sitting on the hslf waiting for the moment when the Congress "cook" reaches fo it to throw it ino the garbage bin!

[somaz]

Priceless when sagarika Ghosh says "That Fine Bhupen Thanks very much indeed for joining us Mr jetmalani" and then RJ smiles and says " your people are waiting to go to the parlor" and she immediately tried to frame some inane question with no conviction and he kept getting up to leave and end her humiliation - priceless esp from 4:45 to 5:10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... UHz0#t=54s

Amazing the vacant intellect & condescending attitude

[Aditya_V]

I have this pet theory that for the time that it has ruled the nation kaangrez has successfully kept the middle class disillusioned and hopeless and the lower class hopeful. This is the only way they know to get elected again, and this is why they will never allow the lower class to graduate to middle class or resist it to the maximum extent possible.

This has always been the INC and left Policy in India for the last 60 years which suits elite outside India. A small super duper rich elite, a smallish electorally impotent middle class and huge percentage of people below poverty living on handouts who are easily bribe able and mislead.

There is a saying, Haath KO Garibi sey Pyaar hai , garibhon sey nahin. So that perpetually, Garibi Hatah oo is the policy. The dislike India being confident and never come out with a positive policy like India Shining talking about their governance. They go to elections only using their PR wings (Oops Media) to demonise their opponents.

[lakshmikanth]

Like our Hakim sahib says, piskologically there is an enormous disconnect between the middle class/educated folks in India and the real India. This discrepancy is so huge, that the leaders can be flippant and not give a flying **** about what the middle class thinks, because their strategists (goons) have figured out how to win the elections, which is the bottom line

What AH movement did was to shake this confidence in the super-rich political elites that they can get away with ruling the nation like kings. It gave the one thing to the middle class that it did not have so far: Hope!

Hope is a dangerous thing, especially if you are in no position to deliver anything to the population that is hoping for something. This is why there was browning of pants in the Kangi camp with everyone from the second Queen of India to the local goon on the street. It was an open threat to the only way they know how to make money and stay in power, and through that the only way they know how to live comfortably.

However, the fasting aspect of AHs strategy turned this into a blinking match. Whoever blinks last wins, and the incumbent power has a large advantage there. Congress did just that towards the end. They saw that support for AH was dwindling (i.e. a lot of people were losing hope) and they decided to kill the Bill.

IMHO I think AH movement is dead, the emotion of "hope" is already dead among the people. The anger is there, but hey we lived through far worse time for 200 years of history ruled by one looter or another and large part of our populace were hopeless but did nothing. This ray of hope will also meet the same fate.

The media is making sure whatever hope is remaining is being killed. Look at any of the reports on any newspaper.

[SwamyG]

Like our Hakim sahib says, piskologically there is an enormous disconnect between the middle class/educated folks in India and the real India. This discrepancy is so huge, that the leaders can be flippant and not give a flying **** about what the middle class thinks, because their strategists (goons) have figured out how to win the elections, which is the bottom line

However, it has to be borne in mind that the vast majority of the Indian population are not middle-class. The wealth and life style disparity of Indians is very large. We are still a poor and developing country when one measures material wealth.

[lakshmikanth]

Like our Hakim sahib says, piskologically there is an enormous disconnect between the middle class/educated folks in India and the real India. This discrepancy is so huge, that the leaders can be flippant and not give a flying **** about what the middle class thinks, because their strategists (goons) have figured out how to win the elections, which is the bottom line

However, it has to be borne in mind that the vast majority of the Indian population are not middle-class. The wealth and life style disparity of Indians is very large. We are still a poor and developing country when one measures material wealth.

Yes, I meant exactly that when I said there is an enormous disconnect between the middle class and the rest of the country. The disconnect is precisely because the middle class is not the vast majority of the people, who happen to be destitute. It is these people who are given hope, freebies and made addicted to the NREGA drugs. It is these people that will be kept eternally poor and hopeful by the Kangi political goons. Them not getting into the middle class is the only way the Kangeez can retain and hold on to power thereby securing a comfortable life for themselves.

[SwamyG]

I doubt any political party is deliberately keeping anybody in poverty. Hope is a good thing, people need hope to live. When we lose hope, we lose a whole lot. One just cannot ignore all the development of the country since Independence. No single party can stop development in such a vast country as ours.

[lakshmikanth]

They are not deliberately keeping people in poverty, atleast that is not the end. It is however a means to remain in power.

Example: NREGA, which decreases productivity causing small business folks to raise prices, causing inflation and ending up hurting the people it was supposed to help. Keep digging into the welfare policies that the second Queen of India has initiated through the extra-constitutional NAC body, and you will see the welfare pattern emerge. It is an attempt to keep people who use it hopeful, but all it does it keep them poor.

The reason India is developing so fast (atleast until now) is that historically the systemic inefficiencies were so enormous that making incremental reforms paid huge dividends. Kangi goons have effectively put the breaks on it.

Another example of maintaining systemic inefficiencies is the license raj resulting in Nehru Growth rate prior to 1990s, removal of which resulted in 9% TFTA growth rate for a few years.

[SwamyG]

NREGA ityadi are double edged. Political parties are damned by us if they do or not. Some policies and efforts will not reach all the people, and some of them will be abused by some people and politicians (and middle men). It is the some INC that instituted the reforms - PVNR, MMS and PC were at the fore-front when it happened.

[lakshmikanth]

^^^ PVNR was the man, and it was a desperate attempt. Mostly they were just knew what to do to make the treasury go from the red to green. The political will was not there to do it until we had to pawn off our gold. If the treasury was where it is today, I am sure license raj would have continued for a few more decades.

PVNR was a genuine leader among the filth that is INC (and Indian politics in general). MMS and PC were present in UPA1 and UPA2, and we got 1,70,000 crore loss on the exchequer, plus we are now officially reverting back to the Nehru Growth Rate (3 - 5%)

EDIT: I came across a research on public spending in India, it seems for a fund allocation amount of say X, 0.05X reaches the poor, the rest is gobbled up by the middle men. This has been tradition from the Raj days. So any govt scheme should be viewed as catering to two people, the middle men who are few in number but get a large chunk and the target population which is usually huge in numbers but get a very abyssmal share

[sum]

^^ Have to say that it was definitely some MMS v/s G-khandaan proxy fight here because CNN-IBN had predicted at 10 PM yestreday night that govt will cause a diversion to avoid vote and the man causing the diversion would be RJD's Rajneeti Prasad!!

Exactly the same happened at 12 AM!
Wonder who scripted this drama and informed Rajdeep, G-madam or MMS?

[Sri]

Actually IBN was accurate even with the members (Rajniti Prasad and all) who will create ruckus. It was clear on Wednesday that there will be no vote. What strategy was the question. Government's initial strategy was bring up the reservation issue and have BJP up in arms. BJP correctly expecting the same did not take the bait. They kept pressure on the federal structure.

Once TMC on floor announced it's position it was game over.

[chetak]

Considering the fact that INC tried to usher in minorities quota, it was already set for tamasha. INC had to redefine 'minorities' based on class and not on 'religion' - so it brought in SC/ST, OBCs, Women and religious minorities. Do they truly care about these people or is it just an election ploy? Considering INC's past, my bet is that it was just geared towards elections. Uttar Pradesh?

Usher in or sneak in?

[Murugan]

Gandhiji and his agitation took 32 years to kick out gore angrez from India.

Subhash Babu - 23 years.

The whole movement, if we start with Lokmanya Tilak - from 1897 when he started agitating against gora - 50 years, half century

So all in all it took at least 50 years to get rid of gore angrez because they were little better. Dealing with Kaale angrez, it may take longer. It is not easy.

[Virupaksha]

http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/rajdeepsard ... -govt.html

Rajdeep has written about anna in his blog, some tantalizing hints about the inner networks which worked to create Anna.

--snipped--

Till April 9, Anna was just another voice in the ongoing debate over an anti-corruption law. The singular act of agreeing to formally negotiate with his appointees on the Lokpal automatically legitimized him and his 'team' as the sole spokespersons for 'civil society'. Suddenly, confined to the margins were equally respected figures

--snipped--

To compound the political error, all nominees on the government side were Congress ministers, effectively making the negotiations a Congress versus Team Anna exercise

--snipped--

During Anna's April fast, the backdrop had been a large Bharat Mata poster with Baba Ramdev sharing stage space and Art Of Living Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's supporters providing vocal support. By August, when Anna fasted at Ram Lila Maidan, the Bharat Mata poster had been replaced by a Mahatma Gandhi portrait, Ramdev had disappeared, and even Sri Sri was a peripheral presence.

When 2G was in full swing, Anna and lokpal was beautifully used as a blow out panel.

Have to bow to these master networks of congress and their ability to dilute their future problems.

[Pranay]

Priceless when sagarika Ghosh says "That Fine Bhupen Thanks very much indeed for joining us Mr jetmalani" and then RJ smiles and says " your people are waiting to go to the parlor" and she immediately tried to frame some inane question with no conviction and he kept getting up to leave and end her humiliation - priceless esp from 4:45 to 5:10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... UHz0#t=54s

Amazing the vacant intellect & condescending attitude

A Congress Party full of political hacks with intellectual bankruptcy and the same syndrome reflected in vast segments of the Indian electronic media... where does the average Indian go for objectivity?

TV anchors with false accents, zero intellect and unwillingness and/or inability to connect obvious dots in the context of the news they cover. Heights of yellow journalism...

From it's actions, it is becoming abundantly clear that the party of the founding fathers (and mothers) of the country - the Congress Party - has degenerated into a cabal of non-entities with a sense of entitlement, and the organization as such has morphed into a parasitic entity on the body politic of the country.

If only MKG had been successful in disbanding the Congress after Independence, as was his wish. He saw this coming...

[Pranay]

http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=745992

RJD MP Rajniti Prasad, who was seen tearing copy of Lokpal Bill in Rajya Sabha, today said there was no "match-fixing" between his party and the Congress to scuttle voting on the legislation and that he had reacted only on the "spur of the moment".

Prasad said he has no repentance about what he did (tearing it).

"There was no match-fixing between RJD and Congress to scuttle the Lokpal Bill in Rajya Sabha...I reacted angrily to the Bill on the spur of the moment...I have no repentance (on what I did)," Prasad, a close aide of RJD President Lalu Prasad, told PTI.

His party colleague Ramkripal Yadav echoed similar views.

"Since the government did not give any satisfactory reply to our queries regarding how the reservation for SC, ST, OBC, Minorities and Women would apply when there will be only four members from non-judicial side in the selection committee, we could not resist ourselves and staged protest," Yadav said.

Yadav said RJD would continue to protest the Lokpal Bill in the present form even in the future.

Prasad and Yadav were seen trooping into the well of the House and shouting slogans when Union Minister V Narayansamy was speaking after end of debate.

While they were busy in staging noisy protest, RJD supremo Lalu Prasad was present in the Lok Sabha members' gallery of the Upper House calmly watching the scene.

Another RJD Rajya Sabha MP Zabir Hussain, who was also present in the house but did not join the duo in the protest, said he was also agitated over the question of reservation in the anti-graft body.

However, Hussain said he did not join the protest as he had served as chairman of Bihar Legislative Council for nearly a decade.

RJD has four members in the Upper House. The fourth one Prem Chand Gupta, who was a minister in the UPA I, also did not stage a noisy protest.

While the RJD members are non-repentant on manner of their protest, JD(U) alleged it was a "match-fixing" between Congress and RJD to scuttle the Bill in the Rajya Sabha.

JD(U) leader in Rajya Sabha Shivanand Tiwari said after this action RJD president Lalu Prasad would further invite wrath of the people.

[Pranay]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 302612.cms

Putting up a brave front after it failed to muster the numbers in the Rajya Sabha, the government on Friday said the Lokpal Bill will "definitely" be brought before the Rajya Sabha during the Budget session even as Congress leader Digvijay Singh defended the move saying extension of the House last night was not possible.

"Definitely we will bring it in March in the Budget session...we have to study the 187 amendments brought by Opposition parties as most are overlapping. Some amendments relate to only a part of a clause and not the entire clause, some demand removing the entire part of the bill," minister of state for personnel V Narayanasamy said.

He said after going through the amendments, the government will take a call on what to accept and what to reject and get back to the Opposition parties.

Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh tweeted this morning saying "187 Amendments given till 6 pm on the day of debate and those too contradictory to each other. Extension of the House not within powers of RS (Rajya Sabha)."

[Murugan]

During Anna's April fast, the backdrop had been a large Bharat Mata poster with Baba Ramdev sharing stage space and Art Of Living Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's supporters providing vocal support. By August, when Anna fasted at Ram Lila Maidan, the Bharat Mata poster had been replaced by a Mahatma Gandhi portrait, Ramdev had disappeared, ...

Rajdeep reads BR it seems.

[Pranay]

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/l ... /219807?hp

BJP's Arun Jaitley and Sushma Swaraj press conference on last night's RS episode.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/i ... /219802?hp

...and the Parliamentary malcontent (Rajniti Prasad).

[suryag]

Folks i am confused why not empower CVC rather than bringing in another body called Lokpal

[devaraj_d]

Folks i am confused why not empower CVC rather than bringing in another body called Lokpal

I am assuming that you did not watch the video of Arvind Kejriwal's speech that was posted in BR a few months back. AFAI remember from that video CVC has only ~350 employees and so far it has not been successful.

IMHO the reason is CVC is set up GOI which makes sure that it cannot turn against its masters. We need an independent set up.

[Manish_Sharma]

The Congress' only hope is that Rahul G with a "fresh" and untinted image will gather enough young votes for the party to make a comebakck in states crucial to its re-election next time round.

Untinted ??

I agree protected by con party never giving interviews, no talk shows and the proof of his great brain and sporty skills:



While we make fun of NOKO's deal leadel & his son, here is the general knowledge of our next untinted deal leadel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdZ3VpBX ... re=related

[Philip]

Freudian slip Manish,but in the light of SS's most interesting clip,one needs to look at him with tinted specs!

[Pranay]

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndtv-s ... topstories

2011 People Power - Arvind Kejriwal eloquently replies NDTV's Prannoy Roy, Shekhar Gupta & Narayan Murthy (Note canned and mischievously edited and worded NDTV precursor to the "talk").

[somaz]

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/ndtv-s ... topstories

2011 People Power - Arvind Kejriwal eloquently replies NDTV's Prannoy Roy, Shekhar Gupta & Narayan Murthy (Note canned and mischievously edited and worded NDTV precursor to the "talk").

Never a big fan of Mr Narayana Murthy , after this interview am convinced that his inputs should be treated as some well-intentioned uncle living in 19th century.

Funny that Sekhar & Roy are actually so out of touch with the country that it was funny to even think they claim the moral high ground.

Had met Sekar & Naik (NDA Petro Minister) in 2002 , he seemed a sensible man who just talked bit more than needed. Never realized he is actually a total sell-out