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shiv wrote: OT but also not OT

The KGA golf course in Bangalore has a healthy population of friendly strays - all neutered and vaccinated as is the norm in Bangalore (as indicated by a notch cut in one ear). The course played host to a high profile international tournament at which time all the strays were put in a shed and fed biriyani all day and set free after the tournament. One stray escaped this treatment and was seen on the course during the tournament and was chased here and there to indicate great diligence of the ground staff.

Pakistani and Indian border troops along the Line of Control (LoC) on Monday exchanged sweets at three places in Jammu and Kashmir on the occasion of India's Republic Day, said a report published on Indian Express.A unit of 12 Infantry Brigade of the Indian Army exchanged sweets with Pakistani troops at Kaman Post in Uri sector on Srinagar-Muzaffarabad Road, the report quoted defence sources as saying.Troops also exchanged sweets at Teetwal in Tangdhar sector of Kashmir and at Chakan-da-Bagh in Poonch Sector of Jammu region.Despite ceasefire violations and violence in the disputed Himalayan region, the exchange of sweets between Indian and Pakistan army personnel along the LoC on their respective days of national importance has been a recurring feature.

Jhujar wrote:Pakistani, Indian troops exchange sweets at LoC on Republic Day
Now Poaqrioach will fight Jihad over eating sweets

( SDRE Transforming into BBRE= Big Bad Rat Exterminator & looking twice as Big than Poaqachoo. )

KJo wrote:

Jhujar wrote:Pakistani, Indian troops exchange sweets at LoC on Republic Day
Now Poaqrioach will fight Jihad over eating sweets

( SDRE Transforming into BBRE= Big Bad Rat Exterminator & looking twice as Big than Poaqachoo. )

Ok, it's high time we completely STOP this gay practice.

Just enough time to load the Pakistani Ambassador, caught after running on to the grounds where BO was getting Guard of Honor and Dignity.
UBCNews confirms that this was actually a mission to deliver a Paki to RAW.

UlanBatori wrote:So why did this make it into the media? If all they did was refuel, they could have just landed and pulled up to the fueling station, whatever. Where was the need for the big black SUV with the blacked-out windows, in a convoy of 4 vehicles including 2 Army Jeeps and one other SUV obviously containing armed RAW personnel? Plus the extreme secrecy where they pulled a closed ladder up to the plane, pulled the vehicles close around the gate, and had several people armed with machine guns facing OUTWARD from the plane while they were doing whatever? And the convoys sped away within 10 minutes.

It’s best practice to avoid whiskey routes in your flight-planning process. W (“Whiskey”) airways in India are strictly for domestic carriers and use. However, when there’s no viable alternative between city pairs, these routings can occasionally be approved for use by non-Indian-registered aircraft. Also, keep in mind that you can operate through Indian airspace without an overflight permit, as long as you’re not crossing over the landmass.

Due to disputes between India and Pakistan, only one airway is available from eastern Pakistan into India. No airways are available over Kashmir, a disputed region between India and Pakistan, so you will not be able to overfly this airspace. Another thing to keep in mind is that operating minimums can vary between government and military-run airfields. You may be able to land at a civilian airfield with 1,000-foot visibility, but the military airport may tell you not to land unless visibility is 3,700 feet.

Pakistan-registered aircraft can operate into India only at Mumbai (VABB) and Delhi (VIDP). All aircraft flying into Kashmir must be on designated and approved air routes. However, all aircraft entering into military-controlled airfields, or overflying, are to be in positive contact with Point Alpha and Northern Control. It’s also important to note that any aircraft having air drop capability must be pre-approved through the Ministry of External Affairs.

UlanBatori wrote:So why did this make it into the media? If all they did was refuel, they could have just landed and pulled up to the fueling station, whatever. Where was the need for the big black SUV with the blacked-out windows, in a convoy of 4 vehicles including 2 Army Jeeps and one other SUV obviously containing armed RAW personnel? Plus the extreme secrecy where they pulled a closed ladder up to the plane, pulled the vehicles close around the gate, and had several people armed with machine guns facing OUTWARD from the plane while they were doing whatever? And the convoys sped away within 10 minutes.

dont recall anything escalating to airspace closure after this and PIA has obviously been using the flexibility in routine operations:

With all due respect and reverence what is the source reporting the "Bolden Part".

partha wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1159463/pakist ... gic-vision

Pakistan sneaks into US-India strategic vision

NEW DELHI: President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi agreed on a joint strategic vision for regions straddling Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean on Sunday, but a close reading of the pact indicates a crucial role for Pakistan, though it was not named, as a conduit for carrying the proposed cooperation into Central Asia.

Analysts said reference to people-to-people linkages in the Obama-Modi document was lifted from the standard formulae used for years in Indo-Pakistan dialogues. Moreover, the mention of Central Asia as a destination for all round connectivity was a clear give away for Pakistan’s role since neither China, nor Russia or Iran could be in the minds of the signatories.

Blow to H&D. Pakis reduced to having to closely read India-US pacts to feel good about themselves by making assumptions which may or may not be true.

Peregrine wrote:

UlanBatori wrote:So why did this make it into the media? If all they did was refuel, they could have just landed and pulled up to the fueling station, whatever. Where was the need for the big black SUV with the blacked-out windows, in a convoy of 4 vehicles including 2 Army Jeeps and one other SUV obviously containing armed RAW personnel? Plus the extreme secrecy where they pulled a closed ladder up to the plane, pulled the vehicles close around the gate, and had several people armed with machine guns facing OUTWARD from the plane while they were doing whatever? And the convoys sped away within 10 minutes.

Ulan Batori Ji :

With all due respect and reverence what is the source reporting the "Bolden Part".

Cheers

UlanBatori wrote:Also BTW, are u saying that you have seen any reports that the black SUV's windows were NOT blacked out? Or that it stayed more than 10 minutes near the plane with the INSAS-wielding squad around it?

partha wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1159463/pakist ... gic-vision

Pakistan sneaks into US-India strategic vision

NEW DELHI: President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Narendra Modi agreed on a joint strategic vision for regions straddling Asia-Pacific and Indian Ocean on Sunday, but a close reading of the pact indicates a crucial role for Pakistan, though it was not named, as a conduit for carrying the proposed cooperation into Central Asia.

Analysts said reference to people-to-people linkages in the Obama-Modi document was lifted from the standard formulae used for years in Indo-Pakistan dialogues. Moreover, the mention of Central Asia as a destination for all round connectivity was a clear give away for Pakistan’s role since neither China, nor Russia or Iran could be in the minds of the signatories.

Blow to H&D. Pakis reduced to having to closely read India-US pacts to feel good about themselves by making assumptions which may or may not be true.

KLNMurthy wrote:The logic of the paki mind is that India and the US desperately need strategically located bakistan for their agenda, therefore bakistan can and should demand bissful settlement of cashmere, otherwise the southasia will remain poor and riddled with terrorism and bolio.

UlanBatori wrote:So why did this make it into the media? If all they did was refuel, they could have just landed and pulled up to the fueling station, whatever. Where was the need for the big black SUV with the blacked-out windows, in a convoy of 4 vehicles including 2 Army Jeeps and one other SUV obviously containing armed RAW personnel? Plus the extreme secrecy where they pulled a closed ladder up to the plane, pulled the vehicles close around the gate, and had several people armed with machine guns facing OUTWARD from the plane while they were doing whatever? And the convoys sped away within 10 minutes.

Peregrine wrote:Ulan Batori Ji :

With all due respect and reverence what is the source reporting the "Bolden Part".

Cheers

deejay wrote:I think I know: UBNC

P. S. AFAIK, most of the CAR Trade is by Rail to Europe - China.

I'll never go to pakistan again?

UlanBatori wrote: Last Fall they demonstrated a passenger train trip from China to Spain. Presumably that route went through LaHore and K'rachi, changing engines in Gujranwala. :

Aditya_V wrote:Is the Pakistani Fuel crisis so bad that PAF needs to come to India to find enough fuel for Singapore?

ISLAMABAD: The Senate Standing Committee on Defence was informed on Monday that the United States has assured Pakistan that Tehreek-i-Taliban (TTP) Chief Mullah Fazlullah would either be arrested or killed in Afghanistan, officials who attend the meeting told Daily Times.The officials further said that in case of an arrest he (Fazlullah) would be subsequently handed over to Pakistan. Briefing the Committee in parliament house, defence officials said that during his long visit to the US, Chief of Army Staff (COAS) Gen Raheel Sharif had also presented vital evidence of Indian involvement in subversive activities in Pakistan by using Afghan soil to top US intelligence and defence officials. The committee further informed that the US would also give Pakistan $1 billion this year under the Coalition Support Fund (CSF). The committee was briefed that the US would further give Pakistan used defence equipment to meet its security challenges for which the process had already begun.The Senate Standing Committee on Defence was given an in-camera detailed briefing by the Secretary Defence Lt. General (R) Alam Khattak on recently held Pak-US Strategic Dialogue and visit of the Chief of Army Staff to USA. .At the outset, the Committee offered Fateha for late King Abdullah and offered condolences to the Saudi Royal Family. Senator Mushahid, in his remarks, eulogized services of late King Abdullah and termed his death a great loss to the Muslim Ummah as he had worked with zeal and devotion for the unity of Muslims. The late King, Senator Mushahid observed, was a great friend to Pakistan and helped Pakistan in the hour of need.

Shreeman wrote:^^^ sound logic, if you ask me. how will you beg unless crippled by polio?

Jhujar wrote:Evidence of Indian hand in terror acts in Pakistan handed over to US

. . . the US would further give Pakistan used defence equipment to meet its security challenges for which the process had already begun. . .

SSridhar wrote:{quote="Jhujar"}Evidence of Indian hand in terror acts in Pakistan handed over to US

. . . the US would further give Pakistan used defence equipment to meet its security challenges for which the process had already begun. . . {/quote}

This is significant. The long stay in the US resulted in finalization of what would be haonded over to TSPA from Afghanistan, perhaps.

UlanBatori wrote: Also BTW, are u saying that you have seen any reports that the black SUV's windows were NOT blacked out? Or that it stayed more than 10 minutes near the plane with the INSAS-wielding squad around it?

Shreeman wrote:

UlanBatori wrote:So why did this make it into the media? If all they did was refuel, they could have just landed and pulled up to the fueling station, whatever. Where was the need for the big black SUV with the blacked-out windows, in a convoy of 4 vehicles including 2 Army Jeeps and one other SUV obviously containing armed RAW personnel? Plus the extreme secrecy where they pulled a closed ladder up to the plane, pulled the vehicles close around the gate, and had several people armed with machine guns facing OUTWARD from the plane while they were doing whatever? And the convoys sped away within 10 minutes.

Ok, curious enough for me. this says blanket bsns was taken off, dont recall anything escalating to airspace closure after this and PIA has obviously been using the flexibility in routine operations:

It’s best practice to avoid whiskey routes in your flight-planning process. W (“Whiskey”) airways in India are strictly for domestic carriers and use. However, when there’s no viable alternative between city pairs, these routings can occasionally be approved for use by non-Indian-registered aircraft. Also, keep in mind that you can operate through Indian airspace without an overflight permit, as long as you’re not crossing over the landmass.

Due to disputes between India and Pakistan, only one airway is available from eastern Pakistan into India. No airways are available over Kashmir, a disputed region between India and Pakistan, so you will not be able to overfly this airspace. Another thing to keep in mind is that operating minimums can vary between government and military-run airfields. You may be able to land at a civilian airfield with 1,000-foot visibility, but the military airport may tell you not to land unless visibility is 3,700 feet.

Pakistan-registered aircraft can operate into India only at Mumbai (VABB) and Delhi (VIDP). All aircraft flying into Kashmir must be on designated and approved air routes. However, all aircraft entering into military-controlled airfields, or overflying, are to be in positive contact with Point Alpha and Northern Control. It’s also important to note that any aircraft having air drop capability must be pre-approved through the Ministry of External Affairs.

Lucknow is stones throw from Delhi, where obviously IGIA, Palam domestic, and Hindon are all better choices. So, based on routine procedures, this doesnt add up. Why announce it then? Was it seen/imaged, where is the chatter? Bad sharif is in china, good sharif in arabia. Were they taking musharraf to singapore? What did they drop off? Who did a favor to whom? What aircraft was it, why is the type not public?

edit-- Rawalpindi-chittagong is well within the range of a cn235. LKO would also likely not be in the a normal flight path unless routed that way. LKO is definitely too close for needing refueling. What gives? Why are the cn235s flying this route to begin with.

An aircraft of Pakistan Air Force with five military personnel aboard was allowed for an emergency landing in Lucknow on Sunday night because the airport authorities in India turned down their request to allow its landing at the Indira Gandhi International Airport in New Delhi. This decision was apparently taken in view of the presence of US President Barack Obama in the national Capital.

If sources are believed, it is a routine matter for flights between Pakistan and Bangladesh to get refuelled in New Delhi. But this aircraft, PAAF-854, was diverted to Lucknow.

Such a situation had arisen previously on May 7 last year when a Pakistani chartered aircraft with 100 passengers aboard had landed in Lucknow under emergency conditions. Flying between Lahore and Dhaka, the flight had taken off from here after refuelling.