Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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So Pakistan claims that a terrorist attack in Quetta was masterminded from Afghanistan. That's irony for you.
What is next.
Quetta Shura members are buddhists !!??
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This is completely staged to go after the BLA or get shrug of the supreme court observations, they want to go in and do what ever they want in BLA. This staged attack will now give them a fig leaf of a reason to be more ferocious on BLA as well as protect the CPEC to which it is the biggest threat.

This is all for their domestic consumption and Pakistan deep state in play. These cadets are soft targets anyway and billions in threat, so just create a staged attack for possible outcomes.
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Strange timing (and note the irony). While blaming the masterminds in Afghanistan, why is al bakistan talking to these afghan tellibunnies?

Taliban envoys travel to Pakistan to discuss Afghanistan peace talks
Senior members of the Taliban’s political commission based in Qatar have travelled to Pakistan for discussions with security officials there about possible peace talks with the Afghan government
The official said it was an attempt by Islamabad to wrest back control and escape “immense US pressure and international isolation”
“They and a group from Quetta are talking to the Pakistanis about a Pakistan-led process,” the official said. “This is a separate initiative to escape US and Chinese pressure.”
Coincidence? Something black in the lentil soup, hain?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... eace-talks
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Another cause as part of cause & effect?

Afghan Taliban Political Envoys in Pakistan for Serious Talks
An Afghan Taliban delegation has traveled to Pakistan from Qatar for talks with officials to raise various issues, including “arrests” of some insurgent leaders, shutting down of some religious seminaries for Afghan refugees and “increasing problems” facing the displaced community in the neighboring country.
Pakistani intelligence sources have confirmed to VOA arrests of several top Taliban leaders in parts of the southwestern Baluchistan province, including its capital, Quetta. Senior members of the so-called Quetta Shura, or leadership council, Mullah Ahmadullah Nani and Mullah Sammad Sani are among the detainees.
The Pakistan government denies Afghan allegations it is covertly supporting the Taliban-led insurgency in Afghanistan.
http://www.voanews.com/a/pakistan-afgha ... 61869.html
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And to muddy the waters...

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The pakis will probably try to do a train or a market bombing in India during Diwali. Quite certain.

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Lashkar-e-Taiba claims responsibility for Uri terror attack

NEW DELHI: Pakistan based terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba has claimed responsibility for the Uri terror attack that killed 20 Indian soldiers last month in Kashmir.

Funeral prayers in absentia for one of the Uri attackers, organized by LeT's parent organization Jamaat-ud-Dawa, are to be held in Gujranwala of Punjab, Pakistan, according to posters widely circulated on social media. A special address by JuD chief Hafiz Saeed will be held after the prayers, the poster said.

The poster brags that LeT's Muhammad Anas, code named Abu-Saraqa attained "martyrdom" while carrying out the attack on the Indian Army camp in Uri, Kashmir.
Written in Urdu, the poster, however also made an outlandish claim that LeT terrorists had killed 177 Indian soldiers.

"Funeral prayers in absentia for Mujahid Bhai Abu Siraqa Muhammad Anas martyr for having killed 177 Hindu soldiers in Kashmir," the poster said. The funeral is at Sadabahar Nursery near Bada Nala Nawab Chowk Girjakh Gujranwala.

The claim assumes significance since the Pakistan government has consistently denied the role of its Kashmir-centric terror groups in the Uri attack.

Muhammad Aamir Hussaini, a staff reporter with the Frontier Post in Pakistan told the TOI, "After such posters and such events organized by JUD, what will be authenticity of claims made by Pakistani Foreign Office in front of International community." This poster shows that Hafiz Saeed is working in Punjab with the consent of the civilian government and in this case the military establishment, he added.

After the poster was widely circulated online, JuD claimed that it was a hoax, Pakistani Reuters correspondent Asad Hashim tweeted. However former editor Dawn, Abbas Nasir in a tweet response confirmed the veracity of the poster and said that the funeral prayers have now been postponed.
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Gagan wrote:The pakis will probably try to do a train or a market bombing in India during Diwali. Quite certain.

Kashi ji. The image is not appearing, it is behind a log in access.
Sorry GaganJi..the tweet says this..
"We had completed training 8 months ago; why were we called back?" Recruit who escaped unhurt. #Quetta#terrorism
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Peregrine wrote:"Funeral prayers in absentia for Mujahid Bhai Abu Siraqa Muhammad Anas martyr for having killed 177 Hindu soldiers in Kashmir," the poster said. The funeral is at Sadabahar Nursery near Bada Nala Nawab Chowk Girjakh Gujranwala.
Talk about real life imitating art.

First we had surgical strikes on the pattern elocuted briliiantly by Vivek Ahuja in Fenix..

Now we have a scene from one of the earlier scenarios (by ShankarJi/SinghaJi) with a fake news report where a mujahid was laid to rest and his obituary claimed that he achieved his 72 fighting over 100 infidel Indian and American soldiers who attacked his camp, after killing several of them..

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Rohingya terrorists linked to pro-Pak terror groups in Jammu & Kashmir - Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury, Economic Times
Little-known Rohingya terror group Aqa Mul Mujahideen blamed for the recent attacks on Myanmar border outposts by the country's president not only maintains links with Hafiz Saeed’s Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) but is learnt to have developed ties with the Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) cell in Jammu and Kashmir. {This has to be understood clearly. Today, LeT & JeM act as one group, just like Pakistan & China acting as one entity}

Aqa Mul Mujahideen (AMM) leaders were trained in Pakistan and later recruited Rohingya youth in Rakhine region of Myanmar, claimed persons familiar with the group and its activities. AMM is a new armed group that originated from the Harkat-ul-Jihad Islami-Arakan (HUJI-A).

There are reports of Rohingya terrorists fighting alongside Pakistani extremists in Kashmir. One of their top leaders, Chotta Burmi, was killed in Kashmir along with JeM commander Adil Pathan last year. Earlier Burmi allegedly shared the dais with Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan.

It is understood that security agencies of India, Bangladesh and Myanmar are coordinating their actions against Rohingya terror groups.

The current HUJI-A chief -- Abdus Qadoos Burmi, a Pakistani national of Rohingya origin
, who it is claimed recruited one Hafiz Tohar from Maungdaw in Myanmar. Tohar is now said to be heading the AMM and Qadoos Burmi is reported to be close to Saeed. Saeed’s other terror group, Jamat ud Dawa (JuDD)’s humanitarian arm, Falah-e-Insaniat (FiF), was active in Rohingya relief camps in Rakhine State after the 2012 riots.

Qadoos Burmi also developed the HUJI-A network in Bangladesh, using the remote hills along its border with Myanmar, according to government sources in Dhaka.

It may be recalled that JuD launched Difa-e-Musalman-e-Arakan conference in Pakistan to highlight the Rohingya cause in 2012. Subsequently, two senior JuD operatives, Shahid Mahmood and Nadeem Awan, allegedly established direct contacts with Rohingya extremists based in camps along the Bangladesh-Myanmar border, hinted persons familiar with the issue.

Earlier, the Bangladesh authorities arrested Maulana Shabeer Ahmed, a Pakistan-based Rohingya operative in 2012 who revealed that he was coordinating with Rohingya terrorists in Bangladesh on behalf of JeM.

Bangladesh authorities are not ruling out the fact that Rohingya armed groups may have close links with Bangladesh's home grown terrorists and could share hideouts, finances and sources of weapons supply.

Pakistan-linked Rohingya terror groups have also allegedly been noticed in Mae Sot area on the Thai side of the Thai-Myanmar border
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I have seen Rohingya Muslim women in Uttarhalli in South Bangalore some weeks ago
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Kashi wrote:
"We had completed training 8 months ago; why were we called back?" Recruit who escaped unhurt. #Quetta#terrorism
Wow! The implications are :eek:

Sunni Pakjabis doing Shia Sacrifice? Seems to be a False Flag Op.
Have to keep an eye out for the names of those killed, one can distinguish Shia from Sunni names, and maybe pakjabi names.
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‘India has capacity to produce hundreds of new nuclear bombs’
ISLAMABAD: A new study indicates that India has sufficient material and the technical capacity to produce between 356 and 492 nuclear bombs.
They said that member states of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) should consider the large and swiftly expanding Indian nuclear bomb capacity when dealing with India’s NSG membership and ensure that Indian membership of this export control arrangement does not, in any way, help India expand and accelerate its nuclear weapons program.
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https://twitter.com/Baloch_World/status ... 8567331840

49 Balochs dead in the terrorist attack. No longer feeling good.
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May be these were selectively called back and housed in a particular area to be slaughtered by 'ISIS'? I wont be surprised if the Paki Army too took part in the slaughter in the guise of rescue.
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US will support Pakistan in its fight against terrorism
WASHINGTON, 25 October. / Corr. TASS Anatoly Bochinin /. United States "in the strongest terms" condemns the attack on Pakistan police college, Washington will continue to support Islamabad in combating terrorism. This is stated in a Tuesday statement, the official representative of the National Security Council at the White House, Ned Price.

"We pray for the victims of this cowardly attack, many of whom were prepared to defend the peace and security of the citizens of Pakistan. The United States supports the people in the country and confirm our readiness to support the government of Pakistan in its efforts aimed at the eradication of terrorism and violent extremism, as well as the strengthening of peace, security and stability in the region ", - said Price.
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Guys, it seems all of the dead were Baluchis and not our nemesis, the Pakijabi b@satards. At best, this caused some embarrassment to Paki establishment, but then again, ISI will milk the living daylights out of this as "we are victims of terror", "we have made great sacrifices" crap (and they care a whit about Baluchis in any case, so this is a net profit for TSP). And of course, Pakis will then do something horrifc in India during Deepavali celebrations in India as "revenge", slimily put out that ISIS was behind it, and of course US will say both India and TSP are my munna darlings and should cooperate to fight ISIS.
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When Akbar was fighting the Sisodias in Haldighati, the Mughals could not distinguish between them and the Kachwaha vassals of Akbar. So the question was asked, how do we figure out who is who?

The answer was, both are kaffirs, shower arrows on both of them!

Just cuz Baloch are getting clobbered by Pakjabis does not mean we shed tears for them. 12000 Baloch fought on Ahmed Shah's side in Panipat and he issued a special citation thanking them for fighting on his side.

So think about it friends! When the Radcliffe line is gone 50 yrs from now and we go back to the old normal, it will be 1761 all over again.
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On Quetta incident , got this from teetar. looks like most of the cadets were baloch/Pakhtun. most pashtun jurnos are trusting this guy.

https://twitter.com/BarkhurdarAchak/sta ... 8347217920

‏@BarkhurdarAchak
Sariab(quetta police academy area) is a Baloch majority ghetto of sorts. It's by no means a suburb. And due to the Baloch nationalist unrest, is very heavily guarded..


Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
It was here that I first saw FC back in 2008. It's here that they are at their most aggressive, it's here that they fight Baloch nationalist

Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
On shoot first and ask questions later basis (Think Rangers in Nine-Zero ×3) Majority of the missing persons hail from Sariab. At any given

Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
Time 100s of FC soldiers can be seen, either manning checkposts or patrolling in 2 pick-up, 8 soldier formation. In the heyday of Baloch...

Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
Insurgency, Sariab was the favorite hunting ground of the FC. The Baloch youth wearing their traditional shalwars were used to be..

Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
Along with being otherwise harassed, we're Made 'Murghas' on top of rickshaws and told to maintain balance failing which, their Trousers...

Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
Ripped with scissors. Coming to the Academy itself, you need to pass at least 5 FC checkposts to get to the front and God knows how many..

Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
To get to it from the back, the building is part of the new police line. The cadets who died, except for the senior officers on training..


Barkhurdar Khan ‏@BarkhurdarAchak 10h10 hours ago
Are between 20 to 22 years old. The home minister refuse to call it a security lapse And since the COAS is here let's see what he has to say
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Peregrine wrote:61
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61 To 69 is only short Waqt away for Paki & Pakkiorist to enjoy Terrorasmic Tease & Treasure.
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Death of so many Balochies is a tragedy. Nobody gives a damn if some Baloch fought together with Mughals several centuries ago. Many Rajputs also fought along with Mughals. As of today, India is firmly behind Blochis struggle for self determination. This looks like a false flag operation intended to accomplish two purposes:
1. Show Pak as victim of terrorism
2. Give a green light to PA to exterminate remaining Baloch men under the name of fight against terrorism.
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schinnas wrote: 2. Give a green light to PA to exterminate remaining Baloch men under the name of fight against terrorism.
Here is a CT going around.

one of the rescued cadets told the press that their training was completed a few months ago and he was not sure why they were called back.

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Why are Baloch joining these pakjabi occupation forces? I have no problem if these sarkari baloch were killed. Let them fight alongside BLA then we will sympathize.
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Bheeshma wrote:Why are Baloch joining these pakjabi occupation forces? I have no problem if these sarkari baloch were killed. Let them fight alongside BLA then we will sympathize.
No different from Indians that worked for British police or army. People do it if that is their bread and butter.
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Saddened by the loss of Balochi lives. Condolences.
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It looks like a self strike by TSPA using their non-uniformed jihadis.
I am not sorry for the loss as these folks would graduate and go after the Baloch nationalists.

#JaiMataHinglej!!!
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LEJ is as sarkari as LET and Hizb.
This was an attack by the Pakjabis on the Baloch, youth.

They will close this college, do recruitment from Punjab only, meanwhile deploy FC backed by Pak Fauj gunships and everything, even more to carry out a security operation. As it is they have intensified killings and interrogations since Aug 15.
More Baloch blood is going to be spilled, but that also means that things are getting heated up.

In this churning that is to follow, a new nation may well be born.
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Rudradev wrote: India meanwhile was a grey mass that couldn't even get its outline depicted accurately. Besides, he "Hindu" aspects of India... poverty, caste, cows, curry, many-armed demonic idols, women set ablaze on their husbands' pyres or for dowry... were exclusively property of the Republic of India onlee. For both Pakistanis and the West to recoil against in shared disgust.
All of the ones that followed Katherine Mayo after 1927 were Her Children, and Wendy Doniger is if nothing else one of the most vicious of them.

Very few Westerners have looked beyond the stereotype, one being Jabez T. Sunderland. His essays are part of the original 1929 book 'India In Bondage'. Even that far back he was a true friend of India although nothing comes for free and he ends up being a 'misbegotten missionary' in some sense.
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http://www.rediff.com/news/report/india ... 161026.htm
India retaliates: At least 3 Pak soldiers killed, 6 posts damaged
At least 2-3 Pakistani armymen are believed to have been killed on Tuesday in the retaliatory firing by Indian troops in the Noushera sector of Rajouri district while seven women, including six members of a family, were injured in R S Pura sector of Jammu district in cross-border shelling.
Heavy exchange of fire, involving use of 82 mm and 120 mm mortar shells besides small arms, was still going on in the evening after it started at around 10 am.
"From 10 am, Pakistan Army resorted to unprovoked ceasefire violation along the Line of Control in Noushera sector of Rajouri district by targeting our positions with mortar bombs and small arms fire," an army officer said.
The Indian army is giving a "befitting response" to the ceasefire violation from the Pakistani side, he added.
"We have inputs that two to three Pakistani soldiers have been killed in the retaliatory firing by our men," an army officer said.
"The firing is still going on and our side is giving a befitting reply," he said, adding there is no loss of life or injury on our side.
The Border Security Force too has claimed that its calibrated and effective retaliatory fire had heavily damaged at least six Pakistan Rangers posts.
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As expected, India's radical hate mongering neo-left and Brown sepoys are all in rage over this.

2 days back NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/24/world ... istan.html
Greta Ananad
Now, with his tough stance, there are growing concerns that Mr. Modi may have narrowed his options, raising the risks of war with India’s nuclear-armed rival, Pakistan.

Experts are worrying about what India will do when Pakistan-based militants carry out another attack in India, as is almost certain. And how will Pakistan respond?

“We’re not at the point of no return, but we are in very dangerous waters,” said Bruce Riedel, a fellow at the Brookings Institution who served in the Central Intelligence Agency, where he advised several American presidents on South Asia.

“When we get to the next terror attack, which is probably only a matter of time, the prime minister has boxed himself in, and he can’t take the route his predecessors did and choose to use solely diplomatic alternatives without some loss of face,” Mr. Riedel said.
Mr. Modi followed the strikes with a campaign to isolate Pakistan diplomatically — he denounced the country as “a mother ship of terrorism” at a summit meeting last week — and they have unleashed a nationalist fury within India that may be hard to contain.

That frenzy, stoked by the Indian news media, “is in danger of pushing India into conflict,” said Myra MacDonald, the author of “Defeat Is an Orphan: How Pakistan Lost the Great South Asian War.”

Pakistani did not retaliate after India’s strikes last month, and instead tried to play them down. To acknowledge them would have forced Pakistan to retaliate, experts say, and Pakistan is not eager to plunge into a war.

But the Pakistani Army cannot realistically deny anything took place after each incident, said Ajai Shukla, a retired Indian Army colonel who writes about defense for the Business Standard newspaper in New Delhi.

“The Pakistani military would be forced to retaliate in the event of a more prominent strike,” in part to guard its image as the ever-vigilant protector of Pakistan, he said. And there is no predicting where such a conflict could lead, the experts say.

“The big danger here is once you get started up the escalation ladder, how do you cool it off?” Mr. Riedel said.

“I’m scared,” Mr. Shukla said. “We’re not Israel bullying Gaza, or the U.S. with Haiti. We’re the fourth-biggest army confronting the 11th-biggest army.”
So scary how all enervation Paki lovers and Indian UPA handlers, PRESSTITUTES are all coming together to help Pakis

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/glo ... ab1d56b381
Darkha Butt
In the likely event of a Hillary Clinton win, her administration will no longer be able to count on New Delhi displaying what is known as strategic restraint; Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has dramatically altered the traditional Pakistan doctrine with several high-risk firsts. None of the old rules apply.
Madam Hillary! stop this fellow before he hurts Pakistan too much...

This is now India’s new normal — an attempt to increase the cost of terrorism for Pakistan and call out what many in Modi’s party called the “nuclear bogey.” The conventional wisdom of ‘nuclear deterrence’ — that fears of escalation between two nuclear powers would hold back India from an officially owned punitive response to terrorism — has been openly challenged.

India’s message was not just for Pakistan but also for countries such as the United States that have long counted on the deterrence theory to manage regional tensions. Writers including George Perkovich and Toby Dalton (“Not War, Not Peace“) have argued that that a military counterattack by India could escalate to “destruction beyond imagination” but that has not happened — at least so far. The theater of conflict is currently confined to Jammu and Kashmir along the 124 mile-long international border and the 450-mile stretch of the line of control where a 13-year-old cease-fire is under threat. Mortar fire has returned to areas where even small-arms weapons had fallen more or less silent.
That restraint can no longer be taken for granted — that’s India’s messaging to Washington. Given Clinton’s proud mention of monitoring the operation that took out Osama bin Laden from his hideout in Pakistan (“While you were hosting ‘Celebrity Apprentice,’ Donald”), there is an expectation in India that she will bring some of her famed hawkishness to her administration’s Pakistan policy. No blank checks on military aid; stringent economic pressure to shut down terror groups; and a foreign policy grammar that doesn’t club India and Pakistan together, or worse, separate them only by a hyphen.

In September, in a closed-door Virginia fundraiser, Clinton warned of the dangers of a jihadist coup in Pakistan and the possibility of “suicide nuclear bombers.” She gets it. Which means in her early days in the Oval Office, Clinton may need to do some plain-speaking with Pakistan much sooner than she had bargained for.
Hillary - Did you get it? No more restraint. How we lowly Hindus dare raise a weapon against Paki terrorists? Do something. Stop him...

While posing as terrorism is blah blah ... what these scums are trying to do is force US administration to force India to go back to Strategic restraint or Enuch Defense.

It will help them mock Modi at home and discredit him in elections while helping Pakis to keep sending terrorists. WIN WIN they want.

Fortunately for them, Hillary will be their best best who will be a friend of every terrorist regime out there especially Pakis
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vijayk wrote:As expected, India's radical hate mongering neo-left and Brown sepoys are all in rage over this.
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“I’m scared,” Mr. Shukla said. “We’re not Israel bullying Gaza, or the U.S. with Haiti. We’re the fourth-biggest army confronting the 11th-biggest army.”
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He's scared? Is this ...I don't know where to even begin.

It would be cowardly if he were just an analyst spat out by some random think tank. But to think that this is a former Colonel of the Indian Army speaking words that should shame him by virtue of his having worn the uniform, and in fact shame me just by just by association. He's cowering for an international audience, how low does one have to go?
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^^^^
Darpok Shukla is scared that his cover as a Paki asset has been totally blown, and his utility to the Pakis (along with whatever little was left of his reputation) has gone down the latrine, which means that he will have to find a new paymaster.
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Pakistan hurt by own demons: Manohar Parrikar
NEW DELHI: Even as he expressed deep sorrow for the loss of over 60 lives in the terror attack on a police training academy in the Pakistani city of Quetta on Tuesday, defence minister Manohar Parrikar said such incidents showed why one should not create demons capable of "uncontrollable violence".
"I express grief for the loss of life. We don't believe in violence, this kind of violence. Terrorism anywhere and in any form cannot be justified," said Parrikar, speaking on the sidelines of the naval commanders' conference here.
"You need to be able to control anything a state does. Non-state actors should not be supported by any country.
That is crux of our security doctrine. We have said that non-state actors involved in terrorism should be curtailed. Sometimes, it can bounce back on you also. I think this is one such event," Parrikar said.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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schinnas wrote:Death of so many Balochies is a tragedy. Nobody gives a damn if some Baloch fought together with Mughals several centuries ago............
Anyone remember "Ramzi Yusuf"? "Ajmal Kansi" ring a bell?

My last note on this subject.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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yensoy wrote:
Kashi wrote:"False flag operation to distract from the atrocities being committed on the people of Baluchistan and Waziristan"

should be tweeted far and wide..
Do we need to stoop down to their level of endless conspiracy theories? While it is certainly possible, the way to play this is the usual "We regret the deaths and casualties of this terrorist attack. Pak should look within to see why its policies are backfiring on itself, learn from this experience, and take steps to fully eradicate all forms of terrorism. Further, Pak should ensure the security of its religious and ethnic minorities, especially the disadvantaged and deprived people of Baluchistan."
Isn't it sad that sons of Chanakya and Krishna are debating about stooping low when dealing with an abomination like pakistan? Would mahabharata been won if Lord Krishna had played by morals and ethics?

Indians seriously need to get over themselves and get down from this pathetic high horse. Its not going to help us in anyway. Have you even seen any mainstream westerner, let alone a jingo, accept how barbaric their acts are in the world even today?
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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Case solved.

Terror plan made in Delhi, PM told
http://nation.com.pk/national/26-Oct-20 ... hi-pm-told
Quetta - Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Tuesday chaired a high-legal emergent meeting at the Governor’s House to chalk out a new strategy to save the provincial metropolitan city, in particular, and the entire Balochistan, in general, from the onslaught of religious extremists, terrorist outfits and foreign-sponsored agents.

The FC IG and the ISI local commander briefed the participants about the nature of the Monday night attack on the police cadets’ hostel claiming 63 lives and injuring over 150 others. They also explained the clean-up operation carried out jointly by the FC and light commando unit of the army. The meeting was informed by ISI Commander Brig Khalid Faridthat the plan to attack Police Training College Hostel was made in New Delhi, handed to Afghan NDS-RAW network which assigned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi operating on Afghan soil to execute it. He was of the view that all recent terrorist attacks had links with Afghan NDS that is running training camps in Spin Boldak, located close to Chaman on Pak-Afghan border.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-13 June,2016

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Gunmen kill four in Balochistan
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/15982 ... alochistan#
MASTUNG: At least four people were killed and another injured in a firing incident in Mastung district of Balochistan province on Tuesday, according to police. The police said the shooting took place in main bazaar of the Mastung city. The dead and injured were moved to Civil Hospital Mastung. The police cordoned off the area and were collecting evidence at the crime scene.
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The meeting was informed by ISI Commander Brig Khalid Faridthat the plan to attack Police Training College Hostel was made in New Delhi, handed to Afghan NDS-RAW network which assigned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi operating on Afghan soil to execute it
Werent they able to get hold of a copy of the handwritten plan by Modi and co-signed by Doval and Parikkar ( bit shaky signature since it was done by cowering SDRE in his dark corner of the PMO) using their sources in PMO?
That would have been the icing on the cake
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