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ArjunPandit wrote:ramana guru,
hate to quote idrw to support..but seems like Pakis are buying time ..
http://idrw.org/is-pakistans-general-ba ... he-answer/

India, kashmir are the key issues for pakis they're not giving it up..they'll use it to recuperate and when time is fine they'll strike...they need to be dismembered

ArjunPandit wrote:

ramana wrote:I have theory.
I think the Balakot strike eliminated the top and middle rung of JeM leadership and whats left are the low level dregs and Masood Azhar.
The consequence is HuM wants to seek some accommodation with GOI and Hurrirats are already there as Governor Satyapal Malik indicated.
This has led the Pak ISI to unleash their jackals of war AQIS on the HuM and this is the cause of the recent inter terrorist fights in Kashmir.

I've been thinking about this for some time.. My theory is slightly different..I think it or tanzeeems who want to fight and Pakistan army doesnt, for now, and Pakistanis using tactics of old days by keeping them busy through infighting... If past is any indication.. They'll keep a core entity and then spin off the rest..££crunch is hitting them hard and it might be dawning on them.. That if they don't mend their ways they're dealing with Modi and will have to deal with further division

shyamd wrote:

ArjunPandit wrote: I've been thinking about this for some time.. My theory is slightly different..I think it or tanzeeems who want to fight and Pakistan army doesnt, for now, and Pakistanis using tactics of old days by keeping them busy through infighting... If past is any indication.. They'll keep a core entity and then spin off the rest..££crunch is hitting them hard and it might be dawning on them.. That if they don't mend their ways they're dealing with Modi and will have to deal with further division

All these events are nothing new for J&K. Hurriyats play both sides - how many ex-GOI official testimonies have confirmed this?

The only new phenomenon is Zakir Musa gang or what is now called Ansar something or the other - who was vocally berating TSPA/ISI, he said "ISI and Pak Army is only interested in land, not jihad". This triggered defections among the regular TSPA/ISI backed rank & file (LeT, HuM etc). Just in last few days, you had one chap who told HuM he wants to defect - HuM said give back your gun, he then was shot dead by HuM when he came to return the weapon.

Further, I suspect ZM gang was tipping off locations of HuM/LeT individuals. HuM/LeT vacuum will get filled by ZM gang, so were the clear benefactors. This led to counter tipping off against ZM gang. Does anyone seriously think some member of the TSP public is going to ring up Indian Embassy in ISB to give specific tip off about ZM activity?

All this just shows that TSP is still trying to keep grip of matters in J&K. As we saw, TSPA has been escalating by passing on armoured piercing bullets into the valley. TSP attention is focused on US-Iran crisis, plus all this FATF/economic issues - expect this year to be a quiet one (but doesn't mean the pot is not being stirred).

As for the 5+ TSPA soldiers who died. GOI is not fooled by what's going on in J&K as well as across the LoC. We are all hearing regular news of covert action that has been initiated post Balakot.

In a strategic move, the Pakistani troops are targeting civilian population along the Line of Control (LoC) and International Border (IB) to stop developmental activities.
A couple of days back, Pakistani troops targeted civilians engaged in road construction in the Mendhar sector of Poonch district by firing a few rounds but fortunately, no one was hurt.

“Road construction has been stopped in the village after Pakistani troops targeted civilians and JCB machines engaged in work. We were constructing a 7-km-long road between Phawadi Gali to Deri village in the Mendhar sector but after the firing, we stopped the work,” a resident said.

Cop arrested for filming women taking bath at Amarnath Yatra camp
A police constable Tariq Ahmed was arrested for allegedly recording the video of a women taking bath.

Tariq Ahmed was serving in the 19th battalion of the Indian Reserve Police and a case under Section 354 (intent to outrage the modesty of women) of the Ranbir Penal Code was registered against him at Trikuta Nagar Police station.
Tariq Ahmed was released on bail shortly afterwards.
According to police, Tariq Ahmed used his mobile phone to secretly film the women inside the bathroom of a railway station camp on Wednesday night.
The women raised an alarm and people caught him

shyamd wrote: All these events are nothing new for J&K. Hurriyats play both sides - how many ex-GOI official testimonies have confirmed this?

The only new phenomenon is Zakir Musa gang or what is now called Ansar something or the other - who was vocally berating TSPA/ISI, he said "ISI and Pak Army is only interested in land, not jihad". This triggered defections among the regular TSPA/ISI backed rank & file (LeT, HuM etc). Just in last few days, you had one chap who told HuM he wants to defect - HuM said give back your gun, he then was shot dead by HuM when he came to return the weapon.

Further, I suspect ZM gang was tipping off locations of HuM/LeT individuals. HuM/LeT vacuum will get filled by ZM gang, so were the clear benefactors. This led to counter tipping off against ZM gang. Does anyone seriously think some member of the TSP public is going to ring up Indian Embassy in ISB to give specific tip off about ZM activity?

All this just shows that TSP is still trying to keep grip of matters in J&K. As we saw, TSPA has been escalating by passing on armoured piercing bullets into the valley. TSP attention is focused on US-Iran crisis, plus all this FATF/economic issues - expect this year to be a quiet one (but doesn't mean the pot is not being stirred).

As for the 5+ TSPA soldiers who died. GOI is not fooled by what's going on in J&K as well as across the LoC. We are all hearing regular news of covert action that has been initiated post Balakot.

shyamd wrote: Also, someone in the know asks - Is ISI behind the Hurriyat agreeing to talks?

These are the questions GOI security officials will be grappling with.

shyamd wrote:Interestingly, the PDP and JKNC say GOI has no choice but to engage with Hurriyat and TSP because the source of terror/trouble making is emanating and controlled across the border. The big parties are saying there is no solution unless you deal with them. They say ABV understood this and engaged.

CRamS wrote: BJP on the other hand has the right intentions but does not have the military or the economic muscle to bring TSP to its knees. But make no mistake, the nerve center of this entire charade is GHQ Rawilpindi. So bottom line, no amount of tough talking by well meaning patriotic nationalists like ModiJi, Amit Shah, and Doval can alter this reality until TSP is defeated comprehensively. The so called Kashmir problem is here to stay for a long time.

A British military officer helped one Abdul Qadir, a religious fanatic from Peshawar to enter Kashmir in the guise of his cook. He was an excellent speaker at a meeting at Khanqa-i-Mualla, he was invited to speak and he made a speech there of highly seditious and communal nature, quoting frequently from Quran in support of his inflammatory statements. He was naturally arrested and charged before the court. The crowds not only resisted the arrest and shouted objectionable slogans, but also threatened to obstruct the work of the court, which was then held within the premises of the Central Jail.
On the 13th of July 1931, the day fixed by the court for hearing of the case, communal disturbances of the worst type took place in Srinagar city and it suburbs resulting in the looting and burning of Hindu shops and houses on a large scale and the death of about 13 persons on account of police and military firing.
In their memory, the Governments that succeeded the Maharaja after Independence, and which claimed themselves to be secular and nationalist, are observing the black day of 13th of July as a National “Martyrs Day” every year thus perpetuating pin-pricking to the other community which suffered untold atrocities at the hands of the Muslims during this completely communal movement, and keeping the communal tension alive.
Here is how Mr. G.S.Raghavan formerly Editor of the “Hindustan Times” the “Nation”, the “Sunday Times”, and other papers, described these happenings in Srinagar in his book “THE WARNING OF KASHMIR” published in 1931.
He says:
“The hearing in Jail fell on 13th July. On that day, a mob stormed the Jail and demanded admittance along with the Sessions Judge. When the Judge had passed the gates, the crowd also attempted to get in. The other gates had been forced and the inner gates were attacked, AT the suggestion of the Judge, two muslim lawyers representing the accused, harangued the visitors to go out of the Jail precincts. Finding that there was no possibility of ingress, the crowd went out and started stoning officials and set fire to the police lines. The police force was then called in. All efforts to pacify the unruly mob proved futile. While there was commotion outside the Jail there was also disturbance inside, prisoners tried to force the iron gates. About this time, certain prisoners were being taken from the court to the Jail. The crowd stoned the policemen and the prisoners were liberated. The prospect was by no means satisfactory. The District Magistrate’s order was defied, who had been summoned to the spot by the time, declared the crowd to be an “unlawful assembly” and ordered its dispersal. The order was defied and finding that the mob could neither be pacified nor dispersed, the District Magistrate directed fire to be opened. The crowd fell off but later it re-assembled and resumed stoning. It had to be dispersed with a Lathi charge. Part of the crowd, however moved towards the Hari Parbat Fort: the cavalry had to pursue it and disperse it again. A section of the recalcitrant’s proceeded towards a place called Maharaj Ganj which is a business locality and loot over an extensive area followed. From Bhori Kadal to Alikahl a long stretch, the Hindu shops were raided. Other localities such as Satakadal, Ganji, Khud and Nawakadal too formed the centers of loot. Bazar streets were littered with property, books of accounts were burnt: the Hindu shopkeepers were molested, in short, pandemonium prevailed.”
“The Hindu merchants lost lakhs worth of goods. Mr. Wakefield has affirmed that the articles were so strewn about the roads that his car would not pass, it is also his testimony that not a single Moham-medan complained to him about his premises having been invaded by the looters”.
“The most extraordinary portion of the story was that almost simultaneously with the happenings at Srinagar, there was an uprising at a place named Vicharnag, some 5 or 6 miles away. It has been stated that untold atrocities were committed there; men owning lakhs were reduced to indigence and women were subjected to the worst possible and the most in decent assaults. A military force was despatched to the place, but by that time the havoc had been completed. Elsewhere, the Hindus were the victims of ambuscade. Some lost their lives and many suffered physical injuries. Stray assaults continued till long after”.
Such is the origin of the “Martyr’s Day” in Kashmir which is now being officially observed as a National Day by the “Secular” Government of the State.
Sheikh Mohammad Abdullah was among the guilty persons. He was arrested, convicted and sentenced, but was released before completing his sentence as a result of amnesty granted by the Maharaja in 1932. He then established the All Jammu and Kashmir Muslim Conference and became its first President.
The story of this “Black Day” will be incomplete without narrating the happenings in the Jammu province. This communal frenzy then spread to the far flung areas of Mirpur, Kotli, Rajouri and other parts of this area giving it a new name and created havoc. Hindu/Sikhs properties, homes were looted and burnt. Innocent people were mercilessly killed and many were converted to Islam forcibly. Religious places of worship of Hindus and Sikhs i.e. temples, Gurudwara’s all met with same fate. Many were completely damaged and desecrated, in other few cases, though buildings were not damaged yet sacred God idols, religious books including Guru Granth Sahib badly damaged burnt and desecrated.
These happenings known as “88 NA SHAURASH” (Riots of 1988 Bikram or 1931 Christian Era) are still in the memory of not only survivals of that time but also of their subsequent generations, now Refugees of 1947 scattered throughout India & awaiting Rehabilitation.
Correspondence exchanged between different official agencies/Officers of the State Government and Indian (British) Government is preserved in the British Library in London. Only a few relevant reports out of the voluminous papers are being quoted here which are a proof in itself about the sufferings and atrocities suffered by the Hindu/Sikh community at the hands of Muslims.

Going back to 1930, things started changing in the valley for gathering public opinion and support to overthrow the rule of the Maharaja and replace it with local rule, purely on religious grounds. Since political parties were not allowed in the state , the aspiring ones started a Reading Room which later was known as Reading Room Party. All India Kashmir Muslim Conference had been formed in Lahore. Leaders with Communalist ideologies in Punjab had worked for many years to replace the Dogra rule in the state. The leaders of Reading Room “Party” wrote articles for two Dailies known as “Siyyasat” and “Muslim Outlook” published from Lahore. These papers were imported into the state and circulated widely, the impact of which was phenomenal. Another Urdu Daily “Inqalab” appeared with similar articles. It was followed by printing of fiery pamphlets printed in Lahore and then stealthily imported into Kashmir for distribution.
Reading Room Party went ahead with its “agenda” and enlisted the active support of two Mirwaizes or head priests of Kashmir, the Mirwaiz of Jama Masjid and the Mirwaiz of Khanqah-i- Mualla who, otherwise, were rivals with different approaches to achieve the same goal. Reading Room Party (RRP) continued its activities from Jama Masjid. They wanted to give a new shape to their activities and arrange a mammoth gathering which fructified soon when nearly 30000 or more people assembled ostensibly to celebrate a religious festival where young leaders of RRP appeared as heroes, and a political meeting ensued. On June 21, 1931 the RRP formally elected their representatives and this meeting proved to be a turning event in anti Maharaja Movement. Formally, leaders were elected namely Sheikh Mohammad Abdullah, Mirwaiz Yusuf Shah, Mirwaiz Hamdani, Khwaja Said-ud-Din Shawl, Aga Syed Hussain Shah, Khwaja Gulam Ahmed Ashai, and others. The meeting, however, was peaceful and orderly. When people started dispersing and leaving peacefully, an unknown person named Abdul Kadeer (not Qadir)emerged from nowhere on the scene and took over the stage to deliver a venomous lecture. Kadeer had come to Srinagar all the way from North West Frontier Province with a European cook but with an obnoxious mission.
Abdul Kadeer delivered a highly frenzied, hateful and inflammatory speech targeting the Maharaja and the minority Hindu community. So much was it objectionable that the state government arrested and prosecuted him in the court from July 6 to 9 in the year 1931. His trial attracted huge crowds outside the court complex which disrupted traffic and resulted in frequent clashes with the Police. To ensure peace, law and order in the city, the state government ordered the trial of Kadeer to be continued in the Central Jail , Srinagar. Crowds, in large number, reached there on July 13, 1931, the first day of the trial in Jail premises. The crowd had ballooned into a huge mob which forced its entry into the jail and when Police resisted, stones were rained on them. Telephone wires were cut, police barricades were ransacked and set on fire. Warnings and warning shots did not deter the mob from trying to ransack the jail to set free other hard core criminals and the accused Kadeer, the new “hero”. Compelled under the circumstances, the Police used force by firing on the unruly crowd which resulted in the death of some people and injuries to many others.
The mob, infuriated with the Police action, carried the dead bodies on cots and marched through the city raising provocative slogans, more so, against the Dogra rulers. When the mob reached Maharaj Ganj, a busy trading centre, they targeted Kashmiri Hindu shops and houses and looted them to their full contents despite the fact that the innocent victims had got nothing to do with anything in the entire matter. At several places in the city, mobs looted hundreds of Kashmiri Pandit houses and killed five, besides wounding nearly 200. Since those days insuring the merchandise or the household properties was not in vogue, not even in the least, this loot broke the financial backbone of the targeted Hindus, several of whom were rendered penuries. Those days ex- gratia or compensation from the government were unheard of. Vichar Nag in down town Srinagar was predominantly a Kashmiri Pandit locality which was completely looted and vandalized forcing migration of the sufferers to “safer” places. Community centers were run in temples and other Hindu shrines mopping resources from within the community to provide relief and succour to the sufferers of frenzied mob violence.
July 13, in short, was a revolt against the then Dogra Ruler and fear waves were sent across the already frightened and suffering ethnic minority members of Kashmiri Pandits because of the synonymy of the religious factor .Shops were closed as a protest, Hindu shops closed too for fear of further reprisals. Sangam Bridge over River Veth (Jehlum) was burned. All Jammu and Kashmir Muslim Conference was founded by Sheikh Mohammad Abdullah, the first session of which was held from Oct15 to 17, 1932. However, Sheikh Abdullah had subsequently to choose between communalist and secular outlooks; he had to choose ‘secular’ ideology and rechristened the Muslim Conference as National Conference in 1939. In May 1946, National Conference led by Sheikh Mohammad Abdullah launched a “Quit Kashmir” agitation along the lines of “Quit India” movement across the country.

CRamS wrote:RamanaGaru,

watched the Fair did suck up interviews by people like Burka and others on the launch of her LeT book. Couple of observations (although not directly related to this thread):

1. Her views on TSP, TSPA, ISI, pigLeTs are well known to us. Especially that LeT is a para military wing of TSPA. But our views will be dismissed by the same Burka frauds as "Hindu extremist". But in any case, Fair didi is spot on, on this count.

2. Fair Didi pretty much declares Balakot as a dud, India's claims of shooting down TSP's F-16 a lie, and Taliban Khan and TSP came out winner.

3. TSP is laughing its ass off contrary to India's claims that Balakot is a game changer. And Paki actions are only constrained by US support to its financial bailout and nothing else

4. India cannot be a world power unless its military is reformed.

All in all, while TSP wouldn't be enamored by Fair Didi's portrayal of their country, but they are winking at her conclusions.

pankajs wrote:

CRamS wrote:RamanaGaru,

watched the Fair did suck up interviews by people like Burka and others on the launch of her LeT book. Couple of observations (although not directly related to this thread):

1. Her views on TSP, TSPA, ISI, pigLeTs are well known to us. Especially that LeT is a para military wing of TSPA. But our views will be dismissed by the same Burka frauds as "Hindu extremist". But in any case, Fair didi is spot on, on this count.

2. Fair Didi pretty much declares Balakot as a dud, India's claims of shooting down TSP's F-16 a lie, and Taliban Khan and TSP came out winner.

3. TSP is laughing its ass off contrary to India's claims that Balakot is a game changer. And Paki actions are only constrained by US support to its financial bailout and nothing else

4. India cannot be a world power unless its military is reformed.

All in all, while TSP wouldn't be enamored by Fair Didi's portrayal of their country, but they are winking at her conclusions.

They winking while their country is sinking ... oh yea. bring it on!

While winking is temporary i.e gives temporary pleasure and that too fake, their sinking is permanent. Ideally I would love to control both the narrative and the ground realities but if forced to choose I will take their actual/factual sinking over their temporary & faked winking any day. Let them have the pleasure of savoring Unfair didi's comments.

pankajs wrote:

CRamS wrote:RamanaGaru,

watched the Fair did suck up interviews by people like Burka and others on the launch of her LeT book. Couple of observations (although not directly related to this thread):

1. Her views on TSP, TSPA, ISI, pigLeTs are well known to us. Especially that LeT is a para military wing of TSPA. But our views will be dismissed by the same Burka frauds as "Hindu extremist". But in any case, Fair didi is spot on, on this count.

2. Fair Didi pretty much declares Balakot as a dud, India's claims of shooting down TSP's F-16 a lie, and Taliban Khan and TSP came out winner.

3. TSP is laughing its ass off contrary to India's claims that Balakot is a game changer. And Paki actions are only constrained by US support to its financial bailout and nothing else

4. India cannot be a world power unless its military is reformed.

All in all, while TSP wouldn't be enamored by Fair Didi's portrayal of their country, but they are winking at her conclusions.

They winking while their country is sinking ... oh yea. bring it on!

While winking is temporary i.e gives temporary pleasure and that too fake, their sinking is permanent. Ideally I would love to control both the narrative and the ground realities but if forced to choose I will take their actual/factual sinking over their temporary & faked winking any day. Let them have the pleasure of savoring Unfair didi's comments.

The Jammu and Kashmir Reservation (Amendment) Bill, 2019, was introduced in Lok Sabha by the Minister of Home Affairs, Mr. Amit Shah on June 24, 2019. The Bill amends the Jammu and Kashmir Reservation Act, 2004 and replaces an Ordinance promulgated on March 1, 2019. The Act provides for reservation in appointment and promotions in state government posts, and admission to professional institutions for certain reserved categories. Professional institutions include government medical colleges, dental colleges, and polytechnics.

Extension of reservation: The Act provides for reservation in appointment and promotions in certain state government posts to persons belonging to socially and educationally backward classes. It defines socially and educationally backward classes to include persons living in areas adjoining the Actual Line of Control. The Bill amends this to include those persons living in areas adjoining the International Border, within the ambit of this reservation.

Further, the Act states that any person who has been appointed on the basis of residence in an area adjoining the Line of Control, must serve in such areas for at least seven years. The Bill extends this condition to persons living in areas adjoining the International Border as well.

Exclusion from reservation: The Act states that any person whose annual income exceeds three lakh rupees or other amount as notified by the state government, would not be included within socially and educationally backward classes. However, this exclusion does not apply to persons living in areas adjoining the Actual Line of Control. The Bill states that in addition, this exclusion will not apply to persons living in areas adjoining the International Border also

sanjayc wrote:Halfway home in Kashmir: How Amit Shah has tamed some of the fiercest anti-India voices in the Valley
The Home Minister's Chanakya-neeti on Kashmir seems to be working. At least half the voices in Kashmir, which earlier stoked big trouble, seem to be quietly toeing the line.

https://www.dailyo.in/lite/politics/ami ... 31477.html

ArjunPandit wrote:Ramana guru, this most be welcomed, but I'm sure you know better that these snakes need to be defanged Rather than tamed. That's happening thru, the j&k bank takeover and Nia raids, ... Perhaps Getting electronic payment mandatory would help