Indo-Israel: News and Discussion

[gakakkad]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timeso ... -ties/amp/

India -israel sign an fta . Surprising little coverage outside of Israeli media . Even Indian ddm not talking much about it .

[ricky_v]

couple of actions in the recent past seem more disquieting than usual portents; i believe that the globalists jews are looking for a new nation either to subvert, or make it into their likeness for the future now that europe is long in the process of being hollowed out
that may explain why usual bait / newsportals have shown a distinctive indian slant quite recently, coupled with the below article

though our mango public cheers the israelis due to them spitting in the mohemeddan eye, and though we pay our tithe in terms of defence infrastructure understanding that their relationship with the leader of the free world may either be master-slave / parasite-host, it is more imperative than the others that this relationship be transactional

the entire article is full of red flags

https://www.realclearworld.com/articles ... 60451.html

Taken together, these pressures compel Israel to reconsider how its alliances are structured – and to move from relationships of dependence toward relationships of interdependence.

With India confronting the Chinese specter and Israel seeking alliance diversification, a moment of convergence has emerged. Israel – possessing a unique and potent set of competitive advantages – can act as an “early investor” in India’s ascent, cultivating a degree of indispensability to a future superpower that is has not hitherto known.

As a small state, Israel is inherently constrained in the level of interdependence it can generate. But by acting deliberately it can embed itself within India’s decision-making architecture, so that at the moment of India’s superpower arrival it will have become an essential partner in a more durable alliance and secured greater autonomy. Crucially, this approach does not seek to erode India’s strategic autonomy. On the contrary, by strengthening India’s internal capacity and strategic coherence, it would enhance India’s autonomy as a fully realized great power.

Systemic indispensability rests on a simple asymmetry: the smaller state must possess non-scalable, high-leverage capabilities that the larger power cannot easily replicate. India’s advantages lie overwhelmingly in scale – its labor force, resources, digital platforms, and strategic geography. Its constraints are concentrated in execution: infrastructure delivery, innovation absorption, manufacturing quality, and complex systems integration.

Israel’s leverage lies precisely in these domains. Its strengths include precision technologies, short R&D cycles, advanced systems integration, and intelligence fusion. To date, these capabilities have underpinned cooperation in defense-grade AI, autonomous systems, cyber offense and defense, missile defense, desert agriculture, and water security. While technology transfer and co-production have brought the two countries close, a drive to systemic indispensability requires Israel to think in decades rather than transaction cycles. Because when India reaches superpower status, it will dwarf Israel in every quantitative metric, internalize capabilities, and learn fast. And since doctrine is far harder to replicate than hardware, Israel’s future focus should shift from arms sales toward policy co-formation.

The objective is not Indian policy capture, but the establishment of consultative norms, co-authored frameworks, and coordinated planning processes that shape how decisions are made at critical junctures like crises, escalations, and force-structure design. Core focus areas that are already primed for this type of cognitive embedding are Indian defense planning and doctrine; Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) fusion; missile defense doctrine; and border conflict management.


Indian resistance to deeper doctrinal imprinting from a small foreign power is foreseeable. Yet the magnitude of the China challenge and Israel’s unique alignment with India suggest a trade-off worth managing. Such concerns can also be addressed by ensuring that cognitive embedding is modular, domain-specific, and clearly bounded.

can anybody translate what the absolute fuk is the above supposed to mean??
also best that we be on okish terms with china if the flip side is dealing with duplicitous cuts thus scuttling the supposition of challenges and alignments in the first place

Effectuating this level of integration requires sustained elite-to-elite engagement: Israeli participation within Indian policy and defense institutions, jointly authored classified doctrine, and permanent joint working groups. In technology and systems production, Israel should pursue institutional lock-in by making its contributions structurally difficult to replace. While India may diversify hardware suppliers, replacing Israeli software logic, iteration speed, and systems architecture would be far more difficult. This logic applies across air and missile defense, ISR systems, and AI-enabled platforms, where Israeli firms can plug directly into Indian procurement and doctrine cycles.

Beyond defense, Israel can play a catalytic role in transforming India’s industrial competitiveness. By providing manufacturing intelligence layers – advanced automation, rapid prototyping, and yield optimization – Israel can help build factory “nervous systems” that vastly improve efficiency, productivity, and export reliability. Similar systems-integration expertise can be applied to other areas critical to India’s ascension to superpower status, like power-grid resilience, food security, and water management. While India builds and operates the infrastructure, Israeli firms would provide the architectural logic that is far harder to substitute than physical components.

For Israel’s indispensability to endure, its advantage must remain cognitively dynamic and continuously adaptive. That means Israel must continue to transfer knowledge faster than India can replicate it while preserving an innovation edge through constant iteration. This is a demanding standard, but one Israel has sustained since its establishment – first through its “qualitative military edge” and more recently through a burgeoning qualitative technological edge.

An Israel–India partnership aimed at counterbalancing China is both feasible and strategically consequential. But with China already entrenched as one of the two global economic centers, India must catch up quick. An alliance grounded in interdependence would strengthen both states – accelerating India’s rise while granting Israel scale, strategic depth, and durable alliance security. Properly constructed, such interdependence would not dilute autonomy for either state, but anchor it.

the israelis have the entire world as their playground courtesy the services of the 56%mutts, let not our blind hero worship of them lead to an eic2.0

[sanjaykumar]

Indeed better to be lord of your shanty than co-master of the mansion.

[chetak]

Indeed better to be lord of your shanty than co-master of the mansion.

sanjaykumar ji,

The britshits, the amrikis, the popery, jihadis (partially so far) and the commies via the russkis et al have already done this in one form or the other, over the years and by aligning with various heads of our state. The NE, TN and for some years now, the Indian punjab have all been their stomping grounds

Was the NAC a democratic or even an elected body or were they hoping that no one would notice when the Indian body politic was being actively subverted. The rusted "steel" frame was co opted right from 1947 onwards and it has now rotted beyond belief, as have the aged commies and their archaic ideology that was dumped in the dustbin of history. A few defanged and toothless specimens are still infesting the scenery but they are basically done for

Their paltu kuttas, the naxals have been sent packing and the urban varieties of these mongrels are looking for municipal shelters to hide in

This appears to be a blatant attempt to sow discord between India and israel, and this looks like the deep state in play, trying to make hay while there is a major disturbance in the world order due to a violent attack of piles that has upset the mental equilibrium of the amriki leadership.

We should wait and watch..............

JFK was the first prominent agenda of the deep state. Since then there have been two in India, not to mention many others in different geographies around the world

[sanjaykumar]

The Chinese had no problem sharing a bedroom first with the USSR and then with the chief running dog of imperialism, or whatever their term of endearment was.

Is the Chinese brain nimbler than the Indian, that they flourished?
Whilst while someone else was doing the old gareeb khana sajana? While being self-congratulatory.

[A_Gupta]

Unlike the US which has the second largest resident Jewish population plus allows dual citizenship of US and Israel, India neither allows dual citizenship nor has any significant Jewish population.

In the absence of a native Jewish constituency relations with Israel for India is purely foreign affairs. Plus the Islamic aversion to Jews (to put it politely) and India’s demographics ensures that close relations will not be openly advertised.

So all that jargon is of least concern from my point of view.

[chetak]

The Chinese had no problem sharing a bedroom first with the USSR and then with the chief running dog of imperialism, or whatever their term of endearment was.

Is the Chinese brain nimbler than the Indian, that they flourished?

Whilst while someone else was doing the old gareeb khana sajana? While being self-congratulatory.

sanjaykumar ji,


India has been secretly meeting with the israelis since the 1960 or thereabouts and taking their help. A boss of mine was at several of these meetings over a longish period of time. It was quite mean of India of those days not to acknowledge these contacts

These meetings shifted between various countries so that they remained sub rosa

It was the right wing govts that brought it out into the open.

Now a days, Indian govts don't care too much about who gets pissed off or why

we are a relatively open country and so, unlike the cheen, we could not afford to agitate the so called minorities which were being regularly instigated by saudi or eyeraan, depending on which group was activated. These two @h0le countries literally ran our foreign policy to a largish extent by organizing street vetoes in the north (UP, bihar, cashmere, dilli etc) to pressurise the GoI and obtain a policy to benefit themselves

Today, both those countries know their aukat and step gingerly around India

That's basically how the jihadi money first started to flow into India, to buy and sustain the ability to organize street vetoes to have a say in whose oil was to be bought and for how much cost. Today the reasons a more demographic in nature

the cheen "flourished" by lying, cheating, threats and blackmail. This was not India's preferred route and so we have taken a much longer time and paid a higher cost. The cheen are still at it but India has been the one who pushed back at the use of such tactics against us.

It would be best not to talk of "nimble" brains or how the cheen "flourished". The rotten fruits of their labor are there for all the world to see

And the russkis were comfortably ensconced in the iron lady's drawing room, along with the cohort of russki paid commie political cuckolds and presstitutes, ............. how easily we forgot that one small fact.

do take a gander at the contents of the mitrokhin archives when you have the time

[sanjaykumar]

Certainly the india of yore was constrained by Arab opinion. They were selling oil to India as a favour to the miskeen. The home domiciled arabs were very vocal about Jews and their evils, forgetting their own role in various two nation theories.

India has always tried to finesse relationships with blocks. Only now they can a Mach 10 missile up where the desert sun don’t shine. And they have 5 trillion dollars backing up their displeasure.


Realpolitik means nothing is for ever.

[sanjaykumar]

For context, recall India paid a 10% premium for the privilege of buying that oil.

[chetak]

sanjaykumar ji,


few realize that @mir khan, who was seen in turkey with erdogan's family, is the great-grandnephew of the saudi madrassa "educated" India's first " Education Minister", maulana abul kalam azad.

AK is the most poisonous of the bollywood khans, followed closely by $h!trukh and all three khans have always been politically protected by the congi ecosystem

That viral photo of @K with erdogan's wife was a pointed message to the aman ki tamasha ecosystem

this maulana character becoming India's first " Education Minister" was no happenstance, especially when the britshit forced partition took place on religious lines

The seven or so "sickular" successors to the jihadi maulana, all of whom who jumped into the seat of the "education minister" of India with alacrity was whose agenda and why was it done. That was the weaponization of the jihadi agenda, aided and abetted by the BIF and implemented by their chosen "manchurian candidates", to lay the foundation of a second and vastly more virulent partition of India

The interference started even before that because a lot of "negotiations" and moolah transfers would have eased the way for such shameful political shenanigans, in complete disregard to India's so called independence.

the britshits slyly, brilliantly and malevolently bargained their way out of India without changing a single leaf of the divisive plants that they had painstakingly planted and nurtured within the body politic in the two centuries that they had occupied the land and minds of a subverted populace of India by using the vehicle of "manchurian candidates" aka britshit approved pawns that were thrown up by the jihadis from time to time to counter, temper and dilute the nationalistic fervour of the majority



we are still in the mindset of the 1940s when the britshits dug in and rooted themselves (BIF) in the very soil of India.

they set the stage well before they left.....

if it wasn't for 2014, ......................

don't miss the forest for the trees and go off looking for jewish conspiracies against India.

There is a globally coordinated and very specifically concerted move against the jews in general and israel in particular.

India too figures as a large target in this white and jihadi driven agenda of domination and geopolitical bondage.

This is neo-colonialism, but artfully camouflaged as "the rules based world order" where those who write the rules are also the judge, jury and at times the executioner of those errant stragglers slow to bow to the diktats of this new narrative

And the objective remains the same as the britshit set economic shackles of two centuries of extractive occupation and the serfdom of demographic change that would be dictated by them

That narrative is now being run in India hoping that Indians are gullible enough to swallow that agenda driven codswallop that is being served up as an alternate main course to go after Modi ji.

They haven't factored in the scenario of the murky and personality driven greed for power and pelf of India's grasping political families and other elites, not to mention the competing interests of the BIF itself

India, politically (and caste wise) is such a diversely complicated stormful entity that it is like playing 3D chess underwater in a fast flowing river that is very close to a niagara waterfall type of humongously turbulent white water rapids.

Moreover, if such an agenda became apparent, many of the politically dominant, BIF driven vote banks would weaponize themselves and attempt to correct the perceived "injustices" of 1947.

BTW, even the "nimble cheeni brain" didn't see what the britshits saw well before 1947, the inexorable rise of a resurgent India and today the world sees it.

Some like israel rejoice, but most of the jihadis and the goras (not to forget the cheen) weep