Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2010

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 21 Dec 2010 10:56

^^ Remember the days in 89-92 period when they would have all these serials on Kashmir, in the end where the terrorist hero would get the KP Girl.
I used to get worked up initially but later started to laugh over it. Of course the fact that Zee TV started during the same time frame put an end to all that was Paki.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 21 Dec 2010 11:44

shynee wrote:U.S. Military Seeks to Expand Raids in Pakistan

They probably expected it. That is why they have conducted a missile test.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 21 Dec 2010 11:45

This is a much better video of that gyrocopter. Can anyone identify the kit it is from. There's got to be a name some where on it.

That pilot even has a gyrocopter insignia on his arm. There is some gems in the dialogue someone can pick out better than I can.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 21 Dec 2010 11:47

Yo Theo Bro,

Bliss to uj ur common sence. The Kit maker's name will be covered up with green paint.

JMT

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 21 Dec 2010 12:15

Theo_Fidel wrote:

This is a much better video of that gyrocopter. Can anyone identify the kit it is from. There's got to be a name some where on it.

That pilot even has a gyrocopter insignia on his arm. There is some gems in the dialogue someone can pick out better than I can.

Holy crap, I just fell off the chair while watching this. I guess this gyrocopter thing escaped my attention,so cannot thank you enough for posting this Theo, this had made my day and I can look forward to a day of hearty laughs with a friend who's father had built something similar a decade back when we were kids.

The efusive praise the makers were showering on this thing is hilarious and I'm now convinced that if anybody can be excited about this kind of stuff then a real Space programe, automobile industry, mil-Ind complex are light years away from TSP.

Jaeger · Post by **Jaeger** » 21 Dec 2010 12:21

^^Shakir Solanki. Did anyone catch that?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Dec 2010 13:53

There is no electrified railway section in TSP because there are no electric locos

The National Assembly on Monday was informed that the Lahore to Khanewal electric locomotive had been shut down since 2008 due to the non-availability of electric locomotives.

Federal Minister for Railways Ghulam Ahmad Bilour, during the question hour session, said in 1970, the government initiated an electric train system from the Lahore to Khanewal section comprising 286 kilometres. Later on, Lahore to Mughalpura to Cantt section of 7.40 km was also added to the system. At present, there were no electrified systems because all electric locomotive were non-functional and the financial constraints did not allowed {sic} the ministry to operate them.

The minister said that around 1,000 locomotives had stopped functioning. In the last 10 years, he said the government had purchased 69 locomotives from China but due to lack of proper maintenance, majority of them were also not functional and had shut down.

Commenting on purchasing new trains, Bilour said the present government was in negotiations to purchase 75 locomotives from China and 150 from the US, which would help the organisation restore its old destination within the country.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 21 Dec 2010 14:21

Hand over ‘terrorists’, Ahmadinejad tells Zardari

http://www.dawn.com/2010/12/21/hand-ove ... rdari.html

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 21 Dec 2010 14:25

Zardari,

What terrorist, we are viktems of terror onlee...........

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 21 Dec 2010 14:35

Theo_Fidel wrote:
This is a much better video of that gyrocopter. Can anyone identify the kit it is from. There's got to be a name some where on it.

That pilot even has a gyrocopter insignia on his arm. There is some gems in the dialogue someone can pick out better than I can.

I am reasonable sure it is this one from the site http://www.aircommand.com/

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 21 Dec 2010 14:39

SSridhar wrote:There is no electrified railway section in TSP because there are no electric locos
The National Assembly on Monday was informed that the Lahore to Khanewal electric locomotive had been shut down since 2008 due to the non-availability of electric locomotives. {Much better way to protect H&D than to say, 'sorry we dont have electricity for our weddings,how can we give it to railways hain ji??' }

government had purchased 69 locomotives from China but, majority of them were also not functional and had shut down. {pretty obvious }

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 21 Dec 2010 14:44

^^^

Damm you kuffur.

Don't you know that Djinn can run electic locos in place of electricity. But what to do they cannot repair them.

anandsgh · Post by **anandsgh** » 21 Dec 2010 14:48

Ouch!!!
http://www.dawn.com/2010/12/21/pakistan ... again.html

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 21 Dec 2010 15:56

‘No foreign troops can operate on our soil’

“Pakistani forces are capable of handling the militant threat within our borders and no foreign forces are allowed or required to operate inside our sovereign territory,” Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani said.

Haggu says emphatically that no foreign armed forces are allowed to operate within paki sovereign territory. What may be his take on the presence of Chinese army in POK??

The logical fallout of his above assertion is that :

1) Pakis do not consider chinese as 'foreigners'.
OR
2) Pakis do not consider POK as their 'sovereign territory'.

Well, H&D seem to supersede common human logic here.

arunsrinivasan · Post by **arunsrinivasan** » 21 Dec 2010 16:07

Iranian Prez asks Pak to 'arrest', 'deliver' terrorists

During a telephonic call to his Pakistani counterpart Asif Ali Zardari last night, Ahmadinejad said uprooting terrorism is the demand of "both Iranian and Pakistani nations," according to a statement posted on the Iranian President's official website.

Ahmadinejad asked Zardari to "commission the intelligence organ of his country to identify, arrest and deliver the well-known terrorists to the Islamic Republic of Iran to stand for a fair trial."

Ahmadinejad said Iran's intelligence agencies are "ready for exchange of information with Pakistan."

"Cooperation and decisive joint actions would beyond doubt lead to the uprooting of terrorism in the region," he said.

Zardari assured his Iranian counterpart that Pakistan "would spare no effort and assistance in cooperation for uprooting terrorism."

He asked Ahmadinejad to convey his deep sorrow to the Iranian people and the kin of the victims of the recent terrorist attack in Chabahar.

On Saturday, Iranian Ambassador Mashallah Shakeri handed over a communique to Interior Minister Rehman Malik demanding Pakistan's cooperation in investigating the Chabahar suicide bombing that killed nearly 40 people and injured over 100.

Iran has asked Pakistan to act against the Jundullah (Army of God) terrorist group, which claimed responsibility for the attack on a Shia procession on December 15.

Iran has often alleged that Jundullah operatives are based and trained in Pakistan.

Iranian authorities said they had caught one of the bomber's accomplices at the border, apparently trying to slip back into Pakistan.

Pakistan and Iran have reportedly agreed to a meeting of their Interior Ministers in Istanbul on the sidelines of an upcoming Economic Cooperation Organisation meeting to address the fallout of the suicide attack.

Since the Chabahar bombing, several Iranian leaders have criticised Pakistan for its failure to end Jundallah sanctuaries in its territory and prevent cross-border movements of the group's activists.

Iran's Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Maj Gen Hassan Firouzabadi said yesterday that Pakistan is Iran's friend "but unfortunately it does not control terrorists."

He added: "If Pakistan fails to control terrorist attacks on its borders like recent years, we will exercise our legitimate rights."

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 21 Dec 2010 16:22

Narad wrote: Haggu says emphatically that no foreign armed forces are allowed to operate within paki sovereign territory. What may be his take on the presence of Chinese army in POK??

The logical fallout of his above assertion is that :

1) Pakis do not consider chinese as 'foreigners'.
OR
2) Pakis do not consider POK as their 'sovereign territory'.

Well, H&D seem to supersede common human logic here.

Chinies are not foreigners. They are the masters.

vic · Post by **vic** » 21 Dec 2010 17:34

SSridhar wrote:There is no electrified railway section in TSP because there are no electric locos
The National Assembly on Monday was informed that the Lahore to Khanewal electric locomotive had been shut down since 2008 due to the non-availability of electric locomotives.

Federal Minister for Railways Ghulam Ahmad Bilour, during the question hour session, said in 1970, the government initiated an electric train system from the Lahore to Khanewal section comprising 286 kilometres. Later on, Lahore to Mughalpura to Cantt section of 7.40 km was also added to the system. At present, there were no electrified systems because all electric locomotive were non-functional and the financial constraints did not allowed {sic} the ministry to operate them.

The minister said that around 1,000 locomotives had stopped functioning. In the last 10 years, he said the government had purchased 69 locomotives from China but due to lack of proper maintenance, majority of them were also not functional and had shut down.

Commenting on purchasing new trains, Bilour said the present government was in negotiations to purchase 75 locomotives from China and 150 from the US, which would help the organisation restore its old destination within the country.

I am astounded to learn that terroristan has no electric loco/railways

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 21 Dec 2010 17:38

Thats is because they are using that in fight against terror

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 21 Dec 2010 19:14

SSridhar wrote:There is no electrified railway section in TSP because there are no electric locos
The National Assembly on Monday was informed that the Lahore to Khanewal electric locomotive had been shut down since 2008 due to the non-availability of electric locomotives.

Federal Minister for Railways Ghulam Ahmad Bilour, during the question hour session, said in 1970, the government initiated an electric train system from the Lahore to Khanewal section comprising 286 kilometres. Later on, Lahore to Mughalpura to Cantt section of 7.40 km was also added to the system. At present, there were no electrified systems because all electric locomotive were non-functional and the financial constraints did not allowed {sic} the ministry to operate them.

The minister said that around 1,000 locomotives had stopped functioning. In the last 10 years, he said the government had purchased 69 locomotives from China but due to lack of proper maintenance, majority of them were also not functional and had shut down.

Commenting on purchasing new trains, Bilour said the present government was in negotiations to purchase 75 locomotives from China and 150 from the US, which would help the organisation restore its old destination within the country.

Pakis are a unique scientifically advanced nation "making" their own nukes and missiles, Habib's Sitara, and now a gyrocopter, yet they can not make a electrical locomotive? Or mine their own gold/copper?

wig · Post by **wig** » 21 Dec 2010 19:53

Cracks widen in Pakistan's ruling coalition, key ally quits

ISLAMABAD: The cracks within the ruling coalition in Pakistan widened Tuesday after a key ally made it clear that it had "no intention of returning to the (coalition) fold".

Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani last week sacked minister for science and technology Azam Swati, who was a cabinet member from Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F). This enraged JUI-F chief Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman. He not only decided to withdraw his party's support to the government, but also submitted resignations of four other ministers of the party.

Although Fazl-ur-Rehman has decided against resigning from the chairmanship of the Kashmir committee and council of Islamic ideology, which is giving the central government hopes of his return, he has made it clear that "he has no intention of returning to the (coalition) fold".

The party has also sought from the speaker allotment of opposition benches for its members in parliament.

Fazl-ur-Rehman told the media Tuesday that "the speculations of our return to the coalition are not right".

"I am not a hyperactive persona and happen to give margins to the allies. However, this was a limit because our minister was sacked without any logical grounds and also without taking us into confidence," he said.

Swati was sacked after he was embroiled in a war of words with the then federal minister for religious affairs, Hamid Saeed Kazmi, and traded with him charges of corruption. Kazmi had also sent Swati a defamation notice for Rs.10 million while Swati appeared against Kazmi in the Supreme Court to substantiate his charges.

After failing to achieve a truce between Kazmi and Swati, Gilani sacked both ministers.

As the JUI-F is no longer part of the government, the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid chief Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain is trying to woo the Maulana to join hands to cause a political upheaval in southwestern Balochistan province.

The PML-Q had emerged as the single largest party in Balochistan after the 2008 elections, but could not form the government after some of its members defected to the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP).

On the other hand, Sindh home minister Zulfiqar Mirza's allegations that the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) is involved in target-killing and extortion in Karachi has forced the coalition partner to give a 10-day deadline to the government to reconsider its aggressive stance. The MQM delegation has called on President Zardari and premier Gilani to register their protest.

The party has hinted that it would not mind ditching the ruling coalition if Zulfiqar Mirza sticks to his guns and party elders do not take punitive action against him.

"If Azam Swati was sacked for washing dirty linen in public, why is the same action not being taken against Mirza, who belongs to PPP?" asked Farooq Sattar, a minister from the MQM.

The MQM, keeping its options open in the volatile political environment, has already held meetings with the JUI-F besides other parties in the opposition like the PML-Q, PML-Functional and the right-wing Jamaat Islami (JI). The JI has also indicated it would activate the now defunct Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal, an alliance of religio-political parties, against the government.

Now, all eyes are on former premier Nawaz Sharif, chief of opposition PML-N, who holds the numerical strength to derail the government if he joins hands with another powerful group. However, he is playing a waiting game and has said that he "will not be part of any undemocratic move".

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 140385.cms

saip · Post by **saip** » 21 Dec 2010 20:19

Narad wrote:‘No foreign troops can operate on our soil’

“Pakistani forces are capable of handling the militant threat within our borders and no foreign forces are allowed or required to operate inside our sovereign territory,” Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani said.
Haggu says emphatically that no foreign armed forces are allowed to operate within paki sovereign territory. What may be his take on the presence of Chinese army in POK??

The logical fallout of his above assertion is that :

1) Pakis do not consider chinese as 'foreigners'.
OR
2) Pakis do not consider POK as their 'sovereign territory'.

Well, H&D seem to supersede common human logic here.

Easy to solve this. Give them citizenship and then declare them nishan e something or the other.

saip · Post by **saip** » 21 Dec 2010 20:20

Deleted.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 21 Dec 2010 20:37

back to H&D

Pakistan stars ignored again for IPL

Pakistan's cricketers will continue to miss out on the Indian Premier League bonanza after none of them were included in the auction for next year's money-spinning event, organisers said Tuesday.

No Pakistani featured in a list of 416 players whose services will be auctioned in Bangalore on January 8-9 for the fourth edition of the Twenty20 tournament, which is to be held in April and May.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 21 Dec 2010 20:40

Karachi gang rape shocks Pakistan

A young woman was pulled out of her car and raped by four to five men in an upmarket area of Karachi, in an incident that has shaken the city and prompted the governor of Sindh province to order a top-level

Incidentally, a notorious rapist, Ali Muhammad Hajiano, who was arrested last year after being involved in number of cases used to adopt the same modus operandi to snare his victims.

The son of an influential person, mystery surrounds the fate of Hajiano with some media reports stating that he had escaped to Dubai.

His father had reportedly said on a television channel that no one would be able to keep his son locked up for long

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 21 Dec 2010 20:42

is 6 months enough to rehablitate all the assets?

'Pak may launch military offensive in N.Waziristan Agency in 6 months'

archan · Post by **archan** » 21 Dec 2010 20:42

Question is, will the (alleged) victim be able to come up with four male witnesses?

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 21 Dec 2010 20:46

Tecnically archan ji we need to ensure (following points are validated) that was mohatarma covered?, was she accompanied with a male relative? and what was she doing at night on the road? Since my assumption is that she was uncovered meat I guess it was halal and shariah compliant act on part of the gazis who just thought of it as war booty that can be used. We need a more learned mulla to provide guidence or least setup shariah counselling threads on the forum. If mohatarma cannot prove the act then its a clear case of zina punishable by stoning & lashing

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Dec 2010 20:51

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg7_3

LAHORE: Daily Times can confirm that two al Qaeda operatives who were caught in Karachi in a joint raid by Pakistani and American special forces last month were Umar Misri, a top aide of al Qaeda’s number two Ayman al Zawahiri and Muhammad Muhammad, the operational manager of al Qaeda.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Dec 2010 20:56

Brad Goodman wrote:
Incidentally, a notorious rapist, Ali Muhammad Hajiano, who was arrested last year after being involved in number of cases used to adopt the same modus operandi to snare his victims.

The son of an influential person, mystery surrounds the fate of Hajiano with some media reports stating that he had escaped to Dubai.

His father had reportedly said on a television channel that no one would be able to keep his son locked up for long

On Ali Muhammad Hajiano:
http://zagtalk.surferzag.com/?p=701

ashokpachori · Post by **ashokpachori** » 21 Dec 2010 20:58

abhishek_sharma wrote:
shynee wrote:U.S. Military Seeks to Expand Raids in Pakistan
They probably expected it. That is why they have conducted a missile test.

Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, a spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force, said "there is absolutely no truth to reporting in the New York Times that U.S. forces are planning to conduct ground operations into Pakistan.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiap ... tan.raids/

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Dec 2010 21:09

http://zagtalk.surferzag.com/?p=581

The sad thing however was the admission of the police high-ups that they won't be able to hold these guys for more than a couple of months. It is not because of any political pressure or coercion by the police department, but because people are not willing to come forward and testify against them.

According to the police, Ali Mohammad Hajiano has admitted that he has raped at least seven of his victims while robbing them and that he got kicks out of physically assaulting his female victims. He has 32 FIRs registered against him for various crimes and 40 unregistered cases (katchi parchi, in local police lingo). There might be more that haven't even been reported, yet only 3 people have agreed to testify against them in court and neither of these three is a rape case. In this case the maximum amount of time these criminals will have to spend behind bars is a few months, maybe even less.

Not clear why the culprit's admission is not admissible in court.

From elsewhere: "Mohammad Ali Hajiano, son of former EDO Education Gul Mohammad Hajiano, and Umair Khan son of Mohammed Ashraf, SSP"

PS:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/92275/clift ... es-notice/

KARACHI:

It took the gang rape survivor less than 24 hours to realise that she was better off withdrawing her statement, so badly did the government and police manage the case.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 21 Dec 2010 21:31

shiv wrote:
Theo_Fidel wrote:
This is a much better video of that gyrocopter. Can anyone identify the kit it is from. There's got to be a name some where on it.

That pilot even has a gyrocopter insignia on his arm. There is some gems in the dialogue someone can pick out better than I can.
I am reasonable sure it is this one from the site http://www.aircommand.com/

Yup! Thats the one alright. They even have a modified two seater model.

These guys should hang a dealership sign out the door. Bunch of amateurs.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 21 Dec 2010 21:41

Comedian under fire for Burka Woman version of Pretty Woman
A stand-up comedian has become a hate figure in Pakistan after his cheeky remake of Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman, with the title Burka Woman, became an internet sensation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Woman.html

However, the video has caused a storm in Pakistan, the cradle of the Taliban, where conservative religious leaders hold considerable influence.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 21 Dec 2010 21:46

Congress 'more dangerous' than Pak-sponsored terror: BJP

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 21 Dec 2010 21:54

If you want a real picture of pakhanastan combine the above lawless ness with
Job market and Pakistani graduates

At least 90 per cent of our graduates want jobs in government departments which is impossible. However, the truth is that government jobs are filled through connections and backdoors, leading to our talented youths becoming frustrated.

Add to that absolutely no way they can now immigrate to west all thanks to their islamic fundu brothers.

In addition another interesting bit of info I heard from a paki co-worker was that there is absolutely no avenues for entertainments left for pakis. Their stage plays died thanks to Zia. Their cinema was non existent and now there is no dance, music left barring few pop albums / concerts that are only available to RAPES. Middle class is content watching STAR Plus and Zee Tv. Now some cinema halls have become available thanks to Hindi cinema. But by far what qualifies as entertainment to most pakis is to go to resturants and eat. With no culture, no sports and no tolerance pakis are living in hell already.

archan · Post by **archan** » 21 Dec 2010 22:03

^^ one wonders why doesn't the "all weather" friend come to help in this regard. They could surely use some pakroaches and their "IT expertise" in certain regions...

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Dec 2010 22:14

Archanullah

Pakis are Araps; and they are endowed with divine resources such as terrorists, jihadis, paki-army etc.

How can a paki-arap work for private business, which is haraam? they will be taken care by the kingdom of pakiland..

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 21 Dec 2010 22:16

archan wrote:Question is, will the (alleged) victim be able to come up with four male witnesses?

She had better!
Now that it has been established that a sexual act took place,
She had better come up with 4 pious mard witnesses or risk getting flogged outside Binori Masjid for adultry.

Pakistan ka matlab kya?
L**d pe chade, hamara kya.

chandrabhan · Post by **chandrabhan** » 21 Dec 2010 22:18

We are getting feelers from few of the TSP 'Mard' for the IPL4 including one of their former stars for the post of assistant coach...

I can't reply as my laptop crashed.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 21 Dec 2010 23:03

Gagan wrote:
archan wrote:Question is, will the (alleged) victim be able to come up with four male witnesses?

Pakistan ka matlab kya?
L**d pe chade, hamara kya.

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