Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10, 2015

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Rahul M wrote:
oh dear god. that walking up with the pink panther theme in background. :rotfl: :rotfl:


:rotfl: (warning: some NSFW language)
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Pakis desperately want Nawaz Shariff's US visit to happen after Modi's US visit.
US NSA in Islamabad to finalise agenda for PM’s visit
Mr Sharif’s upcoming trip is being described by the American side, in their private conversations, as a working visit. Pakistani officials are, however, trying to turn it into an official visit.
:lol:

BTW, this from 10 days ago:
Barack Obama, Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif meeting not been confirmed: White House
"This is news to me," Peter R Lavoy, Special Assistant to US President and Senior Director for South Asian Affairs at the National Security Council of the White House, ssaid when his attention was drawn to reports in this regard. "We have not made any announcement about Nawaz Sharif coming to Washington. Although I have seen press reports about that," he said. "We have not made any statements about that," Lavoy reiterated when asked for a second time if Obama has invited Sharif for a meeting at the White House in October. "If it is pakka (final) you would be the first to hear," he said.
400% true that Susan Rice is visiting to finalize agenda for Nawaz Shariff's US visit. :rotfl:
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The visit and happen and Sharif will meet Obama. Rest is all contrived optics.
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Paul wrote:The visit and happen and Sharif will meet Obama. Rest is all contrived optics.
Of course the meeting will happen. After all every world leader will be in US for UNGA but thing is Pakistan is trying to pass off a DC visit on the sidelines of UNGA as a bilateral visit. Even Modi is meeting Obama.
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CRamS wrote:Guys, any speculation on what could possibly be cooking?

http://www.voanews.com/content/rice-in- ... 37604.html
My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.
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I think this is a "WTF is going on guys?" visit.

Amirkhan has lost the plot in Pindisloo.
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A_Gupta wrote: My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism, and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.
Seems like the best explanation I've heard so far!
Next step the Baki produce ze rabbid (some strike drone!) from the Musharaff and all will be forgiven :mrgreen:
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A_Gupta wrote:
CRamS wrote:Guys, any speculation on what could possibly be cooking?

http://www.voanews.com/content/rice-in- ... 37604.html
My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.
Nothing new. That Fashion Doll President lied to give a certificate to Pakis on Nuke programme. Om baba will do the same.
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LalitS Jamwal 2 days ago
Soon India will launch the GSLV-3 one of the most powerful rockets on our planet with an Indian made huge cryogenic engine. Then we shall hear that Pakistan has more nuclear weapons than Russia! The nuclear program of tiny Pakistan (a proxy state) is the hoax of the century. This non-sovereign state has no Uranium ore and has received two crude Uranium bombs from Communist China.
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Some more stuff about the Gurdaspur terrorists' GPS, weapons and shoes, showing that they came from Pakistan:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 689416.cms
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CRamS wrote:Look at his orientation. Of all the negativism and evils he could have chosen from, chief among them TSP terror in Gurdaspr, Udampur, LoC firings, Lakshvi relase to name just a few, all that the creep could come out is glowing praise of a Paki liar, and bashing his own govt.
He and many others like him can't stomach the fact that Narendra Modi has the mandate of the Indian people. It is even harder for people like him to admit that PM Modi is governing the country wisely. His friends in the Gandhi family mafia are destined for oblivion, and the uprooting of the old certainties is causing this type of traitorous behaviour.
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A_Gupta wrote:My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.
A_Gupta, excellent analysis. Very much possible. The two are Made for Each Other.
Something like how the Pressler amendment was drafted in Islamabad
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eklavya wrote: He and many others like him can't stomach the fact that Narendra Modi has the mandate of the Indian people. It is even harder for people like him to admit that PM Modi is governing the country wisely. His friends in the Gandhi family mafia are destined for oblivion, and the uprooting of the old certainties is causing this type of traitorous behaviour.
http://www.swapan55.com/2015/08/when-an ... -into.html

Bit OT, but here is a striking passage (which explains the Karan Thapar phenomenon):
What we are witnessing is the willingness of an intellectual diaspora to actually wage war on India’s development. From political opposition to Modi they have moved to sabotaging India in the world.

If I didn’t think their paranoia suggest a deep disconnect with Indian realities, I would have called them treacherous. In any case, it is always worth remembering the names of all those who are ready to subvert India because they didn’t like the way Indians voted.
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Thanks Anujan, good observations in that article.

Modi is the rare PM who is a total outsider in New Delhi and one who has never had to bow before the Gandhi family gangsters. Many of these Delhi insiders are massively disoriented by the fact that immense power and legitimacy has been thrust by the masses into the hands of this outsider (and one who has no intention of joining the cosy club i.e. being co-opted) who they cannot subvert in any way.

Give this PM time; he will clear out the gathered muck of the last seven decades.
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Gunmen attack southwest Pakistan airport, kill 1, abduct 1
QUETTA, Pakistan: Authorities say gunmen have attacked a small airport in restive southwestern Pakistan, killing one official there and kidnapping another.
Jewni airport is some 860 kilometers (530 miles) southwest of Quetta.
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Hmm
Jewni airstrip is just a few Kms from the Iran border, its between Gawadar and the Iranian border, right on the seaside.
Wonder who these people could be.
The airstrip is unpaved, doesn't look like a houbara hunting site, maybe a drugs smugggling route that biradher islami mulq Iran is taking out? Or maybe the baloch taking out some pakjabis?
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Pakistan conveys concern to US NSA over blocked Coalition Support Fund - Dawn
US National Security Adviser (NSA) Susan Rice called on Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Sunday. She was accompanied by Senior Director for South Asian Affairs at the US National Security Council Dr. Peter Lavoy and Ambassador to Pakistan Richard Olson.

The meeting focused on matters of bilateral interest and the future of Pakistan-US relations.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif took Rice into confidence regarding prevailing security situation in the region, particularly the relations with India and Afghanistan.

The Pakistani side, which included Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs and National Security Sartaj Aziz, Prime Minister's Special Assistant Tariq Fatemi and Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry, conveyed Pakistan’s concerns over the block in disbursement of the next tranche of Coalition Support Fund (CSF). Pakistan emphasised to US NSA the restoration of the fund next year.

Matters related to the war on terror and security and counter-terrorism efforts between Pakistan and the US came under discussion.

The premier apprised the NSA on Pakistan’s efforts for bringing peace and stability in Afghanistan.

A peaceful and stable Afghanistan is not only of regional interest, but also in Pakistan’s interest, the prime minister said.

On relations with New Delhi, Nawaz said Pakistan wanted to hold a meaningful and objective dialogue on all outstanding issues with India.

He also informed the US delegation the reasons behind the cancellation of talks between NSAs of India and Pakistan.

Nawaz said that the US is an important partner of Pakistan in all areas especially economy, defence and counter-terrorism. He said that Pakistan sees its relations with the US as a partnership which is in the interest of the two countries, the region and the world.

The prime minister said that he was looking forward to his visit to the US in October this year as an opportunity to further strengthen the ties between the two countries.

Rice underscored the importance of strong Pakistan-US relations. She noted the positive direction of ongoing cooperation between the two countries especially in the areas of defence, economy and energy sectors.

Rice expressed appreciation for the sacrifices made by the Pakistan Army and Pakistani nation in the efforts to root out terrorism and extremism and the success achieved so far.

She lauded Pakistan’s role in bringing regional stability by holding the first round of Taliban dialogue in Islamabad.

She also expressed appreciation for the premier’s vision of a peaceful neighbourhood.

Rice assured the Pakistani delegation that Pakistan's concerns regarding issuance of CSF and security issues will be conveyed to the White House.

The US has been reimbursing Pakistan for operations and maintenance costs incurred in direct support of its operations in Afghanistan since 2001. So far $13 billion has been reimbursed to Pakistan under this arrangement.

The CSF arrangement was supposed to end with the completion of the drawdown in Dec 2014, but the US government late last year extended the programme for another year through legislation which envisaged additional conditions, including a requirement for certification by the defence secretary that military operations in North Waziristan have significantly disrupted the safe haven and freedom of movement of the Haqqani network in Pakistan.

The certification has to be made by the US defence secretary to congressional committees after every six months.

In a move that has blocked the disbursement of the next tranche of CSF, the US told Pakistan that it would not be certifying to the Congress that its (Pakistani) counter-terrorism operation in North Waziristan damaged the Haqqani network.

The last tranche of $337 million was received by Pakistan last month. The non-certification will affect the disbursement of the next installment.

Doubts have been expressed in the past by both the US and Afghanistan that the Haqqani network has been spared in the Operation Zarb-i-Azb. But it’s the first time that the US has taken such a harsh step.

Pakistani military has, however, been insisting that “terrorists of all shades” were targeted in Zarb-i-Azb launched in June last year.
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Gagan wrote:Hmm
Jewni airstrip is just a few Kms from the Iran border, its between Gawadar and the Iranian border, right on the seaside.
Wonder who these people could be.
The airstrip is unpaved, doesn't look like a houbara hunting site, maybe a drugs smugggling route that biradher islami mulq Iran is taking out? Or maybe the baloch taking out some pakjabis?
Gagan Ji :

The Pak Bahri'a has a Naval Base at Jiwni 25°03'N 61°44'E:

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There are some few people awake in Pakistan.
Mubarak Ali in the Dawn:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1203153/past-p ... s-and-lies
We must correct our understanding of the nature and role of an invader. Invasions always took place for greed and lust or for wealth or occupation of someone else’s land and resources without any ‘moral’ justification. It is customary to be proud of our invaders such as Muhammad Bin Qasim, Mehmood of Ghazna and Muhammad Ghori and to denounce other invaders who looted our country from time to time. In fact, all these invaders were mass murderers and should be treated as criminals in history. We recognised Muhammad Bin Qasim as a conqueror and hero because Sindh was converted to Islam. Charles Napier invaded Sindh in 1843 modernised it but because Sindh did not convert to Christianity therefore, Charles Napier’s status remained to being an invader and did not replace Muhammad Bin Qasim’s as a hero.
There is no shame in the admittance of mistakes because mistakes can only be corrected after recognising them as mistakes.
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^^^ 1 reasonable paki -- 300+ million more to go...assuming this guy is not bull-cutleted at some point for being against the mulk's interests of looting and plundering like their heroes.
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Pakistan can be compared to a Heroin Addict :D. It must be fed his daily, weekly, monthly fix ,i.e dollars (but the addict does not 'care' about his immediate family ie people / nation , as long as he gets his quota of drugs :D ) ; whenever, the drugs (dollars) are stopped by the Dealer (U.S.A) for non-payment of past dues (e.g. inadequate military operation to disrupt Haqqani Network , the Addict (Pakistan ) gets withdrawal symptoms and the Mafia (U.S.A) to protect its territory (Pakistan ) from being taken over by rival gangs (China, Russia ), dispatches the Mafia Head (A.K.A. NSA Advisor) to arrive at a mutually agreeable solution to keep the business (drugs/dollars ) going.
The best solution of course, is to get off the Drugs (Dollars), stop living beyond your means,(ie reduce Defence Expenditures) educate your children in proper schools ( increase education expenditures ) and stop giving the drugs (dollars) free ( control corruption).
Easier said than done, specially when you have been on Drugs, ever since you were born ( 1947) :D
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I guess coming from a line of slaveowners must rankle Christine Fair, quite lovely how she dismisses Islam's destructive and evil history in India as "anti muslim". This joker needs to remain a paki expert like her idol Stephen Cohen (the lying oiseaule, not the scholar on Russian Affairs).
কাঞ্চন গুপ্ত @KanchanGupta
@CChristineFair America and Americans have not been fortunate enough to live under Islamic rule. Hence you aren't sure of what to say.

@CChristineFair 5h5 hours ago
Oh please. This is silly. YOU haven't lived under Islamic rule. Slavery is much larger than any one religion.

‏@KanchanGupta @CChristineFair Neither have you. My forefathers have. Yours haven't.
PS: If contrarian view is silly, that would make you...
Take care:)
Followed by the standard "you f@rted" repartee of "liberal" oiseaules of CFair's kind. Just dismiss the worldview/narrative of someone else as being "bigoted"...argument won. After all, this twit's PhD advisor knows better than the common narrative of Indians about their own history, right?

Ben affleck did the exact same thing on Bill Maher's show with Sam Harris. As if anyone gives a sh!t what this pompous academic turd CFair thinks as she hands out certificates of "certified non bigot". :roll:
Christine Fair: Kanchan Gupta, No. Your view expressed just belies an anti Muslim tone that makes me think less of you. Welcome your clarification.
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@ETDefence Aug 29
Pakistan's army chief #RaheelSharif says 'India-backed terror' linked to #LoC firing http://ecoti.ms/LIk4mb
Pakis back to their standard tactic of pretending that India does exactly what Pakis are doing, so the rest of the world can pretend an equal-equal...and we have Indian honchos tell us that "getting the exact wording right" in agreements with pakistan is of paramount importance. sheesh.
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Zulfiqar Bhutto's Dictatorial Mindset Explained

Smokers’ Corner: Bhutto’s ideologue: friend, mentor, enemy
In 1966 when Z.A. Bhutto was pushed out fired [*] :cry: from his post as Foreign Minister by the regime of Field Martial Ayub Khan, he found himself wandering aimlessly in the political wilderness. Historian Stanley Wolpert (in his book, Zulfi Bhutto of Pakistan), and Philip E. Jones (in Pakistan People’s Party: Rise to Power), have covered in detail this period of Bhutto’s life, suggesting that he had even decided to quit politics and leave the country.
[*] probably on Uncle's orders

Bhutto had opposed Ayub’s ceasefire agreement with the Indian Prime Minster[*] after the 1965 Pakistan-India war reached a stalemate. The war was largely initiated by Bhutto’s analysis that suggested that the ‘Indian military was vulnerable after it was defeated by the Chinese army in 1962.’ [/b]
[*] Pak Press Reports at that time, even dubbed Bhutto as an Indian Agent, due to his antecedents (Hindu-born mother)!
The resultant despondency drove Bhutto to leave Pakistan for the UK. There he began receiving letters from J. A. Rahim. Rahim was a retired civil servant who had been a secret member of the clandestine Communist Party of Pakistan (CPP). Rahim advised Bhutto to form his own party. Bhutto met Rahim and the latter convinced Bhutto by explaining him how Pakistan was ripe for the emergence of a populist progressive party.


Rahim also authored much of the party literature that was translated into Urdu and regional languages and then distributed for indoctrination purposes and to counter the propaganda of right-wing parties that had begun to describe the PPP as an irreligious outfit.

But in 1975, Rahim was back and sitting in the drawing room of 70 Clifton with some other ministers. Bhutto often invited his ministers and party leaders for dinner but would not meet them till very late in the night.

Philip Jones explains how Rahim, now in his 70s, got agitated and complained, ‘I am not waiting for the Maharaja of Larkana anymore!’ He then stood up and left. The very next day an armed party of Bhutto’s special security force raided Rahim’s house, dragged him out, punched and kicked him, and then threw him in jail.
[*][/b]
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[*] Being from a pampered feudal class, ZAB did not take criticism easily. He was a demagogue pure and simple
Bhutto accused Rahim of insulting his (Bhutto’s) ethnicity. However, Bhutto soon released him, apologised and asked him to return to France. Rahim passed away in 1977, the year Bhutto’s regime fell in a reactionary coup orchestrated by General Ziaul Haq. Rahim’s son welcomed the fall.

During his last days in Zia’s death cell (in 1979), one of the things Bhutto is said to have regretted most was his fall-out with his former mentor. But he was no more. And after April 4, 1979, neither was Bhutto.
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A_Gupta wrote:There are some few people awake in Pakistan.
Mubarak Ali in the Dawn:
We must correct our understanding of the nature and role of an invader. Invasions always took place for greed and lust or for wealth or occupation of someone else’s land and resources without any ‘moral’ justification. It is customary to be proud of our invaders such as Muhammad Bin Qasim, Mehmood of Ghazna and Muhammad Ghori and to denounce other invaders who looted our country from time to time. In fact, all these invaders were mass murderers and should be treated as criminals in history. We recognised Muhammad Bin Qasim as a conqueror and hero because Sindh was converted to Islam. Charles Napier invaded Sindh in 1843 modernised it but because Sindh did not convert to Christianity therefore, Charles Napier’s status remained to being an invader and did not replace Muhammad Bin Qasim’s as a hero.
There is no shame in the admittance of mistakes because mistakes can only be corrected after recognising them as mistakes.
How nice.

What do you say now, you fascist modi-loving bleddy primitive yindoo idol worshippers?

Come to your senses, we can now go back to the place where we chant, see pakis aren't all bad, they are good and getting better, see, you yeevil yindoos made it harder for them by voting for mass murderer modi(who is of course just like qasim, gazni, ghori, Taimur etc. Tch. Tch. What a tragedy for the cause of peace in a nuclear flashpoint.) That too when baki beef-gosht kababwalas won't charge a paisa for wide-eyed Yindoo visitors. What afsos.

Let 's now head for wagah, don't forget to bring some candles,incidentally made from fat of cows that ancient aryans--who rode down from the steppes--killed and ate.

:-)
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Tuvaluan wrote:
@ETDefence Aug 29
Pakistan's army chief #RaheelSharif says 'India-backed terror' linked to #LoC firing http://ecoti.ms/LIk4mb
Pakis back to their standard tactic of pretending that India does exactly what Pakis are doing, so the rest of the world can pretend an equal-equal...and we have Indian honchos tell us that "getting the exact wording right" in agreements with pakistan is of paramount importance. sheesh.
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From Swapan Da's article:

The galaxy of historians, post-modernists, gender studies experts and sociologists—I didn’t detect physicists or other ‘science types’ in the long list—have basically called upon IT companies in the Silicon Valley to opt out of any engagement with the ‘Digital India’ programme of the Indian government.
Does anybody have a link to the list of treacherous traitors who filed this petition?
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A_Gupta wrote:
CRamS wrote:Guys, any speculation on what could possibly be cooking?

http://www.voanews.com/content/rice-in- ... 37604.html
My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.
I think your speculation is 400% accurate, and I say this after reading reports of her visit that someone posted. Even if its from TSP newspaper, it does does seem that she didn't read out any riot act or hold TSP responsible for the recent terror against India and Afghanistan. Its seem more like window dressing as you speculate so they certify TSP's "good behavior", and to India's detriment, more equal equal.
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Pakistan's 3 As that prop up its existence: Allah, Army, America
(could be expanded to a 4th A : Arabs, and of course, now Chinis are adding a 'C').
Pakistan's 3 As in foreign policy: Alms, Arms, Alibis
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SSridhar wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.
A_Gupta, excellent analysis. Very much possible. The two are Made for Each Other.
Something like how the Pressler amendment was drafted in Islamabad
I too agree with this. I think this is the annual budget negotiation process where unkil threatens to withhold $ until slave does his bidding. Nothing new here.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

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I Was Beaten In Pakistan For My Religion- Principal -In - Exile, Edwardes College , Peshawar
Why Has Pakistan Become So Intolerant? :roll:
A Christian couple, parents of three children with a fourth on the way, were accused of blasphemy by a mob and incinerated in a brick kiln at their worksite in Punjab last November. Suicide bombers blew themselves up at two churches in Lahore in March. Asia Bibi, a Christian laborer and mother of five, awaits a hearing on her death sentence after being accused of blasphemy in 2009. In Peshawar 127 worshipers were killed and 160 wounded by suicide bombers at All Saints’ Church in September 2013.

My getting beaten up by agents of Pakistan’s military Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in the back cab of a pickup truck on the outskirts of Peshawar last year was mild compared to the discrimination and violence that the country’s religious minorities have experienced since Pakistan was founded in 1947.
For starters, I’m a U.S. citizen, not a Pakistani. :eek: I was principal (the south Asian term for president) of one of Pakistan’s oldest and most prestigious institutions of higher education: Edwardes College, established in Peshawar in 1900 by a mission agency of the Church of England and since 1940 an institution of the local church. And I was being attacked not by the Taliban but by agents of the government’s most powerful intelligence unit. [*]
[*] Among other matters, Susan Rice (NSA) should have taken up his case with the Pakis :lol:
The assault on me was not personal but political, and the politics had everything to do with religion.
An irony in the case of Pakistan is that it achieved nationhood almost 70 years ago, but its 96% Muslim majority still exhibits the siege mentality of the minority status it sought to avoid in India. :roll:
The vast majority of Pakistanis are moderate and tolerant in their convictions. :roll:
At 200 million inhabitants, Pakistan is the world’s sixth most populous nation, and it will be fourth by 2050. So what happens with religious freedom in Pakistan is important for the future of religious freedom globally in the 21st century. Can religious people in the human family honor one another’s search for the sacred and explore each other’s paths? Or will religious people disparage, oppress and kill the religious other and thereby defile the divine? [*]

An Episcopal priest and theologian, Titus Presler, Th.D., is principal-in-exile of Edwardes College, Peshawar, and past president of the Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas.


[*] This 'Gentleman' needs to study the Book (not the Bible) to get a better understanding of this society :mrgreen:
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Forget that Dawn spin. This is from Reuters.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QZ0BI20150830
U.S. national security adviser discusses militant attacks in Pakistan talks
U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice met Pakistan's prime minister on Sunday to press concerns over attacks launched by militants based in Pakistan, officials said.

Rice "will address areas of mutual interest and of concern, including terrorist and militant attacks emanating from Pakistani soil", a senior U.S. official who asked not to be identified told Reuters.
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CRamS wrote:As expected, equal equal onlee

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-invites-pak ... 32291.html
And yeevil designs of yindoos defeated, once again. Take that, Modi.

NS should make sure he informs Obama that Modi admitted publicly that India liberated Bangladesh in 1971. That will expose India in front of the international community.
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Peregrine wrote:Gunmen attack southwest Pakistan airport, kill 1, abduct 1
QUETTA, Pakistan: Authorities say gunmen have attacked a small airport in restive southwestern Pakistan, killing one official there and kidnapping another.
Jewni airport is some 860 kilometers (530 miles) southwest of Quetta.
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Question 7: One Pakistani soldier (downhill skiing qualified) is equal to Ten kufr soldiers.Using this, extrapolate hown many kufr officials are less than one killed pakistani official. If the official had been an engineer, how many kufr engineers would have been kidnapped? Show your work, including the hideout where the kidnapped kufr engineers would have been kept. No sharpening of knives permitted in the examination hall.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-July 10,

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Waving the white flag? WTF!

India will never fire first bullet, but won't stop retaliating if fired upon: Rajnath Singh



Maharajganj: Home Minister Rajnath Singh on Sunday said that India has never and will never open unprovoked fire on Pakistan but if there is firing from the other side, then Pakistan should not expect any mercy.

"Pakistan began firing on our borders without any reason in November. I saw that five of our soldiers had been martyred and houses were destroyed. When I asked the BSF as to why we are not reacting, they told me that they were waving the white flag so that there could have a dialogue and stop the firing. I told them that the first bullet should under no circumstances be fired from the Indian side, but if we are fired upon, then we should not stop retaliating and strike back even harder," Rajnath said here while addressing a public rally.

The Home Minister pointedly asked Pakistan to answer if India had ever opened unprovoked fire on their borders and how they could stand to take the lives of innocent civilians and slammed them for cancelling the NSA-level talks.

"Even today India wants to talk with Pakistan on terrorism. Our Prime Minister is continuously trying to do so, but it is not happening. But whenever we try to make any attempt for a dialogue, they begin firing," he said.

He added that, until the BJP government was in power, they would not let India's pride and dignity be sullied in any way.

Rajnath Singh had earlier visited AIIMS in New Delhi on Saturday and met police constable Mohammad Salim and BSF jawan Ashok Kumar who had been injured in the gunbattle with Pakistani terrorists in Rafiabad, Srinagar from which a terrorist had been captured alive.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/ind ... 64940.html
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/946845/best ... -honoured/
Two Pakistani students, Ahmed Farooq and Usama Rauf of Islamabad School of Law (ISL) have secured the best aggregates in the world in the University of London International Programmes.
Seems like Axxactly two Pakis beat the rest of the world! :D
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Rice acknowledges Pakistan Army's efforts, sacrifices in war against terrorism
RAWALPINDI: US National Security Adviser Susan E. Rice called on Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif at GHQ, Rawalpindi on Sunday, the ISPR reported.According to Director General, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), Asim Saleem Bajwa, matters of mutual interest including regional security and situation were discussed.Bajwa also tweeted that Rice acknowledged and appreciated Pakistan Army's sincere efforts and sacrifices in the war against terrorism.Both dignitaries also recognised the continued need for close coordination for ensuring peace and stability in Afghanistan and the region.-
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I think TSP has achieved their objectives. They haven't paid any price, on the contrary being rewarded for their recent terrorist shenanigans. Remember, while TSP wants US involvement in "core issue" and other India TSP issues, thats only the icing on the cake.

TSP's real strategic gameplan is to keep punching India so it delivers the message to India that it can't ignore TSP and TSP can spoil India's party, while presenting a reasonable face to US, thereby making sure the equal equal is not disturbed, and at the same time get the F-solas and the like.

And to add insult to injury, US while fully cognizant of TSP's gameplan and an active participant in that, soothe's India's ego with symbolic crap like this, and that too coming from NotBright, I laugh my arse off

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/27/opini ... index.html
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CRamS wrote: And to add insult to injury, US while fully cognizant of TSP's gameplan and an active participant in that, soothe's India's ego with symbolic crap like this, and that too coming from NotBright, I laugh my arse off

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/27/opini ... index.html

You can take these folks as people whose opinion matters.

Or you can take them to be weather-vanes.

What is Halfbright's natural inclination? IMO - her natural inclination is to be hectoring India.

Therefore, if she is not, but instead is spouting symbolic crap, it means that the prevailing political winds are stronger than her natural tendencies. To continue to be relevant, she has perforce to spout symbolic crap.

How did that change occur? Not because of change of people and ideas in Washington, D.C.; it is because the Indian view is increasingly not ignorable.

There is also a decision one must make, one branch of which will great alleviate angst.

a. One is hoping for Americans to accept one as an equal, and their not accepting it is hurtful, and cause for angst.

b. One is equal whether Americans acknowledge it or not, and are only checking if they are ending their stupidity.

PS: In the rough-and-tumble one is bound to get bruised every now and then, in this umpire-less game of international relations. One then does not go off crying or dhoti-shivering. Ideally, one does not even show that one is hurting; one must leave the other side guessing.
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