Bharat Rakshak

Rahul M wrote:

JE Menon wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGQjD0MvW8Y

die laughing

oh dear god. that walking up with the pink panther theme in background.

Mr Sharif’s upcoming trip is being described by the American side, in their private conversations, as a working visit. Pakistani officials are, however, trying to turn it into an official visit.

"This is news to me," Peter R Lavoy, Special Assistant to US President and Senior Director for South Asian Affairs at the National Security Council of the White House, ssaid when his attention was drawn to reports in this regard. "We have not made any announcement about Nawaz Sharif coming to Washington. Although I have seen press reports about that," he said. "We have not made any statements about that," Lavoy reiterated when asked for a second time if Obama has invited Sharif for a meeting at the White House in October. "If it is pakka (final) you would be the first to hear," he said.

Paul wrote:The visit and happen and Sharif will meet Obama. Rest is all contrived optics.

CRamS wrote:Guys, any speculation on what could possibly be cooking?

http://www.voanews.com/content/rice-in- ... 37604.html

A_Gupta wrote: My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism, and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.

A_Gupta wrote:

CRamS wrote:Guys, any speculation on what could possibly be cooking?

http://www.voanews.com/content/rice-in- ... 37604.html

My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.

CRamS wrote:Look at his orientation. Of all the negativism and evils he could have chosen from, chief among them TSP terror in Gurdaspr, Udampur, LoC firings, Lakshvi relase to name just a few, all that the creep could come out is glowing praise of a Paki liar, and bashing his own govt.

A_Gupta wrote:My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.

eklavya wrote: He and many others like him can't stomach the fact that Narendra Modi has the mandate of the Indian people. It is even harder for people like him to admit that PM Modi is governing the country wisely. His friends in the Gandhi family mafia are destined for oblivion, and the uprooting of the old certainties is causing this type of traitorous behaviour.

What we are witnessing is the willingness of an intellectual diaspora to actually wage war on India’s development. From political opposition to Modi they have moved to sabotaging India in the world.

If I didn’t think their paranoia suggest a deep disconnect with Indian realities, I would have called them treacherous. In any case, it is always worth remembering the names of all those who are ready to subvert India because they didn’t like the way Indians voted.

QUETTA, Pakistan: Authorities say gunmen have attacked a small airport in restive southwestern Pakistan, killing one official there and kidnapping another.

Jewni airport is some 860 kilometers (530 miles) southwest of Quetta.

US National Security Adviser (NSA) Susan Rice called on Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Sunday. She was accompanied by Senior Director for South Asian Affairs at the US National Security Council Dr. Peter Lavoy and Ambassador to Pakistan Richard Olson.

The meeting focused on matters of bilateral interest and the future of Pakistan-US relations.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif took Rice into confidence regarding prevailing security situation in the region, particularly the relations with India and Afghanistan.

The Pakistani side, which included Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs and National Security Sartaj Aziz, Prime Minister's Special Assistant Tariq Fatemi and Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry, conveyed Pakistan’s concerns over the block in disbursement of the next tranche of Coalition Support Fund (CSF). Pakistan emphasised to US NSA the restoration of the fund next year.

Matters related to the war on terror and security and counter-terrorism efforts between Pakistan and the US came under discussion.

The premier apprised the NSA on Pakistan’s efforts for bringing peace and stability in Afghanistan.

A peaceful and stable Afghanistan is not only of regional interest, but also in Pakistan’s interest, the prime minister said.

On relations with New Delhi, Nawaz said Pakistan wanted to hold a meaningful and objective dialogue on all outstanding issues with India.

He also informed the US delegation the reasons behind the cancellation of talks between NSAs of India and Pakistan.

Nawaz said that the US is an important partner of Pakistan in all areas especially economy, defence and counter-terrorism. He said that Pakistan sees its relations with the US as a partnership which is in the interest of the two countries, the region and the world.

The prime minister said that he was looking forward to his visit to the US in October this year as an opportunity to further strengthen the ties between the two countries.

Rice underscored the importance of strong Pakistan-US relations. She noted the positive direction of ongoing cooperation between the two countries especially in the areas of defence, economy and energy sectors.

Rice expressed appreciation for the sacrifices made by the Pakistan Army and Pakistani nation in the efforts to root out terrorism and extremism and the success achieved so far.

She lauded Pakistan’s role in bringing regional stability by holding the first round of Taliban dialogue in Islamabad.

She also expressed appreciation for the premier’s vision of a peaceful neighbourhood.

Rice assured the Pakistani delegation that Pakistan's concerns regarding issuance of CSF and security issues will be conveyed to the White House.

The US has been reimbursing Pakistan for operations and maintenance costs incurred in direct support of its operations in Afghanistan since 2001. So far $13 billion has been reimbursed to Pakistan under this arrangement.

The CSF arrangement was supposed to end with the completion of the drawdown in Dec 2014, but the US government late last year extended the programme for another year through legislation which envisaged additional conditions, including a requirement for certification by the defence secretary that military operations in North Waziristan have significantly disrupted the safe haven and freedom of movement of the Haqqani network in Pakistan.

The certification has to be made by the US defence secretary to congressional committees after every six months.

In a move that has blocked the disbursement of the next tranche of CSF, the US told Pakistan that it would not be certifying to the Congress that its (Pakistani) counter-terrorism operation in North Waziristan damaged the Haqqani network.

The last tranche of $337 million was received by Pakistan last month. The non-certification will affect the disbursement of the next installment.

Doubts have been expressed in the past by both the US and Afghanistan that the Haqqani network has been spared in the Operation Zarb-i-Azb. But it’s the first time that the US has taken such a harsh step.

Pakistani military has, however, been insisting that “terrorists of all shades” were targeted in Zarb-i-Azb launched in June last year.

Gagan wrote:Hmm
Jewni airstrip is just a few Kms from the Iran border, its between Gawadar and the Iranian border, right on the seaside.
Wonder who these people could be.
The airstrip is unpaved, doesn't look like a houbara hunting site, maybe a drugs smugggling route that biradher islami mulq Iran is taking out? Or maybe the baloch taking out some pakjabis?

We must correct our understanding of the nature and role of an invader. Invasions always took place for greed and lust or for wealth or occupation of someone else’s land and resources without any ‘moral’ justification. It is customary to be proud of our invaders such as Muhammad Bin Qasim, Mehmood of Ghazna and Muhammad Ghori and to denounce other invaders who looted our country from time to time. In fact, all these invaders were mass murderers and should be treated as criminals in history. We recognised Muhammad Bin Qasim as a conqueror and hero because Sindh was converted to Islam. Charles Napier invaded Sindh in 1843 modernised it but because Sindh did not convert to Christianity therefore, Charles Napier’s status remained to being an invader and did not replace Muhammad Bin Qasim’s as a hero.

There is no shame in the admittance of mistakes because mistakes can only be corrected after recognising them as mistakes.

কাঞ্চন গুপ্ত @KanchanGupta
@CChristineFair America and Americans have not been fortunate enough to live under Islamic rule. Hence you aren't sure of what to say.

@CChristineFair 5h5 hours ago
Oh please. This is silly. YOU haven't lived under Islamic rule. Slavery is much larger than any one religion.

‏@KanchanGupta @CChristineFair Neither have you. My forefathers have. Yours haven't.
PS: If contrarian view is silly, that would make you...
Take care:)

Christine Fair: Kanchan Gupta, No. Your view expressed just belies an anti Muslim tone that makes me think less of you. Welcome your clarification.

@ETDefence Aug 29
Pakistan's army chief #RaheelSharif says 'India-backed terror' linked to #LoC firing http://ecoti.ms/LIk4mb

In 1966 when Z.A. Bhutto was pushed out fired [*] from his post as Foreign Minister by the regime of Field Martial Ayub Khan, he found himself wandering aimlessly in the political wilderness. Historian Stanley Wolpert (in his book, Zulfi Bhutto of Pakistan), and Philip E. Jones (in Pakistan People’s Party: Rise to Power), have covered in detail this period of Bhutto’s life, suggesting that he had even decided to quit politics and leave the country.

The resultant despondency drove Bhutto to leave Pakistan for the UK. There he began receiving letters from J. A. Rahim. Rahim was a retired civil servant who had been a secret member of the clandestine Communist Party of Pakistan (CPP). Rahim advised Bhutto to form his own party. Bhutto met Rahim and the latter convinced Bhutto by explaining him how Pakistan was ripe for the emergence of a populist progressive party.

Bhutto accused Rahim of insulting his (Bhutto’s) ethnicity. However, Bhutto soon released him, apologised and asked him to return to France. Rahim passed away in 1977, the year Bhutto’s regime fell in a reactionary coup orchestrated by General Ziaul Haq. Rahim’s son welcomed the fall.

During his last days in Zia’s death cell (in 1979), one of the things Bhutto is said to have regretted most was his fall-out with his former mentor. But he was no more. And after April 4, 1979, neither was Bhutto.

A_Gupta wrote:There are some few people awake in Pakistan.
Mubarak Ali in the Dawn:

We must correct our understanding of the nature and role of an invader. Invasions always took place for greed and lust or for wealth or occupation of someone else’s land and resources without any ‘moral’ justification. It is customary to be proud of our invaders such as Muhammad Bin Qasim, Mehmood of Ghazna and Muhammad Ghori and to denounce other invaders who looted our country from time to time. In fact, all these invaders were mass murderers and should be treated as criminals in history. We recognised Muhammad Bin Qasim as a conqueror and hero because Sindh was converted to Islam. Charles Napier invaded Sindh in 1843 modernised it but because Sindh did not convert to Christianity therefore, Charles Napier’s status remained to being an invader and did not replace Muhammad Bin Qasim’s as a hero.

There is no shame in the admittance of mistakes because mistakes can only be corrected after recognising them as mistakes.

Tuvaluan wrote:

@ETDefence Aug 29
Pakistan's army chief #RaheelSharif says 'India-backed terror' linked to #LoC firing http://ecoti.ms/LIk4mb

Pakis back to their standard tactic of pretending that India does exactly what Pakis are doing, so the rest of the world can pretend an equal-equal...and we have Indian honchos tell us that "getting the exact wording right" in agreements with pakistan is of paramount importance. sheesh.

The galaxy of historians, post-modernists, gender studies experts and sociologists—I didn’t detect physicists or other ‘science types’ in the long list—have basically called upon IT companies in the Silicon Valley to opt out of any engagement with the ‘Digital India’ programme of the Indian government.

A_Gupta wrote:

CRamS wrote:Guys, any speculation on what could possibly be cooking?

http://www.voanews.com/content/rice-in- ... 37604.html

My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.

SSridhar wrote:

A_Gupta wrote:My crazy guess is that US Department of Defense is refusing to certify that Pakistan has done enough on counter-terrorism (e.g., http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/us-set-t ... -pakistan/ ), and that means US money to Pakistan gets suspended; and US Department of State must be on the other side arguing that suspension of money to Pakistan will result in a US foreign policy disaster of the highest magnitude, blah, blah, blah, and so the US President has sent the US National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, to talk to the Pakistanis and to come back and give him some excuse to overrule the US Department of Defense.

A_Gupta, excellent analysis. Very much possible. The two are Made for Each Other.
Something like how the Pressler amendment was drafted in Islamabad

Why Has Pakistan Become So Intolerant?

A Christian couple, parents of three children with a fourth on the way, were accused of blasphemy by a mob and incinerated in a brick kiln at their worksite in Punjab last November. Suicide bombers blew themselves up at two churches in Lahore in March. Asia Bibi, a Christian laborer and mother of five, awaits a hearing on her death sentence after being accused of blasphemy in 2009. In Peshawar 127 worshipers were killed and 160 wounded by suicide bombers at All Saints’ Church in September 2013.

My getting beaten up by agents of Pakistan’s military Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in the back cab of a pickup truck on the outskirts of Peshawar last year was mild compared to the discrimination and violence that the country’s religious minorities have experienced since Pakistan was founded in 1947.

For starters, I’m a U.S. citizen, not a Pakistani. I was principal (the south Asian term for president) of one of Pakistan’s oldest and most prestigious institutions of higher education: Edwardes College, established in Peshawar in 1900 by a mission agency of the Church of England and since 1940 an institution of the local church. And I was being attacked not by the Taliban but by agents of the government’s most powerful intelligence unit. [*]

The assault on me was not personal but political, and the politics had everything to do with religion.

An irony in the case of Pakistan is that it achieved nationhood almost 70 years ago, but its 96% Muslim majority still exhibits the siege mentality of the minority status it sought to avoid in India.

The vast majority of Pakistanis are moderate and tolerant in their convictions.

At 200 million inhabitants, Pakistan is the world’s sixth most populous nation, and it will be fourth by 2050. So what happens with religious freedom in Pakistan is important for the future of religious freedom globally in the 21st century. Can religious people in the human family honor one another’s search for the sacred and explore each other’s paths? Or will religious people disparage, oppress and kill the religious other and thereby defile the divine? [*]

An Episcopal priest and theologian, Titus Presler, Th.D., is principal-in-exile of Edwardes College, Peshawar, and past president of the Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas.

U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice met Pakistan's prime minister on Sunday to press concerns over attacks launched by militants based in Pakistan, officials said.

Rice "will address areas of mutual interest and of concern, including terrorist and militant attacks emanating from Pakistani soil", a senior U.S. official who asked not to be identified told Reuters.

CRamS wrote:As expected, equal equal onlee

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-invites-pak ... 32291.html

Peregrine wrote:Gunmen attack southwest Pakistan airport, kill 1, abduct 1

QUETTA, Pakistan: Authorities say gunmen have attacked a small airport in restive southwestern Pakistan, killing one official there and kidnapping another.

Jewni airport is some 860 kilometers (530 miles) southwest of Quetta.

Cheers

India will never fire first bullet, but won't stop retaliating if fired upon: Rajnath Singh



Maharajganj: Home Minister Rajnath Singh on Sunday said that India has never and will never open unprovoked fire on Pakistan but if there is firing from the other side, then Pakistan should not expect any mercy.

"Pakistan began firing on our borders without any reason in November. I saw that five of our soldiers had been martyred and houses were destroyed. When I asked the BSF as to why we are not reacting, they told me that they were waving the white flag so that there could have a dialogue and stop the firing. I told them that the first bullet should under no circumstances be fired from the Indian side, but if we are fired upon, then we should not stop retaliating and strike back even harder," Rajnath said here while addressing a public rally.

The Home Minister pointedly asked Pakistan to answer if India had ever opened unprovoked fire on their borders and how they could stand to take the lives of innocent civilians and slammed them for cancelling the NSA-level talks.

"Even today India wants to talk with Pakistan on terrorism. Our Prime Minister is continuously trying to do so, but it is not happening. But whenever we try to make any attempt for a dialogue, they begin firing," he said.

He added that, until the BJP government was in power, they would not let India's pride and dignity be sullied in any way.

Rajnath Singh had earlier visited AIIMS in New Delhi on Saturday and met police constable Mohammad Salim and BSF jawan Ashok Kumar who had been injured in the gunbattle with Pakistani terrorists in Rafiabad, Srinagar from which a terrorist had been captured alive.

Two Pakistani students, Ahmed Farooq and Usama Rauf of Islamabad School of Law (ISL) have secured the best aggregates in the world in the University of London International Programmes.

RAWALPINDI: US National Security Adviser Susan E. Rice called on Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif at GHQ, Rawalpindi on Sunday, the ISPR reported.According to Director General, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), Asim Saleem Bajwa, matters of mutual interest including regional security and situation were discussed.Bajwa also tweeted that Rice acknowledged and appreciated Pakistan Army's sincere efforts and sacrifices in the war against terrorism.Both dignitaries also recognised the continued need for close coordination for ensuring peace and stability in Afghanistan and the region.-

CRamS wrote: And to add insult to injury, US while fully cognizant of TSP's gameplan and an active participant in that, soothe's India's ego with symbolic crap like this, and that too coming from NotBright, I laugh my arse off

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/27/opini ... index.html