Re: Geopolitical thread
Posted: 02 Jun 2011 22:00
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Hari Seldon wrote in Prespectives thread.....
Brilliant expose in Salon of the Britiosh historian/charlatan Niall Ferguson. This is the same clown who's had a lot of prescriptions for the TFTA west on how to navigate the global fin crisis such that the TFTAs retain dominance/ soup-e-rearity against the unwashed turd world.
Niall Ferguson and the brain-dead American right
Niass wrote:
More Fer-gas-son
Anyways, starts to get a tad OT for this dhaga perhaps. Should stop here. But read it all, for the laughs if nothing else.
Hari Seldon wrote in Prespectives thread.....
Brilliant expose in Salon of the Britiosh historian/charlatan Niall Ferguson. This is the same clown who's had a lot of prescriptions for the TFTA west on how to navigate the global fin crisis such that the TFTAs retain dominance/ soup-e-rearity against the unwashed turd world.
Niall Ferguson and the brain-dead American right
The US right is in for a prolonged slump with no redemption at the end of it. Rightly so, perhaps. Like someone famousluy asked and has so far gone unanswered "What exactly are American conservatives seeking to conserve?"The British historian owes his celebrity here to the absence of authentic American conservative intellectuals
Ouch or what?Recently, it was announced that Henry Kissinger has made him his official biographer, perhaps in the hope that Ferguson, who thinks that the Kaiser should have been allowed to crush Europe, will be equally kind to Kissinger’s reputation.![]()
Time magazine in 2004 named Ferguson one of the 100 most influential people in the world, which might help to explain the condition of the world.
The Brits have got pluckyness galore in them, gotta admit. To walk on with a straight face after faux paus like these takes some dragon scales for skin...The Dashing Brit then told the assembled plutocrats that unemployed Americans are lazy: "The curse of long term unemployment is that if you pay people to do nothing, they’ll find themselves doing nothing for long periods of time." On an earlier occasion he created a stir when he compared Barack Obama to the lascivious cartoon character Fritz the Cat, because, he said, both are "black and lucky."
Hmmm.Ferguson is the most prominent of a number of British conservative intellectuals and journalists who have found more sympathetic audiences in the U.S. than in their own country, where their enthusiasm for Victorian imperialism and Victorian economics stigmatizes them as cranks. His Old World accent and reactionary politics might not have been sufficient to earn Niall Ferguson his cisatlantic celebrity, were it not for the demise of American intellectual conservatism, chronicled by Sam Tanenhaus and others. The mass extinction of America’s intellectual right at the hands of anti-intellectual Jacksonian populists like the Tea Partyers has created a lack of native conservative thinkers with impressive academic credentials who are willing to dash to a TV studio at a moment’s notice. And in an era when the conservative movement is symbolized by lightweights like Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and Jonah Goldberg, rather than William F. Buckley Jr., George Will and Irving Kristol, even Niall Ferguson can be mistaken for an intellectual.
Niass wrote:
Whoa. Thank gawd for small mercies. No doubt WWI bankrupted the empire and sowed the beginning of the end of the Raj in its largest colony. BUt more serious historians aver the limits of brit imperial power were shown up rather starkly in the pyrrhic Boer war in the Afrikaans at the turn of the last to last century.Had Britain stood aside -- even for a matter of weeks -- continental Europe could therefore have been transformed into something not wholly unlike the European Union we know today -- but without the massive contraction in British overseas power entailed by the fighting of two world wars ... And there plainly would not have been that great incursion of American financial and military power into European affairs which effectively marked the end of British financial predominance in the world.
Alas, the world got American primacy and decolonization rather than world domination by the City of London in league with the German General Staff.

More Fer-gas-son
OMG. Such noble thoughts and our poor Thackerays, mere boy scouts against this col-ass-us get far more brickbats only..."Unlike most European critics of the United States, then, I believe the world needs an effective liberal empire and that the United States is the best candidate for the job." And should the neo-British American empire suffer from a shortage of willing cannon fodder, the Dashing Brit had a solution: "If one adds together the illegal immigrants, the jobless, and the convicts, there is surely ample raw material for a larger American army."
Anyways, starts to get a tad OT for this dhaga perhaps. Should stop here. But read it all, for the laughs if nothing else.