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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKuzEAh1jIA&NR=1


750 soldiers from across the world have descended on the Brecon Beacons in Wales to suffer through one of the toughest exercises ever devised. The Cambrian patrol takes two days to complete and tests the soldiering skills of the teams as they cross some of the most arduous terrain you can imagine. And as Toby Sadler reports this year's event has attracted entries from as far a field as Australia and Pakistan.

The competition consists of teams of 8 men carrying up to 55 kilos each across some of the most unforgiving terrain. There have been account of teams trudging through bog land up to their waist for 4 hours only to cover 1.5 km. It's a test of leadership, self discipline, courage and determination. The exercise usually starts with teams arriving at a Rendezvous before having their equipment checked to make sure they have everything required. Missing equipment will be replaced by dead weight and will mean points will be deducted. From there the team leader will be taken to orders while the rest of the team set up a quick hide, start their battle prep and prepare to receive orders i.e. prepare a model of the ground which will be covered during the patrol.
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are we participating in this exercise?
Yes..the Ex is over..the Pakistani Contingent placed first.
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rkhanna wrote:
are we participating in this exercise?
Yes..the Ex is over..the Pakistani Contingent placed first.
the UK MOD held a press conf and said that the event was not a competitive one and there was no rankings awarded, it was a case of paki media getting ahead of itself.
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UK MOD: Cambrian Patrol 2010
The Cambrian Patrol is an exercise and not a competition. It is conducted for the benefit of units and there is no final order of merit. The exercise is designed to be within the capability of any well-led and well-trained patrol from any Arm or Service. The exercise is the same for Regular and Reserve Forces patrols.
it would appear that the pak press has been declaring victory in the jihad because all teams were awarded a completion medal... :rotfl:
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^^^ Actually While its not a competition and no rankings are given awards are given based on how each evolution was completed. the Pakistan contingent got Gold (highest marks) along with one other unit. The Indian one got Silver or Bronze. How about we just give credit where its due since we are all military enthusiast here?
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US Army Alaska, Indian army soldiers exchange jump wings during Yudh Abhyas 2010

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Lt. Col. Christopher J. Cassibry, commander of 1st Squadron (Airborne), 40th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, presents a gift to a leader from the Indian army during an airborne jump wing exchange ceremony Nov. 13 at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska.
Soldiers from U.S. Army Alaska and the Indian army exchanged airborne jump wings and gifts during a ceremony Nov. 13 at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska. The soldiers earned their foreign jump wings Nov. 10 when they conducted a combined jump as part of the combined training exercise Yudh Abhyas 2010.

“It was a good friendship jump. It was something I was looking forward to throughout the entire exercise. I’m very proud to have their wings,” said Sgt. Bryon Moss, Headquarters and Headquarters Troop, 1st Squadron (Airborne), 40th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division. “It was a symbol of friendship to me, being paratroopers exchanging wings like that. It was an exceptional experience.”

Individual soldiers from both armies awarded their counterparts their jump wings during the ceremony. “I think it was very appropriate to have individual paratroopers from each brigade pin the wings on each other. It symbolizes personal bonds built at the individual level during Yudh Abhyas 2010,” Lt. Col. Christopher J. Cassibry, 1-40th CAV commander said. “These bonds were built by braving hardships and sharing risks while executing realistic combined training together.”

The ceremony was part of the conclusion of the two-week long exercise in which soldiers of U.S. Army Alaska and the Indian army worked side-by-side to conduct combined training operations. “It was a good experience being able to work along side the Indian army. I learned that they are hard-workers, very educated and friendly,” Moss said. “This wing exchange and the overall exercise was to build a friendship between us. It was also meant to put us on the same page in case of future operations together.” Leaders from each participating brigade exchanged gifts that commemorated and honored their time together during the exercise.
During the exercise, U.S. soldiers and their Indian counterparts conducted a command post exercise, airborne operations training, marksmanship and tactical training and took part in cultural exchanges to improve partnership readiness and cooperation between the armies of India and the United States.
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^Looking at the picture it's seen that the soldiers trained with the M4 rifles. What's that make the Indian Army to train with U.S equipment. Why not Indian. Are we going to fight with U.S weapons in in any joint operations that may arise in the future? :eek:
May be if it's a one time training to gauge the capability of the rifle etc, then it's o.k
This is a bad idea if it's otherwise. The soldier must have trained with our own Insas rifles. This should be the norm if there is a need for interoperability. Or if it's going to be $$$'s God bless India.
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End of army drill, pat from US
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Indian and US army commandos tried combined air assault and ground attack missions during the latest edition of a series of war games in Alaska that coincided with the visit of US President Barack Obama to India this week. The field drills for the exercises at Site Summit on Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson of Yudh Abhyas 2010 concluded today.

The soldiers began with a fortnight of classes and troop leading procedures that they rehearsed to function as members of a team, a drill designed for what the two militaries call “inter-operability”. “This mission was the culmination of all our work for the past couple of weeks. It was the last mission, the big mission and a very important one. A lot of preparation went into it. We’ve done nothing but training with the Indian soldiers and it’s been awesome,” said Sgt. Steve Faulkner, the team leader with Bravo Troop, 1st Squadron (Airborne), 40th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, quoted in a US army release.

The exercise was divided into three parts: security, support and assault. The Indian soldiers were among teams tasked to clear an area.

“The training we performed prior to this mission allowed them to understand our tactics and us to understand theirs and it eliminates any confusion,” said the release quoting Ross Berger, cavalry scout with Bravo Troop, 1-40th Cavalry. “It’s good to see how they operate because we’ve learned a lot from their tactics that we’ve never thought of. “I was surprised how exceptionally well we all worked together and meshed. There hasn’t been an instance of confusion. We understand each other really well,” Faulkner said. “Tactically, they are really sound,” Faulkner said. “We just gave them a little bit of instruction on the equipment.”

The Yudh Abhyas series of exercises is an annual feature. Like in the last edition in Babina in India, this time too the Indian soldiers tried out several US-made weapons, including the Javelin Anti-Tank Guided Missile. The Indian Army is buying at least 400 of the Raytheon-made weapons and the two sides are discussing a proposal to produce them under license and the Indian defence public sector Bharat Dynamics Limited.
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Indian-born U.S. Army Soldiers bridge culture gap during Yudh Abhyas 2010
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Cpl. Balreet Kaur, a medic for the 79th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (California National Guard), discusses exercise communication procedures with an Indian Army soldier at the battle command training center on Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson Nov. 4 during the combined training exercise Yudh Abhyas 2010. Balreet and her sister, Spc. Jasleen Kaur, also a medic for 79th IBCT, are cultural liaisons for the 14-day exercise that began Nov 1. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Ashley M. Armstrong)
“This brings our two countries much closer together and anytime we have experts from the other country it brings us much further along. They understand their customs and courtesies, so they help us out tremendously and make sure that we do not violate any of the normal policies that they follow,” said U.S. Army Alaska Deputy Commander Col. Mark S. Lowe, acting exercise director.

The soldiers were specifically chosen for the exercise because of their background, knowledge and experience ─ providing a common ground between the two armies. The soldiers also serve as medics and are involved in role playing. “Our commander knew that the Indian army and the U.S. Army were working together and he wanted something beyond just the exercise. He wanted the cultural aspect to mesh as well,” said Jasleen. They also speak Hindi, which helps with communication during the training events. “When we speak to them in Hindi they feel a little closer to home. Their faces light up to know that we can speak their language and that one barrier is down,” said Jasleen.

Jasleen and Balreet have provided guidance to USARAK on different accommodations that were necessary for the Indian soldiers to feel more comfortable in an unfamiliar environment. “In India, we shower with buckets that we fill with tap water and we use a mug to scoop the water out, so they wanted to make sure that the Indian soldiers in the field had the right mugs,” said Balreet. “They really have given 110 percent here. They have even offered Indian meals at the chow hall,” added Jasleen.

Initially, they were nervous about how the Indian Army would respond to them and were surprised with the attention they received. “We are Indians representing the United States so I think that they feel more comfortable coming up to us because they can relate to us more and ask us questions about America,” added Balreet. The sisters and their family left India in 2001 because of religious conflict in their home village and they haven’t returned since, so the experience during the exercise has been refreshing and educational for them, they said.

“With this experience, we actually get to learn more about where we came from and we get to learn about the Indian military. It’s been discussed many times how key this exercise is with the Indian army and the U.S. Army, so for us to be a part of that and to be exposed to this sort of setting is beneficial to us and, of course, to both parties,” said Balreet.


They have already learned many differences with rank structure, equipment and combat operations from conversations with the Indian soldiers, said Jasleen. “Everyone knows those two young soldiers and they’ve been very helpful at the senior-officer level, the NCO-level and the soldier-level, so they have established great rapport with the Indian Army. If anything, it will bring our countries much closer,” said Lowe.
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USARAK trains with Indian Army

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A soldier from the Indian Army fires a Javelin anti-tank missile at the Donnelly Training Area, Monday, during Yudh Abhyas 2010, an annual bilateral training exercise between the U.S. and Indian armies. (U.S. Army photo/Spc. Thomas Duval)
"We trained on anything that we thought we might come across during the mission. That way we are all in sync and can react to anything and make sure that everyone is on the same page," said Staff Sgt. Juan Rangel, senior scout for Bravo Troop, 1st Squadron (Airborne), 40th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division.

The instruction included training on movement techniques, principles of a zone reconnaissance, clearing techniques, react-to-contact, hand-and-arm signals, and other aspects of troop leading procedures. "The Indian army is already well trained and has a good understanding of what we are doing because their procedures are similar. This provided them a little more knowledge on how we operate," said Spc. Thomas Holcomb, a scout with Bravo Troop, 1-40th CAV. Though most of the training was on U.S. Army troop leading procedures, the Indian army shared their techniques also.

"It's a learning process. We teach them how we do things, and we also listen to how they do things," Rangel said. "They give us their feedback, and if it works we can incorporate it into what we are doing. I know we will get something out of learning how they conduct operations, something that we can add to how we carry out our missions." Reinforcing leadership roles was a focus of the training, which included instruction on receiving and disseminating an operations order, conducting rehearsals, pre-combat checks and inspections.

"These guys are really smart, and they listen," Rangel said. "So, it makes it easier on the leaders to have positive control over their men, and you get more training out of it. "They are all very disciplined and catch on really quick. When you're that focused on the mission it makes everything run smoother."

Along with its operational importance, participating in a bilateral training exercise holds personal significance for some Soldiers. "I think it's very important to have combined events like this," Holcomb said. "Just working with the Indian army itself is a great experience. To actually interact with someone from a different culture is something that you can't simulate."
US - JBER Soldiers Say Goodbye to Indian Partners
Some Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson Army soldiers faced a bittersweet goodbye Sunday, as their visiting Indian partner troops headed home after a closing ceremony. . Military officials say the exercise called Yudh Abhyas, meaning war practices in Hindi, helps soldiers develop relationships, teamwork skills and good military tactics.

"Relationships matter regardless of what profession you are in," says Col. Morris Goins, 4/25th Airborne Brigade Combat Team Commander. "So when you have an opportunity to exchange ideas and ways of doing things, it's much easier than meeting someone on the battle field for the first time, and trying to work through those challenges in a challenging environment." .

The last couple weeks have been full of challenging environments for these soldiers. One of the highlights, JBER officials say, was the friendship jump, where members from both sides performed a combined parachute exercise. "It's been fantastic. The Indian Army is truly a professional organization," says 1st Squadron 40th Cavalry Commander Chris Cassibry. "We've done everything from work on the riffle ranges, to conduct an airborne operation, to a night helicopter assault on a site summit. It's been a really great exercise. We've picked up several procedures that we will adopt from them," says Goins.
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Set up Armed Forces Grievances Redressal Commission: Court

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The Supreme Court on Monday directed the Centre to constitute the Armed Forces Grievances Redressal Commission to look into the grievances of serving or former members of the armed forces (the Army, the Navy and the Air Force) or their widows or family members for pension or other issues and make suitable recommendations expeditiously to the Central government in this regard.
The Commission to be headed by the former Supreme Court, Judge Kuldip Singh, will also frame and recommend to the Central government a scheme for proper rehabilitation of discharged soldiers.”

The Bench appointed the retired Chief Justice of Allahabad High Court, S.S. Sodhi, as vice-chairman, and General V.P. Malik, retired Chief of Army Staff, and Lt. Gen Vijay Oberoi, retired Vice-Chief of Army Staff, as members. The Centre could, at its discretion, appoint a retired civil servant as another member.
“These grievances include the grievances relating to pay; allowances; one rank, one pension; other pension matters; suitable benefits to be granted to war veterans, war widows; promotion matters; rehabilitation of soldiers who are discharged at a young age, etc. Our courts of law are flooded with cases relating to members, both serving and retired, of the armed forces; e.g. cases relating to pension, promotion, etc
The Bench in its order said, “Indian armed forces are bravely defending the borders of the country, often standing on guard at a height of 20,000 feet and in minus 30 {+o}C temperature, day and night, so that the people of India can live, work and sleep in peace. However, there is widespread discontent among the serving and former members of the armed forces (by which we mean the Army, Navy and Air Force) and their widows and family members regarding their service conditions e.g. pay scales, allowances, anomalies regarding pensions, inadequate pension (particularly to those disabled while in service), widows benefits, promotion matters (including promotion policy and process) etc.. They have a feeling that the bureaucrats do not care for them and do not properly address their grievances. As a result, thousands of ex- armed forces personnel have returned their medals, and some have even burnt their artificial limbs.
Hope this leads to some good things in the long run.......
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Gen Niazi's car, 1971 war booty, goes missing

First his pistol & now his car. Soon people will wonder if he even surrendered.
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AdityaM wrote:Gen Niazi's car, 1971 war booty, goes missing

First his pistol & now his car. Soon people will wonder if we even surrendered.
I know your remark is rhetorical, but I am just itching to point out the last part. Whoever thinks that Niazi did not surrender would have to be the biggest arse in the known universe (not counting Sarah Palin and her belief that she could see Russia from her house that is surrounded by mountains). I mean their is a picture in the archives that shows Gen. Aurora menacingly staring at Niazi, who is signing the document of surrender while wearing a bling watch on on his left arm.

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Notice the Naval chap in the backdrop with his hat tilted over? :)
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Gurinder P wrote:
AdityaM wrote:Gen Niazi's car, 1971 war booty, goes missing

First his pistol & now his car. Soon people will wonder if we even surrendered.
I know your remark is rhetorical, but I am just itching to point out the last part. Whoever thinks that Niazi did not surrender would have to be the biggest arse in the known universe (not counting Sarah Palin and her belief that she could see Russia from her house that is surrounded by mountains). I mean their is a picture in the archives that shows Gen. Aurora menacingly staring at Niazi, who is signing the document of surrender while wearing a bling watch on on his left arm.

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Notice the Naval chap in the backdrop with his hat tilted over? :)
A lot of happy juice goes into that type of a look!!! :D
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ramana wrote:Thats RADM N. Krishnan
WHAT?! I thought he was a Vice Admiral. Did he demoted? and was it because he looks inebriated in the photo :D
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AdityaM wrote: A lot of happy juice goes into that type of a look!!! :D
You said it Bro. :mrgreen:
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the pistol that was stolen was apparently the Pak Navy FOC's and not Niazis. apparently Niazis pistol is on display in IMA Dehradun.
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AdityaM wrote:Gen Niazi's car, 1971 war booty, goes missing

First his pistol & now his car. Soon people will wonder if he even surrendered.
Niazi's Mercedes held by Army's East Command http://www.zeenews.com/news669010.html

New Delhi: A Mercedez Benz India got as 'war booty' from then East Pakistan army commander Lt Gen AAK Niazi following the liberation of Bangladesh in 1971 is very much with Indian Army's Kolkata-based Eastern Command and it has not gone missing.

The car, which had been brought to Fort William after the surrender by Pakistani troops in Dhaka, is held by the Eastern Command headquarters, Army officials said here on Thursday in the wake of media report that the Merc had gone missing and was feared to have been scrapped.

The Mercedes Benz was used as the staff car of Lt Gen AAK Niazi and he had driven it down to Dhaka airport with now retired Lt Gen JFR Jacob to receive then Indian Eastern Army Commander Lt Gen JS Aurora, before whom the historic surrender was signed on December 16, 1971.

After the vehicle was brought to Fort William, the car was being used till recently as the staff car of the Indian Army's Eastern Command chiefs.

"The car is very much held in the charge of the Eastern Command headquarters and the media report that it has gone missing and that it has been sold to a scrap dealer are false and baseless," the officials said.
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Our biography of Gen Sundarji (BR's that is), states that General K Sunderji attended Madras Christian College, only to leave halfway and join the army. Although this sounds quixotic (and has been parroted in wikis all over the net), do we have any proof of this fact? I seem to recall that he did graduate.

Also,

1. Madras Christian College lists him as an alumnus:

http://www.mcc.edu.in/mcc2010/index.php ... ing-alumni

2. The Independent, UK states that he graduated from MCC:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 69842.html

3. He reportedly earned an MA in International Studies from Allahabad University, which is not awarded through in service institutions, and he would have required a prior degree to be eligible to take said MA.

Perhaps some research is needed?
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Usually for IMA one has to have finsihed the first year of the three year college program.
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This is partially correct. One can take the CDS exam admiinistered by UPSC in 2nd year of a 3 yr course, but admittance to the service is subject to successful completion of the educational progeamme. Without this, admittance is withdrawn.
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Also Gen. KS was a WWII inductee. In those days they had accelerrated programs for education. I know of folks who completed Engineering in Guindy in two years. Maybe that is the case.
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Tribunal sets aside 25-yr-old court martial order

Kochi, November 19
Setting aside a 25-year-old Court Martial order of an Army officer, the Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) here has directed the Union Government and the Army Chief to pay the officer concerned within six months the arrears of his salary, allowances, and full pension due to him.

The tribunal has ordered the respondents -- the Union Government, Chief of Army Staff, Commandant COD and the General Officer Commanding UP area -- to treat as if the petitioner, Captain Tony George, was on actual duty till the date on which he would have superannuated.

The arrears of salary, allowances of salary and pension after adjusting the amounts should be paid to the petitioner within six months, the Kochi bench of the tribunal held while allowing a petition by Captain Tony George of Central Ordnance Depot (COD), Agra cantonment, challenging his Court Martial.

The division bench of the tribunal also set aside the court martial findings and punishment against the petitioner.

“The facts and circumstances clearly show that the court martial was held without any valid order or a report as provided under Army Rule 150 by the competent military authority,” the tribunal held.

The amounts due to the petitioner should be paid within six months, failing which each month arrears would carry 9 per cent interest annually from the date of which it fell due and the payment is made, the tribunal held. Captain Tony, who was posted as officer in charge of a section in COD, Agra, was dismissed from service after he was found guilty of offences of perjury under Sect 60 of the Army Act. He was examined as a witness in a theft case in the depot. Commissioned in the Army in 1973, Captain Tony George was serving as officer-in-charge in the COD when in 1984 he deposed as a witness in a GCM against Lt Col Balwant Singh, the depot administrative officer and some others. Action was ordered against the petitioner and three others for “making false statements”. — PTI
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20101120/nation.htm
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Raghavendra wrote: Gen Niazi's car, 1971 war booty, goes missing

First his pistol & now his car. Soon people will wonder if he even surrendered.

"The car is very much held in the charge of the Eastern Command headquarters and the media report that it has gone missing and that it has been sold to a scrap dealer are false and baseless," the officials said.

the pistol that was stolen was apparently the Pak Navy FOC's and not Niazis. apparently Niazis pistol is on display in IMA Dehradun.
All these news is to torment the Pak readers who scan the news. :lol:
None of these items will go anywhere but will become the target of the jihadis
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ramana wrote:Also Gen. KS was a WWII inductee. In those days they had accelerrated programs for education. I know of folks who completed Engineering in Guindy in two years. Maybe that is the case.
I think he is post WWII commission. He was commissioned in the latter half of the 1940s, while WWII of course ended in '45.
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Son gives autorickshaw driver a new identity
Till three years ago, Krishnant Gholap had only one identity: an autorickshaw driver’s son. Today his father's friend have already given him a new identity — that of an Army officer's father.

On November 29, Chandrakant Gholap and other family members will be at the NDA Passing out Parade to watch Krishnant march with pride — as he joins the Indian Military Academy, Dehradun, to get commissioned as an Army officer a year later.

"I have no words to put my feelings into words. It is like a dream come true. Actually I wanted to be an Army officer but the conditions at home and my father's untimely death when I was in Class X shattered my plans," says Chandrakant. "And that is the reason that I decided to support my son completely when he told me his dream to join the Armed Forces. Today, my son is fulfilling a dream I cherished for years."
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Not about the Indian Army but very relevant all the same.


http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... 911_change

The Army and post-9/11 change
Posted By Thomas E. Ricks Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 11:10 AM

The Army's chief thinker about the future dropped by the office yesterday to talk to CNASties about how his service is changing. It clearly is down with advances in information technology, which I would expect. "We're cranking out apps" for soldiers, reported Lt. Gen. Michael Vane. It is teaching soldiers differently, with, he said, less "sage on the stage" and more "guide on the side."

What the general had to say was almost all reassuring. The Army is thinking differently about leadership. It knows it needs to push down certain skills to lower levels. It also needs to develop leaders who can handle ambiguity, historically a weak point for American generals, according to a psychological survey I was looking at the other day.

My worry is that it is one thing to say it, but another to do it. Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics, and people who know what they are talking about talk personnel policy. It's been nearly 10 years since 9/11, and I really don't see any significant changes in how the Army thinks about raising the force, training it, or promoting it. Why does there seem to be no relationship between command performance in combat and subsequent posts? I will believe that the Army is really responding to its strategic and operational shortcomings in Iraq and Afghanistan when I see changes in personnel policy. For example, why do generals appear to have tenure these days, with removal occurring only in response to zipper problems or other moral embarrassments? How about rewarding success and punishing failure? You can talk about change all you want, but until you change the personnel policies that create the internal incentive systems, you probably won't be able to institute sustainable change.
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2 mountain divisions to counter China
With China's "assertive" behaviour showing no signs of abating, India is fast-tracking new troop formations for the North-East. Apart from the two new infantry divisions, this includes the interesting experiment of new Arunachal and Sikkim Scouts battalions.

Defence ministry officials said the two fresh infantry mountain divisions, with 1,260 officers and 35,011 soldiers, should be "fully-operational with specialised equipment" by next year. Similarly, the first battalion of Arunachal Scouts will be up and running by May 2011.

While the new 56 Division has its HQ in Zakama (Nagaland) under the Dimapur-based 3 Corps, the 71 Division at Missamari (Assam) falls in the operational command of the Tezpur-based 4 Corps. Both the new formations are primarily tasked with the defence of Arunachal Pradesh.
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"As of now, the government has approved one battalion of Arunachal Scouts. Sikkim Scouts is in the pipeline," said an officer. Patented on the Ladakh Scouts, which was elevated to a full-fledged infantry regiment after its sterling role in dislodging Pakistani intruders during the 1999 Kargil conflict, Arunachal Scouts are also based on the "sons of the soil" concept.

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Rajat pandit being his usual self has just picked out all info available off the web and attempted to pass it off as sensational new info. It was always known that the 2 new infantry divisions would be ready by 2010-11 but where they got their ultra light howitzers from is something only Mr. Pandit knows.

Arunachal Scouts and Sikkim scouts are also old news.
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Interview with Brigadier Kuldip Singh Chandpuri , a True Braveheart of the nation and famous for leading Indian troops in Battle of Longewala.

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Gaurav Negi, in his quest to meet the brave men who put their lives on the line to defend India, tracked down Brigadier Kuldip Singh Chandpuri. Chandpuri is the real-life inspiration for Sunny Deol's character in the acclaimed film Border. The second in an ongoing series

The film Border was based on the real battle that was fought in Laungewala on the night of December 4-5, 1971, by 124 soldiers of the 'A' Company of the Indian Army's 23 Punjab Regiment.

The regiment was commanded by Major Kuldip Singh Chandpuri against the Pakistani assaulting formation, which comprised two infantry battalions, a regiment and a squadron of armour with 59 tanks. Actor Sunny Deol had played Major Chandpuri in the film.

Portraits of Valour by S S Gandhi once again proved to be of immense help. The book contains information on all gallantry awards given out before and after independence, with details of the brave individuals who have been honoured with the prestigious awards post independence. According to the book, Chandpuri, a winner of the Maha Vir Chakra, retired as a brigadier and is currently settled in Chandigarh.

I was able to get his address and contact number, and when I called him up a female voice on the other side confirmed that it was the residence of the hero of Laungewala.

I then spoke to Brigadier Chandpuri. I have to admit that I could not hold back my tears. This was the first time that I was speaking to a 'God in Uniform'. I just could not say anything worthwhile to him except "Thank You for what you did for us" and "I would like to meet you some time".

Brigadier Chandpuri replied, "Kabhi bhi aaiye beta (Come home anytime, son)".

We were scheduled to drive from Hyderabad to Kargil via Leh in August, and we had planned to visit Brigadier Chandpuri on our way back from the Drass war memorial in Kargil. Unfortunately, we could not reach Leh and Kargil. A day before we were supposed to leave, Leh was hit by a massive cloudburst, which caused large-scale destruction in the area.

On August 20, 2010, I drove from Delhi to Chandigarh to meet Brigadier Chandpuri.

Though he no longer wears his olive green uniform, Brigadier Chandpuri has not hung up his boots, literally. He told me, "Every morning I put on my boots and take them off only at night".

This septuagenarian is still as energetic as a young officer. He is a councilor in the municipal corporation of Chandigarh and had served as an advisor to the recently held Commonwealth Games in Delhi. The day I met him, he had been invited as a speaker in a seminar at Chandigarh.

I asked him what he felt when he faced his enemies in 1971. "Josh (vigour)," he said. "No army in the world can win without josh."

In the film Border, Sunny Deol, playing Brigadier Chandpuri, walks up to the last pillar on the India-Pakistan border, in spite of everyone warning him against the move as Pakistani snipers could shoot him. When I asked if Brigadier Chandpuri had actually done that, he said that he done that many times. "The enemy should know that I am there and not afraid of him. What does it mean to dominate? I cannot dominate the enemy by just sitting inside a bunker near him."

"We have the third biggest army in the world, bravest of brave soldiers and still our neighbours have the guts to trouble us," because, says Brigadier Chandpuri, "We do not retaliate."

He narrated an incident to emphasise his point. When he was a colonel, he was posted in Kashmir and only the Line of Control separated him from the enemy. The enemy once fired at his post and killed two of his men. Colonel Chandpuri retaliated and his men killed 14 personnel on the other side. After that day, Colonel Chandpuri continued to be deployed there for two years, but nobody dared to fire at him.I would remember the few hours that I spent with him all my life.

Not being able to visit the Drass war memorial was a big disappointment. But I could meet my 'God in Uniform', the Hero of Laungewala, Brigadier Kuldip Singh Chandpuri, Maha Vir Chakra, Vishisht Seva (Distinguished Service) Medal.

An excerpt from Portraits of Valour.

Major K S Chandpuri was commanding a company of a battalion of Punjab Regiment occupying a defended locality in Laungnewala in the Rajasthan Sector. On December 5, 1971, in the early hours of the morning, the enemy launched a massive attack on his locality with infantry and tanks. Major Chandpuri exhibited dynamic leadership in holding his command intact and steadfast.

Showing exceptional courage and determination, he inspired his men; moving from bunker to bunker, encouraging them in beating back the enemy till reinforcements arrived. In his heroic defence, he inflicted heavy casualties on the enemy and forced them to retreat leaving behind twelve tanks. In this action, Major Chandpuri displayed conspicuous gallantry and leadership
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India, China Battle for One-Upmanship at Nathu La
Maruti Gypsys replaced with SUVs, can't afford to be looked down upon

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View from Top : Hum Hi Jitenge (Only we will win) written by the Indian Army.
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UN troops bring a taste of India to a lawless DR Congo
I raised this subject with the soldiers on my patrol. It seemed they had been handed a mission in which failures were clear but success was harder to define.

There was no target destination to conquer nor invaders to expel.

So what, I asked them, would count as victory?

As if on cue, a group of children from a nearby village came past all laughing and giving the Indians a thumbs-up sign.

"A little happiness on the face of a single villager," the platoon commander said, "that's a kind of victory."

And he did not offer anything more substantial than that.

It was odd to find this attitude, almost like Gandhi in its simplicity, from a man carrying an automatic weapon.

But, the children were laughing. And in the midst of this war zone, I, too, felt a little safer to have the blue-helmeted soldiers alongside me.
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UK invites Indian army for 2-month-long jt military exercise
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Britain has invited the Indian army for the first of its kind joint military exercise here for two months next year, a media report said today. The exercise would involve a company of Indian soldiers training alongside British troops for two months next summer, 'The Times' daily said.
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^^^before you know it, India will have observer status at NATO!
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Don't be surprised :D - remember NATO's raison d'etre was enhanced by its "out of area operations" mandate in recent years. There is no other major military which can plug into NATO as easily as the Indian.
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Wish Indian President or PM speak like this during award of a PVC?



The gallant story of Salvatore Giunta, America's newest Medal of Honor
recipient http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washing ... honor.html
November 16, 2010 | 3:29 pm
[image: Army Staff Sgt Salvatore A. Giunta with wife Jennifer talks to
reporters after receiving the Medal of Honor at the White House from
President Obama
11-16-10]<
*President Obama's remarks awarding the Medal of Honor to Staff Sgt.
Salvatore A. Giunta and the official citation, as provided by the White House
*
*THE PRESIDENT*: Good afternoon, everybody. Please be seated. On behalf of Michelle and myself, welcome to the White House. Thank you, Chaplain Carver, for that beautiful invocation.

Of all the privileges that come with serving as President of the United States, I have none greater than serving as Commander-in-Chief of the finest
military that the world has ever known. And of all the military decorations that a President and a nation can bestow, there is none higher than the
Medal of Honor.

Today is particularly special. Since the end of the Vietnam War, the Medal of Honor has been awarded nine times for conspicuous gallantry in an ongoing
or recent conflict. Sadly, our.......nation has been unable to present this decoration to the recipients
themselves, because each gave his life -- his last full measure of devotion
-- for our country. Indeed, as President, I have presented the Medal of Honor three times -- and each time to the families of a fallen hero.

Today, therefore, marks the first time in nearly 40 years that the recipient of the Medal of Honor for an ongoing conflict has been able to come to the
White House and accept this recognition in person. It is my privilege to present our nation’s highest military decoration, the Medal of Honor, to a
soldier as humble as he is heroic: Staff Sergeant Salvatore A. Giunta.

Now, I’m going to go off-script here for a second and just say I really like this guy. (Laughter and applause.) I think anybody -- we all just get a
sense of people and who they are, and when you meet Sal and you meet his family, you are just absolutely convinced that this is what America is all
about. And it just makes you proud. And so this is a joyous occasion for me -- something that I have been looking forward to.

The Medal of Honor reflects the gratitude of an entire nation. So we are also joined here today by several members of Congress, including both
senators and several representatives from Staff Sergeant Giunta’s home state of Iowa. We are also joined by leaders from across my administration and
the Department of Defense, including the Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates; Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen. Where’s Mike?
There he is, right there. Army Secretary John McHugh; and Chief of Staff of the Army, General George Casey.

We are especially honored to be joined by Staff Sergeant Giunta’s fellow soldiers, his teammates and brothers from Battle Company, 2d of the 503d of
the 173d Airborne Brigade; and several members of that rarest of fraternities that now welcomes him into its ranks -- the Medal of Honor Society. Please give them a big round of applause. (Applause.)

We also welcome the friends and family who made Staff Sergeant Giunta into the man that he is, including his lovely wife, Jenny; and his parents,
Steven and Rosemary; as well as his siblings, who are here. It was his mother, after all, who apparently taught him as a young boy in small-town
Iowa how to remove the screen from his bedroom window in case of fire.
(Laughter.) What she didn’t know was that by teaching Sal how to jump from
his bedroom and sneaking off in the dead of night, she was unleashing a
future paratrooper -- (laughter) -- who would one day fight in the rugged
mountains of Afghanistan 7,000 miles away.

During the first of his two tours of duty in Afghanistan, Staff Sergeant
Giunta was forced early on to come to terms with the loss of comrades and
friends. His team leader at the time gave him a piece of advice: “You just try -- you just got to try to do everything you can when it’s your time to do it.” You’ve just got to try to do everything you can when it’s your time to do it.

Salvatore Giunta’s time came on October 25, 2007. He was a Specialist then, just 22 years old.

Sal and his platoon were several days into a mission in the Korengal Valley -- the most.... [image: Army Staff Sgt Salvatore A. Giunta receives the Medal of Honor 11-16-10]<http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00 ... 970c-popup>
....dangerous valley in northeast Afghanistan. The moon was full. The light it cast was enough to travel by without using their night-vision goggles.
With heavy gear on their backs, and air support overhead, they made their way single file down a rocky ridge crest, along terrain so steep that
sliding was sometimes easier than walking.

They hadn’t traveled a quarter mile before the silence was shattered. It was an ambush, so close that the cracks of the guns and the whizz of the
bullets were simultaneous. Tracer fire hammered the ridge at hundreds of rounds per minute -- “more,” Sal said later, “than the stars in the sky.”

The Apache gunships above saw it all, but couldn’t engage with the enemy so close to our soldiers. The next platoon heard the shooting, but were too
far away to join the fight in time.

And the two lead men were hit by enemy fire and knocked down instantly. When the third was struck in the helmet and fell to the ground, Sal charged
headlong into the wall of bullets to pull him to safety behind what little cover there was. As he did, Sal was hit twice -- one round slamming into
his body armor, the other shattering a weapon slung across his back.

They were pinned down, and two wounded Americans still lay up ahead. So Sal and his comrades regrouped and counterattacked. They threw grenades, using the explosions as cover to run forward, shooting at the muzzle flashes still
erupting from the trees. Then they did it again. And again. Throwing grenades, charging ahead. Finally, they reached one of their men. He’d been shot twice in the leg, but he had kept returning fire until his gun
jammed.

As another soldier tended to his wounds, Sal sprinted ahead, at every step meeting relentless enemy fire with his own. He crested a hill alone, with
no cover but the dust kicked up by the storm of bullets still biting into the ground. There, he saw a chilling sight: the silhouettes of two insurgents carrying the other wounded American away -- who happened to be one of Sal’s best friends. Sal never broke stride. He leapt forward. He took aim. He killed one of the insurgents and wounded the other, who ran off.

Sal found his friend alive, but badly wounded. Sal had saved him from the enemy -- now he had to try to save his life. Even as bullets impacted all
around him, Sal grabbed his friend by the vest and dragged him to cover.
For nearly half an hour, Sal worked to stop the bleeding and help his friend breathe until the MEDEVAC arrived to lift the wounded from the ridge.
American gunships worked to clear the enemy from the hills. And with the battle over, First Platoon picked up their gear and resumed their march
through the valley. They continued their mission.

It had been as intense and violent a firefight as any soldier will experience. By the time it was finished, every member of First Platoon had shrapnel or a bullet hole in their gear. Five were wounded. And two gave their lives: Sal’s friend, Sergeant Joshua C. Brennan, and the platoon medic, Specialist Hugo V. Mendoza.

Now, the parents of Joshua and Hugo are here today. And I know that there are no words that, even three years later, can ease the ache in your hearts or repay the debt that America owes to you. But on behalf of a grateful nation, let me express profound thanks to your sons’ service and their
sacrifice. And could the parents of Joshua and Hugo please stand briefly?
(Applause.)

Now, I already mentioned I like this guy, Sal. And as I found out myself when I first spoke with him on the phone and when we met in the Oval Office
today, he is a low-key guy, a humble guy, and he doesn’t seek the limelight. And he’ll tell you that he didn’t do anything special; that he was just doing his job; that any of his brothers in the unit would do the
same thing. In fact, he just lived up to what his team leader instructed him to do years before: “You do everything you can.”

Staff Sergeant Giunta, repeatedly and without hesitation, you charged forward through extreme enemy fire, embodying the warrior ethos that says, “I will never leave a fallen comrade.” Your actions disrupted a devastating ambush before it could claim more lives. Your courage prevented the capture
of an American soldier and brought that soldier back to his family. You may believe that you don’t deserve this honor, but it was your fellow soldiers
who recommended you for it. In fact, your commander specifically said in his recommendation that you lived up to the standards of the most decorated American soldier of World War II, Audie Murphy, who famously repelled an overwhelming enemy attack by himself for one simple reason: “They were killing my friends.”

That’s why Salvatore Giunta risked his life for his fellow soldiers -- because they would risk their lives for him. That’s what fueled his bravery -- not just the urgent impulse to have their backs, but the absolute confidence that they had his. One of them, Sal has said -- of these young men that he was with, he said, “They are just as much of me as I am.” They
are just as much of me as I am.
So I would ask Sal’s team, all of Battle Company who were with him that day, to please stand and be recognized as well. (Applause.) Gentlemen, thank
you for your service. We’re all in your debt. And I’m proud to be your Commander-in-Chief.

These are the soldiers of our Armed Forces. Highly trained. Battle-hardened. Each with specialized roles and responsibilities, but all with one thing in common -- they volunteered. In an era when it’s never been more tempting to chase personal ambition or narrow self-interest, they
chose the opposite. They felt a tug; they answered a call; they said, “I’ll go.” And for the better part of a decade, they have endured tour after tour
in distant and difficult places; they have protected us from danger; they have given others the opportunity to earn a better and more secure life.

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are the courageous men and women serving in Afghanistan even as we speak. They keep clear focus on their mission: to deny safe haven for
terrorists who would attack our country, to break the back of the Taliban insurgency, to build the Afghans’ capacity to defend themselves.
They possess the steely resolve to see their mission through. They are made of the same strong stuff as the troops in this room, and I am absolutely
confident that they will continue to succeed in the missions that we give them, in Afghanistan and beyond.

After all, our brave servicemen and women and their families have done everything they’ve been asked to do. They have been everything that we have
asked them to be. “If I am a hero,” Sal has said, “then every man who stands around me, every woman in the military, every person who defends this country is.” And he’s right.
This medal today is a testament to his uncommon valor, but also to the parents and the community that raised him; the military that trained him;
and all the men and women who served by his side.

All of them deserve our enduring thanks and gratitude. They represent a small fraction of the American population, but they and the families who
await their safe return carry far more than their fair share of our burden.
They fight halfway around the globe, but they do it in hopes that our children and our grandchildren won’t have to.

They are the very best part of us. They are our friends, our family, our neighbors, our classmates, our coworkers. They are why our banner still
waves, our founding principles still shine, and our country -- the United States of America -- still stands as a force for good all over the world.
So, please join me in welcoming Staff Sergeant Salvatore A. Giunta for the reading of the citation.


*MILITARY AIDE*: The President of the United States of America, authorized by act of Congress, March 3, 1863, has awarded, in the name of
Congress, the Medal of Honor to then Specialist Salvatore A. Giunta, United States Army.

Specialist Salvatore A. Giunta distinguished himself conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity, at the risk of his life, above and beyond the call of duty, in action, with an armed enemy in the Korengal Valley,
Afghanistan, on October 25, 2007. While conducting a patrol as team leader, with Company B, 2d Battalion Airborne, 503d Infantry Regiment, Specialist Giunta and his team were navigating through harsh terrain when they were ambushed by a well-armed and well-coordinated insurgent force.

While under heavy enemy fire, Specialist Giunta immediately sprinted towards cover and engaged the enemy. Seeing that his squad leader had fallen, and believing that he had been injured, Specialist Giunta exposed himself to withering enemy fire and raced towards his squad leader, helped him to cover
and administered medical aid.

While administering first aid, enemy fire struck Special Giunta’s body armor and his secondary weapon. Without regard to the ongoing fire, Specialist Giunta engaged the enemy before prepping and throwing grenades, using the
explosions for cover in order to conceal his position.

Attempting to reach additional wounded fellow soldiers who were separated from the squad, Specialist Giunta and his team encountered a barrage of enemy fire that forced them to the ground. The team continued forward, and
upon reaching the wounded soldiers, Specialist Giunta realized that another soldier was still separated from the element. Specialist Giunta then
advanced forward on his own initiative.
As he crested the top of a hill, he observed two insurgents carrying away an American soldier. He immediately engaged the enemy, killing one and
wounding the other. Upon reaching the wounded soldier, he began to provide medical aid, as his squad caught up and provided security.

Specialist Giunta’s unwavering courage, selflessness and decisive leadership while under extreme enemy fire were integral to his platoon’s ability to
defeat an enemy ambush and recover a fellow American soldier from the enemy.

Specialist Salvatore A. Giunta’s extraordinary heroism and selflessness above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions
of military service and reflect great credit upon himself, Company B, 2d Battalion Airborne, 503d Infantry Regiment and the United States Army. [The
medal is awarded.] (Applause



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