Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2010

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Just to put things in perspective, by wilfully, deliberately bringing in Samjotha incident and implicating Hindus (for whatever role they played) and drawing an equivalence with piggLeTs, MMS has done colossal damage to India's moral high ground in holding TSP for the state sponsorship of terror. I wonder if the Indian public will awaken to MMS's betrayal.

And as an approving hypocritical US nods its head in approvale at a job well done by their man in letting TSP off the hook, think about it, will US ever, ever, even hint or think of drawing an equivalnece between tea party and Al Queda. Any equivalence between Glen Beck and Bin Ladin. Heck, even the US president, Obama shows profuse respect for the Nazi propaganda dished out by Fox.
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SS,

I'd like your informed speculation here. We all know that UN itself implicated Paki pigLeTs for the Samjotha attack. Yet India managed to get a confession from Aseemanand. This totaly muddies the waters. Where is the truth? I know it doesn't matter now, but it would good to know how MMS managed to pull off this betrayal of his country by letting 26/11 pass off into memory.
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The TFTA US diplomat Raymond Davis blunted the H&D of the TFTA Pakis. I mean, he kncked of two of their ISI blokes. Pakis must me seeting with impotent anger, and to do an equal equal, like us SDREs seethe with impotent anger when ISI pulls off an attack against India, thumbs its nose, and everybody in the world including MMS himself does an equal equal.
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Meanwhile, Duh!Yawn! is reporting: US warns Pakistan on talks: diplomats
Screws are being tightened. Something black in the yentils, saar! There's more than what meets the Eye S.I.
The United States has stepped up pressure on Pakistan to free an American accused of murder, warning that high-level dialogue is at risk with the war partner, diplomats said Tuesday.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declined to meet Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi at a weekend conference in Munich to show displeasure over the case, according to a diplomat familiar with the issue.
Clinton still met in Munich with General Ashfaq Kayani, the head of Pakistan’s powerful army
Ouch! This must hurt the H&D of the TFTA Qureshi. Remember that Hillary/Qureshi cozy head to head photo?
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Sending mixed signals. Its Kiyani who should be shunned to show displeasure. Qureshi is puppet controlled by the TSPA. Shunning him does nothing.

So its a case of playing to US gallery. They(US) want to pretend they are doing something about Davis.
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ramana wrote:Sending mixed signals. Its Kiyani who should be shunned to show displeasure. Qureshi is puppet controlled by the TSPA. Shunning him does nothing.

So its a case of playing to US gallery. They(US) want to pretend they are doing something about Davis.
Maybe so. It could also be a message to the duspercenti government to push with Davis' release or else Kiyani is the preferred GoTo guy.
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SSridhar wrote:It is this bravado that killed the two Pakistanis
Further complicating the situation, a Pakistani intelligence official said that the two men Davis killed were not, as he has said, armed robbers intent on stealing money, his telephone and perhaps his car, but intelligence agents assigned to tail him. This official said the two intended to frighten Davis because he crossed a "red line" that the official did not further define.
I had guessed it immediately after the incident, as have many BRFites. check out my post on Jan 27th http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1019681

I was hoping for at least a month's worth of drama, and I hope the pakis won't disappoint me. If Davis is Qadrified, all hell will break loose. I don't think the pakis will go to that extent. But with their newspapers making this a huge H&D issue, pakis won't give in without a fight
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He will simply "escape" :-).
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What if one of those assigned to help him escape turns out to be a Qadri
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Not long ago a journalist friend of mine working undercover in Quetta on a story about the Taliban presence was tailed by a pair of ISI men. When he approached them he got a phonecall telling him to get out of the town if he didn't want to end up like Daniel Pearl.

He took their advice

When he got to Karachi he had another pair on him, but these were from the FIA to make sure nothing happened to him.

Pakistan's double game sets elements of its own state and society against each other, and the result can be very confusing and alarming on the ground.

Could Davis really be sure that these aggressive tails were there to 'frighten him' as is claimed or to abduct or kill him as has happened so many times to foreigners in Pakistan?

If this was routine ISI intimidation gone wrong, they are going to have to recalibrate, but this will be sorted out.

If this was an attempted hit this will continue to escalate.
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MMS has done colossal damage to India's moral high ground
Relax. India never had any moral high ground in Pakistani eyes. India is the most evil of all nations and Hindus the lowliest of low. You're providing fodder to Pakistani comedians by claiming otherwise.
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Mahendra wrote:What if one of those assigned to help him escape turns out to be a Qadri
I doubt it. Too much is at stake. It would be interesting as to how this US-TSP circus unfolds. For sure, he will be released, and it may be something we on BR have not yet thought of. Remember, when it comes to dealing with TSP, US or India, stranger things happen. Who would have thought just a few months ago that TSP will escape from 26/11 through the samjotha gift that MMS concocted.
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Jaspreet, Pakis are not the only party of interest here.
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Nandu,
Then who is ?(X 3 - because you posted the same message thrice!)
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ramana-saar, cartoon - I have a good one in mind, but I dont think it is *yet* time to caricature the budding romance between the beard and the chor. Let it bloom further, before it is noticed by anyone who matters. Right now they are at first base, let it get to third base, before we insert a cartoon side-ways via their base.

Regarding Senor Raimundo, he is certainly going to go back to his family in a non-halal fashion. They are just haggling about the price of his ass. When it comes to dealing with amirkhans, the paki H&D loss extends to a few articles and a fiery fart at some rally. They dont give a shyte about handing over their own jihadi kind to the khans for a few coins, let alone khan's own playa. Plus pakis are safe from retaliation in khanland. Despite much :(( in this forum, khan's counter-intel chaps appear Mary Poppins, compared to IB's hard men, when it comes to retaliating paki's stupid spy games.

Senor Raimundo's life would be considered only a little less valuable than the two sheikhs and thus is as safe as anyone can be in Pakiland. But unlike the sheikhs, he seems keen to go home. Hence the frantic auctioneering and its public manifestations of "court rulings" etc.
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Why is Salman Taseer's daughter taking India's side on Kashmir so publicly?
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Ramana, it's all in a lighter vein. I know he isn't trying to be mean.
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Yeah, I don't have time for that. :D
Sorry about the triple post.

I would have thought what I said is self evident. The folks that we need a moral high ground with are the same folks that we keep telling India is not == with TSP.
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new lodges for parliamentarians:

The project to construct new blocks spanning over four acres of land in the Parliament Lodges Directorate was inaugurated by Prime Minster Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani. It was approved by Executive Committee of National Economic Council on January 21, 2010. It will be completed at an estimated cost of Rs2,908 million in three years.
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India, Pak agree to talk again
Ready for every outstanding issue, Pak did raise Samjhauta blasts: Rao

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/India ... ain/747824
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India, Pakistan ready to go the extra mile

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-Pak ... 60136.aspx
A compromise on the process of addressing the full India-Pakistan agenda and a principle of reciprocity on the 26/11 inquiry seem set to re-start the peace process. New Delhi also believes the all-powerful Pakistan army is now on board when it comes to the bilateral dialogue. The two sides have effectively agreed to middle paths on a number of the issues that had sunk the last few attempts to relaunch the dialogue.

Thus, the two have agreed to sequentially discuss all issues that were part of what used to be the composite dialogue process, including Kashmir, Siachen and terrorism, before Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi visits for talks this year.

This bridges the gap { :!: } between Pakistan's demand that all issues be discussed with time tables attached and India's incremental, step-by-step stance.

Regarding forward movement on 26/11, the two have agreed to work under the "law of comity" - effectively, legal reciprocity.

India has proposed sending a panel to obtain voice samples of those believed to have directed the attack. Pakistan had earlier asked to send a judicial commission to record the statements of Indian officials who recorded the surviving 26/11 terrorist, Ajmal Kasab. Both sides have asked for further clarifications of these demands.

India is sequencing the dialogue process to try and achieve progress on all issues. These will include terrorism and security, India's primary concerns. They will also include water - a key Pakistani concern - trade and cross-border confidence-building measures.

They will mostly be held at secretary-level.

"For the next few months, things aren't going to remain dormant. There will be a lot of activity, a lot of interaction that had in a sense been put in abeyance for many months now. The intention from both sides is to resume the process," foreign secretary Nirupama Rao said.
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CRamS wrote:SS,

I'd like your informed speculation here. We all know that UN itself implicated Paki pigLeTs for the Samjotha attack. Yet India managed to get a confession from Aseemanand. This totaly muddies the waters. Where is the truth? I know it doesn't matter now, but it would good to know how MMS managed to pull off this betrayal of his country by letting 26/11 pass off into memory.
The UN has by and large been supportive of Pakistan despite the truth about Pakistan. Using the UN's words to talk about an internal criminal case in India is a self goal of the first order. Indian agencies will do what they do with or without hints from the USA or Pakistan or the UN. Just because a Swami has been named and you are feeling embarrassed about that does not mean that the UN should be given credibility in a desperate act of straw clutching. The Swami's case needs to be sorted out in India by Indians. Being so breast beatingly sensitive about on going investigations of a criminal case in India and clutching at UN sponsored straws is completely unnecessary.

There may also be some ignorance on you part of how the system of justice works in India. People will make confessions and accusations and then retract them saying that the statement was made under duress. This is so well known in India that a "confession" is only worth so much.
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Mystery Over Detained American Angers Pakistan

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Christina Fair holds a mirror up to Pakis. This will surely hurt the Paki H & D...


Choosing sovereignty over servitude —C. Christine Fair
Pakistanis are outraged by US Ambassador Munter’s reported assertion that the US government is entitled to influence Pakistan’s internal affairs in exchange for US assistance. The US is Pakistan’s largest source of economic support either directly or through international financial institutions. These funds enable the government of Pakistan — if not the state — to survive.

Pakistanis naturally resent this situation because they have no leverage in Pakistan’s relationship with Washington and thus are beholden to Washington’s diktat. They are right: this funding renders Pakistan answerable to the US taxpayer (e.g. me) rather than Pakistanis (e.g. you).

But this anger towards Washington is misplaced. Pakistanis should ask why it is that their state — including its massive, nuclear-armed military — requires outside assistance on the scale it does when Pakistan in fact has considerable national wealth.

Pakistan is not a Somalia. Why is that neighbouring India can pay its way, having transformed itself from an aid-receiving to an aid-granting state, while Pakistan must grovel at the table of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and other multilateral and bilateral donors? :rotfl: Indeed it is India’s financial success that has drawn global capitals to its doorstep seeking to sell India’s state and central governments weapon systems, surveillance technology, power plants, and other needed infrastructure and commodities needed and demanded by the growing country and its millions. It is India’s growing economic heft that gives it leverage in the strategic partnerships it forges — including those with the US and Israel.

There is no reason why Pakistan cannot step out of the shadow of its servitude :rotfl: and into the light of sovereignty. After all, Pakistanis are hardworking and proud patriots.

What does it mean for a state to be sovereign? Apart from exercising monopoly of force and writ of law more or less homogenously over the state territory, one of the most important elements of state sovereignty is the ability to pay its own bills. While Pakistan is making strides in the former, it has made no progress in the latter.

To free Pakistan of international meddling, Pakistan’s political leaders need only to subject themselves and their patronage networks to an agricultural and industrial tax, a move which Pakistan’s leadership has steadfastly avoided throughout the state’s entire history. Of course, it must improve income tax compliance too.

Given this refusal to expand its tax net, the state relies upon an admixture of international assistance and punitive and regressive domestic sales and income taxes to pay its bills. Sales taxes are especially regressive because they affect the poor far more than the wealthy. Government servants — whose income tax is deducted from their wages — and other honest income tax payers pay their way while the wealthy agriculturalists and business elite abscond. Bangladesh has a better tax compliance record than Pakistan.

The sad truth is that Pakistan’s elites –many of whom sit and have sat and will sit in parliament—have chosen to subjugate their country for their own personal accumulation and preservation of wealth. This should be the focus of public outrage: not Washington’s expectation that its massive investment in Pakistan yield some return for the interests of its taxpayers.

Some readers of this missive may counter that China and Saudi Arabia help Pakistan without such expectations. These cherished myths are rubbish.

What has China done for Pakistan? It did not help Pakistan in any of its wars with India in 1965, 1971 or the Kargil crisis of 1999, when it took the same line as the US and even India. It did little to help Pakistan in the 2001-2002 crisis with India and it even voted in the UN Security Council to declare Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) a terrorist organisation in 2009 in the wake of the Mumbai terror outrage.

The roads and ports and other infrastructure that the Chinese are building in Pakistan principally benefit China. Pakistanis are an afterthought. The Chinese obtain contracts on favourable and profitable investment terms, use their own employees, and contribute little to the local economy ultimately to build projects that facilitate the movement and sales of cheap (but also dangerous and poorly crafted) Chinese goods and products into and through Pakistan.


It is a sad fact that China uses Pakistan for its foreign policy aims as well. It provides Pakistan nuclear assistance and large amounts of military assistance to purchase subpar military platforms in hopes of sustaining Pakistan’s anti-status quo policy towards India. By encouraging Pakistani adventurism towards India, Beijing hopes that India’s massive defence modernisation and status of forces remain focused upon Pakistan — not China. China wants to sustain the animosity between India and Pakistan but it certainly does not want an actual conflict to ensue as it would then be forced to show its hand again — by not supporting Pakistan in such a conflict.

What about Saudi Arabia? The increasingly broke US citizen provided more assistance to Pakistan’s flood victims than Pakistan’s Islamic, oil tycoon brethren in Saudi Arabia. While the US government has not figured out how to give aid in a way that minimises corruption and maximises benefit, Pakistanis should note that at least the US tries to do so in contrast to Saudi Arabia, which simply abdicates.

Saudi Arabia does fund madrassas, albeit of a highly sectarian variety. Yet, Pakistan does not need more madrassas. In fact, the educational market shows that Pakistani interest in madrassa education is stagnant while interest in private schooling is expanding. Unfortunately, those madrassas and Islamic institutions that Saudi Arabia does support have contributed to a bloody sectarian divide in Pakistan that has killed far more innocent Pakistanis than the inaccurately reviled US drone programme a thousand times over.

In short, Saudi Arabia too uses Pakistan to isolate Shia Iran and to promote the dominance of Wahabiism over other Sunni maslaks (sub-sects) and over all Shia maslaks. Pakistan has paid a bloody price for the Saudis’ assistance.

There is no such thing as “friends” in international relations. Any country will help Pakistan because it expects that doing so will advance its interests, not necessarily those of Pakistan and its citizenry. Pakistan will never be free of the “nok” of donors until it raises its own revenue from its own domestic resources.

There is another important reason why all Pakistanis should pay local and federal taxes according to their means: it is the bond that ties the governed to the government. When the state extracts taxes from its citizenry, the citizens demand services in return. When the government fails to perform at either local or federal levels, the citizens have the opportunity to vote the miscreants out of office. The incoming elected officials learn, over the course of several electoral cycles, to be responsive to the voters, not dismissive of the same. Within constitutional democracies, payment of taxes is the most important mechanism by which citizens exert control over their government.

If Pakistanis genuinely want to toss off the yoke of financial servitude and gain a genuine stake in their government, they should stop howling at the US government. Instead, the street power mobilised to support a flawed law and a murderer should be redirected to policy issues that are critical to the state’s survival. And rest assured, financial sovereignty is one such issue.

The writer is an assistant professor at Georgetown University, Peace and Security Studies Programme. She can be reached by Christinefair.net

How I wish Madam Mazari was available to give a suitable reply to this uppity Amrikhan Lady...
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SSridhar wrote:US piles up pressure on Pakistan - Anita Joshua in The Hindu
The U.S. State Department is learnt to have snapped all communication with Pakistan's embassy in Washington and this was followed up with a telephone call from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to President Asif Ali Zardari over the weekend asking Islamabad to comply with its obligations under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. The same message was conveyed to Mr. Zardari by U.S. Ambassador in Pakistan Cameron Munter when he called on the President here on Monday.
The suspension of talks with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by the US over the detention of “Diplomat“ “Raymond Davis“ has been denied. Presumably the quantum of the next round of the American payment of Jiziya to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that will in turn be used to finance malign Pakistani action against India, is under active discussion :x :

US denies suspending dialogue with Pakistan
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Powerful twin explosions rocked People’s Colony in Gujranwala, injuring one person, early Wednesday morning. The first blast occurred at the police station in People’s Colony and the second blast hit the Civil Line Special Branch, less than half kilometer apart. According to sources, there is a large quantity of explosives at the People’s Colony police station.

From Yawn.
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Repeat after me: Pakistan is not Egypt

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... _not_egypt
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Bad romance: ranking Obama's most difficult relationships

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2. Pakistan
Somehow the news that during the first two years of this administration the Pakistanis have perhaps doubled their nuclear arsenal as reported by both the New York Times and the Washington Post did not create the uproar that a rational reading of it should provoke. Not only does it make a dangerous situation much worse with unstable Pakistan now possibly vying with France to be the number 5 nuclear power in the world, but sooner or later someone is going to note that such programs cost money and that during the period the U.S. has been pumping billions into Pakistani government coffers. All it will take is for a nuke to go missing or the Pakistani government to undergo a change and become a less reliable ally and it will be hard to distinguish between the "who lost Pakistan?" and the "who armed Pakistan?" shouts and accusations.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -case.html
US breaks off high-level contact with Pakistan over shooting case
The US has broken off high-level contacts with Pakistan as it increases pressure on Islamabad to free an American official who shot dead two Pakistanis, according to sources from both countries.US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has already cancelled one meeting and the diplomatic row threatens talks due later this month on the war in Afghanistan. The freeze comes as a damning US watchdog report reveals that aid money lavished on Pakistan – almost $4bn since 2009 – as part of a strategy to foster closer ties has failed to show any change. The case of Raymond Davis has convulsed Pakistan, opening a fresh seam of anti-American anger and unleashing a wave of speculation about what an American diplomat was doing driving alone in a Honda Civic through the streets of Lahore with a Glock handgun. Pakistan has so far refused to release Davis despite US insistence that he is entitled to diplomatic immunity. The US has warned Pakistan that it would consider cutting aid unless Davis is freed. Buck McKeon, chair of the House Armed Services Committee, said he mentioned to Pakistani leaders that Congress was working on the budget. Asked if aid could be at risk, Mr McKeon said: “It very well could be.” A senior Pakistani official said the government had to balance its international commitments with the risk of provoking a backlash if it was seen to bow to Washington's pressure. "We understand that diplomatic immunity is absolute. It's not that we don't get it," he said. "Pakistanis have been killed and there is a lot of emotion on the ground so all the Pakistani government is seeking is American understanding." He confirmed that ministerial-level talks had been frozen. Last week, Mrs Clinton cancelled a meeting with See Myboob Qureshi, Pakistan's foreign minister, at an international security conference in Munich. The two are due to meet again in Washington on February 24, along with their Afghan counterparts. The freeze is the latest setback in relations between two countries that have maintained an awkward alliance against al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters along the Pakistani border with Afghanistan.
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All these are false dilemmas. US had no such dilemma when it allowed PRC to nuclearize. They had no shame in revealing in books written post facto the details of when PRC allowed TSP to test their bombs in Lop Nor!
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On Why Haqqani Network's Pak Peace Deal Threatens US
The Haqqani network is planning to target the United States-led North Atlantic Treaty Organisation forces in Afghanistan from its new bases in the Kurram agency.

The network brokered a peace deal between the warring Sunni and Shia sects in the Kurram agency and as a result got new bases in the strategically important agency of Federally Administered Tribal Areas.

Their first success came in when a tribal jirga (council) supported by the Haqqani network succeeded in brokering a peace deal between warring tribes after three years of fighting. With this peace deal, the Haqqani network is rapidly shifting its centre of activities from North Waziristan to Kurram agency which is strategically important than any other tribal area of Pakistan.

The two sons of Jalaluddin Haqqani -- Khalil Haqqani and Ibrahim Haqqani -- participated in the meetings of tribesmen and successfully resolved the issue. Pakistani interior minister Rehman Malik also attended a news conference of the tribal elders to demonstrate the government's support for the peace accord. {So, not only does Pakistan refuse to attack the Haqqanis but also openly flirt with them}

he Haqqani network did not broker the agreement just for the wellbeing of the people but was attracted by the strategic position of the agency. Kurram is geographically most significant than all other agencies of Pakistan. It touches Khost province of Afghanistan in the south, Paktia in the southwest and Nangarhar in the north, while Kabul is 90 kilometers west of Parachinar, the headquarters of the agency.

Kurram was used as a base by all the Mujahideen factions during the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. The Haqqani network is very strong in Paktia, Paktika, Khost, Ghazni and Wardak areas of Afghanistan.

The power center of this group is in North Waziristan but it was facing difficulties while crossing the border, as the ISAF were closely watching their positions.

Now after getting bases in Kurram agency it would become easy for the Taliban to cross over to Afghanistan. The increase of drone attacks in North Waziristan was another reason the Haqqani network was looking for some other place to operate from. {Now, PA can start operations in North Waziristan, smash down empty mud houses and claim to have vanquished this warlord}
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SSridhar wrote:
anandsgh wrote:This Raymond Davis thing is getting big and I pray for it getting even bigger!!
Insh'a Allah.
good that Holbrooke is not around...
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Federal cabinet resigns
Addressing the last session of the cabinet on Wednesday, Prime Minister Gilani said a new cabinet would be formulated within the next 24 hours.
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One More

Bomb blast kills one in Charsadda
CHARSADDA: A bomb exploded in a cattle market of the northwestern town of Charsadda, apparently it was planted in a donkey cart killing the owner of the cart, police said.
What about the poor donkey?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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^^^ Short Dark Rice Eating Donkey, so nothing more need be said.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Narad wrote:One More

Bomb blast kills one in Charsadda
CHARSADDA: A bomb exploded in a cattle market of the northwestern town of Charsadda, apparently it was planted in a donkey cart killing the owner of the cart, police said.
What about the poor donkey?
Well its meat is Non Halal I guess, what else?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Narad wrote:One More

Bomb blast kills one in Charsadda
CHARSADDA: A bomb exploded in a cattle market of the northwestern town of Charsadda, apparently it was planted in a donkey cart killing the owner of the cart, police said.
What about the poor donkey?
but the news says one donkey is killed...

sorry donkeys, I meant no insult to your hard working community.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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on the other hand there are some questions remain unanswered:

1. Why the owner was carrying such a lame bomb which can only kill himself. A suicide literally!
2. or the actual embarassing news is 'donkey farted, owner died by suffocation'...
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Birathers you are mistaken, donkey is hale and hearty :mrgreen:

Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ulrkDiuXm8

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Forward to duffers in congress party advocating making-borders-irrelevant and uninterrupted dialogue

Revealed: How fake currency is pushed into India http://www.zeenews.com/news685837.html
Washington: Counterfeit currency is becoming a cause for concern in India with fake rupees believed to be printed in Pakistan and then channelled through Dhaka, Bangladesh, and Bangkok, Thailand, into Kathmandu, according to a new report.

This heavy inflow of fake currency has led some to speculate that Pakistani elements are deliberately trying to "create confusion and destabilise India", says the report released Tuesday by Global Financial Integrity, a Washington based study group.

The report on "Transnational Crime in the Developing World" estimates that illicit trade in "goods, guns, people, and natural resources" is a $650 billion enterprise, which most negatively impacts the developing world.

Indian authorities estimate that as many as 400 million fake rupee notes with a face value of some $9 million are in circulation in the state of Uttar Pradesh alone, and fake currency dealers in Nepal projected in 2009 that "by 2010 nearly 10,000 crore ($2.2 billion) of fake currency will be in circulation in India".

Destabilizing elements within states are also known to use profits from wildlife trafficking in order to fund military operations, the report said.

"Somali warlords and two Islamic extremist groups in India with ties to al Qaeda, Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami-Bangladesh (HuJI-B) and Jamaatul Mujahedin Bangladesh (JMB), have sponsored illegal elephant and rhino poaching," it said, citing Interpol and the US State Department.

"This development has implications not only for developing countries but also for international security," it said.

China is the world's major source country for counterfeit goods, but there is also known counterfeit production in Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, India, Russia and other former Soviet Republics, as well as countries in Latin America and Africa.

As with other forms of trafficking, the illegal kidney trade generally "flows from poor, underdeveloped countries to rich, developed ones".

Common countries of origin for donors include China, India, the Philippines, Turkey, Egypt, Moldova, Romania, Brazil, Bolivia, and Peru, the report said.

Of the 12 illicit activities studied, trade in drugs ($320 billion per year) and counterfeiting ($250 billion per year) were ranked first and second in terms of illicit funds generated.

Another key finding of the report was that profits from illicit markets are making their way to transnational crime syndicates through vast international trade networks.

The report rankings for the illicit markets examined are:

Drugs $320 billion, counterfeiting $250 billion, humans $31.6 billion, oil $10.8 billion, wildlife $7.8 to $10 billion, timber $7 billion, fish $4.2 to $9.5 billion, art and cultural property $3.4 to $6.3 billion, gold $2.3 billion, human organs $614 million to $1.2 billion, small arms & light weapons $300 million to $1 billion and diamonds & coloured gemstones $860 million.
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