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The proper way of addressing any male member of paki society is Janaab.Anindya wrote:More ridiculous outpourings...
For home minister Shinde, Hafiz Saeed is 'Mr' and 'Shri'
I concur. I am planning to do the same though my pack already includes the cricket channel and I do not need to pay again for viewing the matches. It will be revolting to see India doing anything with Pakistan except militarily whacking them.CRamS wrote: I hope other cricket fans on BR will join. I know this doesn't mean much, but a small step nevertheless.
It is okay to call him that, if the person in question is our custody, a judicial process is going on and the final outcome is Phaaansi!Anindya wrote:More ridiculous outpourings...
For home minister Shinde, Hafiz Saeed is 'Mr' and 'Shri'
harbans wrote:Ramay Ji where have i said that..I think you are making a major wrong assumption in your analysis. You are assuming that the WKK brigade and the rashtra machiner and even the constitution are tolerant and peace loving.
What you observe here CRams Ji has depth. Yet it is not for us to introspect alone, it is for others to do so along with us obviously. This issue has crossed my mind several times, and the response from the Freidman's in each case has been different. But there is a problem with Hindu's/ Hinduism. And it is not created by primarily by Hindu's, but by the confluence of Pseudo Nehruvian secularism in collision with value systems inherent in Dharmic thought. The PNS (Pseudo Nehruvian Secularism) is also a result of collusion and tolerance between Dharmic and ultra tolerant Dharmic strands with excluvist ideology. Let me put it this way:
Ultra Tolerant Dharmic Interpretation (UTDI) + Excluvist Ideology (EI) = Pseudo Nehruvian Socialist Secularism (PNSS).
Islamabad's engagement with the Hurriyat Conference is a "positive development and a recognition of the just cause of the people of Kashmir," Ashraf was quoted as saying in a statement issued by his office after his meeting with the seven-member All Parties Hurriyat Conference delegation led by Hurriyat chairman Mirwaiz Umar Farooq.
The country seeks to "resolve the Kashmir issue on the basis of United Nations resolutions and aspiration of the Kashmiri people," he added.
Ashraf told the separatist leaders that there was "consensus in Pakistan among all political parties on the Kashmir issue". In this connection, he referred to the appointment of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JeM) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman as the chairman of parliament's Kashmir Committee.
Further, stating that Pakistan "took pride" in the Kashmiris' struggle for "their right of self determination", he praised the Hurriyat leadership's"political acumen and wisdom" in its efforts to highlight the case of the Kashmiris and assured them that "Pakistan fully stands behind them".
Farooq thanked the premier and said the people of Kashmir "value the unconditional support of the government and the people of Pakistan". Foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar and Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira were present during the meeting.
The Hurriyat delegation is visiting at the invitation of the Pakistan government to discuss ways to push forward efforts to resolve the Kashmir dispute. On Saturday, the delegation met leaders in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. Other who include Abbas Ansari, Abdul Ghani Bhat, Bilal Ghani Lone, Agha Syed Hasan Al-Moosvi and Mussadiq Adil.
Pseudo Nehruvian Secularism? Perhaps you mean Nehruvian Pseudo-Secularism!harbans wrote:Ramay Ji good you pointed that out. It's completely correct. Nehru was being excessively tolerant to Han imperialist aggressive ideology, whereas Dharmic ideology should have told him not to embrace EI (excluvist ideology). Nehru was being as tolerant as Arjuna was being tolerant at the start of MB with excluvist frame of mind Kuru's. Nehru was being excessively tolerant of Paki's in 48 by calling ceasefire and withdrawing from several fronts instead of going to the UN etc. Our leaders are being extremely tolerant of EI (excluvist ideology) as we can see in their tolerance of the Owaisi's, Musharaffs etc. All i meant to say that this tolerance of EI results in Pseudo Nehruvian Secular Socialism. Certainly they are not tolerant of the Dharmics burning themselves in Tibet or becoming minorities in WB or Assam. Yet they are Ultra Tolerant with Excluvist Ideologies. Thats why my equation:
Ultra Tolerant Dharmic Interpretation (UTDI) + Excluvist Ideology (EI) = Pseudo Nehruvian Socialist Secularism (PNSS).
So it's not too different from what you imply, right?
I wish they kill more wimmens and children... they can get better scores and also can ensure that raisins are moved to jennat for abduls to enjoy.At least 17 people have been killed and more than 70 hurt in a car bomb attack on a market in the Khyber tribal area in north-west Pakistan, officials say.
Women and children were among those killed in the blast at the market in Jamrud, the main town in Khyber.
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The bombing comes a day after a 15-hour stand-off between militants and security forces in the vicinity of Peshawar airport, located just about 10km (six miles) east of Jamrud town.
At least 10 militants were killed in the clash, many of them ethnic Uzbek fighters, officials said. The Pakistani Taliban said they carried out that attack.
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It is unclear what the target of the attack was although the blast took place close to the office of the assistant political agent for Khyber, one of the top local government officials in the semi-autonomous region.
None of the Ultra, Exclusivist, ideology, pseudo, socialist, secularism and Nehru concepts are compatible with Dharma.Ultra Tolerant Dharmic Interpretation (UTDI) + Excluvist Ideology (EI) = Pseudo Nehruvian Socialist Secularism (PNSS).
Mumbai Magicians bought four Pakistani players – Mohammad Rashid for $41,000, Mohammad Tousiq $27,000, Fareed Ahmed for $21,000 and goalkeeper Imran Butt for $5,500.
Ranchi Rhinos bought Shafqat Rasool for $10,000 and Mohamamd Irfan for $5,000 while Delhi Wave Riders snapped up Mohammad Rizwan junior and Mohammad Rizwan senior for $10,000 and $26,000 respectively and Kashif Shah was sold for $9,500 to Punjab Warriors.
Indian captain Sardar Singh was picked up by the Delhi Wave Riders franchise for an annual salary of $78,000 at an auction that began in New Delhi on Sunday and was expected to continue late into the night.
Watch the pakis now complain about the disparity in the annual contract value between their TFTA and the SDRE players.Indian penalty corner specialist V.R. Raghunath ($76,000)
Dr Amanullah Malik, who is on two-year ex-Pakistan leave and teaches International Human Rights Law at the South Asian University, New Delhi, India, told Dawn that he had left for the neighbouring country on September 3 but the law college acting principal Samee Uzair stopped his August salary.
At this provocation, it is learnt, Dr Malik hit the principal with his bag ensuing a brawl between the two teachers, leaving both of them injured. Principal Mr Uzair got an injury near his left eye, while Dr Malik’s spectacles were broken.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has conveyed to its Bangladesh counterpart that it will not permit any Pakistani to feature in next year’s Bangladesh Premier League (BPL) unless the country fulfils its commitment of sending the national team to Pakistan for a couple of limited-overs matches
PCB has written a letter in a very diplomatic language
We believe the letter will not upset Bangladesh because the language used in it is polite
Then, the capitulation:Sources say the PCB has made this courageous move towards the BCB knowing it has somehow restored better relationship with India
Bangladesh have agreed in principle to tour Pakistan and become the first team to play international cricket there since an attack on Sri Lanka’s team bus nearly four years ago
...as long as there were no last-minute objections on security grounds.
And, you can send your letters of thanks to BCCI.A Pakistani board official told the website that the “onus is on Bangladesh now”, insisting that “we are committed to give them the best security”
lNone of the Ultra, Exclusivist, ideology, pseudo, socialist, secularism and Nehru concepts are compatible with Dharma.
India told not to 'bracket Bangladesh with Pakistan'New Delhi: Not happy to be "bracketed with Pakistan" in terms of security risk, Bangladesh on Monday said it was creating problems for its businessmen to set up shop here while Indian brand names were freely operating in Dhaka.
KARACHI: The rupee continues to lose ground against the US dollar which reached an all time high on Monday.The interbank exchange rate of the dollar reached Rs98.48 which led to an increase in the open market rate.The dollar is currently trading at Rs99.25 in the open market.
AQK should stick with photoshopping than preaching. TSP wont disintegrate, TSP is very strong. AQK doesn't know, TSP has better rockits than Bharat, it has more nukes than Bharat. It has more capable engineers than Bharat. TSP is strategically located. The world needs TSP, it can't fail. AQK is growing old....
Recalling the events, Khan wrote: "We know that in March 1971 Gen Yahya Khan sent Gen Tikka Khan to East Pakistan to crush `insurgents'. We saw our own army killing our own people. It is a well-known fact that, when given absolute power, people become cruel."
"Extremely horrible scenes were shown on TV abroad (I was in Belgium at the time) and I was ashamed to see that such cruel acts could be perpetrated by Muslims against Muslims - Pakistanis against fellow-Pakistanis. Everybody is aware of the fact that West Pakistani baboos considered East Pakistan a colony and treated its citizens in the same way as the British used to treat us."
He went on to say that the present situation in the country is not very different from that of 1971.
JEM Ji you're right, and Friedman should be encouraged. It's a net positive article. Remember the conversations we had on a soccer mom type forum on Lisa Millers' Newsweek article 'Americans have more like Hindu's' or something like that. People may blame/ regret/ like/ dislike/ say Indians are becoming like Americans, but Miller provided lots of Data points that in reality Americans are becoming more like Hindu's than the other way round. So in that light Friedman's article is just a confirmation that Dharmic values and understandings are slipping into American mainstream too.Btw, funny thing is I was criticizing Friedman for his "Hindu culture aside" comment... the article itself is useful propaganda for us. Not too much though, chap is now well known as biased in favour of India, but still.
So conveniently Xerox Khan is not including Kafirs and other lesser (Islamic) human beings in the recounting of a shining moment of his moral rectitude against perpetration of cruelity.. while trying to come across as a enlightened moderate Islamic (oxymoron itself)venug wrote:Pakistan may disintegrate again, warns AQ Khan...
"Extremely horrible scenes were shown on TV abroad (I was in Belgium at the time) and I was ashamed to see that such cruel acts could be perpetrated by Muslims against Muslims - Pakistanis against fellow-Pakistanis. ...."
Lilo the pisko lies in the accusation of Islamophobia itself that puts fear of criticizing Islam into your mind without even threatening to kill you which is what critics of Islam get. I read that a Paki in the UK invented the term and he has infected the west with it. The west are constantly checking themselves for Islamophobia like one might check if one's fly is open or cleavage showing.Lilo wrote:Isnt there a nice pisko retort which can immediately expose this fact, without allegations of Islamophobia drowning the conversation ?
You may also recollect that appropriate negative feedback was provided when those infiltrations were detected. Unlike the actions of a government led by a great visionary, the response was not limited to huge masala dosas.JE Menon wrote:As I recollect, it was a nationalist Hindu pm who launched he samjhautha express, and voiced all sorts of platitudes in Pakistan - while they were infiltrating terrorist soldiers into our land.
Are you really telling us that TSP advertised its defeat in 1971 by a commemorative postage stamp?!!! I thought their history books show they won the warVictor wrote:This has stumped me for many years: Why did the pakis put a baby faced, effeminate-looking POW on the stamp when they try to portray themselves as hairy, martial types at every opportunity?
That is to commemorate the POW shared by 89,999 other brave mujahids (temporarily in transit camps).Victor wrote:This has stumped me for many years: Why did the pakis put a baby faced, effeminate-looking POW on the stamp when they try to portray themselves as hairy, martial types at every opportunity?
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Agree - the article at the end of the days is free PR, so I have nothing against the article per se...My point is solely that Indian values as regards religion have always been more liberal than that of the Abrahamics (no tying down of spiritual claims to a particular prophet, no supremacism of 'My God', no concept of 'False Gods'...). So, while we should certainly welcome a leadership background that is far more diverse than any place else in the world - the presence of Abrahamics in leadership should not be at the expense of or dilutive of these higher Indian liberal standards. India needs to set an example for the world - not itself get changed to a lower level.JE Menon wrote:Arjun, no we don't know if they all adhere to the same level? But same level as whom? And who on that list might not adhere to "traditional indian liberal values", whatever those are?
And who really cares? It's the free pr that's valuable in the current context. Supposedly praising India!
PESHAWAR: A hand-grenage attack at the gate of Risalpur cantonment in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s Nowshera city injured seven persons on Tuesday, DawnNews reported.
According to military sources, two attackers riding a motorcycle hurled two grenades at gate No. 3 of the Risalpur cantonment where a large number of young applicants had turned up for the army recruitment under process.
Several security personnel were also injured in the blasts.
The injured were shifted to a nearby hospital.
Security forces cordoned off the area as investigations into the incident went underway.
I am surprised that India realizes this only now. It was all in the papers when Professor saheb's trial was going on in jihadi-pasand Lahore High Court. This says that he was arrested on the twin charges of preaching jihad and collecting fund for jihad, both of which are ostensibly banned in The Land of the Pure. He was arrested under the provisions of 'Causing Public Disorder', IIRC, which the LHC found the Preofessor saheb was not guilty of. Period.chilarai wrote:Pakistan misled India, never detained Hafiz Saeed in 26/11 case: Shinde
we definitely deserve all this and more !