Saurav Jha @SJha1618 7m7 minutes ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
BTW the Sudarshan LGB project has been closed by ADE. It is not being pursued anymore.
Saurav Jha @SJha1618 5m5 minutes ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
Sudarshan LGB accuracy was found to be inaccurate and it was proving expensive as well.
Why not keep trying until you get it right? Beg, borrow or steal, when will we learn? Until then we keep buying at godforsaken prices.pankajs wrote:Saurav Jha @SJha1618 7m7 minutes ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
BTW the Sudarshan LGB project has been closed by ADE. It is not being pursued anymore.Saurav Jha @SJha1618 5m5 minutes ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
Sudarshan LGB accuracy was found to be inaccurate and it was proving expensive as well.
Saurav Jha @SJha1618 2m2 minutes ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
Nirbhay's low altitude test flight scheduled to happen by April is essentially a test of the naval version.
Saurav Jha @SJha1618 1m1 minute ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
The Nirbhay project had actually been on the verge of closure a few years ago. It was resurrected almost from the dead.
Saurav Jha @SJha1618 16s16 seconds ago Bengaluru, Karnataka
Today heavier Nirbhay variants are in various of stages of development as are higher thrust expendable turbofan engines to follow the MANIK.
There were two LGB programs. Sudarshan and NG-LGB (Next Gen LGB). In all likelihood, Sudarshan may have been dropped (useful as a test bed) and the NG LGB program will continue. It will be more expensive, but with a MINS-GPS, it will have longer range & be equivalent to our imported Griffins.JTull wrote:Why not keep trying until you get it right? Beg, borrow or steal, when will we learn? Until then we keep buying at godforsaken prices.
An AAD test is to happen soon per reports, along with a Nirbhay test. PAD is now replaced by the PDV.Prasad wrote:We haven't heard much about PAD/AAD in a while now. Anything at AI?
Correctnegi wrote:SA 5 news is like the Backfire news , we never had them even otherwise it is very close to being under prohibited items as per MTCR guidelines.
FIRST OFFICIAL MBDA CONCEPT IMPRESSIONS OF SR-SAM.
European missile house MBDA is making a strong effort at the highest levels to give the comatose long-proposed joint Indo-French SR-SAM development programme new life. Top MBDA executives sought time with Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, meeting him twice in the last one month, to brief him about the SR-SAM (proposed to be called 'Maitri'). Sources say Parrikar heard out the MBDA executives but made no commitment, only saying that the representation would be looked into.
To be sure, it's a tricky situation for MBDA. The SR-SAM programme was all but sunk last year when the Indian Air Force said the Indian Akash SAM it deployed was sufficient for the short range air defence role, and that it didn't feel the need for a separate SR-SAM. The Akash SAM being a DRDO success means the latter is now perceived to have little or no incentive to partner with MBDA on the SR-SAM, but simply to continue working on the Akash and extend its range and capabilities for an anticipated Mk.2 version that the IAF and Indian Army are reportedly keen on.
Anticipating that situation, MBDA opened discussions late last year with DRDO, offering that the proposed SR-SAM, could be, in effect the Akash Mk.2 in terms of capability. The Akash SAM in service sports a range of 25-km, while the proposed SR-SAM is intended to hit targets out to a maximum of 40-km. It isn't clear just yet what the DRDO will choose to do. At any rate, the success of the Akash programme, and a rare public show of satisfaction from the forces gives DRDO more options, though the time factor could be key in a decision going forward.
"The aim of this programme, one of several initiatives within the Indo-French strategic dialogue, was to contribute to the development of the Indian defence industry. This would enable India to set up automated production lines for seeker, sub-assembly and full missile production. Despite SR-SAM ticking all the boxes regarding ToT, timescale, capability and equally economics, a decision is still to be made," MBDA officials told me.
singha, looks like several JVs were political...Singha wrote:The mbda proposal is hilarious.
An srsam with 40km range ie a rebranded aster15 assembled in India.
Le cheval dung.
I had photographed some desi blisks in 2013 and wondered what they would be used or. Looks like these chotu engines are being developed with Indian materials. Makes sense.indranilroy wrote:It is not welded Singha ji. The blades and the disk are a single piece. This is called a BLISK.
Singha wrote:The mbda proposal is hilarious.
An srsam with 40km range ie a rebranded aster15 assembled in India.
Le cheval dung.
Excellent!!!!!!indranilroy wrote:Brahmos missile talk.
1. A frigate hit by Brahmos, breaks into 2 and sinks in 4 minutes.
2. They can hit a house in an urban situation. Basically the test was a model village build by the Army in the desert. The aim was to take out a house. They did.
3. Army further asked them for 90 degree dive mode, which they now can. This automatically means that they have anti aircraft carrier capabilities. They won't sink it, but they will immobilize it.
4. 5 Brahmos NGs can be fitted on the Su-30.
5. They can get to hypersonic (Mach 5) missile by modifying the current engine with different materials/coatings.
6. Going beyond that is the challenge.
indranilroy wrote:3. Army further asked them for 90 degree dive mode, which they now can. This automatically means that they have anti aircraft carrier capabilities. They won't sink it, but they will immobilize it.
indranilroy wrote:4. 5 Brahmos NGs can be fitted on the Su-30.
How small are these missiles? How much performance has to suffer for FIVE of them to go under an Su-30? This can't be right. Just changing the materials/coatings? They can improve the performance somewhat, but how on earth is that current inlet gonna work at Mach 5??indranilroy wrote:5. They can get to hypersonic (Mach 5) missile by modifying the current engine with different materials/coatings.
6. Going beyond that is the challenge.
Now we have to listen to "Mach five missiles" with changed materials and coatings. 
The photograph has been stretched and that gives it the "fat missile" effect. Check out the actual truck pics elsewhere to see what I mean.Aditya_V wrote:This particular Prithvi missile looks unusually fat, is it due to some photography issue.patrika wrote:
India on Thursday successfully test-fired its indigenously developed nuclear capable Prithvi-II surface-to-surface missile with a strike range of 350 km as part of a user trial by the army from a test range at Chandipur in Odisha.
With a strike range of 350 km, Prithvi-II is capable of carrying 500 kg to 1,000 kg of warheads and is thrusted by liquid propulsion twine engines. Read More
Right. But from what standoff range? Surely the range can't have been preserved for such a massive reduction in mass and size?kit wrote:mein guess is a salvo of brahmos targeted at radar and defensive systems and runway of an aircraft carrier can severely cripple it ..maybe they could even develop specialized war heads to do the work !
Not sure i follow you Onyx/yakhont (which likely was funded with china's help and have shown off their "own" variant) has same speed and range as Brahmos, differences are on the seeker and onboard computer.Mukesh.Kumar wrote:Noob Question: If the BrahMos is as potent as it is why has the Russian Federation procured it? The Onyx P-800 has both lower range and speeds.
AFAIK the onyx has both greater range and higher payload and speed I believe is also similar. The only thing that the the Brahmos has going for it are the incremental improvements made by us. But one thing we must give to the Brahmos is that in spite of having been acquired on only one country it has been a great marketing success.Mukesh.Kumar wrote:Noob Question: If the BrahMos is as potent as it is why has the Russian Federation procured it? The Onyx P-800 has both lower range and speeds.
The Integral Coach Factory here [Chennai] has bagged a Rs. 300-crore order from the Ministry of Defence for manufacturing customised coaches for the Army.
The 72 specially designed coaches, including 40 two-tier AC compartments, are for transportation of defence personnel and equipment.
Parrying questions on the specifications of the order, a railway official said the heavy weight olive green coaches would be designed for movement at low speed. A special team of mechanical engineers was working on the prestigious project, which included some special wagons.
Days after the order was approved, a team from the Defence Research and Development Organisation held discussions with ICF General Manager Ashok Kumar Agarwal, Deputy Chief Mechanical Engineer P. Balasundar and others here on Thursday and finalised the design aspects.
Take that with a grain of salt most likely number is 3 Brahmos-M, remember pics last decade which displayed Mki carrying 3 Brahmos-A, Mig-27/29 carrying one. And as we later found out none of the platforms can carry it and even Su-30 can't carry them without structural modifications'.jamwal wrote: OTOH, Su-30 with 5 air-launched Brahmos is hard to believe. Are all hardpoints so strong ?
BENGALURU: On March 13, 2013, India had to destroy its a nuclear-ready cruise missile 'Nirbhay' during its first flight trial after it deviated from its intended course, creating fear. The kind of damage and loss such incidents could cause in the absence of a self-destruct mechanism is grave, but India doesn't completely posses the software and intellectual property for such technology.
As the make-in-India campaign chugs along in the defence sector, the DRDO has found a reliable partner for this technology in a Mysuru firm--Kaynes Technology.
A senior DRDO official told TOI that the company has developed an Electronic Safe Arm Fire Systems (ESAFS) Ballistic Missile Actuator Unit, which is being evaluated by the DRDO's missile teams for integration into various platforms.
"Among the key features of ESAFS is that it provides for a self destruct feature, which is critical not only during the testing phase of missiles, as has been established but also during actual operations," he said.
Kaynes' system consists of two processor cards and one communication/connector card that carries the commands, and facilitate relay control. "Not only can the missile be self-destructed after launch but it also has a feature where it destructs itself upon recognising unauthorised access," the official explained.
He said that given the sensitivity of these assets, it is key that no unauthorised access is allowed. Apart from the self-destruction feature, the system also helps prevent tampering, and is able to function in most conditions. "It is thermal, humidity, vibration and shock compliant," he said.
Upon contacting the firm, its Vice-President (Business Development) Lt Col (retd) Sharath Bhatt said: "I can't comment on the technology as it is sensitive and DRDO is evaluating it. Only DRDO can speak about it."
However, Bhatt, who is an artillery man from the Army, said: "What such technologies means is that India will have its own intellectual property in critical areas and will not have to depend on other countries. Also, in terms of replacement of systems or upgradation for future programmes, the process will simpler and quicker."
From 8.4m length and 60cm dia Brahmos, it's a long way down to 3.8m length and 34cm dia of harpoon. I'll be surprised if they manage that much reduction with Brahmos NG.Singha wrote:probably the brahmos-M would be a fairly small missile of Harpoon or KH59 size, so anybody in the IAF would be able to carry 2-3 and the su30 5.
its diameter would also surely be smaller than regular brahmos to preserve the L:D ratio.
http://weaponsystems.net/image/s-varian ... oon_v4.jpg
I suppose it can carry that load if weight is 1.5 tons. But the biggest advantage of Brahmos M IMO is that it can fit in 21 inch torpedo tubes.indranilroy wrote:Actually, that 5 Brahmos-M per airplane is almost certain. I heard it from multiple places, from the Brahmos head and also the HAL head. But, I feel although the capability will exists and photos will be published, at most 3 will be fielded operationally.
