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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 03 Oct 2018 23:56
by Falijee
Immy Has A Jallandhari Connection And Yet Claims To Be A Pure Blooded Pathan :roll:

Did you know Imran Khan has a Jalandhar connection?
India Today
Aug 5, 2018
Old residents of Basti Danishmanda, to the west of Jalandhar, Punjab, are delighted at Imran Khan's success. The former cricketer and Pakistan's soon-to-be prime minister, they say, has a deep connect with their part of the central Punjab city.It apparently used to be his nanke (place of maternal grandparents). The family of Imran's late mother Shaukat Khanum, belonged to the place and played a key role in establishing Jalandhar's Islamia College in the 1940s.
The old, yellow-washed, colonial-style house, where Khanum was born still stands in the crowded basti. Residents say, Imran and his relatives have been periodically revisiting the place over the years. The cricketer-turned-politician last made a rather emotional journey to Basti Danishmanda some four years ago.On an earlier visit to Jalandhar in 2004, Imran had told reporters of the trauma his family suffered in having to relocate to Lahore. He said his ancestors were based out of Jalandhar for over 600 years . [ As late V.S. Naipaul the Nobel Prize Winner in his seminal book ( Among The Believers . An Islamic Journey ) pointed out ,Pakis have a fantasy that they are descendants of some mythical fictitious Prince or a Pir who came with the conquering hordes of Babar and Sher Shah Suri and settled in India . Therefore, no "Hindu Blood" in their veins :mrgreen:] before 1947.
PS: Jahil-Ham-Eid - of Ghazwa Hind fame - belongs the same "club". His claims an even "better pedigree" than Imran . His goes far back as Mohamed Bin-Qasem , invader of Sind :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:01
by RCase
Falijee wrote: Is "Human Rights " " Minister" Mazari Aware Of This !


Tarek Fatah
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Blatant bigotry in Pakistan. Doctors introduce seperate Hindu and Muslim thermometers because Muslim patoents don't wish to be touched by an instrument used on a Hindu patient. Via @Mukesh_Meghwar
Probably the Hindu one goes at one end of the alimentary canal (like all the kafirs use it) and the Muslim halal version goes at the other end as prescribed by the prophet's practices!

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:13
by nam
yensoy wrote: F-16s promised to Pakis and withheld under embargo were in storage for over 10 years, see the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Air_Force
Between 2005 and 2008, 14 F-16A/B Block 15 OCU fighters were delivered to the PAF under renewed post-9/11 ties between the U.S. and Pakistan. These had originally been built for Pakistan under the Peace Gate III/IV contracts but were never delivered due to the U.S. arms embargo imposed in 1990.[111]
Another reference: http://pakfizaia.tripod.com/f16story.html

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F16 were embargoed for nuke activities. However they were paid by Pak, hence put in to storage. No such thing with Viper, it was the usual gift for their "contribution" to WoT. The US could have just updated it and hand it over to Marines. So this tell me, they is a deal coming.

Regarding the F16, only the jets were not send. US indirectly helped by allowing access to parts from Turkey & Israel. The embargo was a hogwash.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:14
by Peregrine
Falijee wrote:Veteran Journo Says That Imran's Govt Is A Rudderless Ship :mrgreen:

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Falijee Ji :

Pleas Let me have a Link to the Article

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:14
by nam
Immy Has A Jallandhari Connection And Yet Claims To Be A Pure Blooded Pathan :roll:[/url]
Dimmer is a Punjabi, not Pathan. Imran Niazi Khan.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:25
by Falijee
Peregrine wrote:
Falijee wrote:Veteran Journo Says That Imran's Govt Is A Rudderless Ship :mrgreen:

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‏ @vogul1960
Falijee Ji :

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The Yawn article is the link . ( I was paraphrasing the journo !) Pl see below for your "reading pleasure" :D

Saudi Arabia not to be made part of CPEC

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:35
by Falijee
Imran's Naya Pakistan Is A Sham ! It Is No Different Than Ganja's "Purnana Pakistan" :mrgreen:

Probe confirms political interference in DPO Pakpattan transfer
The News International
Oct 3, 2018
ISLAMABAD: The investigation ordered by the Supreme Court into the transfer of DPO Pakpattan Rizwan Gondal has confirmed that the police officer was removed under political pressure exerted by Punjab Chief Minister Usman Buzdar.
Usman Buzdar, a relatively unknown from D.G. Khan was appointed as CM by Immy through the recommendations of his third wife - The Peerni . The transfer of Gondal was done via the same mechanism Peerni's and Immy's recommendation to remove Gondal via Buzdar ! Talk of Naya Pakistan :evil:
The SC on September 17 directed for another inquiry into the transfer of Pakpattan former DPO Rizwan Gondal after rejecting the earlier inquiry made by Punjab former IGP Kaleem Imam into the matter.
The court had asked Punjab CM Usman Buzdar to refrain from taking dictation and being the chief executive of the big province should run the affairs in accordance with law as there is democracy in the country not kingship. :roll: CJP Nisar :roll:
A three-member bench of the apex court headed by Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Mian Saqib Nisar heard a suo motu notice of the former DPO’s transfer following an alleged altercation with Khawar Maneka.
Kaleem Imam and Ahsen Iqbal Jameel Gujar tendered unconditional apology and left themselves on the mercy of the court. The court after rejecting the inquiry report submitted by Punjab former IGP Kaleem Iamam directed Khalid Dad Lak, Coordinator National Counter Terrorism Authority (Nacta) to conduct fresh inquiry into the matter.
During the hearing, Punjab Chief Minister Usman Buzdar and Ahsan Iqbal Jamil Gujar, close friend of the Maneka family, appeared before the court after being summoned by the bench to appear before the court the same day.
Not sure if he ( Gondal ) is already reinstated or will be reinstated :roll:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:47
by Falijee
On The Tail Of Building A Refinery In Gwadar Comes News Of New Haspataals In Krachi, LaWhore And Isoo ! How Much "Good News" Can The Average Paki Digest In One Week :mrgreen:

Ashmore Group: Three world class hospitals to be built in Pakistan in collaboration with King's College London
Oct 3, 2018
ISLAMABAD - Prime Minister Imran Khan has said the government is determined to facilitate the foreign investors for investment in diverse areas of Pakistan's socio-economic, energy and financial sectors while ensuring security of their investments. :((
He was talking to Chief Executive Ashmore Group Mark Coombs along with his delegation in Islamabad today (Wednesday).
The Prime Minister appreciated the investment made by Ashmore Group in Pakistan and welcomed the plan to establish three hospitals in the country.
The Chief Executive of Ashmore Group expressed his desire for establishing three commercial hospitals in Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi in collaboration with King's College London.
A wish or desire magically converted into a commitment . Add this one more item to the Naya Pakistan list under the umbrella of the Islamic Farewell State . Another major schemes are refinery in Gwadar, couple of dams ,10,000 Pee Ech Dees sorry , this one is Purana Pakistan

Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 00:54
by Peregrine
Pakistan needs to raise $20b to avoid payment crisis - Salman Siddiqui

DUBAI: Pakistan has to initiate bailout talks with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in addition to seeking investment from friendly countries. It needs to arrange a massive amount of up to $20 billion instantly to avoid foreign payment crisis.

IMF request for CPEC contract details declined

No one party appears to be willing to provide the entire amount ($18-20 billion) required to run the country in the current fiscal year 2019,” said Citi Head of Public Sector, Middle East, Pakistan & Levant, Head of Banking, UAE and Oman Naveed Kamal.

The statement comes in the backdrop of Pakistan’s engagement with friendly countries like Saudi Arabia and China to arrange financing in order to avoid going back to the IMF.

Kamal was speaking to The Express Tribune on the sidelines of ‘Get the Financial and Social Insights that Matters: Middle East and Africa Media and Community Summit’ held in Dubai on Tuesday.

Foreign currency reserves of Pakistan have dropped to a critical level of $9.04 billion that provides import cover for only around one and a half month. And “the trade deficit of $30-35 billion is unsustainable,” he added.

Responding to a question about the persistent current account deficit, Kamal said, “Besides going to the IMF, Pakistan needs to increase exports and attract foreign direct investment (FDI) to avoid balance of payments crisis and bailouts in the future.”

“The government should invest money in export-oriented projects and create an enabling environment to attract FDI. Debt accumulation is not a bad thing, but its spending in an inappropriate manner is.”

The official was of the view that China’s multibillion-dollar investment in Pakistan under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) should not be considered a bad thing. “Infrastructure development is a must to attract FDI,” he said.

Pakistan assures IMF of increase in tax collection

China has invested $20b

Citi Country Officer Pakistan Nadeem Lodhi estimated that China had so far invested around $20 billion in Pakistan’s Early Harvest infrastructure and power projects under CPEC.

He said the projects would address economic woes of the country, which was a must to attract much needed foreign investment.

In the next phase, China would focus on agriculture projects, public-private partnership, developing economic zones and import substitution like establishing petroleum refineries. In order to come out of the financial crisis permanently, Lodhi emphasised that the new government in Islamabad just needed to fulfil its promises regarding structural reforms. The reforms included widening the tax net, addressing the subsidy issue and increasing exports.

Hunger threat

Experts said if the situation around the world remained the same, it would push millions of people to hunger. To avoid that, they said, the governments and private sectors should play their role and invest in health, education, and technology across the world.

International Rescue Committee Chief Policy Adviser Economic Programmes Daphne Jayasinghe said, “Another 85 million people may face hunger (in the near future) if the situation remains the same.” Economist Citi Africa David Cowan stressed the need for providing basic education for every child to avoid hunger.

Education for Employment CEO Andrew Baird said there should be a link between educational institutions and industries to create job opportunities and address social problems.

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 01:14
by Kakkaji
According to this news report, in Hindi, that loudmouth Qureishi did not get much traction in his talks with Pampeo and Bolton:

https://www.jagran.com/world/america-policy-of-trump-administration-will-not-change-on-prevention-of-pakistan-help-18493858.html

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 02:00
by Peregrine
Kakkaji wrote:According to this news report, in Hindi, that loudmouth Qureishi did not get much traction in his talks with Pampeo and Bolton:
https://www.jagran.com/world/america-policy-of-trump-administration-will-not-change-on-prevention-of-pakistan-help-18493858.html
Kallaji Ji :

I believe Daily Jagran has an English Edition.

Would it be possible to access this Article in English?

Many thanks in advance

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Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 02:37
by Peregrine
Reference my post 04 Oct 2018 00:54 above :

Domestic Markets & Monetary Management Department

LIQUID FOREIGN EXCHANGE RESERVES - (BILLION US$) 19-09-2018

FUDGED RESERVES : SBP : 09.0362 – COMM BANKS : 06.4853 – TOTAL : 15.5215

ACTUAL RESERVES : SBP : 03.2362 – COMM BANKS : 06.4853 – TOTAL : 09.7215

09-12-2017 : After debt repayments in coming months, SBP’s own net reserves will be a mere $4.5 billion
As of November 2017, the SBP’s official foreign currency reserves were $12.66 billion including $5.8 billion worth of currency swaps and forward contracts. Despite showing $5.8 billion as part of its own reserves, the SBP has also included the same amount in the total $6.01 billion reserves held by commercial banks.
By excluding $5.8 billion of short-term loans, the net usable reserves with the commercial banks stand at only $200 million. Out of $5.8 billion, $1.68 billion was obtained for one month, $2.46 billion for up to three months and $1.7 billion for up to one year, according to the SBP.
This is clearly double counting of $5.8 billion. In principle, it should have excluded this sum from the commercial banks’ reserves,” said Dr Ashfaque Hasan Khan, former director general of Debt of Ministry of Finance.
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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 02:42
by Kakkaji
Peregrine wrote:
Kakkaji wrote:According to this news report, in Hindi, that loudmouth Qureishi did not get much traction in his talks with Pampeo and Bolton:
https://www.jagran.com/world/america-policy-of-trump-administration-will-not-change-on-prevention-of-pakistan-help-18493858.html
Kallaji Ji :

I believe Daily Jagran has an English Edition.

Would it be possible to access this Article in English?

Many thanks in advance

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The English version english.jagran.com seems to be defunct.

Basically the story is saying that the US reiterated that it wants to see solid evidence of Pakistan acting against terrorists operating from its soil. It also wants Pakistan to bring the Taliban to the negotiation table. Until that happens, the aid will remain suspended.

It also says that the US side is unhappy with Qureishi's grandstanding (bayaanbazi) after his handshake with Pres Trump.

Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 02:55
by Peregrine
Pompeo stresses Pakistan's role in bringing Afghan Taliban to talks – AFP

WASHINGTON: US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pressed Afghanistan’s Taliban to come to the table to end the long-running war as he called on Pakistan to play a supportive role, the State Department said on Wednesday.

Pompeo met in Washington with foreign minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, in the latest US outreach to the government of Prime Minister Imran Khan, a long-time advocate of a negotiated settlement with insurgents.

Pompeo appreciated Pakistan’s support for political reconciliation in Afghanistan and for peace in the neighbourhood, APP reported.

The top US diplomat, who met PM Imran last month in Islamabad, “emphasised the important role Pakistan could play in bringing about a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan,” State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said.

Pompeo “agreed that there was momentum to advance the Afghan peace process, and that the Afghan Taliban should seize the opportunity for dialogue,” Nauert said of the meeting, which took place Tuesday.

Pakistan stresses on broad-based ties with US

President Donald Trump has doubled down on the war effort in Afghanistan despite his past calls to end the longest-ever US war.

But diplomatic efforts have also intensified, with US officials meeting in July in Qatar with representatives of the Taliban, whose hardline regime was overthrown in a US-led operation in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

In August, Pompeo congratulated PM Imran in a telephone call on taking office.

The United States has pressed for years for Pakistan to crack down on the Taliban and Haqqani network as well as virulently anti-Indian groups that operate virtually openly in parts of the country.

Trump has suspended military assistance worth hundreds of millions of dollars to Pakistan.

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Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 02:58
by Peregrine
Kakkaji Ji : Your Post : 04 Oct 2018 02:42

Many Thanks Indeed.

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 06:00
by Falijee
Paki Groper To Be Deported From Dubai, After He Serves His Sentence :mrgreen:

Pakistani vendor jailed for groping UAE woman
The Express Tribune
Oct 3, 2018
A Pakistan vendor has been jailed for groping a woman wanting to buy an abaya at a Dubai shop in March, Gulf News reported on Tuesday.
Convicting the man, a Dubai court jailed him for three months. He will be deported once he has served the sentence.
Police claimed to have nabbed the man from the shop in front of the woman. A sergeant said she “pointed at the accused and claimed that he had touched her top.” The man said he had touched her “by mistake”, the policeman said.
The defendant’s lawyer maintained the vendor had no criminal intent. “While he was taking her measurements, he mistakenly touched her top. He did not intend to do so.” The verdict remains subject to appeal.
Dubai wants to keep its reputation as a "fun in the sun" city to attract (white) foreigners, who want a "lot of sun". Any attempt at "Pakistaniyat" is dealt very sternly, as this case shows :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 06:09
by SSridhar
Peregrine wrote:Pakistan needs to raise $20b to avoid payment crisis - Salman Siddiqui
DUBAI: Pakistan has to initiate bailout talks with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in addition to seeking investment from friendly countries. It needs to arrange a massive amount of up to $20 billion instantly to avoid foreign payment crisis.
Almost ten years back, 'Friends of Democratic Pakistan' (FoDP) was set up to pledge aid and bail out Pakistan from similar precarious position, wasn't it?

Nothing has changed in Pakistan since then.

Without any punishment for its terrorism and wayward behaviour, another bail out is abominable.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 06:10
by Falijee
One More Confirmation That Imran- In Spite Of His "Liberal Education" Is A "Closet Islamist" :mrgreen:

Equating madrassas with terrorism unjustified, says PM Imran
The Express Tribune
Oct 3, 2018
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan said on Wednesday ignoring contribution made by religious seminaries in progress of society and equating them with terrorism and extremism was unjustified.
Taliban University at Akhora Khattak , "Chancellor" Samiul Haq . Most famous Alumni Jalaluddin Haqqani, Mullah Umar . University Of Binori Masjid in Karachi . "Graduates" sent out to do Jihad in Afghanistan and Kashmir . These are the prestigious madrassahs of Pakiland :mrgreen:
He made the remarks during his first meeting with a delegation of Ulema (clerics), who called on him at the Prime Minister Office to discuss madrassa reforms and other related issues.
He was talking to the faithfools !
The prime minister said improving the education system and curriculum was his government’s top priority. :((
Despite tall claims, the previous government had failed to introduce necessary madrassa reforms. However, with the PTI government at the Centre, hopes of seminary students have been rekindled in this regard.
Mainstreaming of the religious seminaries was part of the 20-point National Action Plan (NAP), formulated in the wake of the deadly attack on Peshawar’s Army Public School (APS) in December 2014.
PS: Religious parties headed by Khadim Rizvi and Hafeez Saeed were mainstreamed in the political process last election !

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 07:41
by anupmisra
About that Pompeo-qureshi meeting, apparently only the paki side has released a statement (more of a a rant). I did not see any statements on the Dept of State website. Anyway, per uNDTV, the pakis are in for a surprise.

Why US Is Unlikely To Revoke Pak Aid Cut
WASHINGTON: The US is unlikely to revoke the suspension of aid to Pakistan until it sees substantial progress against terrorists and their safe havens, the Trump administration has told Islamabad as top officials of the two countries met here to try to reset their strained ties.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Advisor John Bolton, during their separate meetings with Pakistan's new Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, are understood to have told him that in its assessment, the US does not see any changes on the ground when it comes to taking action against terrorists operating from the Pakistani soil.
The White House normally does not issue a readout of the meeting that its National Security Advisor has with foreign leaders. Qureshi and Pompeo did appear for a hand-shake photo op before the meeting.
According to informed sources familiar with the development, the US side is upset because of Qureshi's faux pas about a handshake he had with President Donald Trump during a luncheon in New York, which he described to the media as a meeting.
The situation in war-torn Afghanistan dominated the separate meetings Qureshi held with Mr Bolton and Mr Pompeo.
(However) In a readout, the Embassy of Pakistan here said Qureshi had a wide range of discussions with both Mr Pompeo and Bolton which included among others bilateral and regional issues including Pakistan's strained relations with India.
Typical!

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-unli ... ns-1926355

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 07:47
by anupmisra
Pakistan facing $10 to $12 bn financing gap: IMF
The visiting IMF team has assessed that Pakistan is facing a financing gap of $10 to $12 billion after taking into account all the projections of dollar inflows during the current fiscal year 2018-19, The News has learnt.
The IMF estimated that the rising twin deficits -- including the budget deficit and current account deficit -- would continue haunting the economy of Pakistan over short to medium term.
“Without taking remedial measures on internal and external fronts, Pakistan’s economy will see severe difficulties whereby the GDP growth will be slowed down and the inflationary pressures will rise,” the sources quoted the IMF team as saying during the final phase of the ongoing talks.
The IMF team has estimated that the pressures of twin deficit was going to persist for Pakistan during the current fiscal year as the Fund team estimated that the budget deficit might cross 6 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) against officially envisaged target to curtail it at 5.1 percent of GDP.
The IMF assessed that the government has overestimated the revenue collection and underestimated the expenditure side so the budget deficit might touch and even cross 6 percent mark for the current fiscal year,” said the official.
The IMF team wondered over budget making process of the government
Faisalabad accounting be damned! Sell more buffaloes.Then there's SeePack.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/376318 ... ng-gap-imf

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 07:57
by abhijitm
US state press release on qureshi pompeo meet

Secretary Pompeo's Meeting With Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi
The below is attributable to Spokesperson Heather Nauert:‎

Secretary Pompeo met yesterday with Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi, following up on their September 5 discussions in Islamabad on a range of bilateral and regional issues of mutual interest. Welcoming the Foreign Minister, Secretary Pompeo said the United States looked forward to working with Pakistan’s new government.

Secretary Pompeo discussed the importance of the United States and Pakistan working together to advance joint priorities, recognizing that bilateral cooperation was mutually beneficial and a factor for stability in South Asia. Secretary Pompeo underscored a common goal to advance peace and security in the broader region. In particular, Secretary Pompeo emphasized the important role Pakistan could play in bringing about a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan. The Secretary agreed that there was momentum to advance the Afghan peace process, and that the Afghan Taliban should seize the opportunity for dialogue.

Secretary Pompeo and the Foreign Minister agreed to remain engaged on these and other issues, and reiterated their desire to maintain constructive dialogue to advance shared interests.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 15:43
by Falijee
Immy To Appoint "Cleanliness Ambassadors" ! Because Pakiland Is Filthy And Dirty :mrgreen:

Six cleanliness ambassadors to be appointed as a part of ‘Clean Pakistan’ campaign: PM’s adviser
Oct 3, 2018

Wonder if Herr Kobbler, German Amb is going to apply for this position :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 15:57
by Falijee
Paki Commerce Advisor - Razzak- Floats Idea Of "Make In India Pakistan" !

“Made in Pakistan” culture to be nurtured to boost exports: PM’s adviser
ARY News
Oct 4, 2018
ISLAMABAD: Adviser to Prime Minister on Commerce, Industries, and Investment, Abdul Razzaq Daud Wednesday said that the government was focusing on promoting “Made in Pakistan” culture to foster the country’s exports and minimize the trade deficit.For this purpose, he said level playing field to all Pakistani industrialists and businessmen would be provided along with the foreigners. :roll:
He was speaking in Senate Standing Committee on Industries held here with Senator Ahmed Khan in the chair.The adviser said the country’s trade deficit was increasing every day mainly due to de-industrialization ( Shoddy Chini maal not flooding Paki markets :roll: ) as the industries were being closed down owing to ill-planning of the previous governments.
The previous governments did not planned seriously to promote exports and industrialization.
They only focused on collection revenues by increasing duties on import and export of goods without any planning and vision.He said due to influx of imported items ( Chini goods ? ) in the country, the import culture has been nurtured due to which exports kept on declining.
Regarding trade gap with China, Mr Daud said at present Pakistan imports goods worth of over US $15 billion while its export stands at only $1.5 billion which creates huge gap of trade between the two countries.“We are in contact with the Chinese authorities to resolve this issue and asked them to buy at least $2 billion worth of goods from Pakistan during current fiscal year,” he added.
Are they not gobbling up all the sea stuff ( fish, shrimp, urchins, see weeds, oysters etc etc ) out of the Arabian Sea near Gwadar and shipping them to China . And Paki Govt should explore exports of wild boars, donkeys ( for chow mein ) and snakes to satisfy their hungry appetite for exotic foods !
He informed that in this regard a delegation of Chinese traders was visiting Pakistan on October 8. “Chinese have been very positive and they are helping us to bridge the trade gap”, he added.
He said the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with China signed around three years ago was also not in the favor of Pakistan which needed to be changed. :roll:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:03
by keelhauler
RCase wrote:
Falijee wrote: Is "Human Rights " " Minister" Mazari Aware Of This !


Tarek Fatah
‏Verified account @TarekFatah
46m46 minutes ago

Blatant bigotry in Pakistan. Doctors introduce seperate Hindu and Muslim thermometers because Muslim patoents don't wish to be touched by an instrument used on a Hindu patient. Via @Mukesh_Meghwar
Probably the Hindu one goes at one end of the alimentary canal (like all the kafirs use it) and the Muslim halal version goes at the other end as prescribed by the prophet's practices!
this point would have been relevant even without the irreverence to another faith.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:14
by Falijee
"Word Of Mouth" Announcement By The "Shifty Saudis" Taken As " Gospel "Quranic Truth" By The "Pious Pakis" :mrgreen:


Important Announcement !


Govt of PakistanImage
‏Verified account @pid_gov
Saudi Arabia has decided to establish an oil refinery in #Gwadar. This was stated by a visiting Saudi delegation at a meeting with Petroleum Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan in Islamabad.

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PS: Fictitious pic of Gwadar Port thrown in for good measure !

Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:14
by Peregrine
‘Saudi investment in CPEC may upset Iran’

ISLAMABAD: The new Pakistani government has said Riyadh may invest in the multi-billion dollar China-Pakistan Economic Corridor project. But the move raised eyebrows in Iran, which is skeptical of Saudi intentions. Piff Paff and all that! It is a Humongous Load of Terroristani Morning Evacuation. The Saudis are going to build an Oil Refinery in India to which their has been no objections from Iran

A Saudi team arrived in Pakistan on Sunday to sign four contracts for oil and mineral sector investment and trade cooperation that, according to local media, "would ultimately extend the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) from Gwadar to Africa through Oman and Riyadh.

In 2015, President Xi Jinping announced the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a $60 billion initiative, which is part of his intercontinental BRI aims to expand China's influence in Pakistan and across Central and South Asia, as well as countering US and Indian influence in the region. It also includes plans to create road, rail and oil pipeline links to improve connectivity between China and the Middle East.

As Pakistan is grappling with an acute economic crisis, experts say CPEC has the potential to stimulate much-needed economic activity in the country. But many CPEC projects have not really taken off because of political instability in Pakistan. China is reportedly weighing the new government's steps regarding the project. Although Beijing and Islamabad agreed to include a third country, China can still convince Pakistan to not allow certain countries to participate in CPEC.

Some analysts say Pakistan's offer to Saudi Arabia to participate in CPEC and Riyadh's investment in western Baluchistan province bordering Iran and Afghanistan, could irk Tehran. Riyadh is Washington's closest ally in the region, and its involvement in a China-led economic project raises a number of questions about new geopolitical alignments. Iran, for instance, would certainly not want a Saudi presence next to its border.

"Gwadar [a port city in Baluchistan] has a proximity to Iran's Chabahar port and the Reko Diq project close to Zahedan, which is the capital of Iran's Sistan-Baluchestan province. Sunni militants [who subscribe to the Saudi-Wahhabi ideology] are active in the area. Why would Tehran not be disturbed by Saudi Arabia's investment in Gwadar?" Mir Hasil Khan Bizenjo, the minister for ports and shipping in ex-PM Nawaz Sharif's government, told DW. Bizenjo fears that allowing Saudi Arabia to play an active role close to the border with Iran would fuel sectarian conflict.

"The incumbent government is bringing Saudi Arabia closer to Gwadar. In other words, the hardline Sunni-Wahhabi state would be closer than ever to the Iranian border. This is likely to infuriate Tehran," Bizenjo, who is also a veteran Baloch politician, added. Bizenjo said the new government headed by Prime Minister Imran Khan suddenly decided to hand over some CPEC projects to Saudi Arabia, without consulting anyone.

"Previously, China was supposed to build an oil city in Gwadar. Now we have been told that Saudi Arabia will set it up. I think it will also infuriate China. The opposition will take this issue up in parliament," said Bizenjo.

The Pakistani media reported last month that China was unhappy with CPEC criticism coming from a Pakistani government official. Abdul Razak Dawood, Pakistan's minister for commerce, industry and investment in Prime Minister Imran Khan's government, suggested that all CPEC projects could be suspended until a review is completed.

Days after Dawood's statement caused diplomatic tension, Pakistan's army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa visited Beijing to allay Chinese concerns. Khurrum Sher Zaman, an official belonging to Khan's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI, Movement for Justice) party says the government is not opposed to CPEC.

"We have not taken a U-turn on CPEC. The finance ministry made some changes to the budget so that we can study and review some of the CPEC projects. But that does not mean that the government wants to scrap it. CPEC is crucial for Pakistan and its future," Zaman told DW. But analysts say that Khan's new government, which was inaugurated in August, has hinted that it would not give China a free hand over CPEC.

"The commerce minister represents his country's business community. He actually echoed the sentiments of Pakistani industrialists who are wary of China's growing control on Pakistan's economy," Ayub Malik, an Islamabad-based analyst, told DW.

Some analysts believe that by criticizing CPEC, the new government is also trying to send a signal to Washington that it does not intend to break ties with the US just to appease China. Khan's government urgently needs an International Monetary Fund (IMF) bailout to pay its debts, and the US, which has the biggest share in the IMF, has made it clear that it would not allow the West's money to be used to repay China. The South Asian nation's economy has been in poor shape over the past several years. While its current account deficit jumped 43 percent to $18 billion ($15.4 billion) in the fiscal year that ended June 30, its fiscal deficit rose to 6.8 percent of GDP.

The country's foreign exchange reserves, meanwhile, are dwindling, plummeting to just over $9 billion now from $16.4 billion in May 2017. The central bank has been forced to devalue the currency three times since December. Rising global crude prices present another challenge, as Pakistan imports about 80 percent of its oil needs. Khan's government, thus, appears to appease Riyadh and Washington to help Islamabad tackle the financial crisis.

Ayesha Siddiqa, a renowned security analyst and researcher, believes Pakistan has no option but to create strategic space for the Saudi kingdom. "The US blocked $900 million (€781 million) in military aid for Pakistan. The new government needs some relief in this regard. In 2013, Riyadh bailed Pakistan out, hence Islamabad is willing to give concessions to Saudi Arabia by offering it partnership in CPEC," Siddiqa told DW.

But pro-government analysts claim the Saudi investment will neither infuriate China nor will it anger Tehran. "The nature of our ties with China is strategic. Beijing provides us with a number of defense related materials. Saudi investment, on the other hand, will create more jobs for Pakistanis, because unlike China, the kingdom does not bring its own engineers and workers for economic projects," Aijaz Awan, a retired military official and defense analyst, told DW.

"The Saudis will also benefit from this partnership because many countries are interested in refining their oil," he added. Pakistan has a close strategic partnership with China, which considers Islamabad an important ally in dealing with its regional rival India. At the same time, Pakistan's ties with Saudi Arabia are also very strong.

Saudi Arabia also has a strong religious influence on Pakistan. There are thousands of Riyadh-funded seminaries operating across Pakistan. Many religious parties subscribe to a hardline Saudi-Wahhabi ideology. Many militant groups in the South Asian country consider Shiite Iran as their rival.

But Riyadh was reportedly irked by former PM Nawaz Sharif's government when Islamabad refused to send troops to support the Saudi-led campaign in Yemen. The former government felt Pakistan's involvement in the conflict would create problems with Iran, which is reportedly backing Shiite Houthi rebels in Yemen.

Although Khan's government pledged to stay neutral in the Saudi-Iranian tug-of-war in the region, Khan chose to visit the conservative kingdom for his first official first trip as prime minister. "Through CPEC participation, the Saudis will get access to the Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean. So, the Saudi investment serves multiple purposes," analyst Siddiqa said.

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:32
by Falijee
One Of The Richest Businessman Of Pakiland, Takes A Dig At The Chinese !

Trade with China should benefit both countries, not one: Dawood :D
Dawn
Oct 4, 2018
ISLAMABAD: Adviser to the prime minister on industries and production Razaq Dawood on Wednesday said that the rising tension between the US and China over trade tariffs was a good sign for Pakistan as “it would place us in a better negotiating position”.
Do not know what he is referring to here ! But China imports lots of agricultural products from Massa ( Soya beans, pork, beef, etc etc ) which will draw more customs duty, so Paki similar products ( wild boars for eg :mrgreen: ) would now become more "price friendly" for the Chinese !
“The prime minister is visiting China on Nov 4 and we will take advantage of this situation by pitching our position as a trade partner,” Mr Dawood said, briefing the Senate Standing Committee on Industries and Production.
Asad Umer, Finance Minister , was at one time, a Head Of one of Dawood's many companies . Now Umer has reciprocated and "recommended" Dawood for an Advisory position in Immy's cabinet ! Dawood, a Memon from Karachi, is one of the 22 families that "controls" Pakistan!
He said the government wanted trade to be more bilateral with China instead of the current unilateral position. Mr Dawood stressed for rationalising import regime to reduce duties over raw material so that the finished products become cheap and competitive.
What will then happen to one of the main sources of revenue for GOP . Here he is probably "thinking" of his own businesses here !
Responding to a query from the committee’s chairman Ahmed Khan that Pakistani firms were not competent enough to meet the modern day requirements, the adviser to PM said that the main issue regarding award of government contracts was corruption.
He should know ! His many companies would have been the victims of the same !
“There is corruption and mal-intent in every deal,” he said, adding that it did not mean the engineering base was weak.
The advisor also spoke about the potential benefits and risks concerning the China-Pakistan Economic Corrider (CPEC). “Our industry should prepare to compete with those [risks] in the industrial zones of CPEC, but we will also ensure that our industries are adequately protected,” he said.
Dumping of cheap Chini maal in Pakiland :mrgreen:
Referring to a power plant established under CPEC, Mr Dawood pointed out that even the ladder and furniture in that power plant had been imported from China. Someone in Pakistan "forgot" to do due diligence :mrgreen: “This is not right. We need to provide opportunities for the local industry too,” he added.
He also criticised the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) with China and said that as a result of concessions granted to China under the agreement, Pakistan was becoming a trading nation.The committee was informed that imports from China amounted to around $15 billion whereas exports to China from Pakistan were $1.5bn.
“I have asked the Chinese ambassador to raise the imports from Pakistan to at least $2bn. We have highlighted 330 tariff lines out of total 7,500 tariff lines of the customs where we need relaxations,” he said.
The Chinese are hard nosed negotiators , so good luck to him !

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:40
by Falijee
Information Propaganda Minister Fawad Laments Use Of State Enterprise As Public ATMs !

Cumulative loss of five govt institutions reached Rs 1 trillion: Fawad
ARY News
Oct 4, 2018
ISLAMABAD: Minister for Information and Broadcasting Fawad Chaudhry informed the Senate that cumulative loss of five state-owned entities has reached Rs 1 trillion. Speaking in the House, the minister said the Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) had total 14,800 employees and its total financial loss till date was around Rs 356 billion. The national airline suffered loss of Rs 45 billion only in the year 2017, he added.
Similarly, the total loss of Pakistan Steel Mills with 17,000 employees has reached Rs 200 billion, the minister said.
Likewise, the total loss of Pakistan Television with 10,000 employees was around Rs 7.5 billion while that of Pakistan Broadcasting Corporation was Rs. 5.65 billion, which was earning only Rs 450 million per annum, he added.
Pakistan Railways, Fawad said, has total 78,000 employees and its losses had accumulated to Rs 147 billion.
During a National Assembly session on Sep 27, Fawad Chaudhry had in a strong outburst against former opposition leader Khusheed Shah, saying the former ruler(s) bankrupted the country and ‘they must be hanged upside down’ for this crime.
Fawad rose to speak in the House in response to a speech earlier made by Pakistan People’s Party senior parliamentarian Khursheed Shah.‘I suggest the Prime Minister to order hanging of these culprits upside down, because of what they did to the country,” he told the House.Speaker Asad Qaisar intervened as the minister lost his cool, and asked the lawmaker to control his emotions and refrain from remarks that are against the assembly conduct. He also ordered expunging a few remarks of the information minister.
Why not get the Saudis interested in "investing" in any of the above "loss leaders" :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:48
by Falijee
Money Successfully "Begged" For Paki Snow Leopard :mrgreen:

GSLEP to spend US$ 19.77 million on protection of snow leopards in Pakistan

Oct 4, 2018
LAHORE – Global Snow Leopard and Ecosystem Protection Program (GSLEP) would spend an amount of US$ 19.77 million on the protection of snow leopards in Pakistan under the Convention on Migratory Species (CMS) of Wild Animals. The foreign-funded project was approved by the Global Environment Facility (GEF). The six-year project would be completed by 2023.
According to GSLEP, an estimated 200-420 snow leopard exists in Pakistan across Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Jammu Kashmir. Pakistan’s snow leopard population represents the world’s third largest by size, highlighting the country’s importance for conserving the species worldwide.Within Pakistan, the GB province contains the largest proportion (60%) of the country’s snow leopard population which is largely concentrated in the province’s two largest and adjoining national parks, Khunjerab National Park (KNP) and Central Karakoram National Park (CKNP).
All aid sources for Pakistan are slowly decreasing due to its "promotion of terrorism" so this manna from heaven ( $ 20 Million!) is a bonus . Corrupt bureaucrats must be salivating at this big prospect . Whether monies will be spent for the purpose of "preserving" the snow leopard remains to be seen :mrgreen:
The total snow leopard habitat available in Pakistan is about 80,000 km2 and encompasses four high mountainous systems, namely the Hindu Kush, the Pamirs, the Karakorams, and the Himalayas. These majestic ranges are home to some of the world’s most fascinating and endangered wild species, including the markhor (Capra falconeri), Marco Polo sheep (Ovis ammon polii), musk deer (Moschus chrysogaster), Himalayan lynx (Lynx lynx), blue sheep (Pseudois nayaur), brown bear (Ursus arctos), Indian wolf (Canis lupus), Himalayan ibex (Capra sibirica), and the snow leopard, which is taken as an indicator of this mountainous ecosystem.
:((

Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:50
by Peregrine
Talks with Saudi Arabia on $8bn Gwadar refinery in final stages - Khaleeq Kiani

ISLAMABAD: Saudi Arabia on Wednesday agreed in principle to set up a major refinery at Gwadar and showed serious commitment to make investments in other areas of energy sector, according to federal Minister for Petroleum Ghulam Sarwar Khan.

The minister told journalists that the two sides had agreed to set up an oil refinery at Gwadar and a summary would be moved to the federal cabinet on Thursday (today) for approval to sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU).

He said the Saudi minister for energy was expected to visit Islamabad later this month for signing of the MoU. He said the visiting Saudi delegation was offered to participate in the $2bn North-South Gas Pipeline and bid for the upcoming 10 petroleum exploration blocks to be offered for auction soon.

China being taken on board on development, says minister

He also requested Saudi Arabia “to enhance crude supplies to Pakistan”. Naturally. Just like Chinese bring their own Workers similarly Terroristan not having Trained Workers will have to rely on Saudi Arabian Workers! :rotfl:

Mr Khan was talking to journalists after holding a meeting with the Saudi delegation led by energy adviser Ahmad Hamid Al-Ghamidi.

The minister said Saudi Arabia enjoyed great respect in Pakistan and both countries had strong bilateral brotherly relations that would scale new heights under the present government. The proposed 500,000 barrels per day refinery is estimated to be completed with an investment of about $8-9bn.

On the sidelines, Pakistan updated China about the progress on engagements with Saudi delegation.

An official said that Chinese Ambassador Yao Jing on Wednesday called on Minister for Planning and Development Makhdoom Khusro Bakhtiar who is also focal person on CPEC.

Mr Bakhtiar told the ambassador that development of refinery would be more important for Pakistan than Saudi Arabia because it would significantly reduce Islamabad’s oil import bill estimated for current year at $18bn. This would also ensure that Pakistan’s requirement for financial support from the International Monetary Fund is minimised.

The planning minister and the ambassador also finalised plans for creation of a new joint working group on social sector and upcoming visit of Prime Minister Imran Khan to Beijing to attend an industry conference with a business delegation. The two sides viewed it as an opportunity to reduce the China-Pakistan trade gap.

A statement issued by the petroleum division quoted the Saudi delegation as telling the minister that they had visited Gwadar site allocated for the purpose and would like the hosts to provide a suitable piece of land for the refinery.

A senior official who was part of the consultative process said the two sides shared a ‘wish list’ of around eight to nine items for Saudi investment and hoped three to four of those items would materialise over the next few months. “Our priority is to focus on smaller deliverable projects of $1-2bn each in the first phase before getting into mega projects,” he said.

Responding to a question, the official explained that the visit of the Saudi delegation was of fact finding nature and its level of serious commitment for investments appeared very encouraging. “We have been successful in generating their strong interest and it would now also depend on our abilities to materialise some of these projects”, he said.

Officials said the delegation also showed strong interest in Liquefied Natural Gas based power projects. Since these projects are currently operational, competitive bidding would be the only way to move forward, they said.

Responding to a question, the official said question of oil supplies on deferred payment and taking stakes in Reko Diq were not a priority for the two countries at this stage. While the question of oil supplies has to be deliberated by the finance ministers of the two nations, a mega project like Reko Diq involving $15-20bn could not be taken up seriously amid uncertainty about its legal status. The mineral project is currently under international arbitration.

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 16:55
by Peregrine
Falijee wrote:Money Successfully "Begged" For Paki Snow Leopard :mrgreen:

GSLEP to spend US$ 19.77 million on protection of snow leopards in Pakistan
Falijee Ji :

Why did Terroristan have to resort to "Begging"? They could easily have included this project with CPEC - OBOR Scheme! :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 17:31
by Kashi
Pakistan seeks US role for talks with India, gets rejected.
WASHINGTON: Pakistan wants the US to facilitate talks with India as the two nations are not engaging bilaterally, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has said, warning that the absence dialogue could lead to escalation of tension.

But the Pakistani request on the facilitation of the talks has been rejected by the US, the top Pakistani leader told a Washington audience on Wednesday, a day after he had meetings with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Advisor John Bolton, during which he raised the issue only to be pushed back by the Trump administration.

India is opposed to any third country mediation in its relations with Pakistan. Pakistan has continuously sought mediation to sort out the differences, including over Kashmir.
"When we asked the US, to play facilitating role...Why do we ask? Simply because we are not engaging bilaterally. And that bilateral disengagement is…a distraction. We want to focus, we want to move on the western side of the border, which we are not being able to because we have to watch our back from eastern side (of the border with India). That is not a healthy situation to be in," Qureshi said in response to a question at the US Institute of Peace, a US Congress-funded top American think-tank.
So Qureshi gets snubbed and he's upto usual posturing- nukes, escalation, Western border-Eastern border....
"Now can you (United States) facilitate? The answer from them is no. :lol: :lol: They wanted bilaterally. But there is no bilateral movement," Qureshi said warning that this could lead to escalation of tension between the two South Asian countries.

"If that lack of facilitation leads to escalation and some of the statements that have come out of late have not been very helpful," the Pakistani foreign minister said in an apparent reference to the remarks by Indian leaders.
Now threatening both America and India.
The new government of Prime Minister Imran Khan, he claimed, is not shy of engaging. Referring to the cancelling of his meeting with External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj in New York, he alleged that India backed off.

However, he quickly skipped India's reasons for this – glorification of terrorists by issuing postal stamps and brutal killing of the Indian security personnel.

"If the Indians have a better option, share it with us. If disengagement, if not talking to each other will resolve and stabilise the region, fine. If that's their analysis fine," Qureshi said.
We are not going to change only.
Qureshi, who left for Pakistan after his meetings with the Trump administration officials, said it is unfortunate that the two countries are not engaging.

"It's unfortunate. That's the way it is. Now. What does this government want? We want normalisation. We want co-existence. You've got to recognise the reality. Pakistan is a reality. So is India. We have issues. How do we resolve them?" he asked.

After coming to power, the first speech made by the Prime Minister Khan was "that every step you (India) take towards peace, we will take two. And he meant it. It wasn't just because it sounded good. It wasn't to please anyone. He is too blunt a person to please people. He can be very straight and he can be very blunt. But he said that because he feels that way," Qureshi said.
Lack of talks is hurting Immy's echh&dee. It seems that his handlers were convinced that with Immy's elevation India would come back to the table.
India has said that Pakistan created the conditions for cancellation of the talks – due to issuing of postage stamps glorifying terrorists and brutal killing of its three security personnel.

The Pakistan foreign minister did not mention that in his answer and only said that the stalled dialogue process is not good for the two countries and the region.

Responding to a question on India's stand that talks and terrorism cannot go together, a view which is shared by Washington too, Qureshi referred to a statement by Khan while he was an opposition leader and met Prime Minister Narendra Modi during a trip to New Delhi that there would always be spoilers.
"There will always be spoilers. There will always be elements that will scuttle the process of peace. But when they do that, let re-engage to fight them. They will push us back. But we have to see what is in our interest, what is in the regional interest. What's in Pakistan's interest," Qureshi said quoting what Khan had told Modi.
Ah ha, the cat's out of the bag. India should hold "uninterrupted and uninterruptible" talks because that's in "Pakistan's interest.
Soon, he raised the Kashmir issue.

"They have to realise, and I think they were being simplistic, if they feel that everything that's wrong on the Indian side of Kashmir is all of Pakistan's making, that is an unrealistic approach," he said.

India, he said, should also revisit its policies and see why and how people have been alienated.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 17:31
by anupmisra
Falijee wrote:Saudi Arabia has decided to establish an oil refinery in #Gwadar. This was stated by a visiting Saudi delegation at a meeting with Petroleum Minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan in Islamabad.
Were the chini consulted and did they sign off? Having dealt with the chini investors for two decades, I doubt if they would leave such a valuable and strategic option open to third party investors who only want to muscle in their investments. After all, g'wadar is chini territory. Chinis would at least have incorporated the first right of refusal and second look in their agreement with the pakis.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 17:35
by anupmisra
Peregrine wrote:China being taken on board on development, says minister..... Just like Chinese bring their own Workers similarly Terroristan not having Trained Workers will have to rely on Saudi Arabian Workers!
OK, I just answered my own question (previous post) but this may be a clever way for al saud to "move" undocumented paki workers from saudi land to g'wadar. Native saudis do not work.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 17:42
by anupmisra
I bet the eyerainians were not consulted on the saudi-g'wadar deal.

‘Saudi investment in CPEC may upset Iran’
The new Pakistani government has said Riyadh may invest in the multibillion dollar China-Pakistan Economic Corridor project. But the move raised eyebrows in Iran, which is skeptical of Saudi intentions.
As Pakistan is grappling with an acute economic crisis, experts say CPEC has the potential to stimulate much-needed economic activity in the country. But many CPEC projects have not really taken off because of political instability in Pakistan. China is reportedly weighing the new government's steps regarding the project. Although Beijing and Islamabad agreed to include a third country, China can still convince Pakistan to not allow certain countries to participate in CPEC.
Some analysts say Pakistan's offer to Saudi Arabia to participate in CPEC and Riyadh's investment in western Baluchistan province bordering Iran and Afghanistan, could irk Tehran.
"Gwadar [a port city in Baluchistan] has a proximity to Iran's Chabahar port and the Reko Diq project close to Zahedan, which is the capital of Iran's Sistan-Baluchestan province. Sunni militants [who subscribe to the Saudi-Wahhabi ideology] are active in the area. Why would Tehran not be disturbed by Saudi Arabia's investment in Gwadar?"
"The incumbent government is bringing Saudi Arabia closer to Gwadar. In other words, the hardline Sunni-Wahhabi state would be closer than ever to the Iranian border. This is likely to infuriate Tehran," Bizenjo, who is also a veteran Baloch politician, added.
Previously, China was supposed to build an oil city in Gwadar. Now we have been told that Saudi Arabia will set it up. I think it will also infuriate China.
Interesting times ahead. Watch this space.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/376326 ... upset-iran

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 17:45
by Falijee
Paki Propaganda Minister ( Fawad ) Says That Ganja Political Appointee Ambassadors To Be Shown The Door !

Govt decides to remove Pak Ambassador to US Ali Jahangir Siddiqui
Oct 4, 2018
LAMABAD – Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry confirmed on Wednesday that the government had decided to remove Pakistan Ambassador to the United States, Ali Jahangir Siddiqui.
He is the business partner of Ex PM Abbassi. He is also his relative !
During a meeting with journalists, the minister said that Pakistan’s High Commissioner in Canada, Tariq Azeem would also be replaced as both the diplomats were appointed on political grounds by Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz government.
Hope Immy's "friends" are not inserted into these positions !
‘I think both of them should give their resignation voluntarily. Otherwise, we will pull them back,’ he clarified.The lawmaker expressed that the repatriation of former finance minister Ishaq Dar will be the first drop of rain ( is not monsoon season over ; has not "early harvest" been done on the CPEC projects :mrgreen: ) as efforts were being made to bring him to the country so that he could face justice. Does Chaudry know that UK has strict extradition laws !
Responding to a question whether Nawaz Sharif has been released under any deal with the Saudi government, the minister rejected the assumption that the Saudi government had promised $10 billion to Pakistan with the condition of Sharif’s release. Maybe, not $ 10 Billion as reported here , but these rumours are not unfounded !
‘Those who know Imran Khan cannot ask such questions because he is a man who cannot make such deals even if he is offered $50bn financial support,’ he said with confidence.
This statement confirms, without a doubt , that he is not Pakistan's Information Minister, but a Propaganda Minister for Imran Khan !
The lawmaker said the nation’s wealth stashed in foreign countries would be recovered and the process would start from the corrupt rulers.‘According to Ishaq Dar, who always tells lies, over $220bn properties and bank accounts of Pakistanis have been traced in different countries,’ he added.The minister said 165 big tax defaulters had been detected and a stern action would be taken against them if they did not bring themselves under the tax net.
The minister said that although Saudi Arabia would invest in China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) projects, it would not become a strategic partner of Pakistan or a part of the Joint Working Group or Joint Coordination Committee.
Saudi Arabia not a "strategic partner" of Pakistan :shock:
Mr Chaudhry refuted the perception that Pakistan had not taken China into confidence regarding third-party investment by Saudi Arabia. :roll:
On the issue of bureaucracy, he said the prime minister had issued instructions that the bureaucracy would not be harassed, but hastened to add that the officials who did not perform their duties would be held accountable.

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 18:02
by anupmisra
Pakis double timing with the saudis and eyrainians while sleeping with the chinis reminds me of this circus act:

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Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 18:10
by arun
Kashi wrote:Pakistan seeks US role for talks with India, gets rejected.

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8) Good to see attempt by the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan aka Terroristan to renege on the 1972 Shimla / Simla Agreement stipulation that there can be no third party mediation in bilateral matters involving India and Terroristan, is peremptorily thwarted by the US who toe India’s line and rebuff Terroristan’s attempt to involve the US as a third party mediator :rotfl: .

Meanwhile NDTV’s take on the same story put out by Economic Times:

For Talks With India, Pakistan Seeks US Help. Gets Rejected Again

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 18:12
by anupmisra
Another U-turn
The government has backtracked once more. Saudi Arabia is not joining CPEC as the third partner. Moreover, the Centre is now admitting that it failed to take China into confidence regarding the unilateral offer; despite the COAS being in Beijing at the time.
The ruling PTI is trying to put a brave face on things.
For it suggests miscommunication on a spectacular scale.
This is to say nothing of what is fast becoming seen as the new set-up’s tradition of announcing policy steps only to retract these a short time later.
Tehran is the biggest winner of the Saudi-non-CPEC game-changer. After all, the two countries are engaged in proxy wars that extend to Qatar, Syria, Yemen and Lebanon. Thus the notion of Riyadh becoming more closely tied to Pakistan was reportedly of great concern to an Iranian regime already suspicious of the Islamic Military Alliance (IMA).
Not to mention this country’ training of Saudi troops.
It is thus hoped that this will be the last flip-flop by the Centre. If it is not, this will hardly bode well for PTI’s first 100-day record.


Pakhanistan will likely be the new battleground between the proxies of eyeran and eyesauds. K'rachi is likely to be the battlefield because it is a coastal city and toiletistan's financial center. It is also rife with pissed off shias, balochs and pakhtoons (add mohajir masala to this goulash and, Voila, a dangerous cocktail that will make Beirut look like walk in the park).

https://dailytimes.com.pk/306048/another-u-turn/

Re: Terroristan - July 27, 2018

Posted: 04 Oct 2018 18:38
by Vips
Kashi wrote:
"When we asked the US, to play facilitating role...Why do we ask? Simply because we are not engaging bilaterally. And that bilateral disengagement is…a distraction. We want to focus, we want to move on the western side of the border, which we are not being able to because we have to watch our back from eastern side (of the border with India). That is not a healthy situation to be in," Qureshi said in response to a question at the US Institute of Peace, a US Congress-funded top American think-tank.
Ha Ha Qureshi trying the same old canard that the world has seen through. Brain dead Porkis think they can fool all the people all the time.

Begging for Aid/loan from IMF, Cash support from Chinese, Oil from Saudi and now begging USA for help for talks with India. Each and every able bodied person is in begging mode in 'Naya Pakistan'. :rotfl:

Not tuned to work hard to earn its upkeep, Shitistan should convert 'Naya Pakistan' into a big hira mandi. At least that way they can stop begging.