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Paul wrote:Liaqat Ali Khan's wife ........... Her family were Pant Brahmins who first converted to ROL and she converted to ROP to marry Liaqat. ............

Gus wrote:All discussion is worthless without a pic of said motorham - and analysis of pic can then determine whether vija be granted or not.

A_Gupta wrote:^^^Xinhua announcement.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015- ... 160189.htm

BEIJING, April 17 (Xinhua) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping will visit Pakistan next week

SSridhar wrote:I am seeing a metamorphosis among Indian 'aanlysts'. Many, who would normally ridicule advocacy of a tougher stand against Pakistan, have all of a sudden made a U-turn. I have never seen such a list of articles saying that Pakistan is incorrigible and 'nuff is 'nuff. Even The Hindu has an editorial and an article along the new line ! What a change, pleasant though to read for a change.

Waving the Wrong Flag - Edit, The Hindu
No More Carrots, Only Sticks

Challenge to India as Russia to invest $2 Billion to Build Energy Pipeline in Pakistan

The latest example of Russia-Pakistan bonhomie is the news emanating from Islamabad that Russia has agreed to invest $2 billion in Pakistan to build an 1100-km-long energy pipeline from Karachi to Lahore to transport liquefied natural gas.

Pakistan Petroleum Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi was quoted by Pakistani daily Express Tribune as saying thus on 18 April: "Pakistan and Russia have finalized an LNG pipeline deal in a recent meeting in Moscow and the two countries will sign a government-to-government basis deal next month."

kittoo wrote:Comes from Paki sources so we should take them with a pinch of salt, but if true, I am kind of flabbergasted. I get it that Russia is trying to invest in other countries as it gets isolated in Europe, but seriously? Would they risk being in bed with Pakistan, at the cost of India?

http://www.firstpost.com/world/russia-t ... 02634.html

Challenge to India as Russia to invest $2 Billion to Build Energy Pipeline in Pakistan

The latest example of Russia-Pakistan bonhomie is the news emanating from Islamabad that Russia has agreed to invest $2 billion in Pakistan to build an 1100-km-long energy pipeline from Karachi to Lahore to transport liquefied natural gas.

Pakistan Petroleum Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi was quoted by Pakistani daily Express Tribune as saying thus on 18 April: "Pakistan and Russia have finalized an LNG pipeline deal in a recent meeting in Moscow and the two countries will sign a government-to-government basis deal next month."

Pakistan has called on India to resume foreign secretary-level talks to resolve all outstanding issues, saying with peace the menace of poverty, illiteracy and injustice in the region can be eradicated. {What a lofty idea}

"Although the Indian foreign secretary visited Pakistan on March 3 this year but it was 'a goodwill gesture'. The formal talks have yet to resume," Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's adviser on foreign affairs Sartaj Aziz said.

Aziz made the remarks at a seminar titled 'Muslim-Sikh Dosti Di Tarjman — Baisakhi (Baisakhi represents Muslim-Sikh friendship)' here at the Lahore Fort last evening.

"Pakistan believes in peace in the region and desires to initiate dialogue on all issues with India. If there will be peace, we all can eradicate the menace of poverty, illiteracy and injustice in the region," he said.

He urged India to resume the process of dialogue as agreed by the two premiers — Nawaz Sharif and Narendra Modi — during their meeting last year.

Aziz expressed wonder at the "inordinate delay" by India in resuming foreign secretary-level talks.

"Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif after 2013 general elections had announced an economic and social development roadmap for the country through developing good relations with the neighbours, including India. Under this policy, Mr Sharif went to India and took part in the oath-taking ceremony of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi," Aziz said.

During their meeting on May 27, 2014, both premiers agreed to resume foreign secretary-level talks.

"And on August 25, subsequently India conveyed to us about sending its foreign secretary to Islamabad in this regard," he said.

More than 1,700 Indian Sikhs have come here [Lahore] to take part in Baisakhi festivities.

Aziz also talked about Pakistan's efforts to protect the rights of minorities in the country.

"Now every Sikh or Hindu knows well that Pakistan is doing a lot for them. And the Baisakhi, I will say it represents an unending friendship between Sikhs and Muslims," he said.

JE Menon wrote:http://swarajyamag.com/world/pakistan-b ... -in-yemen/

Why LET needs to get into Yemen.

Aziz expressed wonder at the "inordinate delay" by India in resuming foreign secretary-level talks.

JE Menon wrote:

Gus wrote:All discussion is worthless without a pic of said motorham - and analysis of pic can then determine whether vija be granted or not.

Undeed, this is a very valid point - i.e. the manner of determining whether visa be granted, or not. In the latter case perhaps the real address of the Canadian High Commission may be provided.

KLNMurthy wrote:

JE Menon wrote:http://swarajyamag.com/world/pakistan-b ... -in-yemen/

Why LET needs to get into Yemen.

S Subramaniam shows expert-level knowledge of paki terrorist structure and players. reminds me of BRF's SSridhar.

Aziz expressed wonder at the "inordinate delay" by India in resuming foreign secretary-level talks.

Falijee wrote:Chinese whispers

QUOTE:
Numbers can be obscure and complicated, but sometimes they tell a tale of their own. So, with fair warning, chew on these figures a minute: $5.4 billion, $3.7bn, $2.1bn, $1.6bn, $820 million, $1.4bn, $1.6bn and $710m.

(If you really want to know the net FDI position, Turkish investors have withdrawn $3.2m from Pakistan this year.)
COMMENT:
A healthy dose of reality to offset the hype generated on the eve of the "higher than mountain " friend !

The Chinese are actually investing $47 B in Pakistan. That is not a false news. Basically what is happening is this:

The Chinese want to fast track and clear about $47B, out of which 2/3 is going to building power plants (Coal fired) and 1/3 is going towards building highways and railways. China thinks that they can do import/export from their western parts through Pakistan through Gwadar. Here is where the Chinese are clever:

These are not "free money" like how the US doles out (more on this later), but these are loans. Loans not made from a government to government basis but loans from Banks that the Chinese have a substantial stake in. Like AIIB. The money will then be used by Chinese firms to execute the project. Pakistan has to return the money + interest.

What is in it for the Chinese infrastructure companies? China has plenty of spare and idle capacity for executing infrastructure projects. Chinese companies are going to profit by being paid for executing this projects in Pakistan.

What is in it for Chinese Banks? The dependence of Paki government on China means that the banks have reduced the risk of default and are getting a handsome rate of return for the loan.

What is in it for Pakis? Nobody wants to invest in Pakistan. By borrowing and solving their energy and transportation problem, their economy is likely to grow and get jobs for abduls and reduce power cuts. On the down side though they do have to pay the money back + interest. On the upside, if the economy grows the interest is immaterial. Think of it as a student loan. Yes you are getting a loan, but your employment more than makes up for the loan interest you need to pay.

Now these projects are not going to be executed by Paki companies, but are going to be executed by Chinese companies. Which is a good and bad thing. The good thing is that various Paki companies/politicians are not going to siphon off money and cause inordinate delays. The bad thing is that no abdul is going to find work and it is being done by Chinese engineers/labor. Little birdie told me that Pakis are raising a force (like CISF) to actually guard the Chinese workers/engineers.

Here is what the Chinese are doing right and the Americans are not. Basically US gives out "free money" for changing Pakistan's policies. Like for example letting Pakistan move goods through Pakistan to Afghanistan. Then they actually pay money for the actual job. Which causes all the Pakis to froth in the mouth and go AOA!!!! YYY KILLING OUR TERRORIST BIRATHERS BY GIVING OUT MONEY!!! JEEEEHAAAARRRRDDDDD!!!!!

The Chinese on the other hand, their interests are economic first (how to give $5 to Pakistan, get back the $5 from Pakistan by making them use Chinese labor and companies to execute projects and get $5 more in interest payments?). And politico/strategic next: President eleven privately squeezes the testimonials of Bad sharif, good Sharif. This causes the Pakis to sing CHINESE BIRATHERS TALLER THAN TREE, DEEPER THAN MOUNTAIN, SWEETER THAN OCEAN!!!! in a high pitched voice, because their testimonials are getting squeezed well.

Ofcourse when Pakis default on payments, they are going to hate AIIB and not China. The way they hate WB, IMF now. All in all a clever ploy by the Chinese. They get Indian containment free with this one. If pakis play their cards right, it is probably good for Pakis too. Capital investment is drying out, there is no money/skill to execute on large infra projects like Highways and power plants. This is a good avenue for doing that.

Think of it this way: US hires Pakistan as a client would hire a sex worker. Sex worker resents the Client. Client gets a few half hearted services for the money. China hires Pakistan as a Pimp would employ a sex worker. Sex worker actually thinks the pimp is doing him/her a favor and loves the pimp. Pimp profits a lot. This is the key difference.

ramana wrote:No speculation on members Ids. No encouraged.

Jhujar wrote:
Paki wont be able to pay even the interests and then PRC will start taking over real estate.

Mubasher Lucman @mubasherlucman · 51m 51 minutes ago

So Now, with NO BIDDING involved, Government will award contracts with a construction Cost of $ 1.7 Million per Mega Watt

Brahma Chellaney ‏@Chellaney 14h14 hours ago

Want evidence that China treats Pakistan as its colony? Xi's package of power projects will be Chinese-owned with Pak committed to buy power

RamaY wrote:..

I didn't know President Eleven is dumber than our Rahul Gandhi.

Jhujar wrote:Mubasher Lucman @mubasherlucman · 4m 4 minutes ago
This LOAN carries a FEE/INTEREST RATE of 7% whereas the project loans Pakistan gets from ADB/WB etc are usually at a rate of 2-4%
Mubasher Lucman @mubasherlucman · 5m 5 minutes ago
the actual GRAND THEFT is supposed to begin soon The investment from China that they keep parroting about isn’t investment, it’s a LOAN

Paki wont be able to pay even the interests and then PRC will start taking over real estate. Its no secret that China has no history of Charity but that of deception only. They will own the coast line and Paki will be land locked soon.

XINJIANG: In another attempt to suppress religious freedoms, China forced imams from its eastern Muslim majority Xinjiang region to dance in the street and swear to an oath that they would not teach religion to children.

The imams were also forced to tell children that prayer was harmful for the soul.

The Muslim imams were further forced to brandish the slogan that “our income comes from the CKP [Chinese Communist Party] not from Allah”.

Tuvaluan wrote:

Aziz expressed wonder at the "inordinate delay" by India in resuming foreign secretary-level talks.

The choothspah of the Pakis is always endearing -- these paki turds just shutdown the 26/11 case and released lakhvi and showed India the finger, and now have the temerity to "demand" talks. Bunch of terrorist scum must think everyone else has as short a memory as they do.

RamaY wrote:Anujanullah,

Sounds all good on paper.

Issue starts when Paki Abduls notice that they aren't getting any jobs despite of all these projects getting executed. On top of it they can aim their AK47s at chinese rupee a dozen. And all this new infra and (uninterrupted) power improves the IeDs of Jehadis.

China is pouring dragon-milk in Balochi desert.

Some may think China can & will control pakiness of ordinary Abdul. I bet they are being too optimistic like our secularists. If China is not able to control non-violent Buddhists in Tibet, how can they control a motivated Jihadi who is 72 times more powerful?

I didn't know President Eleven is dumber than our Rahul Gandhi.

ramana wrote:No speculation on members Ids. No encouraged.

KLNM wrote: For a Paki mind, releasing Laqvi is a victory.

KLNM wrote: Do Pakis want honest jobs?