Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - Apr 22 2015

habal · Post by **habal** » 07 Jul 2015 17:04

they are not raiding outfits such as 'Sunni tehreek', 'Jamaat-e-Islami', Lashkar proxies in Karachi who are also doing pretty much the same things as MQM. Their focus seems only on the low-risk MQM. One can understand the intention of the bad sharif, who is in a hurry obviously to 'clean Karachi' before the Chinese unload their log onto some 'corridor'. But the thinking is simplistic:

1. the religious outfits will take over from MQM.
2. Karachi plays by Karachi rules (as mentioned by a poster before, it's a good term for explaining the situation IMHO) and not necessarily MQM rules.
3. Army chief term is 3 years, they need to ensure the army keeps continuous vigil over Karachi for 3 consecutive terms or 9 years.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Jul 2015 17:16

Owen Bennett-Jones' take on what is going on re: MQM, India, money-laundering:
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... priorities

The massive UK investigation has come down to two cases: money laundering and the murder of Imran Farooq. For the police in London the murder has always been the higher priority. The police said from an early stage that they believed the murder had a political aspect. And that’s important. It’s a red line. The UK does not want the disputes of foreign political activists to be fought out on the streets of London. Whether the victim is Russian or Pakistani any such murder sparks a determined effort to bring the perpetrators to justice.

The money-laundering case was only ever a secondary, incidental investigation that arose because of large amounts of cash found in the course of the murder enquiry. To that extent it was the evidence that lead the police to the money laundering issue. But there was also always the possibility that the money laundering case could give the UK authorities some leverage in the murder case.

But the army/ISI/establishment/deep state in Pakistan now has diametrically opposed priorities. They want to advance the money laundering case ahead of the murder one. That’s because with the money laundering case comes what the Pakistani military sees as the enticing prospect of a UK court hearing evidence that India funded a group often accused of engaging in violence in Karachi.

There is another factor to consider. For the ISI, the murder case carries the risk of embarrassment. When the Pakistan government recently ordered the arrest in Chaman of two suspects in the murder case – Mohsin Ali Syed and Khalid Shamin – two difficult questions arose. First, where had they been for the last five years? Were they, as many press reports suggest, in illegal ISI detention all that time? And secondly what has happened to another named suspect Kashif Khan Kamran? Did he escape? Is he still alive?

It is not clear if the UK police currently visiting Pakistan have been granted access to Mohsin Ali Syed and Khalid Shamin. But reports suggest that they have either had none or very limited access. Most or all of their meetings have been with another suspect, Muazzam Ali. That would make sense because Muazzam Ali’s detention history raises less difficult issues for the ISI.

In other words the establishment in Pakistan now has a couple of reasons for not wanting the murder case to advance rapidly, especially if that takes attention away from the money laundering case. There is a possibility that Pakistan will try to drag out the murder case by not granting access to the suspects and that in return the UK will go slow on the money laundering case.

In any event there are now two sets of national authorities working on the basis of different priorities.

The next key moment comes in July when the six people arrested in the money laundering case will either have their cases dropped, their bail extended or be charged.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 07 Jul 2015 17:39

Sub-Inspector, bank manager among 4 killed in Karachi violence

KARACHI: A sub-inspector of Sindh Police and manager of a local bank among at least four people have been gunned down in separate incidents of firing within few hours in the city, officials said early on Tuesday.
Cheers

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 07 Jul 2015 18:26

Karachi_Post ‏@Karachi_Post 1h1 hour ago

My sources are telling me that Zaid Hamid had met several Saudi dissidents in #Saudi and was planning coercive acts in #KSA #Saudi #Yemen

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Jul 2015 18:51

pankajs wrote:Karachi_Post ‏@Karachi_Post 1h1 hour ago

My sources are telling me that Zaid Hamid had met several Saudi dissidents in #Saudi and was planning coercive acts in #KSA #Saudi #Yemen

^ If true, it should be directly traceable to the PA/ISI. The Royalty must immediately disarm the Pakistani contingent at Al Yamamah and expel them forthwith.

Islam demands execution for sponsoring dissension against the King.

Added later:
I am beginning to see the connection between PA/ISI and AQIS more clearly now. It has been my theory that AQIS is a creation of the PA/ISI in order to achieve a few things: continue terrorism against India, bring under one umbrella all (or almost all) jihadi organizations that toe the ISI line, act as a hedge against the spread of the IS etc.

OTOH, the Saudis hate the AQ for various reasons, including the attempted assassination of the Royalty. The IS is their creation, a breakaway faction created to weaken the AQ, be under the Saudi thumb and violently implement its anti-Shi'a campaign while propagating/establishing wahhabism in the lands it captured.

Zaid was toeing the PA/ISI line behind the Saudi lines as a saboteur and was caught.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 07 Jul 2015 18:55

Seems the boom has been lowered on MQM ....

Karachi_Post ‏@Karachi_Post 7m7 minutes ago >>

* Altaf Hussain annolunces #MQM sit in outside CM house against alleged extra judicial murders and arrests of #MQM party members in #Karachi
* Altaf says if CM Sindh & ministers see Sindh as their mother ,they should pass law saying #Sindh doesn't need rangers. #Karachi #MQM
* Altaf hussain asks party leaders to contact international human rights organization against alleged persecution of #MQM workers & mohajirs
* Altaf tells CM Sindh to pass a law barring Rangers from conducting activities in #Sindh #Karachi #MQM

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 07 Jul 2015 19:06

Pakis did rebuff the KSA request for troops. Must have been a rude shock to KSA after all that money and support for decades. Could this zaid idiot jailing be related to that?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Jul 2015 19:58

Enemy of enemy: Hekmatyar support for IS stuns observers

So Hekmatyar, the ex ISI asset has now switched sides and supports IS

Someone had (correctly) made an observation about Afghans, of all hues- you can always rent one, but not own one !

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 07 Jul 2015 19:59

My sources are telling me that Zaid Hamid had met several Saudi dissidents in #Saudi and was planning coercive acts in #KSA #Saudi #Yemen

Political activity is strictly verboten and is one of the terms for getting a KSA visa -- the application form clearly states that foreigners who do so will face jail time/execution.

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 07 Jul 2015 20:09

#IamZaidHamid trending in Pakistan

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 07 Jul 2015 20:21

Indian authorities confirm meeting of Nawaz, Modi in Russia

ISLAMABAD – Indian authorities on Tuesday confirmed meeting between Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi in Russia after the Indian prime minister expressed willingness, reported by Private TV channel.

The Indian authorities have informed the Foreign Office (FO) today about the development. The meeting will be held on Modi’s wish. Prime Minister Nawaz will raise the issue of Indian intelligence agency RAW s intervention in Pakistan.

Earlier, NDTV reported that the two leaders will meet in the Russian city of Ufa, on the sidelines of a summit of the Shanghai Coperation organisation. The meeting is set to take place on 10th of July. Prime Minister Modi's phone call to Nawaz at the start of the holy month of Ramzan set the tone and broke the ice.
Cheers

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 07 Jul 2015 20:45

ISI had three groups of terror organizations
1. Kashmiri specific groups: LET/JUD, Jaish JEM, etc to target India and J&K
2. Taliban and Haqqani Network: To target Afghanistan.
3. AlQd: For international ops, at the initiative of the Ummah loving ISI officers.

AlQ and the LET chiefs believe in the same school of thought, had frequently met each other, and their origin was from the same place/town, the ISI mothered both of them, funded both their ops.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Jul 2015 20:50

Pakistan Develops Drones

A good article by A Conspiracy Journal

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Jul 2015 23:09

Remember the attack on a bus in safoora where 45 ismailis were lined up and shot? Apparently this worthy, a teacher in a private university was a key facilitator!

http://dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pakist ... e-released

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 07 Jul 2015 23:10

Lord Nazir Writes Letter to Saudi Prince for Zaid Hamid Release

LONDON: Lord[*] Nazir Ahmed of House of Lords, London has written a letter to Saudi Prince and raised concerns about the detention of Pakistani citizen Zaid Hamid.

[*] By the way what were his services to Englandistan , that he got peerage

He also demands that Saudi authorities should make clear that whether he is a political prisoner or a threat to national security of their country.

As a British Lord, is he allowed to interfere in the domestics matters of Pakiland :-? Was prior permission from House of Lords obtained ? Back channel used by the Pakis ?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jul 2015 23:21

Paki reptilian brain is evolving from dinosaur to snake.
It bites the hand that feeds it!!!

Lord Nazir demanding Zaheel Hamid's release is interesting turn on events.

Shows the many heads of the hydra.

partha · Post by **partha** » 07 Jul 2015 23:50

^
That teacher resembles Kayani!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Jul 2015 00:29

Could be Kiyani in burkha after retirement. Found himself.

Tuvaluan · Post by **Tuvaluan** » 08 Jul 2015 01:18

Only way to find out is to see if she can roll a cigarette with tobacco from a pouch -- then it is definitely kiyani inspired by Caitlyn Jenner. Not that pakis need an excuse to wander around in a burkha even with a foot long beard.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Jul 2015 01:29

Why did this scumbag wear a burka !!!
He was trying to hide his pretty face from the adulation of the crowd.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 08 Jul 2015 01:36

Gus wrote:Pakis did rebuff the KSA request for troops. Must have been a rude shock to KSA after all that money and support for decades. Could this zaid idiot jailing be related to that?

He is too small a fry, is he not?

partha · Post by **partha** » 08 Jul 2015 01:39

vayu tuvan wrote:
Gus wrote:Pakis did rebuff the KSA request for troops. Must have been a rude shock to KSA after all that money and support for decades. Could this zaid idiot jailing be related to that?
He is too small a fry, is he not?

But big enough (deep state man) to send a small message.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Jul 2015 02:13

Welcome to Modistan
A Maskeen Paki who call himself Syed to Satisfy Ammi's Khwab

Can one imagine David Cameron or Barack Obama or Angela Merkel or Francois Hollande making trips abroad, while their respective countries reel from blood-soaked trails of the most sinister scam? Can one imagine the leaders not succumbing to calls for resignation, when that scam leaves behind 48 unexplained deaths?Logic says they should step aside till a highest-level investigation clears the names of their party men. But the thick-skinned Indian premier is not only tight-lipped over the issue facing his country, he is also unperturbed with his cohorts telling the media that Narendra Modi need not comment on such “silly” issues.Social media savvy Modi who even tweets on Tunisia, Syria, Pakistan and Bangladesh is yet to post one word on Vyapam, whose victims include policemen, journalists, doctors, teachers, intermediaries and more, who have died in unexplained accidents, mysterious suicides and puzzling heart attacks. Modi who is currently enjoying Uzbekistan’s hospitality has nothing to offer the country trying to make sense of suspicious deaths because most of the victims were young and a vital link to the $1 billion scam.
Modi’s apologists have been diligently trying to maintain the premier’s pro-business and pro-investment image, but in the words of Ruchir Sharma, who oversees more than $25 billion as New York-based head of emerging markets at Morgan Stanley Investment Management, “India is still aspiring to be an economic miracle.” The Bharatiya Janata Party tom-tommed its transparency and political probity to come to power, as the Congress was neck-deep in various corruption quagmires. But deep-rooted favoritism and financial corruption have already exposed the ruling Hindu extremist party. The furor around fugitive ex-Indian Premier League boss Lalit Modi refuses to end. Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj’s argument that she helped the scam-tainted ex-cricket boss on humanitarian grounds as his wife was suffering from cancer has not satisfied the opposition and even some of her own colleagues. Parallel to it, the BJP’s trump card in Rajasthan, Chief Minister Vasundhra Raje, secretly supported Lalit Modi’s bid to obtain immigration documents in the UK. In Modi’s India, education is being systematically de-secularized. Irani has been accused of working to destroy reputed institutions, insult educationalists and appoint unqualified saffron functionaries on high positions.It is surprising to note the BJP leaders are using food as a weapon. NYT’s Sonia Faleiro has rightly pointed out that the BJP’s decisions threaten to make India’s children — already among the most undernourished in the world — weaker still. Madhya Pradesh has banned eggs in free meals at government schools, because eggs are a non-vegetarian food, abhorred by some Hindus.
As for the BJP’s beef ban, it is a body blow to the poor. Beef, unlike mutton and chicken, is cheap. It is an important source of protein for low-caste Dalits, and for minority communities like Muslims and Christians. Hindus consider cows sacred, but ultra-nationalists have lobbied aggressively on the issue, not out of concern for the animals — which live on garbage — but to force their religious beliefs on non-Hindus. India under Modi has seen a plethora of anti-Muslim designs. A recent one is the outrageous de-recognition of madrasas by the BJP government in Maharashtra. The ill-timed and ill-designed move has drawn outrage from Muslims and opposition parties.The Atali riot, in which a mosque was destroyed, in Haryana has followed the horror story of Muzaffarnagar in UP — pointing to the fact that the principal minority continues to be the softest and the most favorite target of pseudo nationalists.
The government’s attempts to make singing of Vande Mataram mandatory in public schools have left the principal minority livid, as Muslims do not bow to anyone other than Almighty Allah. Radical Hindu leaders such as Sadhvi Niranjan, Sadhvi Prachi, Yogi Adityanath, Pravin Togadia, Varun Gandhi and Giriraj Singh are outdoing each other in spitting venom against Muslims. Prachi took this brazenness to a new level when she publicly threatened Muslims that if devotees are attacked on their way to Hindu shrines, the Hajis will face consequences.
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Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 08 Jul 2015 02:46

This Nazir Ahmed character is very commonly found on Paki TV chat shows on anything relating to Baldania (UK). He tries to prove himself more Paki then an aam abdul. The MI 5 guys must most certainly be having him under surveillance for his pro-paki stand even when it concerns UK's national security interests.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Jul 2015 05:16

Shiv posted on twitter that Zaheel Hamid gets 50 lashes a week for 20 weeks. 7 every day and 8 on Fridin.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 08 Jul 2015 05:34

ramana wrote:Shiv posted on twitter that Zaheel Hamid gets 50 lashes a week for 20 weeks. 7 every day and 8 on Fridin.

Abb Aaya Hamid Saudi Oonth Ke Neeche!. Fun will start after Fridin when flesh will be tender, salwar wet and eyes moist.
Rotte Hue Aaya Thaa Yeh, Rotte Hue Hi Mar Jayega
50 Lashes week Khaa kar Mush yeh Apni ..wayega
Tabbhi Ghazwa Be Hind Ka Matlab isko Samajh Aayega

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 08 Jul 2015 06:08

Newspaper claims former army chief Gen Kayani stopped by FIA from leaving country for Australia

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 08 Jul 2015 06:13

Jhujar wrote:
ramana wrote:Shiv posted on twitter that Zaheel Hamid gets 50 lashes a week for 20 weeks. 7 every day and 8 on Fridin.
Abb Aaya Hamid Saudi Oonth Ke Neeche!. Fun will start after Fridin when flesh will be tender, salwar wet and eyes moist.
Rotte Hue Aaya Thaa Yeh, Rotte Hue Hi Mar Jayega
50 Lashes week Khaa kar Mush yeh Apni ..wayega
Tabbhi Ghazwa Be Hind Ka Matlab isko Samajh Aayega

Lashes are administered for maxximuum kruelty. You cant really set a schedule like that. An inspekshun is performed to make shure the wouunds of previous lashing have sort of healed before kreating the wounds again. Also, given the number of lashings and limited lashers, it was generally understood that it was sort of once a week affair. Lash until no skin left, then, ...next!

Zahil has made a zoke-er-e-himselph. The rest of the conspiracy-e-corpus-kommandu are just that. Empty canals-bin-bund of hope. Nobody cares tu hoots re zahil-e-hameed any more than the randum acts of bakistani-heads-tumbling din that ij everi fridin in saoodi. le joker-e-laard bin najeer is acting on paid family ephorts or via lokal community-e-bradfordabad.

Iph there were to be a konspirasy it would be that zahil is an miXX asset than for EyeGadhaEye. The deep estate is akchually kwite schallow.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 08 Jul 2015 06:18

Christian Woman Sentenced to Death in Pakistan for Using Muslims' Cup

Supporters of Bibi are calling on the U.S. to use the approximately $900 million in annual foreign aid it provides Pakistan as leverage to obtain justice for Bibi and others suffering under the Muslim nation's Draconian blasphemy laws.

Case is old and must have been reported early also ; still languishing in jail since 2010

Supporters of Bibi are calling on the U.S. [*]to use the approximately $900 million in annual foreign aid it provides Pakistan as leverage to obtain justice for Bibi and others suffering under the Muslim nation's Draconian blasphemy laws.

[*][*]Nothing is going to happen ; probably die in jail

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 08 Jul 2015 06:20

Falijee wrote:Newspaper claims former army chief Gen Kayani stopped by FIA from leaving country for Australia

Old and irrelevant neuj by the look of it. Although bakis limiting the damaje from getting "bakis out of containments" except via containers is gud neuj for the rest of us.

Rayheel may not want to estep down given egg-jam-apple of mushy and kiyanahi. That would be a good thing two. Any one recall when his shift ends?

ps -- that woman and cup bidness is recycled two. And the cup had little two do with it.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 08 Jul 2015 07:15

http://www.dawn.com/news/1193106/no-evi ... t-minister
"No evidence about JuD’s links with LeT: minister"

ISLAMABAD: The government has ruled out the possibility of proscribing Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) in the near future and says there is no evidence of the charity organisation having been formed in place of the outlawed Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).

Minister for States and Frontier Region retired Gen Abdul Qadir Baloch told the Senate on behalf of Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan during the question hour on Tuesday that the United Nations Security Council had in a resolution listed the JuD as LeT with a new name, but no supporting evidence had been shared with Pakistan to establish the connection.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 08 Jul 2015 07:24

Falijee wrote:As a British LArd, is he allowed to interfere in the domestics matters of Pakiland :-? Was prior permission from House of Lords obtained ? Back channel used by the Pakis ?

Most likely LARD saahib he has dual nationality- permissible under the laws of both the nations.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 08 Jul 2015 07:27

No pinglish in TSP thread please. One or two words here and there is okay. Our usual words (TFTA/SDRE/RAPE/musharraf etc) are okay. Lets not substitute neuj for news and such. Lets keep this thread professional and reserve it for analyzing and cataloguing TSP news.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 08 Jul 2015 08:07

Vipul wrote:This Nazir Ahmed character is very commonly found on Paki TV chat shows on anything relating to Baldania (UK). He tries to prove himself more Paki then an aam abdul. The MI 5 guys must most certainly be having him under surveillance for his pro-paki stand even when it concerns UK's national security interests.

No. No need for surveillance. Mard-e-momeen like him is most likely also a part time informer for the MI5. This way he can also prove his loyalty to the crown simultaneously.
Gautam

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 08 Jul 2015 08:49

Jhujar wrote:Welcome to Modistan
A Maskeen Paki who call himself Syed to Satisfy Ammi's Khwab

What an odious fart this mofo is!
His inner pakistaniyat is being displayed in its full glory. The other writings of his are equally flush worthy

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Jul 2015 09:38

somebody needs to do neurosurgery on the pakjabi 'syed' brain and find out how wiring doesn't short out despite glaring double-standards. While Indians must be scrupulously secular, Syeds can be freely hypocritical, double-talking and maintain double standards all the while.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 08 Jul 2015 10:06

Haroun Rashid ‏@HarounRashid2
Pak hockey captain blamed poor diet- "naan chollay eaters"- for debacle. Jokes aside, he has a point. #hockey

arun · Post by **arun** » 08 Jul 2015 10:28

^^^ Who needs Rooh Afza, Kajoor or Channa Daal when eating Grass and Leaves was opted for?

Hockey Captain of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Muhammad Imran in a news item datelined 8th July 2015:

“Hum Rooh Afza aur Khajooro par, naan channay khaa kar world champions nahi ban saktay,”

From here:

Can’t qualify for Olympics eating Channa and Khajoor: Imran

Going back in history, executed Prime Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Zulfiquar Ali Bhutto’s boast:

“If India builds the bomb, we will eat grass or leaves, even go hungry, but we will get one of our own”

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Jul 2015 10:35

arre he is talking about observing fast on ramzan, being true religious syed et al and all that.

So they deserve it + 1000 saudi pak lashes for demeaning holy ramzan. Wajib ul qatl and taliban TTP football material.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 08 Jul 2015 11:31

Jhujar wrote: . . .50 Lashes week Khaa kar Mush yeh Apni ..wayega
Tabbhi Ghazwa Be Hind Ka Matlab isko Samajh Aayega

Wah ! Wah !!