Bharat Rakshak

UlanBatori wrote:BTW, u see that in Mosul, the US media / UN flunkies report that ISIS has taken civilians hostage as human shields. But in Aleppo, the Moderate Islamic Terrorists are just covering the civilians to protect them from Russian airstrikes. No human shield business. They are shelling the exits that the Syrians/Russians have opened up, of course, to 'protect' the civilians and save them the trouble of leaving Aleppo.

Singha wrote:Peshmerga trooper plays music for a exhausted iraqi sof trooper

https://mobile.twitter.com/KadhimWaeli/ ... 24/photo/1

TSJones wrote:the people of Alepo are not daesh and they are not rounding up men and children and executing them.
your politics are stomping out your morals rather successfully it seems.

IndraD wrote:preparations afoot for military/more sanctions on Sy
'Syria blamed for chemical weapons attack in 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37736184

The Security Council backed up the agreement with a resolution that if Syria did not comply, it could face sanctions or military action under Chapter 7 of the UN Charter.'

TSJones wrote: the people of Alepo are not daesh and they are not rounding up men and children and executing them.
your politics are stomping out your morals rather successfully it seems.

Singha wrote: Navstéva ‏@Navsteva
Ahrar al-Sham publicly executed on 14 local self-gov’t officials who called on people to use the humanitarian corridors to leave E. Aleppo

TSJones wrote:

UlanBatori wrote:BTW, u see that in Mosul, the US media / UN flunkies report that ISIS has taken civilians hostage as human shields. But in Aleppo, the Moderate Islamic Terrorists are just covering the civilians to protect them from Russian airstrikes. No human shield business. They are shelling the exits that the Syrians/Russians have opened up, of course, to 'protect' the civilians and save them the trouble of leaving Aleppo.

the people of Alepo are not daesh and they are not rounding up men and children and executing them.

your politics are stomping out your morals rather successfully it seems.

Compare the coverage of Mosul and East Aleppo and it tells you a lot about the propaganda we consume.
In both countries, two large Sunni Arab urban centres – East Aleppo in Syria and Mosul in Iraq – are being besieged by pro-government forces strongly supported by foreign airpower. Yet the coverage is very different

MOSCOW, October 22. /TASS/. The Russian president’s Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov is confident a breakup of Syria may have catastrophic consequences for that region.

"Syria’s territory should be liberated," he said in an interview with the Vesti V Subbotu weekly television program on Saturday. "And everything should be done to hinder the breakup of that country into any parts, which may have most catastrophic consequences for the region."

In a comment on the Russian base in Syria’s Tartus, he said "it is not a goal, but means to achieve the goal."

"And the goal, which the president voiced in the very beginning, is assistance to the Syrian legitimate authorities in fighting terrorism, in fighting IS and other terrorist organizations," he said.

UlanBatori wrote:

TSJones wrote:
the people of Alepo are not daesh and they are not rounding up men and children and executing them.

your politics are stomping out your morals rather successfully it seems.

And yours are perhaps blinding you, making it unable to read and comprehend? The US-backed, US-funded, US-armed and US-trained Islamic terrorists in Aleppo are shelling the exit corridors to prevent people from leaving. No wasting one bullet per person, they are just blowing them limbs off, men, women, children. And it appears that you consider that to be completely "moral"?

IndraD wrote:In comparison US has 10 aircraft carriers ^ !
RU has far more number of other navy vessels, compared with US
Navy > Corvette warships 70
Navy > Submarines 17

But US has vastly superior air force in terms of fighter jets & attack helis

Austin wrote:Kuznetsov Battle Group Caught in Rough Sea , Caught from Camera on the Carrier

IndraD wrote:In comparison US has 10 aircraft carriers ^ !
RU has far more number of other navy vessels, compared with US
Navy > Corvette warships 70
Navy > Submarines 17

But US has vastly superior air force in terms of fighter jets & attack helis

TSJones wrote:

IndraD wrote:In comparison US has 10 aircraft carriers ^ !
RU has far more number of other navy vessels, compared with US
Navy > Corvette warships 70
Navy > Submarines 17

But US has vastly superior air force in terms of fighter jets & attack helis

heh, heh, giggle.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... tates_Navy

http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/ric ... the-world/

In criticising the Russian and Syrian operations in Aleppo, the US has set itself and the Iraqi government a near impossible task in the battle for Mosul: can they take the Iraqi city without civilian casualties?

US Secretary of State John Kerry set the standard for capturing cities in the Middle East at his joint press conference with UK Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson a week ago. He said he was deeply disturbed and outraged by what was happening in Aleppo. The siege and bombings were "a humanitarian disaster". They could stop tomorrow if Russia and the Assad regime behaved according to any norm or any standard of decency.

In their press briefings State Department officials had earlier outlined what was required with spokesman John Kirby saying on October 11 that civilians shouldn't have to leave Aleppo and they shouldn't be bombed by the Russians or the Syrian government.

Six days later, as the American-backed Iraqi government campaign to take Mosul began, another State Department spokesman, Mark Toner, wasn't ruling out Mosul's evacuation. In answer to a direct question comparing the two situations, he said it was not a question of whether the US thought civilians should or should not have to leave Mosul. The US recognised the fact that they would have to deal with displaced civilians.

There is no question that many civilians have died in the battles that have been raging in Aleppo.

Currently the city is split in two, with the government controlling the western sector where 1.5 million people live and the insurgents controlling the eastern sector, where an estimated 300,000 people live.

The problem for the Syrian government and the Russians is that the rebels, who include the Al-Nusra Front, foreign Jihadist fighters and what the Americans call "the moderate opposition", are intermingled with the civilian population.

Weapons supplied by the US to the moderates in recent years have ended up in the hands of al-Nusra, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda.

There is no clean-cut way to fight this out.

The American-backed Iraqi forces trying to capture Mosul will encounter the same problem.The Islamic State fighters will not disentangle themselves from the civilian population.The choice is: try to take Mosul or Aleppo and risk civilian casualties, or leave the cities to the jihadists.

If, as the Americans seem to be saying, eastern Aleppo is controlled by moderates, the Americans could, of course, save civilian lives by getting these moderates to lay down their arms or allow the civilians to leave.

But as Kerry well knows, any such proposal would be rejected by the jihadists who will wage war to the bitter end.

In describing the Syrian government and Russians' actions as "crimes against humanity" Kerry entered dangerous territory.

The description invites examination of how this tragedy began – the 2003 American, British and Australian invasion of Iraq.If anything is a crime against humanity, this is it.

The invasion was based on the false claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It was not sanctioned by the United Nations and according to the Iraq Body Count, has cost 250,000 lives, including 165,368 to 184,184 civilians.

We can start to believe that Kerry is seriously concerned about prosecuting war criminals when he moves to have former US president George W. Bush, former British prime minister Tony Blair and former Australian prime minister John Howard taken into custody.

For all their faults – and there are many crimes for which they could be tried – neither Syrian President Bashar al-Assad nor former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein supported al-Qaeda.

The crimes for which Saddam Hussein could most clearly have been prosecuted occurred in the 1980s when he was seen as a US ally and used chemical weapons in the Iraq-Iran war and massacred Kurds in Halabja.

We now know that former US presidents Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush authorised the sale to Iraq of poisonous chemicals and deadly biological viruses, such as anthrax and bubonic plague.

If Kerry wants to look into war crimes he could also look back to 1971when he was a member of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Not only did the US bomb civilians in Vietnam, they dropped napalm, killing and maiming people, and poured defoliants out of the skies devastating the countryside.

And if we're talking about the sanctity of civilian lives what about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? No. This is not a topic for US leaders to pontificate on.

With their history the Russians must be nonplussed by the suggestion that civilians do not die in war, or that sieges should not be used to defeat an enemy.

The siege of Leningrad took an estimated 1,500,000 lives. (One cemetery alone in the city holds half a million civilian victims.) The battle for Stalingrad – the major turning point in World War II – cost the Soviet Union more than 1 million casualties.

Antony Beevor in his book Stalingrad reports that 9796 civilians lived through the fighting in the battlefield ruins. They included 994 children of whom only nine were reunited with their parents.

The best we can hope for in the current battles in Mosul and Aleppo is that they reach a quick conclusion.

Regrettably Hillary Clinton sees the Russians as having worked against her in her presidential campaign.

She and her advisers are using Cold-War rhetoric to win votes, accusing the Russians of hacking and leaking her emails in an effort to get Donald Trump elected.

With this mindset it is unlikely that Clinton, who supported the US invasion of Iraq, will re-direct Kerry to work constructively with the Russians to defeat the jihadists in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere.

Turkey has insisted that its forces cannot remain idle during the fight to drive so-called Islamic State militants from the Iraqi city of Mosul.
PM Binali Yildirim said it might be necessary to take action because Iraq and the US had not kept their promises.
He said both countries had allowed Shia militias and Kurdish separatists to take part in the operation.

Erdogan: Turkey did not 'willingly' accept its borders

"Young people, look. The Republic [of Turkey] is not our first, but last state. Let me say that we have not accepted these borders willingly. Lest be forgotten, even some of the territories the founding cadres of the Republic were born in were left out of the borders of our new state," said the Turkish President.
Turkey's founder and first President Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was born in the Greek city of Thessaloniki which was then still under Ottoman rule.
"We might have had to say 'yes' to [the news borders] so as to compose ourselves and breath a little with the influence of long-lived wars and continuous losses, but we are against the design of the state and society based on the sacrifice given in the controversial circumstances of the time. It is time to leave this behind,"continued Erdogan.

Oct. 20, 2016 (EIRNS)—New York University professor Stephen F. Cohen told radio host John Batchelor on Oct. 18 that Vice President Joe Biden’s threat of cyberwar against Russia, during a weekend TV appearance, "stunned" Moscow. According to a summary published in The Nation, the Kremlin spokesman and commentators in Moscow denounced Biden’s challenge as a virtual "American declaration of war on Russia" and as the first ever in history. Biden’s statement, which clearly had been planned by the White House, could scarcely have been more dangerous or reckless, especially considering that there is no actual evidence or logic for the two allegations against Russia that seem to have prompted it, including alleged hacking, reports a summary of Cohen’s radio interview published in The Nation.

Cohen, reports the summary, points out that, in fact, no actual evidence for this allegation has been produced, only suppositions or, as Glenn Greenwald has argued, "unproven assertions." MIT professor Theodore Postol has written that there is

"no technical way that the U.S. intelligence community could know who did the hacking if it was done by sophisticated nation-state actors."

Instead, Cohen suggests,

"the charges, leveled daily by the Clinton campaign as part of its McCarthyite Kremlin-baiting of Donald Trump, are mostly political, and he laments the way U.S. intelligence officials have permitted themselves to be used for this unprofessional purpose."

An intelligence expert pointed out to EIR that the use of the word "confident" by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson, in their Oct. 7 statement accusing Russia of hacking into U.S. election systems and email accounts, indicates that, in fact, there is about a 55-45 split within the intelligence community on that conclusion, showing that there is widespread disagreement about who was actually responsible for the hacks.