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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 14:13
by Manish_P
chetak wrote:the pakis seem to be getting a grammatical erection over the usage of the word "geoeconomics"

what does it even mean
Chetak saar ^ Pesh-a-kidmat

Pakistan’s Geoeconomic Delusions
The country says it wants to pivot from hard power to economic power, but its economy begs to differ.

In recent weeks, senior Pakistani officials, including the country’s powerful army chief, have signaled or outright said that, from now on, their country’s foreign policy will emphasize geoeconomics. This is a welcome rhetorical shift. Decades of bartering Pakistan’s geostrategic value—including as a “front-line state” in the Cold War and war on terror—has contributed to the loss of countless lives, stifled human development, and turned Pakistan into a heavily indebted security state.

Geoeconomics would flip that script. Definitions of the term vary, but Pakistani officialdom uses it to connote something akin to an end to war. :?: :roll: In a public address last month, Pakistani Chief of the Army Staff Gen. Qamar Javed Bajwa offered a “geo-economic vision” that centers regional integration and the collective pursuit of sustainable development in an environment of peace and stability.

But good intentions aside, Pakistan’s pivot toward geoeconomics is likely to hit a brick wall of reality—and fast.

For starters, the country cannot easily escape geopolitics. And the regional outlook portends conflict, not connectivity. Neighboring Afghanistan could see civil war as the United States departs. And despite the restoration of a cease-fire with India along the Line of Control, there are no signs that either side will make the kinds of concessions on the Kashmir dispute that would be essential for lasting normalization. Then there’s the U.S.-Chinese cold war, which shows no sign of abating in the Biden era. Islamabad depends on Beijing for essential military hardware to deter New Delhi as Washington arms New Delhi to counterbalance Beijing. Although the United States has provided Pakistan with more than $3 billion in arms since 9/11, those transfers have dropped significantly since 2016. Meanwhile, Washington seems to have not only lost interest in Pakistan but also sees the country as firmly in China’s sway.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 16:36
by anupmisra
In paki-speak of the past, "geo-strategic" location meant that its land was the physical center of the known universe, and hence, by extension, a front-line state for all the solutions to global problems (read - Aghanistan, Middle-east, Israel/Arab issues, Oil, and of course, peace through "ijlamic nooclear bums"). This implied, by extension, that the pakis deserved to be at the table of every important global forum.

Based on the arab birathers' 1000% support, a vibrant economy, a highly educated workforce, and the wonders of SeePack, the now revised Qureshi-double speak of being a "geo-economic power center" implies (in their acid-infused flighty minds) that the paki land is the natural center of the global economy and all the trade caravans obviously pass through it. This implies, by extension, the pakis deserve to collect tolls and commissions.

The next step in their natural evolution, pakis will claim to be the neo-geo-spiritual center of the world. Wait till they claim that Yoga is a product of their land.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 16:44
by Aditya_V
Actually, Pakis are the world's problem , solving it by dividing it and slowly taking necessary steps will solve this cancer

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 18:38
by kit
Manish_P wrote:
chetak wrote:the pakis seem to be getting a grammatical erection over the usage of the word "geoeconomics"

what does it even mean
Chetak saar ^ Pesh-a-kidmat

Pakistan’s Geoeconomic Delusions
The country says it wants to pivot from hard power to economic power, but its economy begs to differ.

Geoeconomics would flip that script. Definitions of the term vary, but Pakistani officialdom uses it to connote something akin to an end to war. :?: :roll: In a public address last month, Pakistani Chief of the Army Staff Gen. Qamar Javed Bajwa offered a “geo-economic vision” that centers regional integration and the collective pursuit of sustainable development in an environment of peace and stability.
Geoeconomics = freebies due to their "geographic position"

Wiki says "there is no widely accepted singular definition of geoeconomics as distinct from geopolitics."

However when geoeconomics term is used, freebies are definitely implied :mrgreen:

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 19:02
by Manish_P
This is the perfect explanation
anupmisra wrote:In paki-speak of the past, "geo-strategic" location meant that its land was the physical center of the known universe, and hence, by extension, a front-line state for all the solutions to global problems (read - Aghanistan, Middle-east, Israel/Arab issues, Oil, and of course, peace through "ijlamic nooclear bums"). This implied, by extension, that the pakis deserved to be at the table of every important global forum.

Based on the arab birathers' 1000% support, a vibrant economy, a highly educated workforce, and the wonders of SeePack, the now revised Qureshi-double speak of being a "geo-economic power center" implies (in their acid-infused flighty minds) that the paki land is the natural center of the global economy and all the trade caravans obviously pass through it. This implies, by extension, the pakis deserve to collect tolls and commissions.
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Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 21:55
by chetak
Manish_P wrote:This is the perfect explanation
anupmisra wrote:In paki-speak of the past, "geo-strategic" location meant that its land was the physical center of the known universe, and hence, by extension, a front-line state for all the solutions to global problems (read - Aghanistan, Middle-east, Israel/Arab issues, Oil, and of course, peace through "ijlamic nooclear bums"). This implied, by extension, that the pakis deserved to be at the table of every important global forum.

Based on the arab birathers' 1000% support, a vibrant economy, a highly educated workforce, and the wonders of SeePack, the now revised Qureshi-double speak of being a "geo-economic power center" implies (in their acid-infused flighty minds) that the paki land is the natural center of the global economy and all the trade caravans obviously pass through it. This implies, by extension, the pakis deserve to collect tolls and commissions.
...
saar, you forgot to mention that they speak much better english than us SDREs

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 21:57
by CalvinH
Here is Pakis Inflation situation 2018 vs late 2020

Sugar PKR 55/kg to PKR 100/Kg
Flour PKR 35/kg to PKR 70/Kg
Electricity PKR 11/unit to PKR 25/unit

The prices for many core areas such as essential medicines have gone up 5x. Prices of seasonal fruit and vegetables keep spiking every now and then. India should not export anything to Pakis.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 21:58
by sanjaykumar
And they are master debaters as well as cunning linguists.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 22:04
by kancha
Wonder how many still remember the naked 'victory' dance in 2015 by the same Paki Hockey players and the middle fingers they showed to Indian spectators and media after winning a match, which led to Hockey India severing all ties with them. Yup, some chutzpah they have in suggesting that hockey ties be revived for financial benefit to BOTH federations!
Link

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 22:14
by sanjaykumar
The Africans say ‘be careful of the naked man who gives you a shirt’.

That is Pakistan described with perfection.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 23:22
by Anujan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLxWUjNKw60

That video is worth listening to. Dont bother countering the numerous ill informed, false and propergandu claims in the video, it will take reams and reams of pages. Instead, it is worth listening to, to figure out the delusions that typical Paki "strategic geostrategy" types have. I think it is based on a few things:

Pakis feel they are the rightful "martial" heir to the British Empire. The British Empire had a sphere of influence from Egypt to Singapore with India as a center. If Russia were weaker, they would also have central asian countries within their sphere. Now that the British are gone, and Pakis are their rightful heir, Pakis want a sphere of influence from Egypt, to Central Asian Countries to Singapore

This is all very good and great, I commend them for the vision. Sometimes, I wish India had similar bombast.

But there is a small fly in the ointment. Right from the Mughal days, the Mughal rulers were very very good at extraction, not production. The taxes on peasants were among the highest in the world. That continues today. It even started from Jinnah's time

What plans did he have for the industrial development of the country? Did he hope to enlist technical or financial assistance from America?

"America needs Pakistan more than Pakistan needs America," was Jinnah's reply. "Pakistan is the pivot of the world, as we are placed" -- he revolved his long forefinger in bony circles -- "the frontier on which the future position of the world revolves." He leaned toward me, dropping his voice to a confidential note. "Russia," confided Mr. Jinnah, "is not so very far away."
This was from Margaret Bourke-White in 1947!! The same geostrategy nonsense goes on today. Essentially their entire strategy is based on highway banditry. "We will sit here and cause trouble till everyone pays us off".

Take the simple case of Pakistan's textile exports. 60% of their exports is from textiles. This has been true from 1947! 75 years later, they import cotton from Egypt/India and textile machinery from India* (I dont know if people here know, most Pakistan textile machinery is from Lakshmi Machine Works in Coimbatore! SDRE machines doing TFTA textiles :rotfl: ). Why cant they set up a textile machinery plant? Because they are busy doing geostrategy.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 23:29
by Anujan
Another sentiment in that video is "When Afghan problem is over, Pakistan and Afghanistan will become friends and unless India gives Cashmere to Pakistan, we will prevent India from accessing central Asia!!!"

Afghanistan problem will never be over. Let me tell you why:

Pakistan has had an Afghanistan problem since 1947!!

Afghanistan said "If princely states can join India or Pakistan, Pashtuns should join Afghanistan" (They wanted NWFP). Since then they have repeatedly made claims to NWFP (now KP) province. In 1955, Afghan mobs ransacked Pakistani consulate and Pakistani mobs ransacked afghan consulate. This went on and on and on, till Pakis used the Cold war to get rid of Afghan nationalist leadership and install Islamist leadership in Afghanistan.

That policy continues to this day.

Afghanistan cannot have a nationalist government, they can only have an Islamist government. The moment they have a nationalist government, they will start demanding durrand line be abolished, and dams be built on rivers from Afghanistan.

But Islamist government can never be stable! They either overreach by bombing the west, or they are not very good at basic services like picking up the trash and building power plants. So at the end of the current taliban rapprochement, Afghanistan will have an Islamist government. (Pakistan's no 1 demand is that Ashraf Ghani be removed).

Pakistan has two choices. Have an Islamist government in Afghanistan and a festering refugee/economic problem in Afghanistan. Or have a nationalist government in Afghanistan, which pursues its own self interest vis-a-vis alliances and trade.

The third option is to conquer Afghanistan. That can be done only if there is peace with India.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 23:37
by V_Raman
anujanji the first option of - have an islamist govt in afg is really - have an islamist govt in afg that might eventually consume pakistan itself - that is the danger for them

so pak might have no choice but to sue for peace with india

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 23:58
by anupmisra
Anujan wrote:I dont know if people here know, most Pakistan textile machinery is from Lakshmi Machine Works in Coimbatore!
So, there's an image of Goddess Lakshmi in every paki textile mill? (Check out the LMW logo https://www.lmwglobal.com/about.html).

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 00:17
by Bart S
Well, even the Islamists (including the Taliban sitting in Pakistan) are on record stating that they do not recognize the Durand line, so having an Islamist govt in Afg is no guarantee that Pakis will be safe from Afghan-NWFP merger.

Also, the delusional Pakjabis (with egos inflated by piggy-backing on the Americans during the cold war) name their weapons after Afghans, though the worst atrocities when those very same Afghan 'herrows' invaded India happened in Pakjab to their own ancestors.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 01:53
by Bart S
Anujan wrote:Another sentiment in that video is "When Afghan problem is over, Pakistan and Afghanistan will become friends and unless India gives Cashmere to Pakistan, we will prevent India from accessing central Asia!!!"
That is another delusion by the Paki types, not just by the certifiable nutjobs like Shahid Raza in that interview (who is a well known laughingstock in Indian defense twitter circles due to his ridiculous assertions) but by people like Moeed Yusuf.

Central Asia at best is a miniscule market for India, sure India would be happy to trade with them with an easier route, but hardly something that India covets or craves, certainly not enough to make concessions to Pakis for. On the other hand, it is the Indian market that Central Asian countries and Afghanistan desperately want to access, and the bigger loser from such tactical brilliance is Pakistan itself which loses any so-called 'geostrategic' importance that it could gain from being a gateway to the massive Indian market.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 03:15
by SBajwa
kancha wrote:
Wonder how many still remember the naked 'victory' dance in 2015 by the same Paki Hockey players and the middle fingers they showed to Indian spectators and media after winning a match, which led to Hockey India severing all ties with them. Yup, some chutzpah they have in suggesting that hockey ties be revived for financial benefit to BOTH federations!
Link

Off course. Why should we play with them? They need to play with teams closer to their ranks. Baki Men's hockey team is now rated below France, Ireland,Canada, etc at 17.

1 BELGIUM 2602.319
2 AUSTRALIA 2489.583
3 GERMANY 2254.484
4 NETHERLANDS 2232.556
5 INDIA 2164.104
6 ARGENTINA 1982.774
7 ENGLAND 1836.853
8 NEW ZEALAND 1680.084
9 SPAIN 1653.861
10 CANADA 1517.368
11 MALAYSIA 1418.000
12 FRANCE 1318.000
13 IRELAND 1293.000
14 SOUTH AFRICA 1260.059
15 JAPAN 1105.000
16 KOREA 1065.000
17 PAKISTAN 1010.000
18 WALES 949.836

Indian women's hockey team is rated at 9. while Baki women are at 62. between Paraguay and Egypt.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 03:29
by RCase
anupmisra wrote:
Anujan wrote:I dont know if people here know, most Pakistan textile machinery is from Lakshmi Machine Works in Coimbatore!
So, there's an image of Goddess Lakshmi in every paki textile mill? (Check out the LMW logo https://www.lmwglobal.com/about.html).
What you mean to say is that every burqa, shalwar kameez produced will be blessed by feminine Shakti! Evil banias.... Wow... halal... AoA! Now awaiting the pious momeens to unleash their bats and rods on these kufr machines. :twisted:

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 04:44
by Vips
Anujan wrote: I dont know if people here know, most Pakistan textile machinery is from Lakshmi Machine Works in Coimbatore! SDRE machines doing TFTA textiles :rotfl: ). Why cant they set up a textile machinery plant? Because they are busy doing geostrategy.
Anujanji, you are forgetting that for making Textile machinery plant, you require capabilities in designing, machine tools manufacturing and R&D abilities. Rest assured Pakis are not even capable of making a "make in paksitan" label.

There are so many examples we have seen of what is the real ability of paki scholars or engineers and technicians.

The paki hydro 'experts' were not able to make sense of dam and power plant designs when they were in arbitration against India for the Kishan Ganga project and had to hire a Gora expert from Europe to draft points for arguments against India which the Gora expert said cannot be argued against!!!

I will be soon posting a Youtube discussion where analysis of the thesis of the PHD students selected as top scholars from the country by Higher Education commision of pakistan was done and it was really :rotfl:

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 07:14
by manjgu
CalvinH wrote:Here is Pakis Inflation situation 2018 vs late 2020

Sugar PKR 55/kg to PKR 100/Kg
Flour PKR 35/kg to PKR 70/Kg
Electricity PKR 11/unit to PKR 25/unit

The prices for many core areas such as essential medicines have gone up 5x. Prices of seasonal fruit and vegetables keep spiking every now and then. India should not export anything to Pakis.
but india is exporting medicines to paxistan ..why? whats the volume of pharama exports to paxistan?

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 07:16
by Anujan
anupmisra wrote:
Anujan wrote:I dont know if people here know, most Pakistan textile machinery is from Lakshmi Machine Works in Coimbatore!
So, there's an image of Goddess Lakshmi in every paki textile mill? (Check out the LMW logo https://www.lmwglobal.com/about.html).

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 10:46
by Paul
kancha wrote:
Wonder how many still remember the naked 'victory' dance in 2015 by the same Paki Hockey players and the middle fingers they showed to Indian spectators and media after winning a match, which led to Hockey India severing all ties with them. Yup, some chutzpah they have in suggesting that hockey ties be revived for financial benefit to BOTH federations!
Link
In the next match, they lost humiliatingly to Germany and the Germans also taunted them on the field with full support of the Delhi crowd. Caused a lot of angst amongst the Pakis on social media.

This must be why they are asking for matches to be played on neutral venues.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 11:06
by CalvinH
V_Raman wrote:anujanji the first option of - have an islamist govt in afg is really - have an islamist govt in afg that might eventually consume pakistan itself - that is the danger for them

so pak might have no choice but to sue for peace with india

Pakis have used the Islamist terrorist like Taliban to balance the Pashtun nationalist on both sides of the border. Another tactical brilliance.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 11:12
by CalvinH
Anujan wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLxWUjNKw60

That video is worth listening to. Dont bother countering the numerous ill informed, false and propergandu claims in the video, it will take reams and reams of pages. Instead, it is worth listening to, to figure out the delusions that typical Paki "strategic geostrategy" types have. I think it is based on a few things:
Wah wah...The guy looks like no-topi fake accent version of Lal topi. I was hoping he would say ki Pawri ho rahi hai in the same accent...but i was asking for too much

I am glad to see that Pakis are producing such analyst. More power to them.Hope their tribe multiplies.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 14:30
by chetak
x posted from the political thread


here is the paki and ameriki deep state game plan that is fast unravelling

note particularly, the "pandemic response co-operation"

given niazi khan and bajwa's credibility, there is absolutely no reason for India to play ball.


via@Cold_Peace_
"Pakistan’s army chief has launched talks with nemesis India to secure an eventual meeting between the neighboring countries’ PMs...next steps include reopening border trade, pandemic response co-operation and India’s participation in an anti-terror drill to be held in Pakistan."

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 16:13
by RKumar
^ what is there for us? Why would Modiji meet Im the Dim? He should have given a thought before tweeting all those non-sense against "nemesis" India? :rotfl:

Free illegal PoK, no free lunch for NaPak!

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 16:45
by Manish_P
Like their hockey birathers, the Paki football feds now can start begging as Jihadistan has been kicked out by FIFA... again

FIFA suspends PFF with immediate effect over 'third-party inference'
FIFA on Wednesday suspended the Pakistan Football Federation (PFF) with immediate effect due to third-party interference.

In a statement, the global body said that third-party inference was a serious violation of the FIFA statutes.

"This situation was prompted by the recent hostile takeover of the PFF headquarters in Lahore by a group of protestors and an alleged decision by certain individuals to remove the FIFA-appointed normalisation committee of the PFF led by Haroon Malik and to hand over the leadership of the PFF to Syed Ashfaq Hussain Shah," the statement added.

The suspension will only be lifted once FIFA has received conformation from the normalisation committee stating that its premises, accounts, administration and communication channels are again under its full control and it can continue to carry out its mandate without further hindrance.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 22:41
by CalvinH
manjgu wrote:
CalvinH wrote:Here is Pakis Inflation situation 2018 vs late 2020

Sugar PKR 55/kg to PKR 100/Kg
Flour PKR 35/kg to PKR 70/Kg
Electricity PKR 11/unit to PKR 25/unit

The prices for many core areas such as essential medicines have gone up 5x. Prices of seasonal fruit and vegetables keep spiking every now and then. India should not export anything to Pakis.
but india is exporting medicines to paxistan ..why? whats the volume of pharama exports to paxistan?
Not anymore. The medicines may be routed through ME.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 07 Apr 2021 22:56
by kancha
Paul wrote:
kancha wrote:
Wonder how many still remember the naked 'victory' dance in 2015 by the same Paki Hockey players and the middle fingers they showed to Indian spectators and media after winning a match, which led to Hockey India severing all ties with them. Yup, some chutzpah they have in suggesting that hockey ties be revived for financial benefit to BOTH federations!
Link
In the next match, they lost humiliatingly to Germany and the Germans also taunted them on the field with full support of the Delhi crowd. Caused a lot of angst amongst the Pakis on social media.

This must be why they are asking for matches to be played on neutral venues.
Oh, it was all an Indian Conspiracy to ensure that Pakistan loses the final match! THAT'S the reason why a huge issue was made of a 'natural' reaction of the Paki players and the coach too was forced to tender an apology which he wouldn't have otherwise offered!
I kid you not!
Link

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 01:19
by anupmisra
Critics of Pakistan's armed forces to face jail time, Rs500,000 fine under new bill
Critics of Pakistan's armed forces to face two years in jail, fine worth up to Rs500,000 or both, as per new criminal law amendment bill.
Pakistan's armed forces and their personnel would be free from any deliberate ridicule, insult, and defamation under the criminal law amendment bill.
Critics of the Pakistani armed forces would face trial in a civil court, according to the criminal law amendment bill.
Haraam link: https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/81629 ... r-new-bill

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 03:36
by CalvinH
anupmisra wrote:Critics of Pakistan's armed forces to face jail time, Rs500,000 fine under new bill
Critics of Pakistan's armed forces to face two years in jail, fine worth up to Rs500,000 or both, as per new criminal law amendment bill.
Pakistan's armed forces and their personnel would be free from any deliberate ridicule, insult, and defamation under the criminal law amendment bill.
Critics of the Pakistani armed forces would face trial in a civil court, according to the criminal law amendment bill.
Haraam link: https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/81629 ... r-new-bill
Mashallah!...Pakistan is taking the right steps to get out of the main problem Pakistan is facing today. The problem of bad perception.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 03:52
by Vips
Manish_P wrote:Like their hockey birathers, the Paki football feds now can start begging as Jihadistan has been kicked out by FIFA... again

FIFA suspends PFF with immediate effect over 'third-party inference'
FIFA on Wednesday suspended the Pakistan Football Federation (PFF) with immediate effect due to third-party interference.

In a statement, the global body said that third-party inference was a serious violation of the FIFA statutes.

"This situation was prompted by the recent hostile takeover of the PFF headquarters in Lahore by a group of protestors and an alleged decision by certain individuals to remove the FIFA-appointed normalisation committee of the PFF led by Haroon Malik and to hand over the leadership of the PFF to Syed Ashfaq Hussain Shah," the statement added.

The suspension will only be lifted once FIFA has received conformation from the normalisation committee stating that its premises, accounts, administration and communication channels are again under its full control and it can continue to carry out its mandate without further hindrance.
And like the true Pigs they are: A retired Paki Brigadier in a Paki talk show was feeling sorry not for the humiliation of Pakistan by FIFA but because it meant that pakistan would not get the annual grant of $1.6 million.

Masha-arrah: True and Commited Bhikaris.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 03:57
by srikandan
CalvinH: Mashallah!...Pakistan is taking the right steps to get out of the main problem Pakistan is facing today. The problem of bad perception.
Always gratifying to see Bakistan accurately nail the root cause of their problems. As Manmohan Singh said "<inaudible>"

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 05:17
by anupmisra
Vips wrote:A retired Paki Brigadier in a Paki talk show was feeling sorry not for the humiliation of Pakistan by FIFA but because it meant that pakistan would not get the annual grant of $1.6 million.

Masha-arrah: True and Commited Bhikaris.
PoFF managers should demand that paki players be allowed to play in the Indian Super League. That will help them make up for the loss of $1.6M in annual grants.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 11:25
by partha
https://www.dawn.com/news/1617047/pakis ... es-forward
RED ZONE FILES: Pakistan-India backchannel move inches forward
According to high-level sources, the engagement process started way back in 2018. Relevant people at an appropriate level of seniority in both capitals initiated contacts and began to quietly speak to each other in order to reduce tension and enhance prospects of calibrated normalcy. This process continued till August 2019 when India took the unilateral step of abrogating Article 370 and converting Occupied Kashmir into union territory. As a result of this extreme step, the process of engagement between Islamabad and New Delhi came to a sudden stop.
This must have shocked the Pakis. They must have thought by engaging India in backchannel talks, they can get India to agree to some kind of aman ki asha program but India changed Kashmir forever with Pakis caught napping.
Red Zone insiders acknowledge that Indian officials were open to hearing the Pakistani arguments, and often they responded constructively. According to these insiders, Indian officials said they were open to discussing the issue of statehood regarding IHK. When Pakistani officials raised the fears of the people of IHK about New Delhi’s attempts to change the demographics of territory, Indian officials said they could even talk about not bringing about any demographic changes.
Red Zone insiders could also have acknowledged that Indian officials were open to transfer the whole of Kashmir to Pakistan. Missed opportunity :rotfl:
More results followed in quick succession. India agreed to indulge in “vaccine diplomacy” by agreeing to send the Covid-19 vaccine to Pakistan.
India sending FREE vaccines to all neighbors except Pakistan has caused a big H&D loss forcing them to make such fake claims of India "agreeing" to send vaccine to Pakistan :lol:
Whatever happened to Quereshi's claim that Chinese vaccine will be manufactured in Pakistan :-?

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 20:46
by Manish_P
Uniformed jihadi's scared of the awaam

Yawn link - NA panel approves bill against intentional disrespect for forces
The National Assembly Standing Committee on Interior has approved a bill to make amendments to the Pakistan Penal Code and Code of Criminal Procedure 1898 to take action against those who intentionally ridicule armed forces.

The bill says anyone who shall be guilty of said offence could face up to two years imprisonment or fine that may extend to Rs500,000, or both.

While explaining the ministry’s point of view, the document states: “The incidents of defaming the armed forces have increased in the country :mrgreen: and some disruptive element, for furtherance of their political objectives, engage in this undesirable practice which is very defamatory and demoralizing for the Armed Forces of Pakistan. Minister of Interior endorses the proposed legislation keeping in view the current situation in the country...”

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 23:33
by anupmisra
Manish_P wrote:Uniformed jihadi's scared of the awaam
Hey pakilurks, the part of this amended penal code that should be worrying to your ilk is this:

...brings into disrepute or defames the Armed Forces of Pakistan or a member thereof, he shall be guilty of an offence punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to two years, or fine


Therefore, anyone criticizing current or past members of your benighted, war-winning army is guilty of defaming the armed forces. Hence, the careers of Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Tikka Khan, AAK Niazi, Zia-ul-Haq, Mushy, et al have now been whitewashed, and are now beyond debate.

Future dictators have nothing to fear.

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 08 Apr 2021 23:52
by CalvinH
Boy this guy Shahid Raza is a real anal-yst :D . Pesh-e-kidmat hai another gem



Fast forward to 6:30 mins. The analysis
- if Indian doesnt play softball with Pakistan, Pakistan will starve India economically, will make India a sea-locked country :D

The first few mins are filled with analysis like we will deny India a trillion dollar marked in central Asia. GDP of CAS is ~$300B :D

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 09 Apr 2021 01:36
by hnair
:rotfl: thanks for posting the two videos, Anujan and CalvinH .

These two are some kind of halal Laurel and Hardy of paki podcasters. The dude with terrible fake accent claims bakis makes reactors that re-cycle each other’s waste. I think he believes “The Human Centipede” was a Dutch documentary on the paki nuclear program.

Also that threat to India was hilarious, while smugly pointing out India’s “sea-locked” state. Hope he rises to the top

Re: Terroristan - November 11, 2019

Posted: 09 Apr 2021 01:58
by chetak
hnair wrote::rotfl: thanks for posting the two videos, Anujan and CalvinH .

Also that threat to India was hilarious, while smugly pointing out India’s “sea-locked” state. Hope he rises to the top

turds float, no