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Michelle wants to visit India again, says Obama
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 410478.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 410478.cms
The US has indicated clearly that its support for India for a permanent seat is contingent on how well New Delhi works with it on common objectives.
Although Washington is not on Krishna's schedule, foreign secretary Nirupama Rao will visit here on February 13-15 to follow up Menon's visit and also for preparations for the US-India strategic dialogue in April.
Hillary Clinton will visit India in April for the second round of the dialogue that kicked off in Washington last year. She'll be preceded by Commerce Secretary Gary Locke, who will be in India next week, and secretary of homeland security Janet Napolitano, sometime later.
Somewhere in this flurry of exchanges, the US Air Chief will also visit India next week, mainly for the Aero India show in Bangalore, and the Indian Army chief VK Singh will visit US from March 7-13. There's also a Defense Policy Groups meeting scheduled for March.
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Must be getting ready for re-elections!
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The common objective is defined as the objective of the Obama administration in the passing variations of the CTBT and FMCT.
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Letting India Into The F-35 Club Makes Good Sense
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/2168 ... 8a40919589
Besides Russian Cooperation India can have a few of US jets as well. At the end of the our security and protecting country from many sides are more important.
Flurry of U.S-India meetings in the offing
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/03/stories ... 741400.htm
Exports from India Surge As Demands from EU and USA Grow
http://www.economynews.in/News/2011-02- ... _Grow.html
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/2168 ... 8a40919589
Besides Russian Cooperation India can have a few of US jets as well. At the end of the our security and protecting country from many sides are more important.
Flurry of U.S-India meetings in the offing
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/03/stories ... 741400.htm
Exports from India Surge As Demands from EU and USA Grow
http://www.economynews.in/News/2011-02- ... _Grow.html
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Just a feel good story to massage affected H&D after the radio collaring of scam university students hit a raw indian nerve. Michelle Obama graces india, so now all izz well.abhishek_sharma wrote:Michelle wants to visit India again, says Obama
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MK’s N-bomb alert - - Leaked cable speaks of jihadi attempt - K.P. NAYAR
MK’s N-bomb alert - - Leaked cable speaks of jihadi attempt - K.P. NAYAR
Washington, Feb. 2: Governor M.K. Narayanan told the Americans when he was national security adviser that India had discovered a “manifest attempt” by jihadi groups “to get fissile material” to manufacture a crude nuclear bomb for use in a possible terrorist operation.
He, however, assured US Senators Russ Feingold and Bob Casey that these groups had not succeeded in acquiring fissile material, at the same time, warning them that terrorist organisations had “enough physics to fabricate a crude bomb beyond a dirty bomb”.
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“Narayanan noted that under President Musharraf from 2004 to 2006, the ‘Composite Dialogue’ moved forward and infiltration dropped. The political crisis in Pakistan in 2007 stalled progress,” Mulford quoted the governor as telling Feingold and Casey.
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Narayanan rationalised his scepticism about Zardari and Gilani by pointing out to the Americans that cross-border infiltration had spiked. With that information, he effectively countered promises brought by Casey from his earlier visit to Islamabad that Pakistan would crack down on illegal border crossings.
Another remarkable revelation in the cable is that in an effort to persevere with the dialogue with Pakistan, India deliberately downplayed cross-border infiltration at that time and did not formally protest to Islamabad, hoping that it would be a “temporary aberration”.
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He regretted, however, that “those forces have since returned to the Indian border”. These facts on the ground may account for the differences between him and Manmohan Singh during the former national security adviser’s final months in office over the Prime Minister’s unremitting drive to talk to Pakistan and the diplomatic debacle in Sharm-el-Sheikh during a meeting between Singh and Gilani.
These differences were a factor in Narayanan’s departure for Bengal, but the cable is a clear vindication of the governor’s reservations about Singh’s Pakistan policy based on clear threat assessments.He told the two senators that he had pleaded in vain during his visits to Washington for greater information sharing, even of bits and pieces.
In what appears prophetic in retrospect over the US bungle over Pakistani American terrorist David Coleman Headley, Narayanan said he had urged his interlocutors in Washington that “what might not make sense to you might make sense to me”.
But he lamented from the experience of a life-long intelligence man that “we keep our cards close to our chest... it is extremely counter-productive”.
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Need to be concerned about whether the "white recruits" are Headley-style plants.putnanja wrote:X-Posting from paki thread ...
MK’s N-bomb alert - - Leaked cable speaks of jihadi attempt - K.P. NAYAR
He bluntly told the Americans something they are constantly trying to brush under the carpet. Mulford reported that Narayanan “pointed to the increase in ‘white recruits’ detected by Indian intelligence in terrorist training camps along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Those recruits will not be used against India or Asian nations,” he grimly warned Feingold and Casey.
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Perfidious America! Unbelievable,that the US would betray closest (poodle) ally Britain ,by giving Russia Britain's nuclear secrets! The so-called "special relationship" was distinctly one-sided.This beggars the question:
Will "strategic partner" America likewise betray India by providing Pak Information about India's nuclear secrets,military secrets,or even enough info on details of aircraft and weaponry it is selling to India so that the Pakis can neutralise it later? It might very well do so as it is stuck in the Af-Pak quagmire and desperately needs the Pakis to extricate itself from the region.This will have a dvastating effect upon India's militayr capability,which could be severly compromised in any spat with Pak.he MOD/MEA should take note immediately of this grave "betrayal" behavior syndrome of Uncle Sam!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... crets.html
WikiLeaks cables: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
The US secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.
Will "strategic partner" America likewise betray India by providing Pak Information about India's nuclear secrets,military secrets,or even enough info on details of aircraft and weaponry it is selling to India so that the Pakis can neutralise it later? It might very well do so as it is stuck in the Af-Pak quagmire and desperately needs the Pakis to extricate itself from the region.This will have a dvastating effect upon India's militayr capability,which could be severly compromised in any spat with Pak.he MOD/MEA should take note immediately of this grave "betrayal" behavior syndrome of Uncle Sam!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... crets.html
WikiLeaks cables: US agrees to tell Russia Britain's nuclear secrets
The US secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.
By Matthew Moore, Gordon Rayner and Christopher Hope 9:25PM GMT 04 Feb 2011
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Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.
Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.
The fact that the Americans used British nuclear secrets as a bargaining chip also sheds new light on the so-called “special relationship”, which is shown often to be a one-sided affair by US diplomatic communications obtained by the WikiLeaks website.
Details of the behind-the-scenes talks are contained in more than 1,400 US embassy cables published to date by the Telegraph, including almost 800 sent from the London Embassy, which are published online today. The documents also show that:
• America spied on Foreign Office ministers by gathering gossip on their private lives and professional relationships.
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A series of classified messages sent to Washington by US negotiators show how information on Britain’s nuclear capability was crucial to securing Russia’s support for the “New START” deal.
Although the treaty was not supposed to have any impact on Britain, the leaked cables show that Russia used the talks to demand more information about the UK’s Trident missiles, which are manufactured and maintained in the US.
Washington lobbied London in 2009 for permission to supply Moscow with detailed data about the performance of UK missiles. The UK refused, but the US agreed to hand over the serial numbers of Trident missiles it transfers to Britain.
Professor Malcolm Chalmers said: “This appears to be significant because while the UK has announced how many missiles it possesses, there has been no way for the Russians to verify this. Over time, the unique identifiers will provide them with another data point to gauge the size of the British arsenal.”
Duncan Lennox, editor of Jane’s Strategic Weapons Systems, said: “They want to find out whether Britain has more missiles than we say we have, and having the unique identifiers might help them.”
While the US and Russia have long permitted inspections of each other’s nuclear weapons, Britain has sought to maintain some secrecy to compensate for the relatively small size of its arsenal.
William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, last year disclosed that “up to 160” warheads are operational at any one time, but did not confirm the number of missiles.
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America will do it to India too. It will supply Pakistan with the required information. It is rumored that during operation parakaram, America supplied detailed info on IN/IAF/IA posture and assets. The same happened after 26/11. And they have already done it in the past, in 1971. It is better to keep America at an arms length away, rather than embrace them.
And oh in case it is overlooked, Pakistan will dutifully pass on the info to the Chinese too.
America will do it to India too. It will supply Pakistan with the required information. It is rumored that during operation parakaram, America supplied detailed info on IN/IAF/IA posture and assets. The same happened after 26/11. And they have already done it in the past, in 1971. It is better to keep America at an arms length away, rather than embrace them.
And oh in case it is overlooked, Pakistan will dutifully pass on the info to the Chinese too.
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Surge of immigrants from India baffles border officials in Texas
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 5315.story
Indians are now the largest group of immigrants other than Latin Americans being caught at the Southwest border.
Most of the immigrants claim to be from the Punjab or Gujarat states. They are largely Sikhs who say they face religious persecution, or members of the Bharatiya Janata Party who claim to be targeted for beatings by members of the National Congress Party.
But analysts and human rights monitors say political conditions in India don't explain the migration. There is no evidence of the kind of persecution that would prompt a mass exodus, they say, and Sikhs haven't been targets since the 1980s.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 5315.story
Indians are now the largest group of immigrants other than Latin Americans being caught at the Southwest border.
Most of the immigrants claim to be from the Punjab or Gujarat states. They are largely Sikhs who say they face religious persecution, or members of the Bharatiya Janata Party who claim to be targeted for beatings by members of the National Congress Party.
But analysts and human rights monitors say political conditions in India don't explain the migration. There is no evidence of the kind of persecution that would prompt a mass exodus, they say, and Sikhs haven't been targets since the 1980s.
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saw that. pretty bold. expecting the dlones to come out of the woodwork..
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Check out in theW.Asia thread how arrogant ex-ambassador to India,slimeball "Frank the Un-Wise-nerd" is deeply embrolied in Egypts affairs ,wanting Mubarak to stand firm for personal gain.Wisner's sordid dealings with Egypt's establishment clash with his own president's objectives.One must recall Wisner's shady Enron connections (http://www.apfn.org/enron/wisner.htm...The Power Elite: Enron and Frank Wisner)
If Wisner was and is still upto such skullduggery,what about US diplomats in India today?
Tim Roemer,US ambassador is supposed to be a non-proliferation expert and his chief role appars to be neutralising India and Pak's nuclear weapons.This to be brought about by India ceding to Pak across the table concessions in Kashmir,in exchange for Pak to freeze its production of N-weapons,its key insurance against another military defeat by India.This explains why Pak is massively expanding production of N-weapons (some US sources say it already has more than India,or is that a deliberate ploy to allow Pak to secretly produce even more while India is persuaded to stop production of its own deterrent?) in such haste-with Chinese help,before the US can armtwist both India and Pak to limit their N-arsenals.The series of visits by US diplomutts and uniformed muscle like the USAF chief,is to get the UPA govt. to sign on agreements with indecent haste before it is chucked out in the next election.
If Wisner was and is still upto such skullduggery,what about US diplomats in India today?
Tim Roemer,US ambassador is supposed to be a non-proliferation expert and his chief role appars to be neutralising India and Pak's nuclear weapons.This to be brought about by India ceding to Pak across the table concessions in Kashmir,in exchange for Pak to freeze its production of N-weapons,its key insurance against another military defeat by India.This explains why Pak is massively expanding production of N-weapons (some US sources say it already has more than India,or is that a deliberate ploy to allow Pak to secretly produce even more while India is persuaded to stop production of its own deterrent?) in such haste-with Chinese help,before the US can armtwist both India and Pak to limit their N-arsenals.The series of visits by US diplomutts and uniformed muscle like the USAF chief,is to get the UPA govt. to sign on agreements with indecent haste before it is chucked out in the next election.
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India raises visa fee hike, but U.S. highlights trade barriers
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/08/stories ... 132000.htm
http://www.hindu.com/2011/02/08/stories ... 132000.htm
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U.S. official in India to discuss defence, trade
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 166996.ece
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 166996.ece
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The Hoodwinking of India’s Students
February 07, 2011
http://the-diplomat.com/2011/02/07/the- ... dium=email
By Neeta LalThe recent case of Tri-Valley University is about more than just a sham school and US visa fraud, reports Delhi-based writer Neeta Lal.
February 07, 2011
http://the-diplomat.com/2011/02/07/the- ... dium=email
By Neeta LalThe recent case of Tri-Valley University is about more than just a sham school and US visa fraud, reports Delhi-based writer Neeta Lal.
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http://www.exim.gov/india/index.cfm
Wrong map of India in the US official web site.
Please write to them
Wrong map of India in the US official web site.
Please write to them
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Gallup poll of US attitudes to 21 different countries:

Available here:
2011 Country Favourability Ratings

Available here:
2011 Country Favourability Ratings
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^ Keep the friends close, but keep the enemies closer seems to be US's policy.
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Gallup poll of US views regards the importance of 12 different countries:

Available here:
China Tops List of Countries Vitally Important to U.S.; Egypt 9th

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China Tops List of Countries Vitally Important to U.S.; Egypt 9th
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I receently saw a US mag where J&K was shown as an independent country! A Freudian slip perhaps?
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The US Government seems to be toeing the P.R. China and Islamic Republic of Pakistan notions of what is Indian territory.Acharya wrote:http://www.exim.gov/india/index.cfm
Wrong map of India in the US official web site.
Please write to them
The entire North East starting with Assam and Sikkim besides Jammu & Kashmir to the North West is shown as not being a part of India


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American aggressive at the show
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busi ... 478554.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busi ... 478554.cms
BANGALORE: India's new strategic relationship with the US following the nuclear deal is all too visible at Aero India. The US has had by far the most aggressive presence at the show. Some 41 US companies are exhibitors, and many of those exhibits are on a significant scale. What's more, a number of very senior officials from the US government and military participated in the show. Among these were commerce secretary Gary Locke, US ambassador to India Timothy Roemer, assistant secretary of state for political-military affairs Andrew Shapiro, vice admiral Bill Landay, commander of the Pacific air forces Gary North, rear admiral Joseph Rixey and Heidi Grant, deputy under secretary of the air force. Dinesh Keskar, president of Boeing India, noted the support extended by US officials, and said that India was far more open for defence than China was. Walter Doran, president-Asia of Raytheon, said the show of US commitment was incredible. "The support from the US government is eye-watering. The US is sending a very strong message about its relationship with India and about transfer of technology," he said. Analysts say it's also an indication of how important India has become
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U.S. keen on high-tech defence ties with India
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 452927.ece
US supports permanent seat for India at the UN Security Council
http://www.indiainfoline.com/Markets/Ne ... 5076833377
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 452927.ece
US supports permanent seat for India at the UN Security Council
http://www.indiainfoline.com/Markets/Ne ... 5076833377
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I suspect that the sentence will not be very long
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Going by the precedent of Mohammed Junaid Babar, Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist linked to the London 7/7 bombings who was released by the US after serving a scant 4.5 years of a 70 year sentence, I wonder how short a sentence Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist linked to the Mumbai 26/11 attack, Syed Daood Gilani aka David Coleman Headley will actually be made to serve by the US.shravan wrote:X-postPranav wrote:Was London bombing accused a US informer? - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/was-l ... r/749854/0
An American national who trained the July 7 London bombers in Pakistan, has been quietly released before his jail term is over, raising questions whether he was a US informer, a media report today said.
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See also The al-Qaida supergrass and the 7/7 questions that remain unanswered - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/1 ... -questions
Not a surprise.
I suspect that the sentence will not be very long

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Official statement from the Feb. 16 Senate hearing by James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence (33 pages).
Worldwide Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
http://intelligence.senate.gov/110216/dni.pdf
Worldwide Threat Assessment of the U.S. Intelligence Community for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
http://intelligence.senate.gov/110216/dni.pdf
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US Congress initiates Motion for India`s UNSC Permanent Seat
http://www.internationalreporter.com/Ne ... -seat.html
India needs to keep her promise while US is taking a good step further. India needs both US and Russians on board for their support in countering threat from China and Pakistan.
Ties with India growing in a great direction: US
http://news.oneindia.in/2011/02/18/ties ... d0126.html
http://www.internationalreporter.com/Ne ... -seat.html
India needs to keep her promise while US is taking a good step further. India needs both US and Russians on board for their support in countering threat from China and Pakistan.
Ties with India growing in a great direction: US
http://news.oneindia.in/2011/02/18/ties ... d0126.html
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WHy are evangelical groups involved with India in this. Why are they bothered about UNSC and NPT for India.UN Security Council, which has been highly appreciated by God Believers Association (GBA), World Peace & Human Right Mission.
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To pitch believer India against non believer China.........if need arises
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US Congress resolution backs India’s UNSC bid
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 531515.cms
Those who oppose India's bid for UNSC are enemies of India! Those who criticise any support for India to get into UNSC are propakistanis and Prochinese.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 531515.cms
Those who oppose India's bid for UNSC are enemies of India! Those who criticise any support for India to get into UNSC are propakistanis and Prochinese.
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http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opi ... dia-s-help
US and Iran could become strategic allies – with India's help
US and Iran could become strategic allies – with India's help
The standoff with Iran over its suspected nuclear weapons program continues. While Washington is arming its Gulf Arab allies in a process of ‘strategic containment,’ hardliners are seeking tighter sanctions and even military options to coerce Iran into compliance.
Is Obama's tough talk enough to help Iran's protesters? Iran opposition returns to streets, energized by Egypt But these options remain untenable. The "Gulf Security Dialogue" simply postpones the inevitable, neglecting Iran’s unconventional strengths. Sanctions antagonize Tehran, while Russia, Turkmenistan, China, and even smugglers fill the void in Iran’s energy sector. Military strikes and sabotage may set-back but not end Iran’s nuclear program, and provoke Iran to take countermeasures like mining the Strait of Hormuz – not to mention the political backlash. Regime change by support for anti-Tehran militant groups only aggravates Iran, while Iran's democracy movements are calling for civil rights, not government overthrow. And with America trapped in Iraq and Afghanistan, Tehran could easily play spoiler.
Multiple benefits
A transport link through Iran would reduce this vulnerability, while easing Islamabad’s own security burden. Coordination with Iran would help bring the Afghan warlords in Tehran’s sphere of influence into the political process, and open up a stable trade route to Central Asia.
A US-Iran understanding would also distance Iran from China, countering the Chinese “string of pearls” strategy in South and Central Asia – a greater imperative in light of China’s recently inaugurated Turkmenistan-China pipeline and talk of an Iran-Pakistan-China energy link.
Even Iran would benefit from a US détente. With three million opium users, Iran is the greatest victim of the Afghan opium trade, while the Taliban that threatens the West is similarly anathema to Iran. By partnering with US forces, Iran can direct its influence toward shared strategic aims: countering narcotics trafficking, intelligence cooperation, and stabilizing Afghanistan. The Iranians would also be assured that America would not use Iraq or the Gulf to attack them.
How India could helpEnter India, Washington’s new strategic partner.
In the 1990s, many saw a burgeoning “New Delhi-Tehran Axis” in India and Iran’s enhanced economic and strategic ties, including shared opposition to the Taliban. But under American pressure after 2005, India repeatedly voted to condemn Iran in the IAEA.
While failing to coerce Iran, these votes harmed Indo-Iranian relations: Indian plans to expand Iran’s Chabahar Port, connect it to the Indian-built Zaranj-Delaram highway in Afghanistan, and develop Iran’s first liquefied natural gas plant have all fallen by the wayside. Washington even opposed the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) natural gas pipeline, touted as the “peace pipeline” that would unite India and Pakistan, because it would benefit Tehran. Recently, Western pressure brought about the Reserve Bank of India’s largely symbolic decision to prohibit companies from using the Asian Currency Union to pay for Iranian oil – a move that was opposed by Indian business and government ministries.
Notwithstanding these setbacks, India and Iran share cultural ties that go back millennia, and strategic interests and economics remain strong points of confluence. Both seek an alternative to the Pakistan-backed Taliban in Afghanistan, as well as a new transport line to Central Asia. In 2008, India-Iran trade reached $30 billion, considering third-country intermediaries. In 2009, Iran became the second-largest supplier of crude oil to India, while Indian firms seek to develop Iran’s gas fields, with investments of more than $11 billion over the coming years.
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Part of the fallout from the massive anti-regime protests after the June 2009 election has been the tension within the Iranian government between three different conservative camps - Ahmadinejad, Khamenei and the Larijani brothers.
Just recently Ahmadinejad fired the foreign minister, Mottaki while he was abroad on an official visit in order to send a message to Mottaki's patron Khamenei.
Until these splits are resolved Iran's foreign policy will be highly volatile, lurching in one direction and then another.
Just recently Ahmadinejad fired the foreign minister, Mottaki while he was abroad on an official visit in order to send a message to Mottaki's patron Khamenei.
Until these splits are resolved Iran's foreign policy will be highly volatile, lurching in one direction and then another.
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This is precisely the reason why I have advocated an arms length relationship with US. US will tend to get us, i.e. India, involved into its own shit. Shit with which we have nothing to do and should not wade into. Today it is Iran, tomorrow it will China over Taiwan or Tibet or some tom-dick-harry reason the day after tomorrow some other country.
Please pardon my use of French.
This is precisely the type of crap which we should avoid. Iran-US problems are basically Iran's and America's problem. It has nothing to do with India. If Iran and US, like two independent adults cannot resolve their differences on their own, then we need not be the counselor to their relationship. Iran and US have such a tumultuous history together. Who is at the fault is not the issue, rather the issue is threat which both feel from one another.Prem wrote:http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opi ... dia-s-help
US and Iran could become strategic allies – with India's help
This is precisely the reason why I have advocated an arms length relationship with US. US will tend to get us, i.e. India, involved into its own shit. Shit with which we have nothing to do and should not wade into. Today it is Iran, tomorrow it will China over Taiwan or Tibet or some tom-dick-harry reason the day after tomorrow some other country.
Please pardon my use of French.
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A proposed US agenda for Central Asia
http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2011/02/18/an ... relations/
http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2011/02/18/an ... relations/
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The article is a cart load of BS to begin with. First of all, this clown Ahmadinehaad will be history pretty soon. The opposition will win. And remember the opposition mostly consists of the TFTA variety who will gubo before the US and west and give them everything they want. So, under such a situation, India is an irrelevant player.Christopher Sidor wrote:^^^
This is precisely the type of crap which we should avoid. Iran-US problems are basically Iran's and America's problem. It has nothing to do with India. If Iran and US, like two independent adults cannot resolve their differences on their own, then we need not be the counselor to their relationship. Iran and US have such a tumultuous history together. Who is at the fault is not the issue, rather the issue is threat which both feel from one another.http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opi ... dia-s-help
US and Iran could become strategic allies – with India's help
This is precisely the reason why I have advocated an arms length relationship with US. US will tend to get us, i.e. India, involved into its own shit. Shit with which we have nothing to do and should not wade into. Today it is Iran, tomorrow it will China over Taiwan or Tibet or some tom-dick-harry reason the day after tomorrow some other country.
Please pardon my use of French.
Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion
Strategic interests of India and US may not be exclusive. What after all is India's "Interest/s". Depends who defines it. Libya's for example is defined by Gaddaffi and not the mass protests on the streets who he threatens against it's. I am sure Musharaff, Kiyani and Imam Bukhari have very specific interests on India. The define India's interests to the Green Flag on the Red fort. Our Comrades in the Northern want a Red on instead the green on the Red fort. Both parties tooo envison an India under either a Red or Green flag to be prosperous, energy efficient and whatever economic benefits one may imagine India to have for the people also peaceful with Red China or Green Middle East. So whats really India defending it's "interests". When it does it surely defends someting more than what others envison.
Civilizational defense is deeper than Roti, Kapda or Makaan. The latter may be absolute essentials for Civilizational defense but are not guarantors of it in many ways. By giving Tibet away on a platter to China we have not enhanced India's civilizational defense, but squandered it no degree by having the Han directly looking down on us all along the LAC. We have diluted our civilizational survival by trying no end to absorbing the Islamist, like we (the WKK, Liberal Psec elite) are trying to via Pakistan talks and saying we are the same culture and blah blah though we know too well that Dharmics and Islamics don't marry into each other and are fundamentally way too different. So the obvious knee jerk Psec response is to negate the Dharmic element. Negate Tibet's closeness and hand it on the platter to the Godless commie. Belittle our Buddhist shared heritage and consequently hand Nepal over too and Arunachal and so on. The narrative though as seen is constant negation of our real civilizational heritage by the Psec liberal. And when they talk heritage you'll only find Humayun, Babar, Taj Mahal, Red Fort and lately Babri too be our real heritage.
The only semblance of our orignal cultural values are now in our liberal (ironically), pluralist, secular (again ironically) values. These we do share with the US to an extent. The US and Indian strategic interests must converge on not weakening any further these value systems.
Civilizational defense is deeper than Roti, Kapda or Makaan. The latter may be absolute essentials for Civilizational defense but are not guarantors of it in many ways. By giving Tibet away on a platter to China we have not enhanced India's civilizational defense, but squandered it no degree by having the Han directly looking down on us all along the LAC. We have diluted our civilizational survival by trying no end to absorbing the Islamist, like we (the WKK, Liberal Psec elite) are trying to via Pakistan talks and saying we are the same culture and blah blah though we know too well that Dharmics and Islamics don't marry into each other and are fundamentally way too different. So the obvious knee jerk Psec response is to negate the Dharmic element. Negate Tibet's closeness and hand it on the platter to the Godless commie. Belittle our Buddhist shared heritage and consequently hand Nepal over too and Arunachal and so on. The narrative though as seen is constant negation of our real civilizational heritage by the Psec liberal. And when they talk heritage you'll only find Humayun, Babar, Taj Mahal, Red Fort and lately Babri too be our real heritage.
The only semblance of our orignal cultural values are now in our liberal (ironically), pluralist, secular (again ironically) values. These we do share with the US to an extent. The US and Indian strategic interests must converge on not weakening any further these value systems.
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