Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 31 Oct 2011

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Dec 2011 03:35

Recall it was an earlier Bonn conf. failure that set off 9/11

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 06 Dec 2011 03:41

shaardula wrote:Hamid Mir's take on the goings on at Bonn

http://www.rediff.com/news/special/germ ... 111206.htm

Incoherent low-grade spin from an ISI stooge.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Dec 2011 03:47

He seems to spin away without any constraints!

An Indian Army officer pleading with Germany for TSP!
Must be in an alternate universe for why would India send military officials when they have diplomats?

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 06 Dec 2011 04:06

^^^^^^
Idiots of Rediff are gifting a pass-thru platform, without any edit controls whatsoever, for the loser of a nation (Pakistan) to spew garbage?

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 06 Dec 2011 04:14

krithivas wrote:^^^^^^
Idiots of Rediff are gifting a pass-thru platform, without any edit controls whatsoever, for the loser of a nation (Pakistan) to spew garbage?

OT Mark (short for Markata I believe) Katju is a pompous old fool but he is not wrong about the overall low intellectual quality of Indian journos.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 06 Dec 2011 04:25

Who said Rediff is a Indian news media?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Dec 2011 05:30

India holds Pakistan responsible for Afghan crises
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... han-crises

As global talks kicked-off to plan the future road map for Afghanistan, India on the first day of the moot accused that Pakistan is responsible of all the crises facing Afghanistan.
The Indian minister for External Affairs S.M. Krishna during his speech did not spare Pakistan aimed at seeking peace for Afghan people who suffered a lot and lost thousands of lives in decade long war.
Addressing the conference, Krishna hit hard at India’s archrival Pakistan on Afghanistan future, especially after withdrawal of combat forces in 2014.Pakistan boycotted the Bonn conference in reaction to a deadly NATO attack on its check posts that killed 24 of its soldiers.Krishna said that terrorists’ safe havens should be eliminated outside Afghan border.He said India would fully support Afghan-led and owned peace process. “We totally support the people of Afghanistan in their path of peace and condemn the act of terrorism on innocent people,” Krishna said.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Dec 2011 05:33

Russia forgives $11 bln in Afghan debt
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... fghan-debt
Russia

has canceled more than $11 billion in Afghanistan’s sovereign debt over the past decade, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Monday.
“During the past decade Russia has made a significant contribution to the international effort in Afghanistan. We have written off more than $11 billion of Afghanistan’s sovereign debt,” he said.
Russia also provides humanitarian aid to Afghanistan - more than 40,000 tons of wheat flour and other shipments in the past decade, worth a total of around $50 million, he said

( Hi Allah, no == with Afghanistan in cancelling Paki Debt)

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Dec 2011 06:26

Both Scowcroft and Brzezinski have been paid by Pakis in recent days..

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Dec 2011 06:55

shiv wrote:Both Scowcroft and Brzezinski have been paid by Pakis in recent days..

Any links that highlight what services they have delivered to TSP of late?

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Dec 2011 07:11

Acharya wrote:
Arjun wrote:Brezinski pretty much fathered the creation of Pakistani terrorism, and the rise of China - the two biggest security threats for the US today. And the US continues to fete this idiot and turn to him for advice...!!!
Need to understand why!

He thought that the Paks and the Chinese were too mentally unstable to become a serious threat.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Dec 2011 07:14

CRamS wrote:
shiv wrote:Both Scowcroft and Brzezinski have been paid by Pakis in recent days..
Any links that highlight what services they have delivered to TSP of late?

Boy would I love to have such links. The reason I say that is not based on any proof, and if I were not so small and inconsequential - in the US I could get sued for slander or some such thing. What I find interesting is that for a man of Brzezinskis status to talk in detail about the Pakistani perspective - he has to be told about how Pakis feel to be Paki - and how India looms large. You can "understand" the Paki perspective only if you are close to Pakis.

OK Bzrzrzrzrski was close to Pakis in his heyday. But now? Who funds his insurance premia for his facelifts, botox and prostate surgery? Recall that Brzrzrzzrki is no longer talking about IndiaPak Cashmere. He has now modernised his thought process and is referring to how Pakis are worried about India in Afghanistan. That means he is in touch with Pakis who are feeding him with information. As an American, do you believe this man is doing it all for free? I doubt it. Payments are being made via usual channel by the unique Pakistani-American version of hawala. Pakistani Americans are paying him for "services".

But typically the US which quietly sat by as Fai was funded by the ISI is hardly going to investigate or reveal Brzrzakis duplicity unless some Assange like figure can show who his friends and and where his money is coming from. Assange is less nobody than me and is therefore being squeezed rather than ignored.

vina · Post by **vina** » 06 Dec 2011 07:18

He thought that the Paks and the Chinese were too mentally unstable to become a serious threat.

Said dude is in heart a Pole. See, Poland was shafted by Stalin AND Hitler in cahoots (something which the CPI-M communism worshipers NEVER admit to) and he and his fellow emigres from Poland rode the coat tails of Unkil to shaft Russia /Soviet Union. His primary motivation was anti Russia, hence signed up with all anti Soviet Union forces (PRC after the SU-PRC fallout and Pakis to shaft the Russians in Afghanistan).

He justified it in terms of historical necessity and freedom for Eastern Europe and if that it hadn't happened, the Soviet Union "evil empire" would still be around. Can't blame him from that perspective. But the fallout in terms of Paki terrorism is something we are left holding the can with, and the blow back in terms of "Global Jihad" is hitting unkil in the gonads.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Dec 2011 07:23

M. Ijaz offered RAW help with ISI-linked jihadists - Praveen Swami
Excerpts

Billionaire businessman Mansoor Ijaz, now at the heart of a scandal that is threatening to bring down Pakistan's democratic government, had approached India's intelligence services with an offer to broker peace between New Delhi and jihadists linked to the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate, highly placed government sources have told The Hindu .

The businessman, the sources said, made contact with C.D. Sahay—who went on to serve as RAW's chief from 2003 to 2005 —claiming to have the blessings of the White House to broker a secret India-Pakistan deal on Jammu and Kashmir.

Mr. Ijaz's offer came even as key Hizb ul-Mujahideen commander Abdul Majid Dar and the former RAW chief, A.S. Dulat, were engaged in secret discussions aimed at bringing about a ceasefire. Mr. Dar and Mr. Dulat, the sources said, met in the United Arab Emirates after the Kargil war. Srinagar-based sources close to Mr. Dar admitted the meeting took place, but said it came about after the jihad commander experienced a spiritual epiphany while caught among a crush of pilgrims in Mecca.

Less than a fortnight after the July 25, 2000 ceasefire announcement, though the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen's Pakistan-backed chief, Muhammad Yusuf Shah, backed out under ISI pressure—sparking off a bitter internecine war that would claim the lives of several members of the hardline faction, as well as Mr. Dar himself.

Eight weeks before the ceasefire, Mr. Ijaz was flown to Srinagar under RAW escort, where he met with top officials, including then-XV corps commander Lieutenant-General Kishan Pal and Director-General of Police Gurbachan Jagat. The then Chief Minister, Farooq Abdullah, hosted a dinner for the businessman on May 10, 2000.

In a November 22 article in the International Herald Tribune , Mr. Ijaz claimed credit for having organised the ceasefire, saying he implored Pakistan's military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, to “persuade the Mujahideen under his control to opt for non-violent means.” In the course of a three-hour meeting, Mr. Ijaz wrote: “I told him that every civilian I met in Kashmir earlier that month had tired as much of the incessant violence imparted by Pakistan's militia forces.”

The ceasefire, Mr. Ijaz's account of events has it, fell apart, after “Pakistan's Islamic fundamentalists got wind of the proposal.” General Musharraf, in turn, “got cold feet.”

Mr. Sahay, RAW sources said, received calls from Mr. Ijaz on several subsequent occasions—one time, claiming to have the former head of Pakistan's Jamaat-e-Islami, Qazi Husain Ahmad, on the line.

RAW's opinion, however, was that Mr. Ijaz did not have the influence to deliver on promises he made. His claims to have had a role in organising the ceasefire caused amusement

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Dec 2011 07:27

shiv wrote:But typically the US which quietly sat by as Fai was funded by the ISI is hardly going to investigate or reveal Brzrzakis duplicity . .

The likes of Brzezinskis & Kissingers can never be exposed for it would then go up to the US Presidents and Administrations.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Dec 2011 07:31

vina wrote: He justified it in terms of historical necessity and freedom for Eastern Europe and if that it hadn't happened, the Soviet Union "evil empire" would still be around. Can't blame him from that perspective. But the fallout in terms of Paki terrorism is something we are left holding the can with, and the blow back in terms of "Global Jihad" is hitting unkil in the gonads.

When we talk about forces of history I would be wary of saying "can't blame him". Can't blame Jinnah for feeling what he felt, or even Hitler. In Brzeninskis mind India was an inconsequential pawn. He was wrong. He was wrong about how large India loomed in Pakistan consciousness and even as a prominent leader in the US he was unable to read Pakistan beyond what Pakistanis fed him with because he was more concerned about his background and understood the orld less that would be expected of a real leader.

A man who turns out to be a dumb ass in retrospect. After all we are invariably scathing about leaders mistakes in the past - be it Gandhi or Nehru. Why let off this turd?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Dec 2011 07:36

SSridhar wrote:
shiv wrote:But typically the US which quietly sat by as Fai was funded by the ISI is hardly going to investigate or reveal Brzrzakis duplicity . .
The likes of Brzezinskis & Kissingers can never be exposed for it would then go up to the US Presidents and Administrations.

Absolutely - so it is left to others to slowly chip at their reputations and actions so that the great image that has been built up about them and their actions is set right.

As an aside, in the US George Washington is held up as one of the great Presidents, admired by history like Nehru in India. I know a guy who has studied the man in detail and actually laughs and says that Washington was pretty much a zerrow and is able to quote multiple biographical sources to illustrate his point. But no. No one will believe him.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Dec 2011 07:44

vina wrote:
He thought that the Paks and the Chinese were too mentally unstable to become a serious threat.
Said dude is in heart a Pole. See, Poland was shafted by Stalin AND Hitler in cahoots (something which the CPI-M communism worshipers NEVER admit to) and he and his fellow emigres from Poland rode the coat tails of Unkil to shaft Russia /Soviet Union. His primary motivation was anti Russia, hence signed up with all anti Soviet Union forces (PRC after the SU-PRC fallout and Pakis to shaft the Russians in Afghanistan).

He justified it in terms of historical necessity and freedom for Eastern Europe and if that it hadn't happened, the Soviet Union "evil empire" would still be around. Can't blame him from that perspective. But the fallout in terms of Paki terrorism is something we are left holding the can with, and the blow back in terms of "Global Jihad" is hitting unkil in the gonads.

Maybe ... people sometimes don't see the bigger picture.

The Bolsheviks who made Poland suffer were in fact funded by western capitalists. The same can be said for Hitler. The Soviet Union had, by the 1970's and 1980's, become a different creature. Brzezinski, if he is truly a Polish nationalist, has been after the wrong guys.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 06 Dec 2011 08:04

New BBC 3 docu out yesterday called "Exposed Groomed For Sex" naming the usual culprits by nationality. Available on iPlayer will upload youtube as soon as they are online.

Here is a review
http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/reviews/88395 ... ocumentary

Adil Ray investigate the link between the grooming of young girls and Pakistani men

More alarming was that even friends and those not associated with the attackers deemed the rapes acceptable behaviour.

parsuram · Post by **parsuram** » 06 Dec 2011 08:05

Acharya wrote:
jrjrao wrote: And the U.S. has never made that choice: What is its priority? Building Afghanistan or confronting China?

These country-club idiots are so far removed from the Dover KIA processing center, and from the freshly dug graves at Arlington and at cemeteries all around the US, in which lay buried freshly dead young Americans, all because of the Pakis.[/quotDo not underestimate these guys.
India is needed only for this or India is to be discarded. The question should be - Can anarchy rule the region just because one country has a problem. Why are they taking the concerns of Pakistan when Pakistan is not taking the concerns of regional countries.

Acharya ji: You are quite right. Among these three, the polock brazinski is by far the worst, and the biggest threat. This bsturd has a visceral hatred of the Russians. That is personal with him, and also based on his polok background. He has more of a Polish world view, than a concern for American security. He was responsible for the catastrophe that was Carter's foreign policy. This bsturd put in place US deals with the paki for the proxy war in Afghanistan. That gave birth to Al Qaida under bin Laden, established policy of winking at paki nuclear bomb acqisition from the Chinese, all based on his utter hatred for both the Russians and the Indians. Even with hindsight and 911, he continues to brag like a moronic imbicile every chance he gets on TV on how he destryed the soviet union. His hatred of India, and his love for islamics continues unabated. I do not know what is the basis for the latter complex, but he has obviously had to disguise it as he eats Fox News money. Brazinski followed Kissinger in the NSA spot, and was intensly jelous of him, particularly after Dr K got the Nobel, and that was one big reason why he did his best to lay down policies that would greatly influence and tie down the NSAs who followed him into decisions he had made (the two half wits who were at this gathering with him. Unfortunately, India does need to pay particular attention to what mischief this polock is up to, because, being of the foreign policy establishment of the Dem party, he gets heard by the Obama administration. Mad Dog Brazinski. Good thing you caught this assole in the act. Let us keep tabs on him. And incidentally, while history does move ever so slowly, some times, with people like Dr. K, Brazinski et al, one can almost see the fall of american civilization in perceptible motion.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Dec 2011 08:14

Rajdeep wrote:
More alarming was that even friends and those not associated with the attackers deemed the rapes acceptable behaviour.

Rajdeep, uncovered meat.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 06 Dec 2011 08:24

CRamS wrote:
shiv wrote:Both Scowcroft and Brzezinski have been paid by Pakis in recent days..
Any links that highlight what services they have delivered to TSP of late?

Start from here?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... Brzezinski

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 06 Dec 2011 08:44

SSridhar wrote: Rajdeep, uncovered meat.

After seeing the docu , the way they try to rationalise with some piskology is just too much !
What makes someone to go such an extent to hurt another human being ? especially children. Cause they start grooming girls as early as 11 yrs old !

One paki woman went as far as to blame kashmiri youth for this kind of behaviour and the host immediately jumped on it and said kashmiris from "india" and pakistan.

The pinnacle of pisko behaviour is when in the end the host says that the police are actually interrogating an indian sikh guy too for such crime.
As you might have guessed the host is a paki brit.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 06 Dec 2011 08:49

More alarming was that even friends and those not associated with the attackers deemed the rapes acceptable behaviour.

Maybe it is time for the British to 'groom' these a-holes in prison. I am surprised that the Brits are not trying these guys as child molesters/ rapists and putting them away for a very long time. They should stop using euphemisms like 'grooming' to minimize the atrocity. In fact in the US prisons, these types of guys are considered the lowliest of the lows with fellow inmates reserving special treatment for them.

sum · Post by **sum** » 06 Dec 2011 09:12

X-post:

sum wrote:GoI seems to have declassified its dealings with Mansoor Ijaz now that he is facing the heat and in the news:

Billionaire at heart of Pakistan political crisis offered RAW help with ISI-linked jihadists

Ijaz met former RAW chief Sahay, claiming to have blessings of White House to broker a secret India-Pakistan deal on J&K

Mansoor Ijaz, the billionaire businessman now at the heart of a scandal that is threatening to bring down Pakistan's democratic government, had earlier approached India's intelligence services with an offer to broker peace between New Delhi and jihadists linked to the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate, highly placed government sources have told The Hindu.

The billionaire businessman, the sources said, made contact with C.D. Sahay—who went on to serve as RAW's chief from 2003 to 2005 —claiming to have the blessings of the White House to broker a secret India-Pakistan deal on Jammu and Kashmir.

In October this year, Mr. Ijaz revealed that Husain Haqqani, Islamabad's ambassador to the United States, had recruited him into plot to ease Pakistan's generals out of positions of power. He went public with a memo calling on the United States to help Pakistan's government rid itself of the Army, and then made over evidence of his conversations with Mr. Haqqani to the ISI's chief, General Shuja Pasha.

President Asif Ali Zardari has since been forced to recall Mr. Haqqani—and many analysts believe what is being called “MemoGate” could end in a frontal showdown between the military and the elected government.

Mr. Ijaz's Kashmir mission reveals the businessman had a long history of participating in political intrigue — but failing to deliver on his promises, and then falling out with partners in public.

Ijaz's Mission Kashmir

Mr. Ijaz's offer came even as key Hizb ul-Mujahideen commander Abdul Majid Dar and former RAW chief A.S. Dulat were engaged in secret discussions aimed at bringing about a ceasefire. Mr. Dar and Mr. Dulat, the sources said, met in the United Arab Emirates after the Kargil war. Srinagar-based sources close to Mr. Dar admitted the meeting took place, but said it came about after the jihad commander experienced a spiritual epiphany while caught among a crush of pilgrims in Mecca.

Less than a fortnight after the July 25, 2000, ceasefire announcement, though the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen's Pakistan-backed chief, Muhammad Yusuf Shah, backed out under ISI pressure—sparking off a bitter internecine war that would claim the lives of several members of the hardline faction, as well as Mr. Dar himself.

Eight weeks before the ceasefire, Mr. Ijaz was flown to Srinagar under RAW escort, where he met with top officials including then-XV corps commander Lieutenant-General Kishan Pal and Director-General of Police Gurbachan Jagat. Former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Farooq Abdullah hosted a dinner for the businessman on May 10, 2000.

In a November 22 article in the International Herald Tribune, Mr. Ijaz claimed credit for having organised the ceasefire, saying he implored Pakistan's military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, to “persuade the Mujahideen under his control to opt for non-violent means”. In the course of a three hour meeting, Mr. Ijaz wrote, “I told him that every civilian I met in Kashmir earlier that month had tired as much of the incessant violence imparted by Pakistan's militia forces.”

The ceasefire, Mr. Ijaz's account of events has it, fell apart, after “Pakistan's Islamic fundamentalists got wind of the proposal”. General Musharraf in turn “got cold feet”.

Mr. Sahay, RAW sources said, received calls from Mr. Ijaz on several subsequent occasions—one time, claiming to have the former head of Pakistan's Jamaat-e-Islami, Qazi Husain Ahmad, on the line.

RAW's opinion, however, was that Mr. Ijaz did not have the influence to deliver on promises he made. His claims to have had a role in organising the ceasefire caused amusement

The Sudan affair

India's spies weren't the only players to lose faith in Mr. Ijaz. In the 1990s, Mr. Ijaz—who runs an investment bank in New York, and was a major donor to the Democratic party—claimed to have been relaying messages from Sudan's Islamist government to the White House. Mr. Ijaz later wrote his mission had given the United States an opportunity to eliminate Osama bin-Laden.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 06 Dec 2011 10:22

^^ Look like a leak to encourage the Qadrification of Ijaz and help out the Zardari clan who are obviously India-friendly as much as a Pakbarian can be..but problem is a disclosure of this sort by Kufr India in a establishment friendly rag by a establishment friendly 'journalist' with an obvious ax to grind will have zero credibility and may end up doing the exact opposite - boosting Ijaz Ghazi credentials.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 06 Dec 2011 10:23

I have a feeling that Pakistan has set in motion plans for a series of terrorist attacks on both Indian and Western targets all over the world. My feeling is based on the chatter level of Pakistani mouth pieces. They occasionally give out a sudden splash of "confidence" when they speak like a Gamma ray burst.
Please watch Hamid Gul, Kiyani videos and statements for the past week. If there is something in the pipeline, these two monsters would know about it.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Dec 2011 10:37

Altair wrote:I have a feeling that Pakistan has set in motion plans for a series of terrorist attacks on both Indian and Western targets all over the world. My feeling is based on the chatter level of Pakistani mouth pieces. They occasionally give out a sudden splash of "confidence" when they speak like a Gamma ray burst.
Please watch Hamid Gul, Kiyani videos and statements for the past week. If there is something in the pipeline, these two monsters would know about it.

IMO unlikely that these mofos ahve the degree of control that is needed to carry out such a concerted global attack and also gain from it in some way.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Dec 2011 10:39

but they have enough of a sensor grid to 'know' if someone else is up to it. like all tactically brilliant jernails, they will 'align' and express quiet support while preparing for the aftermath and seeking ways to benefit from the chaos.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 06 Dec 2011 10:49

From the Frontier Post

BONN (Online): As global talks kicked-off to plan the future roadmap for Afghanistan, India on the first day of the moot accused that Pakistan is responsible of all the crises facing Afghanistan.The Indian minister for External Affairs S.M. Krishna during his speech did not spare Pakistan aimed at seeking peace for Afghan people who suffered a lot and lost thousands of lives in decade long war.

Then SMK has a meeting with Karzai on the sidelines to discuss Indian aid to Afghans.

Was SMK on an overdose of MultiVits?

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 06 Dec 2011 11:03

shiv wrote:Folks let me ask you a rhetorical pisko question in MCQ format. If you were Pakistan army and the US conduced a raid under your nose to take out bin Laden, what response would be the best in order for you to save your echandee? Choose one.

1. Admit that you knew nothing about it
2. Say that you found out about it but did not respond
3. Say that it is not possible to respond against the US
4. Say that you knew all along and your silence was part of the game to get bin Laden.

General expectations from a rational and honest entity is to pick one position and stick by it. But pakis are neither rational(in general sense) nor honest. They will choose and change their position on their need. They dont think long-term, only short-term. So, they will be 'tactically brilliant'.

In keeping with this tradition (of perfidy), paki masses and the bosses(i.e. generals and colonels) seemed startled by the US raid. The paki bosses took the first position("we know nothin"), when there was an anticipation of outrage among the paki masses.

After that initial response, when there was no great outrage among paki masses and there was celebratory mood among the ameeriki masses and bosses, pakis went to the second position. The second position allowed them to shift to third or fourth position as the circumstance dictated.

Finally, they have now shift to the fourth position.

If the circumstances change further, their positions will also change.

The thing with pakis is that they are constant in their perfidy. And their positions should never be taken as 'fixed'.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 06 Dec 2011 11:11

militant leaders in valley are coming out and speaking up against their association with MI...syed salahuddin, YM's report a couple days ago etc. Why don't people question Hafiz Sayeed if he has also been in contact and participated in some negotiations??? Won't it be nice to have these jihadi leaders qadrified by their own.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Dec 2011 11:15

Security must be on the double in WEST On Christmas and New year eve and 26th Jan celebrations in India.
Poaqadooz will try to take advantage of the public gathering to cause mass casualties.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 06 Dec 2011 11:27

Singha wrote:but they have enough of a sensor grid to 'know' if someone else is up to it. like all tactically brilliant jernails, they will 'align' and express quiet support while preparing for the aftermath and seeking ways to benefit from the chaos.

a. What happened to the usual Pakistani missile tests that occur whenever bravado is called for?

b. Is another Paki response possibly to do a nuke test?

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 06 Dec 2011 11:47

Key US senators urge review of Pakistan funding

Pakistan PM Yousuf Raza Gilani sees progress in US ties

Not saying that the two stories are linked...

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 06 Dec 2011 11:54

I wonder whether the Kiyanahi and Zarda Memogate spat is clouding the Paki thinking vis-a-vis the Yanquis? The civvies trying to pull the gernails down?

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 06 Dec 2011 12:39

The NATO 'attack' was on 26/11 and by the way the Pakis are whinning, they are subtly trying to do an equal equal that they are also victims. I am disgusted with all the dramabazi that they are doing to dilute the significance that India places on the date.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 06 Dec 2011 13:03

Low intensity blast in Karachi, two injured
http://www.samaa.tv/newsdetail.aspx?ID=39828&CID=1

KARACHI: A low intensity explosion ripped through Kala Pul bridge near Defence area, injuring two people, SAMAA reports Tuesday.
...
The blast came as Youm-e-Ashur, the 10th of Muharram, is being observed across the country today to pay tributes to Hazrat Imam Hussain (RA) and his companions for Islam.

A similar incident occurred in the city on Monday night when at least two people incurred injuries in a powerful explosion in Lines Area.

It was initially believed to be cylinder blast, but later sources said that explosives were used to carry out explosion. SAMAA

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Dec 2011 13:09

Salman Bashir (the current foreign secretary who never forgets to meet Kayani before and after every India visit) is set to become Paki hih comissioner to India

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 06 Dec 2011 13:14

From Down.com (posted in full)

US military officials say Pakistan leaving border liaison centres

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is pulling its troops out of at least two of the three centres meant to coordinate military activity across the Afghan border in apparent retaliation for Nato airstrikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers, US military officials said.

The move will hamper US efforts to liaise with Pakistani forces, increasing the risk that something could go wrong again, said the officials late Monday. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
The US and Pakistan have offered different accounts of what led to the Nato attacks against two army posts along the Afghan border before dawn on November 26, but the deadly incident seems to have been caused in part by communication breakdowns.

The soldiers’ deaths have plunged already strained US-Pakistan relations to an all-time low, threatening Washington’s attempts to get Pakistan to cooperate on the Afghan war.

Pakistan retaliated immediately by closing its Afghan border crossings to Nato supplies, demanding the US vacate an air base used by American drones and boycotting an international conference held Monday in Bonn, Germany, aimed at stabilising Afghanistan.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told The Associated Press in an interview Monday that Pakistan wanted to repair relations with the United States.

But the military’s decision to abandon the border coordination centres shows it is still outraged over the incident, which it has called deliberate — an allegation denied by the US.

Pakistan may still have troops at the coordination centre in Torkham in the country’s northwest Khyber tribal area, but has pulled out of the other two along the border, said the US officials.

The Pakistani military did not immediately respond to request for comment.

I think PA abduls will be issued Jihadi outfits.

How childish can they get. Dying for attention or are they spoiling for a fight?