Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13

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BTW the arrest of Maqbul in AP shows there is no need for NCTC as DP was able to arrest him in Hyd and take him away to Delhi for questioning.
The only lacuna is AP police should have been in the interrogation as they could have benefited first hand from the details of Maqbul's knowledge.

So a lesson learned should be to embed local police when a person of interest is arrested and questioned from a non-Delhi location.

What India needs is a reverse NCTC.es.


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ShyamSp. Thanks. So how do they ensure a bicycle with a big tiffin "trunk" which is by itself is not stolen by opportunity thieves.

In Hyd any thing left unattended will get stolen. And they have to leave it unattended or else they will get killed in the blast.
The investigators turned suspicious with the person suffering injuries on his back while most of the victims have injuries on their faces or the frontal parts of the body. The officials are refusing to comment on the person at this point. “He is the resident of Kalapathar in Old City. However, he could not give any details on his presence in Dilsukhnagar except saying he was having tea when the blast took place,” the source said.
So thats what happened. They did not have a second guy. The guy who planted had to run fast. And this guy with a limp was slow and got injured in his back?

SO is this guy MIM or IM?

I bet the former as he tried to blow up the Sai Baba temple earlier also.
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The question is who recommended and who signed the release recommendation for Maqbul, knowing the fact that he was a repeat murderer and accused in multiple murder cases?

Shouldn't he be getting multiple sentences because all those crimes are separate incidents? Then how can he get released on "good behavior?"

Unless the political angle is solved the terrorism will not go away.

That is why I said, we need to wait till next elections to know if terrorism can be addressed.

Police have too much information already. But they cannot make arrests, preemptively, without a POTA like law. We do not have a Minority Report situation. The police have to wait till the even happens to make any move.
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Andhra News:

Police suspect man injured in the blast
Hyderabad, Feb 22: Police investigating the twin blasts at Dilsukhnagar in the city on Thursday, came up with a startling revelation that one person who was injured in the 2007 Mecca Masjid blasts, was also present and injured in Dilsukhnagar.

Mirza Abdul Wasey, A resident of Kalapatthar area in the old city was injured in the 2007 Mecca Masjid blasts and had undergone a surgery. After so many years, his name surfaced in the list of injured in Dilsukhnagar. Police became alert after some TV channels highlighted the matter and said how he had providential escape from two terror attacks.

Police were more surprised when Abdul told the media that he came to the Dilsukhnagar area for having a cup of tea contradicting their family members version that Abdul was selling garments in Dilsukhnagar area when the blast occurred Thursday evening.

Some policemen Friday gathered information from Wasey and his family members at the hospital, which left to speculations by some television channels that the police were probing into his possible involvement.

The family rubbished the allegations. Moghal said it was a sheer bad luck that his son was injured twice in the blasts.

Director General of Police V. Dinesh Reddy also advised media not indulge in speculations as they would be doing disservice to the investigations.

However,Police are now keeping clsoe eye on this victim.
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/state/cc ... 11830.html
Hyderabad, Feb 22: The twin blasts in Dilsukhnagar on Thursday night, which created a nation-wide sensation and concern, seemed to have been put into operation after a well-hatched plan and a reconnaissance of the area four days earlier.

A conclusion to this effect seemed to have been arrived at by the NIA officials during their preliminary investigations after discovering that the CC cameras installed in the area was made non-operational by cutting the wires a few days back. Though the concerned authorities were informed to repair and reconnect the wires, the person entrusted with the work failed to turn up which further strengthened the suspicion. :eek:

According to Intelligence sources the suspected terrorists had stayed put in various lodges in the area few days back for reconnaissance and had selected the crowded spots for planting the bombs. They had taken all precautionary measures to safeguard their identity. After minutely surveying the area and identifying the spots where the detonators have to be planted, the terrorists diligently acted to ensure that the CC cameras go dead by cutting the wires.

Investigations also brought to light that the terrorists had even made a last minute change in shifting a spot for planting the detonators. As a matter fact the famous Sai Baba temple in the area was to have been the target keeping in view the large gathering of devotees it being Thursday. However in view of the heavy police presence near the temple seemed to have forced the terrorists to change the plan instead plant the detonator behind the bus shlter instead of the temple.

Being an ardent Sai Baba devotee, City Police Commissioner Anurag Sharma performed special pooja in the temple. In view of the city police chief’s visit, the police made adequate bandobust in and around the temple. On finding the large number of policemen, the terrorists changed their plans and instead of the temple placed the bomb in the nearby bus shelter. In fact the City Police Commissioner seem to have had a providential escape because nearly after 15 to twenty minutes of his leaving the temple, the first blast occurred.

Now the investigating officers are studying the footage of the CC cameras installed near the Sai Baba temple, which surprisingly missed the attention of the terrorists to deactivate it. Police are trying to trace a group of youth, considered to be non-locals, leaving the area in a hurry few minutes before the blasts occurred.

It is pertinent to note here that the same Sai Baba temple was the target of bomb attack on November 21, 2002. Bombs in tiffin boxes placed in a scooter in front of the temple had exploded resulting in the death of two persons.
Hyderabad, Feb 22: Devotees of the Sai Baba temple in Dilsukhnagar, had a miraculous escape from the blasts that ripped the area on Thursday night.

According to information, it was the temple that the terrorists wanted to plant the bombs at, as per their initial plans. They chose the temple as they wanted the blasts to cause maximum deaths as thousands of devotees visit it on Thursdays. But city police commissioner Anurag Sharma visited the temple an hour before the blast. As the top cop was coming to the temple, there was heavy police security at the temple, making it impossible for the terrorists to plant the bombs there. They immediately switched plans and planted the bombs at the Konark and Venkatadri theatres, near the temple. Police are surprised at the determination of the terrorists, who went ahead with the blast plan despite the police presence.
it could be they couldnt take the bomb back as it had the timer activated or would go bad in rain etc.
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Here is a theory, the Tiffin box is suitable to be taken inside the Sai baba temple as prasad, nobody would suspect, there was a news report that this bomb was given a directional nature so it explodes towards a target and this could be the diety, yes its diabolical, when devotees then stampede the cycle bombs would be waiting for them near the entrance, they measured a 3 min gap between the first explosion at 6:58pm and another at 7:01pm. Later after they went to backup plan, they left this 'directional' tiffin bomb near some cylinders based on news reports and eye witness accounts that their initial reaction was a cylinder burst. Luckily the sharpnel from the bomb didn't penetrate the cylinders. Those bombs had static timers (they couldn't reset them) and in the execution of plan B they got delayed which could be the reason the Mirza guy got hit by sharpnel in the back. This also leads to the point that the planters were just carriers after somebody else activated it for them.

And then old bicycles were used so that they can't be traced back. There was also a news report that there are 4 suspects (also part of Mumbai 7/11 blasts) who might have disguised themselves as students and stayed in some of the nearby hostels, after all its an educational center.

This Maqbhool guy now with Delhi police custody was used to spawn bomb makers, but this directional thing is an after development or his devious gyan we don't know.
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ramana wrote:Three things

Currently there are two main theories:

- Paki strike using IM 'sleeper cells": Abu Jundal, interrogation of two miscreants in Oct 2012, bicycle bombs, Sai Baba temple, MMS statements after beheading, Afzal Gand** hanging, Kasab hanging, Hafiz Suar weeping, and so on and so forth
- Local Hyderabad Muslims from Old City: MIM disaffection with Kiran Kumar Reddy, campaign to oust him, Mahajan Hospital land issue, Owasi family's truculence, Charminar temple issue, some of the blast victims curious connection to Old City an so and so forth.

Which one is it? we need to gather facts from the public domain for and against each theory.
Ramana Garu,
according to news, there was a country wide alert. The recce was done in Pune and Hyderabad. To understand their working, one has to understand their thinking. I think pakis still think in terms of Mughal/Brit administrative zones. So, the chronology may have been in this manner:
pakis send message to the deccan cell to carry out attacks in some city in deccan. The city should not be Mumbai or Delhi. Attack on these Mumbai or Delhi brings too much heat(specially on pakis). So, some other city must be chosen, so that it can have enough attention but it should not be so big that the rulers are forced to take drastic steps(specially against pakis).

So, Pune and Hyderabad are chosen as potential candidates. Perhaps, Bangalore was dropped because an attack would be too high profile.

The reasons for choosing Hyderabad may be due to the local situations mentioned by you. Ovaisies, dislodging the CM, Telangana issues,...etc.

Anyone living in Hyd will know that Old city of Hyd is an adda and ovaisies give political protection. So, an attack so near the adda may indicate a certain amount of desperation or urgency.

Looking at all the previous bomb blasts, the thinking may be in the following manner:
-The blasts are in a happening commercial location. To impact the economy.
-The blasts are in a crowded locations. To cause high number of casualties. To instil fear.
-The attacks target common man. Except attack on parliament and J&K assembly, all attacks have been on common man.
-The attacks target temples. Jihad...

So, the locations fitting the above model are: Markets, theatres, busy roads and temples.

Dilsukhnagar may be fitting the above profile. There may also be issues of logistics(i.e. distance from old city). Once the attack is carried out, the perpetrators may escape out of the city to other places(out of the state if need be) and lie low.

In a week or two, the public memory fades. Then, the politicians and ngos who shield the jihadis take over.

To eliminate such organizations, the key players have to be taken out.
a) funders(local and foreign). It may be done in the disguise of charity.
b) Local political and social supporters. These guys may have a direct contact with pakis(or even higher players) and may be aware of national and international ramifications of their actions.
c) technicians i.e. bomb maker(s).
d) recruiters or motivators i.e. leaders. These people may have been trained in pakilands.

I think local cops would know all there is to know about these networks and players. If there is a favourable political setup, the cops(with some support from CRPF, perhaps) are more than enough to take out the whole jihadi network within the desh. Maybe, they would need a POTA like law. Thats all, nothing more is required to tackle local players.


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Vasu Raya saar,
your theory is very much plausible. In fact, it sounds very reasonable.

But, why this particular temple?
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The temple has more devotees and there is scope even for plan B to yield mass casualties,they waited for a long time for the police to clear the Sai baba temple, its only when they were at their wits end did they shift to plan B, for sure Mirza would corroborate
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Look at how 700 gms Urea Nitrate packed into Tiffin box like container was exploded. (700-800 gms of Ammonium Nitrate was used in Hyderabad blast). Once enough training on handling of ANFO, rest is as easy for any home bombmakers like Cuddapah Natubombu (crude bomb) makers. Any Irani chai sipping Abdul recruit is enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SpTofaUY0I
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^^ napunsak Government of India should keep bounty of at least 5 crore to catch this guy.
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Nightwatch on this incident
Authorities reported on 22 February that 16 people have died and 100 were injured by the two bomb attacks in Hyderabad in southern India on 21 February. Multiple news services reported rising indignation over the government's failure to prevent the attacks because three days before the Hyderabad bombing national intelligence sources warned local authorities about threats of terrorist attacks in Hyderabad, Bangalore and Coimbatore, according to the Ministry of Home Affairs. Comment: A Muslim extremist group, known as the Indian Mujahedin, appears to be the primary suspect in the attacks. A signed Times of India article describes the Indian Mujahedin as a proxy for Pakistan's Lashkar-e-Taiba which the author insists is supported by Pakistani intelligence.The alleged aim is to make it appear that Islamic terrorism in India is home grown, instead of Pakistani instigated and financed. Of note, the Hyderabad attacks do not appear to be failures of substantive intelligence warning, but, rather, failures either of intelligence persuasion or of appropriate reflexive executive responses to intelligence warning. NightWatch has observed over the years that Indian national intelligence is reported to have provided local authorities several days of warning before attacks on multiple occasions. Thus, intelligence warning appears to be at least timely, though there is no way to evaluate the actionability of the content or its detail. On the other hand, Indian local authorities seem unwilling to implement increased vigilance measures or might not know what actions to direct after they have been warned.
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vasu raya wrote:With such large single source as Vizag port, bagging can be mechanized along with doping for tracking purposes, I don't understand why they want to continue using large nos of labor for this.
Some good news on this front. Link
Realising the inherent danger in handling of this explosive material, Vizag Port Trust issued a circular on February 4, 2013 saying that from April 1, 2013 handling of AN, other than in bagged form, would be banned.

Vizag Port was among the few ports that was allowing handling this material in an unbagged form leaving open gaps in security issues relating to itself, the Vizag Naval base, not to mention the entire country.

Admitting that AN handling posed security threats in the absence of adequate security and safety measures, the VPT circular said a set of guidelines have now been decided, under which AN imports and exports would only be allowed in bagged form, with the bagging being done at the port of origin.
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SSridhar wrote:Nightwatch on this incident
Thus, intelligence warning appears to be at least timely, though there is no way to evaluate the actionability of the content or its detail. On the other hand, Indian local authorities seem unwilling to implement increased vigilance measures or might not know what actions to direct after they have been warned.
Actually it is impossible to act on intel inputs. Let us be honest. What could a police department do when they get intel saying that in Hyderabad there will be attacks. It is now a city of 200KM diameter. 75% of any city is crowded with unstructured growth and traffic is not regulated with both BMW and bicycle on the same road. Hyderabad is notorious in gallis. Businesses will be there everywhere and there is no restriction to where to live and where to do business. How could they check a zillion tiffin boxes? How can they check a million buses, zillion scooters etc that ply the roads? Indian or foreign Intel will never be able to give that attacks are coming to Dilshuknagar. At best they may give vicinity of Old city (I will be surprised if they can narrow down beyond Hyderabad)

We have given Intel and you are not working is the BS. In Indian cities what is needed is POTA style laws so that they can preemptively eradicate future attacks. These are not some drone based/missile/air based attacks. There is no chance (including Mumbai Taj style attacks) without complicity from locals. The local modules are definitely on the police radar and they know whom to be eliminated to keep the cities safe. Continuous eradication of such modules and sleeper cells is the only way forward and there should be willingness to do such things.
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Here is some 'you should have told us, you should have asked us' discussion

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It is now being debated whether the Delhi police had shared this information with their counterparts in Hyderabad.

An officer from Hyderabad said, “This information was never shared with us by the Delhi police. We cannot go by media reports and if there was a specific mention of Hyderabad, it ought to have to been communicated to us officially.”

The Delhi police, however, maintained that the tip-offs were passed on. An officer said that information was given promptly to the Maharashtra police and they in turn even released pictures of Waqas and Tabrez, who are being considered as suspects in the Hyderabad blasts.

The Delhi police, however, point out that Maqbool is the bigger suspect, as he had vital information about the Hyderabad terror operation.

According to Delhi police officials, the local police and special cell (Hyderabad) had information about Maqbool. They should have followed up the case as soon as he was arrested and sough more details.

This information had also been passed on to the Intelligence Bureau, which had issued alerts to many police stations including Hyderabad, they claim.
And the State govt. wakes up,

15-special-teams-formed-to-crack-hyderabad-blasts-case
Fifteen special teams have been set up to crack the Dilsukhnagar twin blasts case even as the Andhra Pradesh government on Saturday announced steps to ramp up security including installation of 3,500 CCTV cameras at vital points.
The escape of 4 suspects around the 7/11 Mumbai attack in Zaveri bazar and one suspect's escape on Jan 18th 2013 from Dilsukhnagar area suggests that police aren't good at passive surveillance, by the time action teams arrive they are gone
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Congress may push for NCTC which will give IB arrest powers. Guess who they will target first...
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For Wasey, it’s truly life beyond death
I guess that the uber-secular "The Hindu" would now be crying over the publishing of this report. The Hyderabad "bobbies" now feel that this chap may be one of the culprits. In such a sensitive situation likes that I don't think the police would allow leaking of any information which leads to rumour mongering.
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During such events, emergency services should be able to send SMSes to all phones close to the site based on cell phone tower coverage requesting them to record video or take photos, cell phone service provides give free data time so that all videos and photos can be voluntarily uploaded by aam aadmis, and on the govt lab side they could all be photo stitched to create a composite picture/video along with CCTV feeds (if any) that can provide more clues.

They are already allowing free medical services by private hospitals in such emergent situations.
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There are CCTV feeds. Police are narrowing down to cycle clad person and who is in the injured list as well.
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"increasing security", "increasing surveillance", "upgrading emergency services", "training police" yada yada yada are all half measures until we start hitting back hard. :evil:
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As as aside.....there was the matter of Bhagyashree temple structure coming next to Charminar.
And there were some curfew-type situations late last year as a result.
Could that have any role in the current matter? Just wondering aloud. Not sure either way.
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I guess that the uber-secular "The Hindu" would now be crying over the publishing of this report. The Hyderabad "bobbies" now feel that this chap may be one of the culprits. In such a sensitive situation likes that I don't think the police would allow leaking of any information which leads to rumour mongering.
Since he was injured in the Mecca Masjid blasts too, this is going to be really hot if he turns out a cog in the wheel. It may/ will rather open a can of worms on the Aseemanand case. What are the statistical chances anyways of an Abdul getting into 2 blasts that kill/ injure x people out of 12 million twice in two disparate locations? Back of the envelop calcs run in 1 in trillions at the least..
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Eenadu hhad a picture of one of the old bicycle used in the blast.

Front tire is missing showing the location of the bomb.

Cant find it now!

Eenadu story in Telugu
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ramana wrote:Eenadu hhad a picture of one of the old bicycle used in the blast.

Front tire is missing showing the location of the bomb.

Cant find it now!

Eenadu story in Telugu
You can pick it up from archives. Front page same link puts that day's news everyday. I see the pic at the bottom of this link.
http://archives.eenadu.net/02-22-2013/n ... panel&no=1
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Why would any islamic terrorist organisation carry out an attack right before the gen elections?

Any terrorist org would want the UPA to be in power since they indirectly support their activities.. Now they risk the people becoming more critical of the current dispensation and hence more chances of bringing a new coalition to power which may not be so soft...

Bad timing for an attack i'd say from the POV of a terrorist org...
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^ remember how 11/26 played out. BJP's call for tough action was twisted as jingoism, war-mongering, fanaticism and communal hatred. And how it propelled UPA2
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On path to being a productive and egalitarian member of S.Asia, the nation is levelling its base level acceptance of terrorism to that of other S.Asian nations. The terrorist attacks have become so common place, that the public interest is exactly all of 1 to 2 days, if lucky. Else, it has lost the shock value unless the magnitude of it is substantially more than anything that has happened before.

The press will milk it for some time to show their loyalty to their handlers.
The politicians will continue to twitter "thankfully, only cattle class has been affected, time to move on and maintain peace and calm".
Aam admi will pray that she will not get caught in wrong time in wrong place.
Administrators will chide the aam admi to recognize "that wrong places/wrong times are ever expanding" and ask to impose self restriction to avoid wrong place/wrong time/no go areas. Their hands are tied to facilitate the expansion of "wrong place/wrong times".

Coming as to why islamists will choose to attack at this time? Islamics always have a reason to attack all the time. The very existence of dar-ul-harb, nay the reason for being islamists is to attack and show of street violence. But, there are less opportune times to conduct the attacks.
While the politicians/powers that be are either busy
1) covering up a previous scam or
2) plotting a new scam to fleece the aam junta or
3) spouting some vote buying platitudes,
then it is perfect opportune time for islamists to strike.

So, the aam admi who has been captivated by scams is now temporarily distracted. So, two things are accomplished by this.
1) the focus on scams are diluted, when one goes to the polls.
2) the tolerance for terrorism has been enhanced, it does not figure in aam admi when he goes to polls.
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ramana wrote:Eenadu had a picture of one of the old bicycle used in the blast.

Back tire is missing showing the location of the bomb.

Cant find it now!

Eenadu story in Telugu
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As far as the 'twice lucky', though the police have questioned him, has he become a prime suspect? Though it is strange for a man with a limp (some reports say he lost a leg) man to go seven kilometers for a chai, he is still innocent, no? Is it just a needle of suspicion?

Some news items make him a 23 year, one makes him a 25 year. They cannot get an age right?
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What is shocking in the aftermath of this attack,is that the head of the so-called IM,a Paki proxy,was actually under custody and let off! This indicates a shocking attitude to prosecuting terror.In the US,suspects have without any warning been picked up and sent round theworld in "rendition" flights to secret concentration camps,tortured for years and then most of them let off as they were innocent!

One is not advocating following that extreme criminal procedure,but ,when a "terror" suspect is being held,there should be a more stringent regime for holding him,giving time for the investigating agencies to ascertain from the rest of the country whether the suspect is on their list,etc.This requires real-time transmitting and receiving of full info,mugshots,prints,etc.,characteristics which can be matched with a computer.During the "holding" period,the suspect should be given access to all legal help as in any other case,but terror suspects should be investigated with the most intense investigations possible,before a delayed release .One is sure that there are enough software programmes around available with investigating authorities,which can detect the slightest connection between terror suspects and attacks around the country,from family/friends connections,"social" afilliations (suspect organisations),travel records,etc.each state should also have its own fully fledged anti-terror HQ networked with the Central agencies.Unless there is mutual cooperation between the states and Centre,expect more attacks to take us by surprise.
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we are in the twilight zone, until we get good coverage of bio-metrics and police stations cannot collect prints and mugshots on the spot to cross verify the identity we will have this problem. One would expect all those jailed , in custody people, passport seekers, visa seekers at foreign consulates, port of entries to be prioritized for this, alas no HM is so far has been proactive. Gulf travellers are a big gap in the current coverage.

Nakabandi wouldn't be effective if you can't verify the real identity in the field. Most of the ids issued in India even by the so called govt. agencies can be faked. Even for the bio-metric program a center in Old city tried to fake by issuing a lot of Aadhar nos under handicapped category which exempts prints

Anyways, one would expect CCTV feeds especially railway stations and other transport hubs to be compared aganist the most wanted men list in real time
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Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13

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Philip ji

Yesterday's eenadu news paper says that senior Police officers were forced by politicians to not arrest Muslim youth under suspecion, because if the case is not proved they are getting whipped. So police need to be 100% sure and have the whole case investigated before making any arrests.

This is a known thing. What is unknown is that some senior police officers themselves are not allowing certain investigations and arrests when the involved are Muslims. Apparently there was a case where a Muslim leader fired his gun or threatened someone with gun. The interesting thing is that his gun license was revoked 5 years ago. But the police are not allowed to put a case on him for possession of illegal arms and arrest him
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SwamyG wrote:As far as the 'twice lucky', though the police have questioned him, has he become a prime suspect? Though it is strange for a man with a limp (some reports say he lost a leg) man to go seven kilometers for a chai, he is still innocent, no? Is it just a needle of suspicion?

Some news items make him a 23 year, one makes him a 25 year. They cannot get an age right?
He could still be innocent, but the larger group he is associated with has some links to the event. He may or may not realize that. But his being there twice can give the investigators enough clues to pursue.
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I think the investigation officers also need to look into all the folks who participated in the rally below



this was the pro-afzal guru rally in hyderabad, the only one other than the one in kashmir.
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Faking IDs is child's play for them

Hyderabad blasts: Syed Maqbool met ISI agents in Nellore
Nellore jail superintendent Ravi Kiran told TOI that Maqbool visited the prison by producing a voter ID card as proof on January 4, 2012 and may have met the two inmates again under different identities.
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Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13

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Ind Express reports Wasey's story checks out. He was just unlucky go be injured twice.
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15 Crack Teams to Probe Blasts - The Hindu
She {Andhra Pradesh Home Minister, P. Sabitha Indra Reddy} said the government had decided to install closed-circuit (CC) cameras within the next six months at about 3,500 locations in the city at an estimated cost of Rs. 450-crore .
It is all fine as knee jerk reaction. But, ma'm make sure that all existing cameras work all right, there is enough trained manpower to attend to the monitors round the clock, that there is enough budget allocated to maintain them periodically and fix problems as soon as they are reported etc.
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Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13

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The blasts killed 5 young students amongst killed atleast; with many more students also amongst injured.

A detailed information should be available of injured students too.
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ramana wrote:Ind Express reports Wasey's story checks out. He was just unlucky go be injured twice.
The probability against such an occurring is quite high. My math is quite rusty, but this could be a 1 in 10 to the power 12 kinda thing. Can somebody who is a little less rusty in mathematics put forth their thoughts about this?
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Anindya, mine is even rustier and therefore I would say 1 in 10 to the power of 15 or thereabouts.
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