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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 18:43
by UlanBatori
Africa braces...

madhuji I wonder from the above whether a few "robust" ingestions of 65% ethanol will also be effective internally... (not kidding). Nothing else seems to work per the reports. Wonder why peroxide and chlorate are effective - the boogers prefer to attack the lungs after all, highest available oxygen concentration.
From web:
Vodka on the other hand is a simple mixture of ethanol and water, a classic vodka composition is usually 40% alcohol(ethanol) by volume
At least Russia is safe.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 19:02
by Arun.prabhu
You need near 140 proof vodka. The Russians are saved, even so. :)
UlanBatori wrote:Africa braces...

madhuji I wonder from the above whether a few "robust" ingestions of 65% ethanol will also be effective internally... (not kidding). Nothing else seems to work per the reports. Wonder why peroxide and chlorate are effective - the boogers prefer to attack the lungs after all, highest available oxygen concentration.
From web:
Vodka on the other hand is a simple mixture of ethanol and water, a classic vodka composition is usually 40% alcohol(ethanol) by volume
At least Russia is safe.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 19:58
by SriKumar
Looks like Beijing itself is shut down...streets and even metro train stations are empty. I would not be surprised if this is the situation in ALL medium to large cities and towns in Eastern portion China (The Chinese person in an average city will not know how many among them came from Wuhan, or who among them came into contact with anyone who visited Wuhan. They'll be paranoid. If your husband/wife/kid can be forcibly taken away from their homes upon contracting the virus, I would be paranoid about the virus too; I would be paranoid about who my neighbors were in contact with). Inter-city travel would probably be on hold too (trains, planes). Dont know how Chinese govt. allowed this video to come out. The scale of the desolation is amazing for bustling city like Beijing, reminiscent of Hollywood movies of post-apocalyptic situations. Poor time for a pun here but it does look like a 'Forbidden City' (a palace complex in Beijing ) right now. This must be a severe hit to the business, and national GDP....(But those figures are fudged anyway and can be fudged again).

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 20:24
by tandav
Desolation aside, the infrastructure is top notch. Our citizens also deserve such public assets.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 21:08
by chola
tandav wrote:Desolation aside, the infrastructure is top notch. Our citizens also deserve such public assets.
Yes, it is noted in other forums (economic ones) with all the empty city videos being shown of Cheen because of the virus. Japanese and Korean posters said even if you quarantined Seoul and Tokyo, they won't be this empty because the population is too dense. Cheen's cities are designed with a massive amount of space dedicated to public transportation, public institutions like libraries and museums (good propaganda tools), public recreational areas and most of all, ginormous public high rises for living quarters. Eleven million (Wuhan) or 20 million (Beijing) people can simply disappear into the infrastructure. The Japanese and Korean government can never afford to do the same because they need to pay fair prices for land. But in Cheen the government owns everything so they can actually plan.

The problems that Japan and Korea face vis a vis Cheen is a thousand times worse in India. Seriously, if we were to quarantine Mumbai or Chennai then the streets would still be full of people. Desis wouldn't listen to start off with but the density per square area really makes it hard to separate people.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 21:34
by saip
The problems that Japan and Korea face vis a vis Cheen is a thousand times worse in India. Seriously, if we were to quarantine Mumbai or Chennai then the streets would still be full of people. Desis wouldn't listen to start off with but the density per square area really makes it hard to separate people.
Yes, they will be filled with protestors, stone pelters, bus burners and train derailers.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 21:53
by chola
^^^ LoL.

This is Shanghai:


How can that city be that empty? This is New York, Mumbai or London going dark. Scary to even look at for desis, imagine the Indians stuck there. We are so use to being around a lot of people all the time.

Their economy is shot, at least for the first part of the year if not all of it.

Again, nice infrastructure. If Bollywood could get a film crew in there we can make the first Indian sci-fi zombie flick!

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 21:57
by V_Raman
We all are being too dramatic. If there is an issue like nCoV, then Indian streets will look deserted as well.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:00
by SriKumar
tandav wrote:Desolation aside, the infrastructure is top notch. Our citizens also deserve such public assets.
I think it is more accurate to say 'our citizens deserve the leaders they elect'. Come election time, gyaani BRF posters revel in their deep knowledge of castes and their voting patterns (UP, Bihar, Karnataka, A.P., MP, MAharashtra- you name it) and who they might vote for, and what Amit Shah should do to woo these castes. I am totally lost reading them. Then you have people voting for free electricity and water (Kejriwal). Infrastructure money and land allocations are the primary targets for these caste-based politicians. ALready there is news of Uddhav giving Sharad Pawar prime land for some 'public good' at a price that even I can afford. Good infrastructure for deserving citizens aint happenin' anytime soon. Sorry for the OT.

Chola-
the Shanghai video is scary. For a passenger transit hub in a metro to be that empty is amazing. Hollywood has nothing on this real-world shot.
I checked other videos for SHanghai and could not find anything like this. As I mentioned in a post last page, this does not surprise me. The govt must be enforcing this and this is not people staying home out of their own volition.

Waiting for Lancet to come out with an article on the psychological trauma for people quarantined in a city like Shanghai (like they did for Cashmere). But these guys have internet....or whatever the Chinese govt will allow. Price of oil should fall further. I dont know if the price of goods in Walmart, Target, Best Buy etc. will rise (that would cause a riot stateside :D ).

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:10
by chola
^^^ True, Kumar ji. There are many democracies in the world with better infrastructure than Cheen. But not only do they elect responsible leaders in places like Germany and Scandinavia, the voters there also take responsibilities for that good infrastructure by paying some of the highest tax rates in the world. They know nothing is free and is willing to fund good infrastructure for the society as a whole instead of selfish perks for individual constituencies.

It is not just the babus, unfortunately, it is the mindset of the electorate, the people, as well. Will desis ever be willing to pay our share for the public good? We know the answer. If we had the tax rate of northern Europe, the black market will overwhelm the white one, DeMo or no.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:12
by madhu
Something is not adding up. How can a flu virus with just 2% kill ratio create so much panic that it has locked full country. Why so much of cleaning and spraying. Did they do it for SARS in 2003?
There are many videos where people just collapse on road. How can that happen even assuming the virus is deadly? If one or two then I would say its a crazy video to fool people but there are quite a few.
Where is china president? He has not issued any statement nor a tweet. More confusion than answers.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:15
by SriKumar
chola wrote:^^^ True, Kumar ji. There are many democracies in the world with better infrastructure than Cheen. But not only do they elect responsible leaders in places like Germany and Scandinavia, the voters there also take responsibilities for that good infrastructure by paying some of the highest tax rates in the world. They know nothing is free and is willing to fund good infrastructure for the society as a whole instead of selfish perks for individual constituencies.
No 'ji for me, saar. In an anonymous internet forum, I dont use and do not expect any honorifics. That Shanghai video was a find, man :eek: . I looked for it but could not locate anything like it, only suspecting that Shanghai would have problems too. Shocking to see 2 large cities- one way north and one way south, in the same (apocalyptic) boat. Very surprised to see these videos actually making it out of Cheen. THe million $ question is: how will they declare that it is safe to come out again. Might take months.

Madhu
IMHO, the public compliance is due to the government's fiat being followed, rather people complying voluntarily. Public knows their govt can make them disappear, just like their posts on their bulletin boards/web fora.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:24
by Bart S
I think that a lot of people would have gone home for CNY but not returned, hence adding to the lack of crowds.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:33
by ldev
madhu wrote:Something is not adding up. How can a flu virus with just 2% kill ratio create so much panic that it has locked full country. Why so much of cleaning and spraying. Did they do it for SARS in 2003?
There are many videos where people just collapse on road. How can that happen even assuming the virus is deadly? If one or two then I would say its a crazy video to fool people but there are quite a few.
Where is china president? He has not issued any statement nor a tweet. More confusion than answers.
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“Sulfur dioxide gas in Wuhan, commonly associated with the burning of organic matters”. What are they burning? #coronavirus #coronavirusoutbreak #wuhan

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@inteldotwav
This is from 4chins so take this with a grain of salt, but one poster extrapolated from the SO2 release data and estimated 14,000 bodies would have to be burnt to reach this level of emissions.
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:41
by chola
^^^ Holy crap! It gets more and more horrid. This thing is really like a sci-fi horror flick.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:48
by Gyan
I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?

Also, if it's a mild infection, why is Chinese Govt unable to prevent deaths by simple treatments like hydration, oxygen breathing support, saline drip, etc?

Are we in India, taking this thing too lightly?

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 22:56
by sampat
Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?
According to WHO, cronovirus survives in hot and humid weather . I don't think change in weather will bring any respite. :cry:

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 23:04
by chola
Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?

Also, if it's a mild infection, why is Chinese Govt unable to prevent deaths by simple treatments like hydration, oxygen breathing support, saline drip, etc?

Are we in India, taking this thing too lightly?
Right now the infection and especially the death rate outside Cheen is extremely low. The last thing we need is panic and economic contagion spreading outside Cheen. Without panic, we can sit back and watch a horror movie developing in Cheen. With panic and economic activities shut down in country after country for fear of virus spread and we will have 2008 all over.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 23:27
by vijayk
https://twitter.com/NCOVNEWS/status/1226370459341426688

Residents are welded inside their apartment blocks and left to die. #CoronaVirus.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 23:45
by sanjaykumar
ldev wrote:
madhu wrote:Something is not adding up. How can a flu virus with just 2% kill ratio create so much panic that it has locked full country. Why so much of cleaning and spraying. Did they do it for SARS in 2003?
There are many videos where people just collapse on road. How can that happen even assuming the virus is deadly? If one or two then I would say its a crazy video to fool people but there are quite a few.
Where is china president? He has not issued any statement nor a tweet. More confusion than answers.
Image

24/7 Crisis News LIVE ☢
@livecrisisnews
·
16h
“Sulfur dioxide gas in Wuhan, commonly associated with the burning of organic matters”. What are they burning? #coronavirus #coronavirusoutbreak #wuhan

source: http://windy.com

@inteldotwav
This is from 4chins so take this with a grain of salt, but one poster extrapolated from the SO2 release data and estimated 14,000 bodies would have to be burnt to reach this level of emissions.
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Very unlikely due to incineration of human bodies.

-In an epidemic it is ridiculous to stockpile bodies before incineration, the idea is to destroy the virus as soon as possible, good hygiene would be to incinerate as soon as possible.

-it could be stockpiles of dead animals, those left without food due to disruption in the food supply or unavailability of staff to feed them.

-need to look at other spectral frequencies. Sulfur is present in certain amino acids as a major source of biological sulfur. But a diesel or bunker fuel fire will also release SO2. Other spectral signatures, pyrolysis products etc should make the discrimination possible.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 09 Feb 2020 23:56
by Arun.prabhu
The virus uses ACE2 receptor to gain entry into cells. ACE 2 receptors are far more common in East Asians - 5 times as much - as in other races. East Asians are like buffet for the damn thing.
chola wrote:
Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?

Also, if it's a mild infection, why is Chinese Govt unable to prevent deaths by simple treatments like hydration, oxygen breathing support, saline drip, etc?

Are we in India, taking this thing too lightly?
Right now the infection and especially the death rate outside Cheen is extremely low. The last thing we need is panic and economic contagion spreading outside Cheen. Without panic, we can sit back and watch a horror movie developing in Cheen. With panic and economic activities shut down in country after country for fear of virus spread and we will have 2008 all over.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:05
by Arun.prabhu
Btw, it was discovered that SARS, which uses the same ACE 2 receptor, did not work well when ACE 2 Receptor blockers were being used to block the ACE 2 receptors. Any of the Sartan medications for hypertension will work.

https://www.rndsystems.com/resources/ar ... identified

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:09
by sanjaykumar
ARB block the angiotensin receptor on endothelial cells, not ACE receptors.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:13
by Arun.prabhu
And there I was congratulating myself on a nice little piece of research. :(
sanjaykumar wrote:ARB block the angiotensin receptor on endothelial cells, not ACE receptors.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:20
by Arun.prabhu
How SARS infects and presumably nCoV as well...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1287568/

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:21
by Gyan
There are news reports of doctors trying Anti HIV viral drugs & chloroquine against nCV.

China with it massive industrial base should be easily able to ramp up production of anti viral drugs and chloroquine. Spray streets & public places with anti viral chemicals etc.

Chinese inability to control this epidemic is becoming more mysterious by the day.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:22
by sanjaykumar
Arun.prabhu wrote:And there I was congratulating myself on a nice little piece of research. :(
sanjaykumar wrote:ARB block the angiotensin receptor on endothelial cells, not ACE receptors.

No problem, at least you are exploring.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:26
by Gyan
sampat wrote:
Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?
According to WHO, cronovirus survives in hot and humid weather . I don't think change in weather will bring any respite. :cry:

India is pretty hot in April & May without being humid. Hopefully this will decrease the chance of problems in India.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:29
by ldev
sanjaykumar wrote: -In an epidemic it is ridiculous to stockpile bodies before incineration, the idea is to destroy the virus as soon as possible, good hygiene would be to incinerate as soon as possible.

-it could be stockpiles of dead animals, those left without food due to disruption in the food supply or unavailability of staff to feed them.
This theory pre-supposes that dead bodies were burnt every day but animals were stockpiled, all in the panic and confusion of the outbreak. What does not help the official narrative is the release of the following official data showing deaths/infections:

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@Charlie_Box
· Feb 8
#coronavirus is master of math!
1/30: 170/7821 = 2,1%,
1/31: 213/9800 = 2,1%,
2/01: 259/11880 = 2,1%,
2/02: 304/14401 = 2,1%,
2/03: 361/17238 = 2,1%,
2/04: 429/20471 = 2,1%,
2/05: 493/24441 = 2,1%
2/06: 564/28605 = 2,1%

Right now: 724/34677 AGAIN = 2,1%.
..
Wow!! 2.1% every single day.....amazing coincidence....

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:31
by Arun.prabhu
More research. Indians are kinda middle of the world wrt to ACE2 receptor expression.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/An ... ion_detail
sanjaykumar wrote:
Arun.prabhu wrote:And there I was congratulating myself on a nice little piece of research. :(

No problem, at least you are exploring.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:41
by Rahul M
The blog linked above mentioned that the novcor strain was engineered to target something called ACE2 receptors, which is primarily found in Chinese DNA.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 00:50
by sooraj
ldev wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote: -In an epidemic it is ridiculous to stockpile bodies before incineration, the idea is to destroy the virus as soon as possible, good hygiene would be to incinerate as soon as possible.

-it could be stockpiles of dead animals, those left without food due to disruption in the food supply or unavailability of staff to feed them.
This theory pre-supposes that dead bodies were burnt every day but animals were stockpiled, all in the panic and confusion of the outbreak. What does not help the official narrative is the release of the following official data showing deaths/infections:

22
@Charlie_Box
· Feb 8
#coronavirus is master of math!
1/30: 170/7821 = 2,1%,
1/31: 213/9800 = 2,1%,
2/01: 259/11880 = 2,1%,
2/02: 304/14401 = 2,1%,
2/03: 361/17238 = 2,1%,
2/04: 429/20471 = 2,1%,
2/05: 493/24441 = 2,1%
2/06: 564/28605 = 2,1%

Right now: 724/34677 AGAIN = 2,1%.
..
Wow!! 2.1% every single day.....amazing coincidence....
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Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 01:03
by sanjaykumar
This is the end of China as we know it.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 01:39
by vimal
There are all sorts of speculations going around in Internet. There are some folks tweeting that all this is just a cover for Xi to get rid of dissenters.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 02:00
by UlanBatori
Wow!! 2.1% every single day.....amazing coincidence....
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Obviously bogus "data". Deserted streets in daytime may have been taken on CNY.. unless they have holidays on Snow Days. Isn't it strange that video was taken (2 ppl walking one behind the other) with no hindrance, though no one else is seen? Where are the soldiers in Mao jackets holding AK47s? I think this is all hype. Then again, strange that Eleven has not declared victory YET.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 02:01
by UlanBatori
Here u go: 400% leriabre lepolt! Remember the SCMP during the Doklam tamasha?
Chinese diplomat pushes back against coronavirus ‘rumours’ from Republican Party senator
Ambassador Cui Tiankai slammed comments from Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton
This story is published in a content partnership with POLITICO. It was originally reported by David Beavers on politico.com
on February 9, 2020.

Chinese Ambassador to the US Cui Tiankai on Sunday pushed back on what he called “suspicion” and “rumours” about the origins of the Wuhan coronavirus. In an interview with CBS’ Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation, Cui acknowledged that “a lot is still unknown, and our scientists, Chinese scientist, American scientists, scientists of other countries are doing their best to learn more about the virus.”
But when asked about comments made last week by Senator Tom Cotton – who, according to Brennan, suggested the virus may have come from China’s biological warfare program – Cui did not mince words.
“It's very harmful, it’s very dangerous to stir up suspicion, rumours and spread them among the people,” he said Sunday. “For one thing, this will create panic. Another thing is that it will fan up racial discrimination, xenophobia, all these things that will really harm our joint efforts to combat the virus.”
After the show aired Sunday, Cotton took to Twitter to defend himself.
“.@ambcuitianki
, here’s what’s not a conspiracy, not a theory: Fact: China lied about virus starting in Wuhan food market,” the Arkansas Republican wrote in one post.
.@ambcuitianki
, here’s what’s not a conspiracy, not a theory:
Cotton added in a second post: “Fact: super-lab is just a few miles from that market[.] Where did it start? We don’t know. But burden of proof is on you & fellow communists. Open up now to competent international scientists,” seemingly referencing a laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
The Chinese diplomat also defended China’s treatment of Li Wenliang, a doctor who alerted authorities about the outbreak. He was scolded and silenced by police and has since succumbed to the disease himself.
“We are all very saddened about the death of Dr Li. He was a good doctor. He was a devoted doctor, and he did his best to protect people’s health. We are so grateful to him,” Cui said. “I don't know who tried to silence him, but there was certainly a disagreement or people were not able to reach agreement on what exactly the virus is, how it is affecting people.”
“Maybe some people reacted not quickly enough. Maybe Dr. Li, he perceived some incoming dangers earlier than others, but this could happen anywhere, but whenever we find there's some shortcoming, we’ll do our best to correct it,” he added.

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9 Feb 2020
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Want to avoid coronavirus? Forget face masks, top airline doctor says
6 Feb 2020
Protective face masks being made at a factory in Shanghai, China. People across the globe are stockpiling masks to protect themselves from the new coronavirus, depleting online malls and store shelves from California to Beijing. Photo: Bloomberg

Wuhan may be home to 75,815 infected with coronavirus, report says (this is SCMP!!!) :eek:

Police confiscate mahjong tiles as they enforce the order that people refrain from playing. Photo: WeiboPolice confiscate mahjong tiles as they enforce the order that people refrain from playing. Photo: Weibo
Authorities from China have been dealing with some unusual challenges in enforcing coronavirus
containment, including mahjong addicts who refuse to give up the game and rumours featuring a talking pig.
To contain the spread of the virus, Chinese authorities have locked down Hubei province, which has about 60 million residents. Throughout the country, the public has been discouraged from going outside or attending gatherings. Several cities have introduced rules such as compulsory wearing of masks at all times in public spaces.

However, not everyone has been following the rules.
Mahjong is a popular card-like game played with tiles and each game requires four people. Police in cities in least three provinces have had to break up mahjong parlours and confiscate tiles from residents in the past two weeks, according to media reports.
Coronavirus: Police in China smash mahjong tables to stop villagers from gathering

On Thursday, the health commission in the eastern province of Zhejiang said a county in Quzhou had recorded locally transmitted cases linked to playing mahjong. As a result, officials from Jiuhua county confiscated more than 600 mahjong tiles from residents, removing selected tiles from each set.
“In rural places, it’s normal to play mahjong over Lunar New Year,” county official Zheng Shihua said in a report by online platform Pear Video. “But we’ve been telling them to stop. Some listened and some didn’t. There are always a couple of households that hide from us.”
The tiles would be returned to residents after the outbreak was over, he said.
Unmanned grocery store built to fight coronavirus at new Wuhan hospital
5 Feb 2020

Elsewhere, a video posted online showed police in Maanshan in Anhui province, neighbouring Zhejiang, taking hammers to mahjong tables, sending tiles flying.
Pets abandoned by people fleeing the coronavirus outbreak in China
Police destroyed 16 mahjong tables after inspecting about 40 households in the operation on January 28, Maanshan Daily reported.

The authorities have also had to debunk rumours that have sprung up during the outbreak, some veering towards the absurd.
A rumour that emerged on February 5, about a talking pig, went viral in the southern province of Guizhou. The rumour was that a pig had spoken to its owner and told them cooking and eating nine eggs before sunrise would prevent them contracting the coronavirus, Guizhou Metropolis Daily reported.
Many people apparently believed the rumour and shared photos of themselves cooking eggs on social media, according to the report.
On the same day, police tracked down the woman blamed for starting the rumour. According to a statement by the police, she had sent the misinformation after reading that eating eggs could strengthen the immune system, and was detained for 10 days as a punishment.

Coronavirus won’t turn you into a zombie, Malaysia says
:eek:

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 02:02
by saip
Gyan wrote:I have a naive question? Will the virus die off with the change of weather ie coming of summers?

Also, if it's a mild infection, why is Chinese Govt unable to prevent deaths by simple treatments like hydration, oxygen breathing support, saline drip, etc?

Are we in India, taking this thing too lightly?
Our expert of everything in the White House seems to think so but experts are not so sure.
This thing is reminding of War of the World, the world being China. Trump tried everything to bring Chinese economy to its knees. But this little virus seems to have done it.

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 02:22
by g.sarkar
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/worl ... china.html
Coronavirus Live Updates: Deaths in China Surpass Toll From SARS
More than 800 people have died from the new virus in China. The 2002-3 epidemic, which also began in the country, killed 774 people worldwide.

Here’s what you need to know:
The new coronavirus has killed more people than SARS did.
Nine relatives are infected after a family meal.
Quarantine ends for cruise ship held in Hong Kong.
More cases are reported in Britain and Spain.
Automakers are feeling the pinch of plant closings.
The new coronavirus has killed more people than SARS did.

The coronavirus death toll in China has risen to 811, surpassing the toll from the SARS epidemic of 2002-3, according to official data released on Sunday.
The number of confirmed infections rose to 37,198, according to China’s National Health Commission. Eighty-nine deaths and 2,656 new cases were recorded in the preceding 24 hours, most of them in Hubei Province, the heart of the outbreak. A United States citizen died from the coronavirus in Wuhan, the provincial capital, American officials said on Saturday.
The SARS epidemic, which also began in China, killed 774 people worldwide. There have been only two confirmed deaths from the new coronavirus outside mainland China: one in Hong Kong and one in the Philippines.
Many doctors believe that deaths and infections from the current epidemic are undercounted in China because testing facilities are under severe strain.
The number of new cases has stabilized in recent days, but World Health Organization officials cautioned against reading too much into those figures, saying that Wuhan and Hubei were in the midst of a “very intense outbreak.”
“It’s very, very early to make any predictions,” said Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of the W.H.O.’s health emergencies program.
The measures put in place in Hubei appear to be “paying off,” said Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the W.H.O.’s director general, but he warned that outbreaks like these are unpredictable. “We have to understand it with caution because it can show stability for a few days and then they can shoot up,” he said. “I’ve said it many times: It’s slow now, but it may accelerate.”
.....
Xi stays out of the spotlight, but he might not escape blame.
For China’s leader, Xi Jinping, the outbreak is not just a health crisis, but a political one: a test of the authoritarian system he has built around himself. As his government struggles to contain the virus amid rising public discontent with its performance, the changes that Mr. Xi has ushered in could make it difficult for him to escape blame.
“It’s a big shock to the legitimacy of the ruling party,” said Rong Jian, a writer about politics in Beijing. “I think it could be only second to the June 4 incident of 1989. It’s that big,” he said, referring to the armed crackdown on Tiananmen Square protesters that year.
“There’s no doubt about his control over power,” he added, “but the manner of control and its consequences have hurt his legitimacy and reputation.”
Mr. Xi has recognized what is at stake, calling the outbreak “a major test of China’s system and capacity for governance.” As China’s battle with the coronavirus intensified, Mr. Xi put the country’s No. 2 leader, Li Keqiang, in charge of a leadership group handling the emergency, effectively turning him into the public face of the government’s response. It was Mr. Li who traveled to Wuhan to visit doctors.
.....
Gautam

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 02:24
by UlanBatori
CMP: Experimental drug remdesivir moves closer to possible approval for use as clinical trial begins.

I must say that UBCN deeply apologizes for dissing CV as a Black Swan Event. :(( China has clearly failed to contain the infection, and it now dominates the news.
Imagine (well, I hope it doesn't become real) an infection breaking out in Indore - and within a month, Mumbai Dilli ad Kolkatta, as well as Chennail and B'luru are shut down!!!
These days everyone who visits Ahmedabad seems to catch cold, cough and flu. So how far removed are we from cataclysm?

Re: Wuhan Coronavirus Resource Thread

Posted: 10 Feb 2020 02:26
by chola
Rahul M wrote:The blog linked above mentioned that the novcor strain was engineered to target something called ACE2 receptors, which is primarily found in Chinese DNA.
How true is this? It would make no sense for the Wuhan biolab to target chinese DNA and not goras' since their top rival is white-majority.

If true, this supports Goatherder's CT. The world is moving into a sci-fi nightmare.

This is pandora's box if proven. Race targeting even without open warfare. You can bring down the economy of any rival with the thing with little affect to your own population with different DNA.