Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
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Sri, now a lot guys are under pressure, but a normal person would not plan for year(s), send wife-kids to safety, come back and go about implementing his murderous plan. Under pressure the inside guy comes out. Some fight it out, others give up. A paki will blame everyone (read India) and plan a mass murder. Its the inherent pakiness that came out.
Education, upbringing yada yada yada are the parameters we use to define a normal person, but for a psychotic neurotic sociopath .....
Sri, now a lot guys are under pressure, but a normal person would not plan for year(s), send wife-kids to safety, come back and go about implementing his murderous plan. Under pressure the inside guy comes out. Some fight it out, others give up. A paki will blame everyone (read India) and plan a mass murder. Its the inherent pakiness that came out.
Education, upbringing yada yada yada are the parameters we use to define a normal person, but for a psychotic neurotic sociopath .....
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Anujan saheb, I always felt that some of the RAPEs who write in English language newspapers in TSP have been ardent followers of BRf. Incidents like this confirm that feeling.Anujan wrote:Ejaz Haider is now stealing BENIS articles?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
A bit of sound and fury on BBC Question Time on the issue of the two paki AlQaeda suspects whose deportation to pakistan has been stopped by the court. Shami Chakravarti beats up pakistan a fair bit. Watch the first 20 min. For people outside UK, use proxy server.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 0_05_2010/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... 0_05_2010/
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Sri, Shazad's change happened in c. 2005, well before the economic downturn and the attendant misery. Some of those in that situation have taken their own lives but few have decided to wreak massive havoc like the way Shahzad attempted to do. Again, he invoked religion as a cloak to cover his attempt which goes back to the fact that some of the deeply religious minds of practitioners of Islam easily become fundamentalist and then quickly violent.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Sri
You are 1/4 right, but that might be irrelevant. Let me elaborate:
Many Indians, many of them my friends with young kids and newly married wife left the US en-masse during the IT bust of 2002. Bulk of them who had gone to US during the Y2K and dotcom boom. So much so that the airport parking lot of SFO used to be packed with abandoned shiny cars which these people left behind because they did not have the money to pay for them or the time to sell them at a reasonable price. Thieves used to note down plates of these cars and steal them after 2-3 days!! There were yard sales everywhere, flights to India was packed! I still remember that vividly, I was a young grad student back then.
Capitalism is a harsh master. During the 2008 bust, many of my friends were actually called when they were driving home from work that they need not show up the next day. A few got the messages in their voicemails. One of my friends was away in south america for a project, he was called there and told that he was laid off - the company did not bother to book him a ticket back home, he did not know if he could re-enter the US without a job (and hence without a valid H1B), heck the company did not even reimburse his hotel and travel!!
How many Indians set off bombs then?
Having said that you are 1/4 right because I think that when people are under stress, they regress to familiar feelings and surroundings with which they are comfortable. That is usually what you are fed with when you are a child. Think of that as the inner Pakistaniyat. A Paki might grow up, get educated, get a job, become respectable -- but at the first hint of stress or opportunity, the inner Pakistaniyat surfaces. Why only 1/4? Because that alone is not the explanation. These people with growing inner Pakistaniyat are systematically identified & trained by "Rouge ISI & Army" (who are in fact, the "Pure ISI & Army"), aided and abetted in their terror efforts.
I fear how the 5-15 year olds of today in Pakistan will be like 15-20 years from now, especially given the rapid advances in mass communication for them to be bitten by the Jihadi bug, only to surface later.
You are 1/4 right, but that might be irrelevant. Let me elaborate:
Many Indians, many of them my friends with young kids and newly married wife left the US en-masse during the IT bust of 2002. Bulk of them who had gone to US during the Y2K and dotcom boom. So much so that the airport parking lot of SFO used to be packed with abandoned shiny cars which these people left behind because they did not have the money to pay for them or the time to sell them at a reasonable price. Thieves used to note down plates of these cars and steal them after 2-3 days!! There were yard sales everywhere, flights to India was packed! I still remember that vividly, I was a young grad student back then.
Capitalism is a harsh master. During the 2008 bust, many of my friends were actually called when they were driving home from work that they need not show up the next day. A few got the messages in their voicemails. One of my friends was away in south america for a project, he was called there and told that he was laid off - the company did not bother to book him a ticket back home, he did not know if he could re-enter the US without a job (and hence without a valid H1B), heck the company did not even reimburse his hotel and travel!!
How many Indians set off bombs then?
Having said that you are 1/4 right because I think that when people are under stress, they regress to familiar feelings and surroundings with which they are comfortable. That is usually what you are fed with when you are a child. Think of that as the inner Pakistaniyat. A Paki might grow up, get educated, get a job, become respectable -- but at the first hint of stress or opportunity, the inner Pakistaniyat surfaces. Why only 1/4? Because that alone is not the explanation. These people with growing inner Pakistaniyat are systematically identified & trained by "Rouge ISI & Army" (who are in fact, the "Pure ISI & Army"), aided and abetted in their terror efforts.
I fear how the 5-15 year olds of today in Pakistan will be like 15-20 years from now, especially given the rapid advances in mass communication for them to be bitten by the Jihadi bug, only to surface later.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Q. How long can you keep a Musharraf away from Pakistan? A. Not long.
Here is Mush interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN (it is short and worth watching) http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... af/?hpt=T2 Where he confirms that he will be back. Going by his confidence, I cannot but help think that he has support from some quarters, either inside Pakistan or outside Pakistan.
Here is Mush interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN (it is short and worth watching) http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... af/?hpt=T2 Where he confirms that he will be back. Going by his confidence, I cannot but help think that he has support from some quarters, either inside Pakistan or outside Pakistan.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Gilani refutes his Defence Minister's statement regarding extension to Kayani
Another drama in the making.
Another drama in the making.
Now, let us remember that Ahmed Mukhtar is part of the Zardari camp.Gilani said his government would look into the matter of extension in the service of Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Kayani, as and when the time comes, another TV channel reported.
On the recent statement of Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar about the army chief’s service extension, the PM said the statement was inopportune and uncalled for and Mukhtar should not have given it in the first place.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Need to counter this propoganda weapon from pakis
Fear and Loathing: Or Why Pakistan Banned The 21st Century
Fear and Loathing: Or Why Pakistan Banned The 21st Century
Pakistan has a small but surprisingly liberal and progressive middle class. Politically connected and motivated, they are a solid pillar in the fight for the development of human rights, rule of law, freedom of speech and economic responsibility.
Does this sound like a group of people who would casually accept a ban on Facebook and YouTube (and over 400 other sites) on the basis of "sacrilegious content" and "blasphemous materials"? Not likely. And they're not.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Watch Out for the General
Najam Sethi's Editorial in TFT
Najam Sethi's Editorial in TFT
The clash between the irresistible judiciary led by CJP Iftikhar Chaudhry and the immovable PPP government led by President Asif Zardari is nearing critical mass. When the big bang happens in the next few weeks, the omnipotent army chief, General Pervez Kayani, will have to step into the fray. The problem is that his intervention is likely to plunge the country into a bigger political crisis than the one it seeks to resolve.
The judges are seemingly bent on “getting Zardari”, come hell or high water.Consider. (1) There are two petitions in the Lahore High Court challenging President Zardari’s right to be President of Pakistan and the Co-Chair of the Peoples Party. By law, since the President is supposed to enjoy constitutional immunity, the court should not have entertained these petitions in the first place. But, it not merely accepted them for hearing in unprecedented haste but also dispatched an immediate notice to Mr Zardari to present his case, notwithstanding the constitutional provision of 60 days notice in such matters. More significantly, the constitution nowhere says the President cannot hold any party political office. Nor does Pakistani boast any tradition of apolitical or neutral Presidents, as in India. Indeed, every Pakistani President to date has been a forceful and interventionist personality. President Iskandar Mirza literally invited General Ayub Khan to seize power in 1958; Presidents General Ayub Khan, General Zia ul Haq and General Pervez Musharraf were coup-makers; President Ghulam Ishaq Khan, a bureaucrat hand-picked by General Zia, sacked two democratically elected governments and prime ministers in the early 1990s; President Farooq Leghari was a deputy leader of the PPP but ended up sacking the PPP government in 1996; and President Rafiq Tarar was appointed by Nawaz Sharif in 1998, went on to serve under General Musharraf, signed Mr Sharif’s pardon in 2000 as ordered by General Musharraf (before being sacked), and today sits in the assembly of Muslim Leaguers close to his political benefactor.
(2) The judges insist the PPP government must write to the Swiss authorities and reopen the money-laundering cases against President Zardari. But three Attorney-Generals, the Chairman and the Prosecutor-General of the National Accountability Bureau, and two federal law secretaries have come and gone without scratching the back of the judges or the government. The constitution grants immunity to the President against any criminal charges. The Law Minister, Babar Awan, has said that the letter to the Swiss authorities as demanded by the SC will only be written “over his dead body”! He has been ordered to appear before the SC on May 25, when fireworks are expected to fly. Meanwhile, the PPP has closed ranks around President Zardari. The SC may hold the law minister in contempt and imprison him. But President Zardari is constitutionally empowered to pardon any sentence or conviction, and he has already shown his resolve to take this route in the future by “pardoning” a senior official of the Intelligence Bureau as well as the federal interior minister after they were arbitrarily sentenced for misdemeanours. The prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, is next in the judges’ firing line.
Sooner or later, the buck will stop at General Kayani. When the SC’s orders are defied by the government on the grounds that they are arbitrary, unfair, one sided and smack of victimization rather than justice, the court is bound to call upon the army chief to come to its aid. The last time this happened was in 1998 when the SC headed by Justice Sajjad Ali Shah ordered the army chief, General Jehangir Karamat, to provide protection to the court against mischief-making hooligans of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League. But the army chief stepped aside and deferred the request to the defense ministry, compelling Justice Shah and then President Leghari to quit their posts. This time the CJP will have to ask General Kayani to put a gun (no less) to the head of President Zardari and drag him to the court and then to jail. So we may expect the government to try and pre-empt this by a measure of last resort. It had issued an executive notification last year restoring CJP Chaudhry and his colleagues to the SC. If that particular notification is “withdrawn’ by an equally swift prime ministerial executive order at any time – and there are precedents for withdrawal of notifications – the judges will have to take to the streets again with the powerful opposition and media behind their back amidst ironical demands that “the army should intervene to save democracy and rule of law”!
Consequently, General Kayani is fated to play a key role in Pakistani politics. This is all the more interesting since the issue of granting him a two year extension in service as army chief is hanging fire (he retires in November this year). The defense minister says the army chief has neither asked for an extension, nor does the government intend to give him one. But the defense ministry is simultaneously considering an internal proposal to extend the tenure of the post of the three service chiefs from three to five years. Watch out for the General in the eye of the storm!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
So unkil is getting pissed -ff with Zardari-Gilani co., and wants to thrust upon TSP the old-hat Mushy.Anujan wrote:Q. How long can you keep a Musharraf away from Pakistan? A. Not long.
Here is Mush interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN (it is short and worth watching) http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... af/?hpt=T2 Where he confirms that he will be back. Going by his confidence, I cannot but help think that he has support from some quarters, either inside Pakistan or outside Pakistan.
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SSridhar wrote:Watch Out for the General
Najam Sethi's Editorial in TFT

So basically no one in TSP cares for the constitution...
The Army is beyond the constitution.
The president has immunity from everything by the same constitution
And now the judicial is stepping out of constitutional boundaries by allowing Zardari's prosecution
Then what is the purpose of Paki constitution?
Combine this with Anujan's (accurate) assessment of inner-pakiness.
This renter-state needs serious reconstruction -
- Nuking the entire military and military-industrial infra (including those gun markets)
- Elimination of all the Islamist-ideologists and their institutions
- DE-education of Islamic conquests
- Re-education of Indic roots.
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Looks like Kiyanahi is not willing to do unkil's bid in GWOT. So bring back Musharraf.Kati wrote:So unkil is getting pissed -ff with Zardari-Gilani co., and wants to thrust upon TSP the old-hat Mushy.Anujan wrote:Q. How long can you keep a Musharraf away from Pakistan? A. Not long.
I am more worried about the consequences of Musharraf in the hot seat for India. Remember the MMS-Musharraf secret deals? Hope the nationalists in GOI are watching this closely.
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Twitter Joins Facebook, YouTube In Ban By Pakistan (Headline News)
Two days after blocking popular social networking site Facebook and a day after doing the same to YouTube, the government restricted access to another networking site, Twitter, on Friday.
“Sacrilegious contents” is the only reason being given by the authorities for its actions. So far, over 450 URLs have been blocked in Pakistan.
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They need something to wipe their a$$.Afterall, water is stolen either by kufr hindoostaan or by piggistan army.RamaY wrote:SSridhar wrote:Watch Out for the General
Najam Sethi's Editorial in TFT
Then what is the purpose of Paki constitution?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Pakistan PM visits lake on verge of overflowing (BBC)
Experts say that the depth of the 18km (11.18 miles) long lake is increasing by 1.03m (3.4ft) daily, reaching a maximum depth of 110.03m. They say that the lake only has to rise by another 3.65m before it begins to overflow.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Khwaja's family to register murder case against Hamid Mir (Hindustan Times)
The family of slain former ISI official Khalid Khwaja, who was kidnapped and killed by militants in Pakistan's tribal belt, has said it will get a murder case registered against popular television anchor Hamid Mir.
Osama further said: "The mistake my father committed was that he had told Mir that he was heading to Waziristan on a peace mission. Mir disclosed this to his friends there. "The whole family is in shock as to how Mir could do this to my father," he said.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Presumably he has a goat wife as well? Maybe a child wife too? Or a non lady waif wife? Hence the need to refer to the specific spouse in question with an appropriate adjective?SSridhar wrote:especially his lady wife.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
the river hunza was blocked in january. they probably tried a chankian trick and did nothing to utilize the water for agriculture.
now its swelled to a major problem.
now its swelled to a major problem.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Oye you faqing lurkers from Pakistan - if you guys still have an internet connection check this out
http://www.nib.com.my./archives/text/vi ... Aresultset
NEW STRAITS TIMES
A tale of two `Faisals’ who made headlines
Mahendra Ved
NST - May 17, 2010
THIS is the story of two Faisals, one from India’s Jammu and Kashmir
and the other from Pakistan.
How they spell their names differ, and also how they have built their
lives and the values they have come to represent.
Their names appeared side-by-side in the Indian media last week.
Similar treatment was lacking in the international media that focuses
on the way Muslims live in India and Pakistan and more critically, in
Kashmir, the bone of contention between the two South Asian
neighbours.
But let us talk more about the two Faisals.
Shah Faesal, a medical doctor from Kupwara district in the troubled
Kashmir Valley topped the Indian Civil Services Examination last
year, becoming the first person from Jammu and Kashmir to achieve
that distinction. He cracked the difficult, multi-phase examination
at the first attempt.
He is not alone -- there are three others from Kashmir who have made
it to the coveted list of would-be Indian civil servants.
Born in 1983, when Kashmir was a peaceful place, Shah had a violent
setback when his father, Ghulam Rasul Shah, a school teacher, was
killed by "unidentified gunmen" in 2002.
The shattered family moved from the village home to Srinagar where
not only Shab, but his brother and sister too, managed to study with
distinction under the care of their mother.
Shah Faesal, 27, said he owed his success to his well-knit middle
class family and to divine blessings.
He is specially beholden to his mother, Mubeena, 47, who was the
pillar of strength during critical times
"I am humbled. I had faith in my hard work, Allah’s grace and the
blessings of my family," he said.
Shah could have picked up the gun. In the prevailing atmosphere of
unemployed, disoriented youths, it is not improbable. But he stayed
focused on studies and close to his family.
Now, let’s look at the other Faisal.
Faisal Shahzad, 30, is the Pakistan-born American citizen accused of
trying to detonate a car bomb in Times Square in New York.
Son of retired air vice-marshal Bahar-ul-Haq of the Pakistan Air
Force, he had a sheltered life, studying in Karachi, Islamabad,
Rawalpindi and later in the United States, where he earned a
management degree.
He married an American girl of Pakistani descent, also educated. It
was a marriage arranged by their respective parents who live in
Pakistan.
They have two children and everything seemed fine till the global
recession took away his job. Friends of Shahzad say he became more
religious and sombre in the last year or so.
While people across America and the world suffered the recession,
Shahazad sought refuge in militancy. It was a considered decision
that was not taken on the spur of the moment. He sought his father’s
permission to join al-Qaeda and fight in Afghanistan against the
Western forces.
The father, according to reports, refused. But he did not inform
anyone in authority of his son’s plans.
Shahzad told investigators that he drew inspiration from Anwar
al-Awlaki, a Yemeni-American ulama whose militant online lectures
have been a catalyst for several recent attacks and plots.
Awlaki, 39, now hiding in Yemen, has emerged as perhaps the most
prominent English-speaking advocate of violent jihad against the US.
Investigators say he was trained by Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP).
Shahzad met its operatives in North Waziristan in north-west Pakistan
in December and January. Later, he received training in the use of
explosives from the same operatives.
America’s counterterrorism officials want to know how Shahzad, a
naturalised American citizen with an MBA who is married and has
children with a fellow American and who has worked in several
corporate jobs, came to embrace violence.
Shahzad has added to the long list of Pakistan-born youths living in
the West who have embraced violence. The British have traced 70 per
cent of such youths to Pakistan. The US has outlawed TTP and
threatened "dire consequences" to Islamabad.
But let us not digress and return to the Indian Faisal.
He is one of a total of 875 candidates -- 680 men and 195 women --
who have been recommended for appointment to the Indian Civil
Services whose officials govern India. Of them, the bespectacled Shah
has chosen the most coveted Indian Administrative Service (IAS).
Why the government job of an administrator when he is already a
qualified doctor?
Shah said as an administrator, he could serve many more people and
make a difference.
"I want to set an example by providing a corruption-free
administration to the people," a confident Shah said. He seems
serious. Committed to integrity, Shah was a Right To Information
(RTI) activist in his college days.
He wants to be a role model for the Kashmiri youth. He is already in
the good company of fellow Kashmiris on the elite list of wannabe
bureaucrats.
Rayees Ahmad Ganai, a resident of south Kashmir’s Anantnag district,
Showkat Ahmad Parray, from north Kashmir’s Baramulla district, and
Mir Umair Nabi, from Srinagar, are the other three selected this
year.
Parray said their achievement would disprove certain notions about
Kashmiris. "More Kashmiris will crack such exams in the coming
years," he declared.
"There is a general notion that Kashmiris cannot clear this highly
competitive exam. Through our hard work, we have proved this wrong,"
he said.
All four achievers come from districts that have witnessed militancy
for the past two decades. It is after 17 years that Kashmiri youth
have made it to the IAS list.
Alas, all this would be of little use to those for whom Kashmir is a
"dispute" and little else, in terms of propaganda and diplomatic and
political mileage.
To deny that there are problems in Jammu and Kashmir would be wrong.
The feat of Shah and the other three is symbolic of the aspirations
and achievements of the Kashmiri youth in India amid adverse
conditions.
It should be an eye-opener to those who want to live off the Kashmir
dispute - wherever they are.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
This is drama to bolster the civilian facade of TSP. Gilani is pretending to consider and then later extend Kiyani. So they can tell US, who in turn will tell India, that the civilians are in charge. Recall the Thimpu talks and what Gilani told MMS he needs from India to bolster his image?SSridhar wrote:Gilani refutes his Defence Minister's statement regarding extension to Kayani
Another drama in the making.Now, let us remember that Ahmed Mukhtar is part of the Zardari camp.Gilani said his government would look into the matter of extension in the service of Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Kayani, as and when the time comes, another TV channel reported.
On the recent statement of Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar about the army chief’s service extension, the PM said the statement was inopportune and uncalled for and Mukhtar should not have given it in the first place.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Ahh!!great news!!
A napalm goes off under Kiyani and his chalis chors.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2010 ... rorismties


A napalm goes off under Kiyani and his chalis chors.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2010 ... rorismties
Philip Shenon – 1 hr 53 mins ago
NEW YORK – In the wake of the Times Square bomb case, the feds just issued a chilling warning to Pakistani leaders: check your family and staff for terrorist ties. Philip Shenon reports.
The United States has warned civilian and military leaders in Pakistan that they need to worry about a newly uncovered breeding ground for anti-American terrorists—their own families.
A senior federal law enforcement official tells The Daily Beast that the Obama administration has sent a “clear, if carefully worded warning” to Pakistani leaders in recent days that their own children and others relatives, as well as their subordinates in the government, should be scrutinized for possible terrorist ties.
“We’ve got elements of the Pakistani gentry—people who can get in and out of the United States with ease, if they’re not already citizens here—who are getting roped into terrorism,” says an American diplomatic official.
The official, who has been briefed on details of the Times Square bombing case, says Pakistanis have also been told that the United States is concerned by the large number of connections between Pakistani military officers and some of the recently uncovered terrorist plots aimed at the United States and its European allies.
The warning comes in the wake of the discovery that the son of a retired Pakistani air marshal was the culprit in the attempted terrorist bombing in Times Square last month, as well as the guilty plea in March by a Pakistani-American man in Chicago who has connections throughout the Pakistan government—including a half-brother who is the prime minister’s chief spokesman.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Lets not forget that in Paki P brain they represent Islam and any failure of them is the failure of Islam . Now how can Allah's deen be a failure, the fault haaaas to lie somewhere else.Their fixation is complete and not amount of human logic can remove this fallacy, dunda is the only solution . Let Paki select the receiving point , on the head or in the Musharraf to block outletting of Pakistaniat in any form.Mahendra wrote:My theory and 3 cents is fairly simpleSri wrote:^^^
Sridhar Sir, In case of Shahzad, I think a more complex psychology is in play. Son of a senor military officer, completes his education in US, get a good job in US. Gets married t an american... really living the American dream, then something happens and his house is foreclosed and he is forced to move in a much tougher neighborhood. U can gauge the mental pressure he must have been. Heck I know of some Indians in similar situation. These guys are willing to do anything but return to Motherland beacause the extraordinary pressure the society puts on these high achievers. In case of Shahzad there is a deadly mix of honor and all that since he is a Pathan and from a very impoverished area. Add to that his super achiever Dad who in social hierarchy will surely be no less then a feudal lord. I think Shahzad would have gone through a very depressing / sulking period while living in his new home... He would have been suicidal. SNAP. and guy thinks if he is going to die anyways, atleast he would salvage his honor, gets his wife and kid to safety and goes on a mission which if pulled off, will have a slightly better chance of survivability then a Kamakazi pilot.... My theory and 2 cents....
Every Pacqui is a walking time bum waiting to go off regardless of his/her education/family background. A pacqui takes to soosai mission like fish to water. There is no need to analyse why the Pacqui did it, instead one must analyse why it took him so long because Drona-Charya has been humping his land since 2001
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
More Elements of the paki gentry (euphemism for Kiyani's kins) coming out of the woodwork
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/ ... ated_story
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/ ... ated_story
A Pakistani man arrested in Massachusetts during the investigation into the failed Times Square bombing had the primary suspect's phone number and first name in his cell phone and written on an envelope, a government attorney said Thursday.
Aftab Khan, a gas station attendant, had the items in his belongings in his Watertown, Mass., apartment, said Richard Neville, deputy chief counsel for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Boston.
Neville revealed the information in court Thursday as he tried to persuade a U.S. immigration judge to keep Khan in the United States.
Khan was one of three Pakistani men arrested on immigration violations last week as federal agents followed the money trail in their investigation into Faisal Shahzad, who is accused of trying - and failing - to set off a car bomb in Times Square on May 1.
Khan's cell phone had in its memory Shahzad's phone number and first name, Neville said. The envelope also had Shahzad's first name and phone number on it, he said.
more....
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Amit, You should have seen the extreme publicity for the Aishwaryia Rai's portrayal of Umrao Jaan in TSP. Even though the movie was a huge flop, the posters were a big hit all over TSP. We had commented on the matter in this very thread.
Bachan family did the right thing...
Prem, I was reading "Hyderbad" by Narender Luther, IAS which is ahistory of the city. He says the same thing that there is a sudden about turn where a seemingly Western educated(London returned) and even more Westernised individual (dresses in Saville Row suits) starts wearing a beard and turns to native dress and spouts hatred towards kafirs. And nearest kafirs are Hindus for him.
Bachan family did the right thing...
Prem, I was reading "Hyderbad" by Narender Luther, IAS which is ahistory of the city. He says the same thing that there is a sudden about turn where a seemingly Western educated(London returned) and even more Westernised individual (dresses in Saville Row suits) starts wearing a beard and turns to native dress and spouts hatred towards kafirs. And nearest kafirs are Hindus for him.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Coupled with the ban on internet sites the latest being twitter, there is some dramatic action due in next few days.SSridhar wrote:Watch Out for the General
Najam Sethi's Editorial in TFT.. nearing critical mass. ... General Pervez Kayani, will have to step into the fray ... the judges are seemingly bent on “getting Zardari” ... reopen the money-laundering cases against President Zardari. ... Sooner or later, the buck will stop at General Kayani.
Not to forget the nature is also lined up with the lake drowning Karakoram highway "going critical" on 25th. Will there be a flood of events?
Well.. Nothing much to say but wait and watch
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
That is exactly Jinnah who was pork eater.ramana wrote:
Prem, I was reading "Hyderbad" by Narender Luther, IAS which is ahistory of the city. He says the same thing that there is a sudden about turn where a seemingly Western educated(London returned) and even more Westernised individual (dresses in Saville Row suits) starts wearing a beard and turns to native dress and spouts hatred towards kafirs. And nearest kafirs are Hindus for him.
Only thing he did not change his clothes and appearance but despised the very same people he was with.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
US Embassy caterer in Islamabad finds his inner Pakistaniyat and is arrested. Quite a few gems in there:
Embassy Caterer Arrested in Times Sq. Bombing
The owner of an elite catering company that organized events for American diplomats here has been detained by the Pakistani authorities on suspicion that he helped the Pakistani-American being held for the failed Times Square bombing, a Western official said Friday.
The arrests in Islamabad appeared to focus on Pakistani men who were part of an informal network that helped recruit Pakistanis living abroad who wanted to come back to train for terrorist attacks.
Salman Ashraf Khan graduated from the University of Houston in 2000 in computer science, and then returned to Pakistan to work in the family catering business. {400% sure US radicalized him}
He described his son as “religious” but “definitely not an extremist.” Asked if his son had negative feelings towards the United States, he said: “To be honest, yes. But that is common.”![]()
A dinner for 20 people, booked by a senior American diplomat for Saturday night, was suddenly canceled by the United States embassy today. {I wonder why}
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
What are you referring to?ramana wrote:Amit, You should have seen the extreme publicity for the Aishwaryia Rai's portrayal of Umrao Jaan in TSP. Even though the movie was a huge flop, the posters were a big hit all over TSP. We had commented on the matter in this very thread.
Bachan family did the right thing...
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
The Friday Effect
AoA!
Five minor blasts in Lahore
AoA!
Five minor blasts in Lahore
What!!Difa-e-Nazria-e-Pakistan has claimed responsibility of the blasts by sending an SMS to media reporters 5 minutes before the blasts.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
It ain't a proper fridin until someone in Pakistan claims their 72.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
That's what is called process improvement. In IT world you can file for CMMI-5 acredition.anupmisra wrote:The Friday Effect
AoA!
Five minor blasts in Lahore
What!!Difa-e-Nazria-e-Pakistan has claimed responsibility of the blasts by sending an SMS to media reporters 5 minutes before the blasts.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
How come it is a different view e Pakistan if they believe in the same IED-ology of IED mubaraks hain?Difa-e-Nazria-e-PakistaN has claimed responsibility of the blasts
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Suspected Taliban blow up "U.S. spies" in Pakistan
Pious Vs Most pious Vs Polluted ( Arrival of Peace is heard loud and Clear)
Pious Vs Most pious Vs Polluted ( Arrival of Peace is heard loud and Clear)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... 02x4391718Taliban militants strapped explosives to two men accused of being U.S. spies and blew them up at a public execution in northwest Pakistan, intelligence officials and residents said on Friday. The killings took place on Thursday evening in North Waziristan, a lawless al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuary on the Afghan border where the United States has stepped up attacks with missile-firing drone aircraft, fuelling militant fears of spies.Five masked militants paraded the hand-cuffed men before dozens of people in the Datta Kheil area and accused them of passing information to the United States on targets for its CIA-operated pilotless drone aircraft."They strapped explosives around their bodies and then blew them up," a Pakistani intelligence official in the region told Reuters by telephone. Militants have killed hundreds of people they suspect are spies for the United States or the Pakistani government over the past few years.They usually decapitate or shoot the suspects. Residents said this was the first time the militants had blown up suspected spies.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Tip of that ice BURG called Pakistan.Anujan wrote:US Embassy caterer in Islamabad finds his inner Pakistaniyat and is arrested. Quite a few gems in there:
Embassy Caterer Arrested in Times Sq. Bombing
The owner of an elite catering company that organized events for American diplomats here has been detained by the Pakistani authorities on suspicion that he helped the Pakistani-American being held for the failed Times Square bombing, a Western official said Friday.
The arrests in Islamabad appeared to focus on Pakistani men who were part of an informal network that helped recruit Pakistanis living abroad who wanted to come back to train for terrorist attacks.
Salman Ashraf Khan graduated from the University of Houston in 2000 in computer science, and then returned to Pakistan to work in the family catering business. {400% sure US radicalized him}
He described his son as “religious” but “definitely not an extremist.” Asked if his son had negative feelings towards the United States, he said: “To be honest, yes. But that is common.”![]()
A dinner for 20 people, booked by a senior American diplomat for Saturday night, was suddenly canceled by the United States embassy today. {I wonder why}
As I always have said. Pakistan will shoot itself in the foot often enough to make the US commit suicide.
Soon the question will be who do we trust in Pakistan. The butler and milkman were the traditional suspects, but these yahoos are all over.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Alright, fess up! Which one of you BRFites started the "sacrilegious" comments section on Twitter? What next, PDF?Rahul Shukla wrote:“Sacrilegious contents” is the only reason being given by the authorities for its actions. So far, over 450 URLs have been blocked in Pakistan.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Kinda like Mushy calling up GWB half hour before the WTC attacks to sympathesize and offer full support. The D'OH moment.Muppalla wrote:That's what is called process improvement. In IT world you can file for CMMI-5 acredition.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Not so great news to me. The message explictly excludes tiels between TSPA and terrorists targeted towards us SDREs. Oh did I forget, how dare do I compare SDREs with citizens of United States and its European allies; they are God's chosen people. How can I act so uppity.pran wrote:Ahh!!great news!!![]()
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A napalm goes off under Kiyani and his chalis chors.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/2010 ... rorismties
Philip Shenon – 1 hr 53 mins ago
The official, who has been briefed on details of the Times Square bombing case, says Pakistanis have also been told that the United States is concerned by the large number of connections between Pakistani military officers and some of the recently uncovered terrorist plots aimed at the United States and its European allies.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Cousin describes how Britons were killed in Pakistan
A relative has described how a British couple and their daughter were shot dead in Pakistan following a dispute over the breakdown of a marriage.
Mohammed and Pervaze Yousaf, who had lived in Lancashire for over 30 years, and their daughter Tania, were visiting Gujerat, in the north east of the country, for their son's wedding.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
This is the website of the Jihadi caterer http://rajputcatering.com/management.php and the Paki himself at the bottom (isnt "Rajput" Haraam?). Wapo reports that 2 more people were arrested. One working for Telenor and one working for a computer company. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03787.html
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2
Anujan
"Rajput" is not haram. In fact, Pakjabi Rajputs proudly identify themselves as Rajputs and like other "casteless"
TSPians, they are particular about their Rajput heritage when they seek matrimonial alliances etc. I know of TSP people who are particular about "Chandravanshi" vs. "Suryavanshi" and such intricacies.
Surnames and titles like "Raja", "Rana", "Sultan" etc. are common identifiers for Pakjabi Rajputs and so are "haraam" sounding last names like Bhatti, Chauhan, Chibb, Rathore etc. Of course, Bhutto is a Rajput name as well, but Sindhi.
"Rajput" is not haram. In fact, Pakjabi Rajputs proudly identify themselves as Rajputs and like other "casteless"

Surnames and titles like "Raja", "Rana", "Sultan" etc. are common identifiers for Pakjabi Rajputs and so are "haraam" sounding last names like Bhatti, Chauhan, Chibb, Rathore etc. Of course, Bhutto is a Rajput name as well, but Sindhi.