Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 30, 2011

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Jun 2011 09:26

So Poaks, were you able to identify the "terrorist gene/s" passed on by your multiple unknown fathers?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Jun 2011 10:11

Unfortunately, the one known medicine for this serious condition is available only as a suppository.

It's also made only in India.

Cannot match India’s military might: Pak Def Minister

"If we only try to match them (India) militarily and buy the sort of armament which they have, we will probably not be able to afford it," Mukhtar said.

Explaining his contention, he noted that India's economy is "six to seven times bigger than" Pakistan's and its trade volumes were "five to six times greater".

"The capacity of India and Pakistan to fight was for 20 to 22 days. Now India has inducted a lot of armaments, may be they can last for 45 days, we will not be able to do so," Mukhtar said in an interview to BBC Urdu.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 29 Jun 2011 10:17

Crossfire, hand-grenade attacks continue in South Zone

KARACHI: Various areas of South Zone remained disturbed because of the worst law and order situation caused by intense crossfire, attacks of hand-grenades and rocket that left one man dead and wounded over dozen others during the last 24 hours.

disha · Post by **disha** » 29 Jun 2011 10:35

ramana wrote:Its bad English. What they are claiming is, with PRC help, they have mapped the genome of one of their citizens. And this is a first for a Muslim country!

Its not genome of first Muslim for that would be Ali.

Sirjee, that much I know. Just was attempting to bring out the inner pakistan of some turds. Anyway, one thing that points to rank pakistaniyat in the news clip were this nuggets:

1. India is clubbed with other countries that has already done gene mapping and now bakis did it (albeit with some chineese help)., good equal-equal.
2. The gene mapping showed all the TFTA genes from turks, arabs, persians intact in their gene pool (massive assurance of their TFTA'ness)

So it was more of a self assurance article - that inspite of all the happenings in bakistan, they are still TFTA and equal to SDREs.

disha · Post by **disha** » 29 Jun 2011 10:37

shravan wrote:Crossfire, hand-grenade attacks continue in South Zone

KARACHI: Various areas of South Zone remained disturbed because of the worst law and order situation caused by intense crossfire, attacks of hand-grenades and rocket that left one man dead and wounded over dozen others during the last 24 hours.

Shirf Ek?

It is worst law and order situation (with hand grenades and rocket attacks) and in various parts - and only one dead? Looks like they are all TFTA mards ala bollywood heroes.

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 29 Jun 2011 11:58

Apologies if already posted. Posting in full.

Pakistanis aware of Omar`s whereabouts:- Yawn

WASHINGTON: The Pakistanis know that Mullah Omar is in Pakistan and are ignoring US requests to find him, two senior US military commanders told Congress on Tuesday.

The two commanders, who will now oversee all US military operations in the Pak-Afghan region, also said that Pakistan was protecting the Haqqani network of militants and had not acted when asked to destroy Taliban weapon factories in Fata.

“We believe he is,” said Admiral William McRaven when Republican Senator Lindsey Graham asked him if Mullah Omar was hiding inside Pakistan.

Lt-Gen John Allen said Pakistan lacked the desire and the capability to act against the militants.

Their responses enabled senior members of the Senate Armed Services Committee to demand retaliatory actions against Pakistan if it continued to protect the militants.

“Do we believe Mullah Omar is there with the knowledge of the ISI and the upper echelons of the army?” asked Senator Graham.

“Sir, I believe the Pakistanis know he is in Pakistan,” said Admiral McRaven, President Barack Obama`s nominee to head the US Special Operations Command. Admiral McRaven also was in charge of the May 2 raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

“If they tried for about a week, do you think they could find him?” asked the senator. “I don`t know whether they could or not, because I don`t know exactly where Mullah Omar is,” Admiral McRaven replied.

“Have we asked them to find him?” Senator Graham asked. “I believe we have,” Admiral McRaven replied.

Senator Carl Levin, who heads the Armed Services Committee, “and I are both asking Pakistan to help us find Mullah Omar,” said Senator Graham.

The senator then asked Lt-Gen Allen, the future head of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, if the Americans were `certain` that explosive devices used against their soldiers were coming from Pakistan.

“Yes, we are,” said the general.

“Have we given that information to the Pakistanis?” the senator asked. “That`s correct, sir,” said the general.

“And have they responded effectively?” the senator asked. “They have not,” the general said.

“Well, I`m with Chairman Levin on this. This has got to stop,” said Senator Graham while concluding his questions.

But this did not end what looked like Pakistan`s indictment in the US Congress, which began soon after Senator Levin introduced the two nominees to the panel.

“The safe haven in Pakistan continues to provide the Haqqani network the freedom to launch attacks against US and coalition troops in Afghanistan,” remarked Senator Levin.

“Now you both have talked to Pakistani military leaders. Why do they refuse to take on the Haqqani network? And in your judgment is that going to change?” he asked.

“It`s a function probably of capacity. But it might also be a function of their hedging, whether they have determined that the United States is going to remain in Afghanistan, whether our strategy will be successful or not,” Gen Allen said.

“At some point, as we have emphasised to the Pakistanis, we`ve got to bring pressure to bear on this insurgent safe haven. And in the end what we would hope is that they would listen to our desires for them to do that.”

“Is Pakistan`s attitude likely to change in the near term?” Senator Levin asked Admiral McRaven.

“I don`t think it is likely to change,” Admiral McRaven said. “It is both a capacity issue for the Pakistanis and I think potentially a willingness issue, recognising that the situation in Fata is difficult for them to deal with,” the admiral said.

“Well, something`s got to give, something`s got to change, `cause it just can`t continue this way`,” Senator Levin remarked.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Jun 2011 20:35

AOA!!!

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PNS Mehran attackers had inside help : Navy officials

ISLAMABAD : The National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Defense has been briefed by the Navy on the PNS Mehran attack probe, Geo News reported.

According to the sources, Navy officials said that four terrorists were involved in the attack and evidence had also been found which indicated that the terrorists were receiving help from inside the base.

The in-camera briefing lasted for two hours. The committee was told that the internal probe of the attack was completed but the investigation into the external factors was still being conducted.

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 29 Jun 2011 20:51

The topic of pak-specific sites in the paki genome is interesting. Some Russians have been doing an experiment for the last 40 years. The wiki page is here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

Perhaps the opposite is going on in TSP. Perhaps a relatively large sample can be taken from the TSP land to measure the levels of corticosteroids.

As an aside, this experiment has found that under strong selective pressure, the foxes have also shown physiological/morphological changes as well. Will TSP-wasis get more TFTA or will they have to make a choice between TFTA-ness and aggression ? Is the strong selection pressure for TFTA mard leading to less aggressive behavior ?

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 29 Jun 2011 20:57

Received this link by email from a lurker with a request to post on BRF http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feat ... den-201107 I have not checked if this has been posted earlier.

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 29 Jun 2011 21:40

Can anyone please shed some light on Air Blue crash in 2010 near Islamabad? The Pak defense minister says "we know the cause of the crash, but it cannot be made public". There is some talk of the plane being shot down by a sam, or uncle sam or both !!

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 29 Jun 2011 21:42

rahul,

Thanks. A fabulous article.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 29 Jun 2011 21:49

Rajiv Lather wrote:Can anyone please shed some light on Air Blue crash in 2010 near Islamabad? The Pak defense minister says "we know the cause of the crash, but it cannot be made public". There is some talk of the plane being shot down by a sam, or uncle sam or both !!

^^ Or, the paki "investigators" couldn't make head or tail out of the crash site and debris and are now trying to save their echandee. Can't blame them, they are used to hosing down crime scenes,nothing more.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 29 Jun 2011 21:52

Rajiv Lather wrote:Can anyone please shed some light on Air Blue crash in 2010 near Islamabad? The Pak defense minister says "we know the cause of the crash, but it cannot be made public". There is some talk of the plane being shot down by a sam, or uncle sam or both !!

Rajiv,

Interesting!

GORDON DUFF: AMERICANS BELIEVED INVOLVED IN PAKISTAN AIR CRASH, HIJACKING

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/08/29 ... hijacking/

Sources indicate that the plane crash was an unsuccessful hijacking attempt intended to crash into the nuclear weapons facility at Kahuta, outside Islamabad. Such an attack may have been blamed on India and would likely have led to retaliation which could easily have escalated to a nuclear exchange between these two nations that have spent decades at each other’s throats.

Suspicions were raised inside Pakistan’s military and intelligence organizations when American military contractors employed by Blackwater/Xe showed up on the scene immediately after the crash, seizing the black box and “other materials.” There is no confirmation that parachutes or electronic equipment had been removed when Blackwater/Xe security relinquished control of the crash scene to Pakistani investigators.

Porki hijs

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 29 Jun 2011 22:22

I think everyone should watch this tv discussion

http://www.cpak.tv/2010/12/13/sawal-yeh ... lue-crash/

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Jun 2011 23:00

Pakistan’s China card

http://blog.gmfus.org/2011/06/pakistan% ... hina-card/

Indeed, China has privately assured Pakistan that it would protect it from any international sanctions push that might ensue. Beijing is also pressing ahead with initiatives on the ground, despite countless slowdowns and security challenges. Chinese companies likely will assume responsibility for Gwadar following the resolution of a legal case against its current Singaporean operator. Work continues on the expansion of the Karakoraum Highway connecting the two countries. And major power projects, including the controversial Chashma nuclear power plants and an assortment of hydro-electric dams, are expected to proceed. Military cooperation, too, will remain at the core of the relationship. China’s desire for Pakistan to maintain a strategic balance with India means that aside from conventional arms supplies and the joint development of frigates and jet fighters, Beijing is willing to provide continued support to the most sensitive elements of Pakistan’s weapons programs, such as ballistic missile technology. China hopes this support will engender a stable, economically capable Pakistan that can act as both security balancer and trade corridor, though no one in Beijing is holding their breath.But although the scope of Sino-Pakistani ties is undeniable, there is also a mutual appreciation of their limits. Beijing has made it clear that it sees more risk than opportunity in the worsening U.S.-Pakistani relationship. And despite the rhetoric, expectations in Islamabad of the level of Chinese support are realistically modest. While China is willing to fund tangible projects in Pakistan, it has been consistently reluctant to provide direct financial assistance on a serious scale. Beijing is already frustrated with the current level of assistance it feels it needs to provide; Chinese “investments” in Pakistan are effectively bilateral aid, financed through state companies and banks with no expectation of an economic return.The widespread impression that bin Laden was living under protection from elements within the Pakistani state has also played into growing Chinese concerns over extremist sympathies among Pakistan’s security services. And this has all come at a time of marked pessimism in Beijing over Islamabad’s future trajectory and the implications of the security situation in the country for its ambitious economic projects. The outstanding obstacle to closer Sino-Pakistani ties is not Washington but Pakistan’s own internal problems. As one Pakistani security analyst said, “China’s message to us at the moment is: ‘We’ll support you, but get your own house in order and don’t do anything stupid.’”

The assault on bin Laden’s compound did yield one clear dividend for China — the chance for a good look at a downed U.S. stealth helicopter. Otherwise, Beijing’s reaction has been more one of apprehension than glee. China does not want its ties with Pakistan to become a source of tension in its relationship with the United States. It is concerned that any withdrawal of U.S. financial support would either weaken Pakistan or leave China with the task of bailing it out. Even if China did offer Pakistan a guaranteed annual budget line of billions of dollars to break off security ties with the United States, decision-makers in Rawalpindi would quickly decline the offer. Aside from other strategic considerations, the military has no desire to become dependent on equipment from Beijing, which is not seen as a technological match for what it gets from the United States. And the broader Pakistani elite, which has minimal cultural and educational ties with China, does not want to be stuck in Beijing’s camp either. There are plenty of reasons for the decline in U.S.-Pakistani relations. The specter of China’s checkbook is not one of them.

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 29 Jun 2011 23:07

Here is today's news report of the refusal of Pak DM to make the report public:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/198704/reas ... -minister/

Here is some internet report of eye witnesses claiming two missile trails:

http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/11/ai ... y-tell-us/

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 30 Jun 2011 01:36

“Our nation is a mix of a lot of feces,” said Prof. Dr M Iqbal Choudhary, who heads the project. “Pakistanis are like a “festering pot” ie a mix of Mughals, Turks, Pashtuns, Afghans, Arabs, excreta

Is this guy for real

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 30 Jun 2011 01:42

Rajiv Lather wrote:The Pak defense minister says "we know the cause of the crash, but it cannot be made public".

Dawn reported that there was a third voice in the cockpit. And in a Paki Forum (HistoryofPia), a guy who lost his father was told that the Captain was warned about the no fly zone but he replied that 'I Know'.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 30 Jun 2011 01:43

nachiket wrote:^^ Or, the paki "investigators" couldn't make head or tail out of the crash site and debris and are now trying to save their echandee.

The removed the debris after 6 months. Army said it was busy with flood work & Nato demanded 1,00,000/- dollars.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 30 Jun 2011 01:46

http://www.dailywaqt.com/300710/Images/p7-10.jpg

Here the commandos who reached at the site first are shouting AoA. This raised many CT in Paki papers.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Jun 2011 01:56

Mahendra wrote:
“Our nation is a mix of a lot of feces,” said Prof. Dr M Iqbal Choudhary, who heads the project. “Pakistanis are like a “festering pot” ie a mix of Mughals, Turks, Pashtuns, Afghans, Arabs, excreta
Is this guy for real

Poaklandic puzzle is straight like Yindoo jalebi or Yahoodi Pretzle.
I Upanishad style , question can be asked , woh kaun hai ?

"Tell me dear, who is born of hajar Beejs yet has no Beej at all?
Tell me Sire, who has many fathers yet no father at all?
Who is the one born human yet grow up as Animal ?
Who is the most entertaining buffoon, yet migrane for whole world?
The most intelligent among stupids and best dressed beggar ?

( well, know Poak and yee know et all)

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 30 Jun 2011 02:03

Police unable to deal with ‘influential’ party shooters

KARACHI - The persons involved in the shootout in Defence Housing Authority (DHA) on Sunday night that resulted in the death of six people, including Nawab Akbar Bugti’s grandson Taalay Bugti, allegedly belong to influential business families and are using their links to pressurise the police for saving the suspects from arrest. Reliable sources in the police told Pakistan Today that the two accused were close relatives of Karachi-based businessmen and had also been involved in different criminal activities in the area. The absconders are stated to be the prime suspects in the shootout at the party and the police are conducting raids to arrest them. On the pressure exerted by a government personality, the police have not included their names in the FIR whereas officials have also been bribed for excluding their names from the list.

“Both the [suspects] have close links with Arif Rajar as they came together in the party,” said eyewitnesses, adding that both the groups used sub-machine guns (SMGs), Kalashnikovs and .222 rifles. After the incident, police had arrested 11 men but released them after interrogation. A security guard of a bungalow near the crime scene told Pakistan Today that the particular house, where the shootout took place, was booked for ‘dance parties’ every weekend. “I have frequently seen high-profile government officials, police officers, actors and actresses from the film and television industry entering the house on weekends.”

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Jun 2011 02:12

Rajiv Lather wrote:Here is today's news report of the refusal of Pak DM to make the report public:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/198704/reas ... -minister/

Here is some internet report of eye witnesses claiming two missile trails:

http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/11/ai ... y-tell-us/

Rajiv, maybe theTSPA shot the plane down?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 30 Jun 2011 02:21

Govt fails to benefit from Turkish power plant
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2011/06 ... wer-plant/

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 30 Jun 2011 02:30

Read some of the Indian & Paki comments from this article

http://www.economist.com/node/18836800/ ... t-comments

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 30 Jun 2011 03:35

Will this post bring on the thread houris?
Just wondering

PS: No, still on Page 71.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 30 Jun 2011 03:41

tracking some news around Manas Transit Center in Kyrgyzstan......

First, a two week old

on why "Khan needs to depend on one douchbag or the other", a conveniently timed colorless revolution overthrowing a baksheesh-hiker and ultimately throwing up the customary <wink wink> anti-khan leadership via "democrazy". Very legit gubmint etc....

While Kyrgyzstan's post-Bakiev baki disguised as Kyrgyz? crop of government officials have varied in their public statements concerning the role the United States should play in their country (with opinions generally ranging from vague to outright hostile), the view on the ground is almost uniformly suspicious of U.S. intentions. And who can blame the Kyrgyz for thinking this way?

Had U.S. policymakers seen Kyrgyzstan as an end in and of itself and not merely a means toward some other policy objective -- and as a country of over 5 million people and not just a ruling clique -- then we would not be in the quandary we are today. Thankfully, with the war in Afghanistan gradually winding down, Manas will play a less significant role in U.S.-Kyrgyz relations and the memory of U.S. complicity during the Bakiev era will hopefully dampen.

And then we see this today in Beeb:

Kyrgyz women burn branches of Himalayan pencil juniper for luck during an inauguration ceremony for a large aircraft ramp at the US transit centre in Manas near the Kyrgyz capital, Bishkek. The ramp will provide a 52% increase in maximum parking capacity at the airport, US officials say.

Injun confused..... So in is khan coming or going in Manas?
And if they are successful in ousting the fake Baki, Bakiev and replacing it with an EnMo gubmint, with some 50% increase in capacity, why do they need to keep giving billions to asli bakis and get backsided?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 30 Jun 2011 04:17

CNN reports:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- The Afghan government on Wednesday blamed an al Qaeda-linked militant group based in Pakistan for the siege on a Kabul hotel that left 12 victims and all nine attackers dead.

The attackers, all of whom were prepared to carry out suicide bombings, were with the Haqqani network, a group of terrorists loyal to the warlord Siraq Haqqani, a spokesman for the Afghanistan Interior Ministry said.

A Kabul-based official with direct access to security information also told CNN it is believed the attack was orchestrated by the Haqqani network.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 30 Jun 2011 06:22

hnair wrote:
Kyrgyz women burn branches of Himalayan pencil juniper for luck during an inauguration ceremony for a large aircraft ramp at the US transit centre in Manas near the Kyrgyz capital, Bishkek. The ramp will provide a 52% increase in maximum parking capacity at the airport, US officials say.

In SDREland such burning is called "Aaarti"

52% increase means parking for 3 aircraft rather than 2.

ManuT · Post by **ManuT** » 30 Jun 2011 07:30

GuruPrabhu wrote:
AnimeshP wrote:For the benefit of pak lurks ... video of SDRE Army evacuating 93000 TFTA soldiers from the wrath of the bengalis
The train scene starting at ~2:30 brings back memories. I recall going to the railway station as these POW trains rolled by. A lot of people had gathered to get a dekho at the barbarians. There was no hostility - just staring down the captives with stern eyes silently asking, "what kind of animals are you?" I recall one time a person spitting at the POWs - folks asked him to calm down. I still don't understand how/why they got away without due punishment.

I think, Jagan ji had posted a series of these in the mil hist forum sometime earlier, where they belong.

From an enemy that was split into two broken and defeated to the now deranged animal that carried out terror attacks in Nov 2008, shows the perils of sitting on laurels of prior generations.

You ask a very valid question "how did they got away". I blame, an unclear/undefined agenda, an unwillingness to shape things, a lot of sitting on laurels and a lot of self goals since then.

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 30 Jun 2011 07:34

Injun confused..... So in is khan coming or going in Manas?
And if they are successful in ousting the fake Baki, Bakiev and replacing it with an EnMo gubmint, with some 50% increase in capacity, why do they need to keep giving billions to asli bakis and get backsided?

These are post withdrawal plans. Right now Unkil is securing about 70% supplies (IIRC) through Bakiland, simulataneously increasing capability via the northern route.

Once troops are down to about 40% and Northern route is upgraded to that level, Baki is toast.

All this angst on BRF about why Unkil listens to Baki fails to see this angle. Bakis are only as good as the road from Karachi to Kabul/Kandahar.

That condom is getting quite full and ready to be discarded.

GuruPrabhu · Post by **GuruPrabhu** » 30 Jun 2011 07:45

^^^ to provide perspective. It costs Uncle about $1M per soldier per year in Afghan. If it gives Bakis $2B, it is worth 2,000 soldiers. So, the net difference is having 132k soldiers or 130k soldiers.

However, if the supplies had to come from the north, the cost goes up by about a factor of 4 (IIRC), which translates into an extra $8B or so per year.

$2B vs $8B for transport -- the choice is easy.

Folks who think Bakis are outsmarting Uncle should counter this argument. Basically, the whore is being purchased for the proverbial "chavanni" instead of real wages.

The *real* issue is that India is collateral damage due to Bakis weaponizing. This may or may not be an unintended consequence. The narrative on BRF tends to favor the angle that this is deliberate and "killing of two birds".

I can't comment on this last aspect because I don't have enough data.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 30 Jun 2011 08:38

shiv wrote: In SDREland such burning is called "Aaarti"

52% increase means parking for 3 aircraft rather than 2.

From the looks of it on google maps, 5 of those big ones can be parked on the ramp. So a 50% increase = 7 planes now.

wig · Post by **wig** » 30 Jun 2011 08:40

good talibs threaten to attack 9 key Pak installations

"The revenge game has already been started from Pakistan. The attack on Mehran Naval Base in Karachi was the first in the line of 10 that Taliban has planned to avenge the death of bin Laden," Wali-ur Rehman, head of Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP) in South Waziristan, told Al-Arabiya in an interview.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 044775.cms

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 30 Jun 2011 08:53

I was reading about the criminal tribes in wiki of which Hurs tribe in Sindh Pakistan was one of them. Pretty interesting recent history, they have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magsi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurs

Reading this made me understood, why BB wed a Baloch guy, Mr 10%. The hurs I bet support the army (their only possible emancipators) and Nawaz. The magsi, a baloch tribe, but present in Sinah is on the side of BB. These two tribes repress the other whenever in power.

The governor of Baloch is the head of magsi tribe & his brother a minister in Sindh.

http://archives.dawn.com/2008/09/23/nat12.htm
a 2008 article about activities of magsi force.

http://www.thebalochhal.com/2010/12/we- ... nor-magsi/
The magsi head threatening to unleash the force on the true freedom loving baloch.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 30 Jun 2011 09:59

rahulm wrote:Received this link by email from a lurker with a request to post on BRF http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feat ... den-201107 I have not checked if this has been posted earlier.

Dude needs to lurk better since that H&D tearing article was posted here almost a month ago, by moi.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 30 Jun 2011 10:26

Pakistan calls for U.S. to leave airbase used for drone attacks - CNN

Whore is asking its client to move out of his house (not the renteir relationship). When will US designate Papistan as TSP from major non-NATO ally.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 30 Jun 2011 11:02

Someone, either Somnath or Cosmo, had made a reference sometime back on these pages to South Korea having regarded Pakistan as an economic model in the sixties.

Here's a detailed article that demolishes this popular Pakistani urban myth. Apologies if this has already been posted earlier.

Learning from Korea

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Jun 2011 11:02

GuruPrabhu wrote:Once troops are down to about 40% and Northern route is upgraded to that level, Baki is toast.

I am sure that something else will develop that will keep the US interest in Pakistan well and alive.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 30 Jun 2011 11:12

A Lahori Motorham writes about being treated like uncovered meat...

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http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\06\29\story_29-6-2011_pg3_7

Public nuisance

Sir: Sometimes being a woman in Pakistan is like a curse — and I am not even talking about atrocities like honour killings and child marriages that are routinely reported in the media. No, I am talking about everyday occurrences that make you swear under your breath at the mentality of this nation’s citizens. Just the other day, I was busy minding my own business in a popular clothing market in Lahore when suddenly an old, bearded man carrying a loudspeaker stood right next to me and started hollering loudly and arrogantly that women who do not cover their heads and faces in public (like myself) will burn in the fires of hell. Needless to say I quickly went my way but he went on and on with this diatribe and followed many other women around with his loudspeaker in hand. Nobody bothered to stop him from this rather irritating form of public harassment. It truly is a sad day when people, especially women, are judged by their exteriors and not what is on the inside.
FATIMA KHAN
Lahorem