Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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One school of thought alleges that mushy might have been goatnapped by the TFTAs after being tired of his bluster.

Apparently Saudi FM is in town as well to broker a compromise between all factions.
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Amirkhan diplomat, bearing a pakistani husband, may now be stationed in India. Mentions it in her Bio

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Indian Mujahideen more lethal and resilient due to support from Pak: Report
The outlawed terror group Indian Mujahideen (IM) is more lethal and resilient because of the support it receives from Pakistan, according to a new report by an American thinktank.
And pakistan has this nuisance capacity because of the support from USA.
The decentralized IM network has a loose leadership currently based in Pakistan, but moving between there and the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, said the report authored by noted South Asia :roll: security expert Stephen Tankel
There are some other goat droppings by this Sooth Asia "expert" about IM but they are more suited to Internal Security Watch thread.
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Window of citizenship opens for 50 Pak Hindu families
In a major relief to 50-odd Pakistani Hindu families who have been living "illegally" in Ellenabad, a non-descriptive town of Sirsa district in Haryana for around 21 years, the district administration has accepted their applications for citizenship on behalf of the ministry of home affairs (MHA) by waiving the requirement of valid visa and passport.
As their passports and visas expired during their stay here for more than two decades, these migrants from Bahawalpur and Rahim Yar Khan in Punjab province of Pakistan were not unable to apply for Indian citizenship due to strict norms.
Meanwhile there is no count of how many BD entered illegally.
Jai Ram added that only 51 out of 64 migrant families would be entitled to Indian citizenship as only applicants whose mother or father were born prior to Partition and had had travelled to India prior to December 31, 2004, and refused return to Pakistan could apply. "Parents of 13 of us were born after 1947, but we are still hopeful that some solution would be found one day," he said.
Is there a provision to send some "aman ka tamasha/Google ad" types whose parents were born in pakhanland back to the shithole ??
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The Great Peril to India is not yet over.
PM Hopes of Visiting Pakistan in Coming Months - ToI
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Friday expressed hope of visiting Pakistan in next four months and said circumstances were "not appropriate" to visit that country so far.

Addressing a press conference, Singh was asked why he never visited Pakistan in last nearly ten years of his Prime Ministership.

"I would very much like to go to Pakistan. I was born in a village which is now part of West Punjab but as Prime Minister of the country I should go to visit Pakistan when conditions are appropriate to achieve solid results.

"I thought of it many times but ultimately I felt that circumstances are not appropriate for my visit. I still have not given up hope of going to Pakistan before I complete my tenure as Prime Minister," Singh said while addressing a press conference.

On another query about reports that India and Pakistan were on the verge of a historic deal on Jammu and Kashmir, the Prime Minister said,"I have tried to improve relations with all our neighbours to the best of my ability and on one time it appeared that important breakthrough was in sight.

"Events in Pakistan for example that General Pervez Musharraf (former President) had to make way for a different set up. I think that led to the process not moving further...."


However, he added that he still believes that good relations between India and Pakistan are very essential for the sub-continent to realise its full development potential to get rid of poverty, ignorance and disease which have caused inevitable loss to millions and millions of people.
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Rajdeep wrote:Indian Mujahideen more lethal and resilient due to support from Pak: Report
The outlawed terror group Indian Mujahideen (IM) is more lethal and resilient because of the support it receives from Pakistan, according to a new report by an American thinktank.
And pakistan has this nuisance capacity because of the support from USA.
The decentralized IM network has a loose leadership currently based in Pakistan, but moving between there and the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia, said the report authored by noted South Asia :roll: security expert Stephen Tankel
There are some other goat droppings by this Sooth Asia "expert" about IM but they are more suited to Internal Security Watch thread.
He is yet another 'self-proclaimed' sooth asia expert. He promised an explosive revelation about Gen(R) Kiyani in a 3 part series of article. The first 2 turned out as damp-squib as it can get, never bothered to read the 3rd (if it was published). An occasional reader of BR has better knowledge about pakistan than this guy, such a waste of time following him.
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In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, even the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday does nothing to damp down Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religious inspired sectarian violence .

Two Sunni Mohammaddens, one of whom was a religious scholar shot dead in Islamabad:

ASWJ's Islamabad general secretary shot dead in capital

Why is it that followers of Mohammaddenism, a religion that claims itself to be “The Religion of Peace” in Pakistan, keep killing each other on account of religion based sectarian differences on the day of the Friday Sabbath?
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SSridhar wrote:The Great Peril to India is not yet over.
PM Hopes of Visiting Pakistan in Coming Months - ToI
SSridhar Ji :

It is said : Those Whom the Gods Wish to Destroy They first Make Mad.

No truer words could have been written for MMS!

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^If BRF TIRoP threads could be sold as an archive for hefty sum it would be worth the money totally, especially expert opinions part. India has paki as neighbor post barbaric invasion and colonial times and this is rather apt knowledge base in general for all.
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"Sooth Asian" is now in the infamous dictionary. Please to review and refine definition and post some links about "South Asians" in the news to add as references.
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ArmenT wrote:"Sooth Asian" is now in the infamous dictionary. Please to review and refine definition and post some links about "South Asians" in the news to add as references.
The term so*th asian excites outrage because of four reasons.
a)Pakis pass off their sins on others.
b)They have a claim on others successes
c)It is used to blur the distinct identities of Indians and pakis and pass them off as one entity when it suits the pakis.
d)It is used by briturds and US geo-political interests for all above purposes and to deny the historical and geographical centrality of India in "Indian-subcontinent"
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Funny, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars is as much anti Indian as Paki, may be little more ..
Thinking of Mushy, Ganza BAdmash might use Mushy's heart trouble to burst Mushy's bubble for eternal silence. All it will take is one Sharp Sooi in Mush and the his lights go out.
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India extends deadline on polio vaccination certificate for Pakistani travelers
ISLAMABAD : India announced on Friday that it was extending till February 14, 2014, a deadline after which it would be mandatory for all travelers from Pakistan to carry polio vaccination certificates.
Despite efforts by the government, Pakistan reported 85 confirmed cases of polio during 2013, raising concerns about the fight against the disease.
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Jhujar wrote:
THE REPORT

Funny, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars is as much anti Indian as Paki, may be little more ..
Thinking of Mushy, Ganza BAdmash might use Mushy's heart trouble to burst Mushy's bubble for eternal silence. All it will take is one Sharp Sooi in Mush and the his lights go out.
Jhujar Ji :

The Woodrow Wilson Center has proportionately far more Pakistani Scholars and Experts as compared to their Indian counterparts bearing in mind that India is Seven times Larger than Pakistan.

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And the disease has now further evolved in the ancient land of Sindhu. Altaf threatens separate province for Urdu speaking Sindhis. It took 67 years.
In a no holds barred attack on his party’s former coalition partners, Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain on Friday evening said if their demands are unacceptable to the ruling Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) then Urdu speaking Sindhis should be given a separate province
He also threatened that the demand of a separate province can quickly turn into a demand of a separate country for Urdu speakers of Sindh
Despite having an equal representation in Sindh, Urdu speakers are subjected to discrimination
“I want to tell Bilawal that the demand for Sindh's division can be withdrawn if they sit on the table with us and make an agreement for 50-50 per cent power sharing in the government,” he said.
Sounds familiar? Not to be outdone, JII reiterated their pre-1947 stand:
Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) chief Syed Munawar Hassan declared the statement a conspiracy to divide the country besides fanning anarchy.
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You know you are in serious trouble when an established banana republic calls you one. Dateline Dhaka: Towards a banana republic?
Given the troubled preludes to national elections over the last two decades, can Bangladesh’s major political parties have a decent claim to democratic credentials?
So, from that point of view, despite our rich political heritage Bangladesh is going down the slippery slope of being a banana republic!
What was that about the pot and the kettle?
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Anup, you missed this other gem from Altaf Bhai, reaffirming the peaceful nature of the Pakistani followers of RoP:
“I am still ready for dialogue. But after me I don’t know if there will be anyone left for dialogue or the urban people will just unleash violence to achieve their objectives,” he said.
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^^^
The pot is wheat consuming, fair complexioned and large. The kettle is rice consuming, dark complexioned and small. :)
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Can't take Sharif at face value - G.Parthasarathy, Business Line
An army hotline to defuse Indo-Pak border tensions is all very well. But Nawaz Sharif’s anti-India record is worrying.

Nawaz Sharif’s return to power in Pakistan was marked by pious statements by him on peace and stability on the one hand and inflammatory rhetoric on the other, describing Kashmir as Pakistan’s “jugular vein”.

Whether it was at the UN in New York or at the White House, Sharif chose to return to his stale rhetoric of Kashmir being the “core issue” between India and Pakistan, implicitly asserting that there could be a nuclear holocaust unless Pakistan reached a satisfactory solution with India.

This rhetoric was accompanied by the unleashing of Hafiz Mohammed Saeed to spew venom not only over Kashmir but also over India allegedly diverting and depriving Pakistan of its vital water resources. The Pakistani army augmented this diplomatic effort by claiming it would use tactical nuclear weapons in the event of Indian retribution.

Sharif’s apologists in South Block claimed that he had really had a “change of heart” and that he cherished nothing more than peace and harmony with India.

Yet, Sharif’s return to power was marked by 195 ceasefire violations, with the Lashkar-e-taiba even choosing to attack an army officers’ mess in the Jammu sector, Indian jawans being beheaded elsewhere, and infiltrators crossing the LoC.

South Block did not do its credibility any good by misleading Defence Minister A. K. Antony to first claim these infiltrations had been made, and then retract it, absolving the Pakistan army of its sins.

It was against this background that it was agreed at the New York summit that the directors general of military operations (DGMOs) would meet and devise measures to de-escalate tensions across the LoC.

Wagah talks

The Pakistan army stalled the proposal saying the delegations should be headed by civilian officials.

But they ultimately had to yield when India insisted the talks be between the DGMOs as decided in New York. The talks held on the Wagah border yielded some positive results.

The most important part of the joint statement issued on December 24 was the agreement between the DGMOs to “maintain the sanctity (of) and ceasefire on the Line of Control”. They also agreed to make the existing hotline between them more effective.

Two flag meetings between the brigade commanders on the LoC were also agreed to for maintaining peace across the LoC.

This was followed by a meeting between the commanders of the Border Security Force and the Pakistan Rangers in which there was forward movement on issues pertaining to effective use of existing communications and illegal constructions close to the border.

The most important issue concerned people who cross the border inadvertently and who would, hopefully, not have to spend months in incarceration.

No real change

While some tend to link these developments to the exit of the hardnosed Gen. Ashfaque Parvez Kayani, there is nothing to suggest any change in the Pakistani army’s long-term policies of supporting radical groups such as the Afghan Taliban and the Lashkar-e-taiba to promote violence across Pakistan’s borders with India and Afghanistan.

It also now appears that there are differences between the army and the political establishment on using force against the Tehriq-e-taliban Pakistan (TTP) in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan. Nawaz Sharif, Imran Khan’s Tehriq-e -insaf, which rules Pakhtunkhwa province, and Islamist parties such as the Jamat-e-Islami are all opposed to the use of force against the TTP.

But interestingly, the army has commenced operations against the TTP in North Waziristan, home of the infamous Haqqani network, which operates from this area against Afghan and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

This development appears to suggest that after TTP leader Hakimullah Mehsud was killed in an American drone strike, the Sharif government has acquiesced in the military operations in North Waziristan, as Maulana Fazlullah, the TTP’s new leader, is known to be a fundamentalist hardliner. There also appears to be a deal between the military and its long-term assets, Jalaluddin and Sirajuddin Haqqani, that the operations against the TTP will not challenge the Haqqani hegemony in North Waziristan.

This complex arrangement involving deals within deals could well fall apart, in which case, border management across the Durand Line will become a nightmare.

Thus, while Pakistan may find it expedient to observe the “sanctity” of the Line of Control if things get out of hand on its north-western borders, it could also revert to its old ways if things cool down in the tribal areas.

India would be well advised to be prepared for both eventualities.


LoC commitment


The meeting of the DGMOs now sets the stage for India to insist that Nawaz Sharif reaffirms his government’s commitment to the “sanctity” of the Line of Control.

He personally pledged to respect the “sanctity” of the LoC when he rushed to the White House on July 4, 1999. During that visit Sharif begged the US President Bill Clinton to bail him out after Pakistan’s Kargil misadventure.

It was also setting the stage for a confrontation with his army chief General Pervez Musharraf, on who should take the blame for the national disgrace Pakistan faced.

How should India judge whether Sharif is going to respect the “sanctity” of the Line of Control?

During his second term, Sharif not only emboldened and gave respectability to Hafeez Mohammed Saeed, but also set up a ‘Pakistan Gurudwara Prabandak Committee’ headed by Gen. Nasir, to incite and subvert Sikh pilgrims from India. ‘Khalistan’ flags were fluttering in Sikh places of pilgrimage in Pakistan just after Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee’s bus yatra to Lahore.

In light of this, it is imperative that a close watch be kept on Sharif’s approach to Sikh pilgrimage groups and the efforts to incite and revive militancy in Punjab.

A policy of wait and watch, with dialogue, if any, confined to terrorism, infiltration, trade and economic relations and people to people contacts should suffice till a new government assumes office in India after the coming general election.

(The author is a former High Commissioner to Pakistan.)
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RCase wrote:Anup, you missed this other gem from Altaf Bhai, reaffirming the peaceful nature of the Pakistani followers of RoP:
“I am still ready for dialogue. But after me I don’t know if there will be anyone left for dialogue or the urban people will just unleash violence to achieve their objectives,” he said.
Whoa! Good eye. Djinnah reborn with a call for Direct Action Day and all. But this one continues to hide out in englishtan.
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headed by Gen. Nasir, to incite and subvert Sikh pilgrims from India. ‘Khalistan’ flags were fluttering in Sikh places of pilgrimage in Pakistan just after Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee’s bus yatra to Lahore.
Shahbaz Badmash (non-sharif) brother of the mullah PM of nPakistan was in real Punjab hobnobbing with Parkash Singh Badal during the kabaddi., he might be upto something!!! Badal is very astute and knows (due to 1980s) of these badmash's pangas!! I just wish if we could have arrested this badamash and release only after Saeed was given to us as a criminal for Bombay, Delhi and other places (all Lashkar attacks).
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What's up with these Pakis. They are trying to do state level diplomacy. As someone noted the other day, they have invited Mamta Banerjee to visit Pakistan. WB is not even a border state. Have to keep a close eye on these mofos.
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WB is not even a border state. Have to keep a close eye on these mofos.
they are already hobnobbing with Khaleda ZIA against Shaikh Hasina! and are hoping she is back to power!
our own "non-Dharmics" like Mamta are idiots not realizing the Islamists!
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X-posting from Pakistan Arms Sales, Ops thread:

Utah gun manufacturer refuses sale to Pakistan
WEST VALLEY CITY — A local gun manufacturer is gaining attention after announcing its decision to turn down a multimillion-dollar deal to legally supply Pakistan with precision rifles.

Desert Tech was approached with the opportunity to sell precision rifles to Pakistan in November. The company turned the deal down this week because of fears the guns could eventually be used against U.S. troops.

"The company was founded on the principle of keeping Americans and our allied forces safe," said sales manager Mike Davis. "We’re not saying that Pakistan would get the weapons and do anything bad with them, but there’s just a heavy set of unrest over there.
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Ever wonder Why our women won’t work? Yes, pray tell us:
Draconian mothers-in-law, disapproving parents and emasculated husbands
Pakistani workplaces are usually very masculine
no separate restroom for females
Definition of "emasculated": "Deprived of virility, strength, or vigor"

And, that's why pakis prefer goats.

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You know there's a back room deal on when you hear a paki say this: Secret deal with Musharraf is out of question: Khwaja Asif.
He said that the government of Pakistan is a plaintiff in the treason case against Musharraf, adding that investigation should also be carried out over billions of rupees in the former ruler’s bank accounts.
Just to put the events in proper perspective. Musharraf may be shifted abroad for treatment and Saudi FM to visit Pakistan on Jan 6. Recall, there is a tradition of "blood money" in the land of the pure. Now, there's a way out. Besides, Al-Badmash has a villa in Al-Saudi-"Arapia" that's sitting empty.
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I don't really know why India encourages talks on Siachen. What is there to talk ? It always makes me suspicious of the intentions of the incumbent Indian government especially in light of Sharm-el-Sheik disaster. That was the real disaster. That's why the Pakistanis are so welcoming of our PM, perhaps. I have always believed that in one-on-one talks, Indian PMs tend to fritter away advantages and give away positions. MMS must be at the top of the list and the Pakistani sharks have rightly sensed blood.
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We should encourage talks on Balochistan. After all it is peaceful Balochistan is good for Indian subcontinent and for better Indo-pak relations.
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SSridhar wrote:
I don't really know why India encourages talks on Siachen. What is there to talk ? It always makes me suspicious of the intentions of the incumbent Indian government especially in light of Sharm-el-Sheik disaster. That was the real disaster. That's why the Pakistanis are so welcoming of our PM, perhaps. I have always believed that in one-on-one talks, Indian PMs tend to fritter away advantages and give away positions. MMS must be at the top of the list and the Pakistani sharks have rightly sensed blood.
SSridhar Ji :

All one can say is that every single inhabitant of the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists is mortified at the prospect of BJP winning the Lok Sabha 2014 Elections and Modi becoming the Prime Minister of India.

As such they are pushing, begging etc. for MMS to visit the Land of the Pure and the Home of the Terrorists to get ONE LAST CONCESSION!

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BJP Questions Man Mohan Singh's Claim on Kashmir Issue - Economic Times
BJP today questioned Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on his claim that a resolution of the Kashmir issue was "almost arrived at" between India and Pakistan, and asked him to divulge details of the failed solution.

"What was this possible resolution on Kashmir ? The people of India are entitled to know an answer to this question," BJP leader Arun Jaitley said in an article.

The Leader of Opposition in Rajya Sabha hoped that India is not moving in the direction of Pakistan, which has an unfinished agenda on Kashmir, as its negotiating space on territory in the context of Kashmir resolution is negligible.

Referring to Pakistan's view of LOC's dilution, tripartite arrangement on Kashmir and its de-militarisation being part of this "breakthrough", he said, "I hope the Government was not working in this direction."

The BJP leader said the Prime Minister during his press conference revealed for the first time that secret envoys from India and Pakistan had almost arrived at a meeting to resolve the conflict on Kashmir, but when a break through appeared "in sight" the then Pakistan ruler General Pervez Musharraf had to make way for others and the agreement got blocked.

"Since the Prime Minister for the first time informed the nation that a resolution on Kashmir was almost agreed to, it is eminently desirable that he takes the nation into confidence of what the specifics he had in mind about the failed solution," he said.

He said that even for history to make assessment of Prime Minister's tenure, these details would be of immense help. :rotfl:
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There you have it. Pakistan is a terrorist state because of India, perfect logic:

Peace with India vital to combat terrorism: Pakistan


Pakistan believes that peace with India and Afghanistan is necessary for "effectively combating terrorism", Islamabad's ambassador to the US said in remarks published Saturday.

There can also be no economic development without a peaceful neighbourhood, the Dawn newspaper quoted Jalil Abbas Jillani as saying in Washington.

"The prime minister (Nawaz Sharif) reached out to the two most important neighbours, India and Afghanistan, and this (has) led to a reduction in hostilities," said Jillani.

He pointed out that recent bilateral meetings had "a very good impact" on India-Pakistan relations.

These included Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif's visit to New Delhi and the Pakistan prime minister's adviser on foreign affairs Sartaj Aziz's meeting with External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid.

Jillani presented his credentials to the US State Department Thursday.
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SSridhar wrote:BJP Questions Man Mohan Singh's Claim on Kashmir Issue - Economic Times
BJP today questioned Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on his claim that a resolution of the Kashmir issue was "almost arrived at" between India and Pakistan, and asked him to divulge details of the failed solution.

"What was this possible resolution on Kashmir ? The people of India are entitled to know an answer to this question," BJP leader Arun Jaitley said in an article. {Snipped} .......................
Mr. Arun Jaitley's article:
The Most Important Sentence in the Prime Minister's Press Conference 04 Jan, 2014

From the desk of Arun Jaitley

The Prime Minister’s interaction with the media on 3rd January,2014, gave rise to several controversies. His announcement that he was unavailable for leadership after the General Elections, his endorsement of Rahul Gandhi, his criticism of Narendra Modi, his admission of failure in tackling corruption and inflation were amongst the issues which caught popular attention. We on behalf of the BJP reacted on some of the issues.

The Kashmir comment in the Press Conference got missed out amidst these controversies. A media person asked the Prime Minister a question on his Pakistan initiatives. The Prime Minister revealed for the first time that secret envoys from India and Pakistan had almost arrived at a meeting to resolve the conflict on Kashmir. When a break through appeared ‘in sight ‘, General Pervez Musharraf had to make way for other leaders and the agreement got blocked. A few years ago when President Musharraf was living in exile in London he had given a similar indication .

What was this possible resolution on Kashmir ? The people of India are entitled to know an answer to this question.

The stated position of India has been very clear. Jammu & Kashmir is an integral part of India. In 1994 the Indian Parliament had passed a unanimous resolution asserting that POK was an integral part of India’s territory. India firmly believes that no third party intervention in Kashmir is permissible. Pakistan has an unfinished agenda on Kashmir. It has not reconciled to Kashmir being integral to India’s sovereignty. It has used warfare and terrorism to achieve this end. India firmly believes that the age and era of re-drawing boundaries is over. India’s negotiating space on territory in the context of Kashmir resolution is negligible.

I have always believed that the Nehruvian vision of giving a separate status to Jammu & Kashmir was a flawed one. The journey of the past 67 years has been from separate status towards separatism. The Congress stands for separate status, the National Conference advocates pre-1953 status, the PDP talks of self-rule, the separatists talk of ‘Azadi’. Each one of these is intended to dilute India’s sovereignty. Their intention is to weaken the constitutional and political link between Jammu & Kashmir and the rest of the country. It is in this context that one needs to know the details of what this ‘almost arrived at’ agreed resolution between Dr. Manmohan Singh’s government and Pakistan was. Pakistan had been advocating an interim resolution on Kashmir which comprised of several unacceptable measures. These included maintenance of territorial status quo, demilitarization in Kashmir, dilution of the Line of Control for allowing free movement of people and goods, a tripartite joint mechanism to take decisions about Jammu & Kashmir for a specified period pending which a final solution would be found. Some Pakistani observers and Kashmiri groups also spoke about the currency of the two countries to be a valid tender in Jammu & Kashmir. I do not know if any or all of these were a subject matter of the ‘almost arrived at’ resolution to the Kashmir problem. I hope the truth is otherwise. I further hope that I do not have to wait for the memoirs of the Prime Minister to know the truth.

Track Two diplomacy is not an unknown phenomenon. It is an accepted instrument world over. But Track Two diplomacy cannot be at complete variance with the stated national position. At best it can be marginally ahead of the national thinking. If the above stated points that the Pakistanis have been frequently mentioning i.e a dilution of the LOC and a tripartite arrangement were part of this ‘breakthrough’ , it would be a defacto acceptance of Jammu & Kashmir being a disputed territory. It is with great difficulty that Indian diplomacy has achieved a non-internationalization of the Kashmir issue and an internationalization of cross-border terrorism. By even suggesting such a resolution, we could squander all gains. De-militarisation of the valley without dismantling the terror infrastructure by Pakistan would be disastrous. I hope the Government was not working in this direction.

Since the Prime Minister for the first time informed the nation that a resolution on Kashmir was almost agreed to, it is eminently desirable that he takes the nation into confidence of what the specifics he had in mind about the failed solution. Even for history to make assessment of Prime Minister’s tenure, these details would be of immense help.

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Peregrine wrote:
SSridhar wrote:[All one can say is that every single inhabitant of the Land of the Pure and Home of the Terrorists is mortified at the prospect of BJP winning the Lok Sabha 2014 Elections and Modi becoming the Prime Minister of India.As such they are pushing, begging etc. for MMS to visit the Land of the Pure and the Home of the Terrorists to get ONE LAST CONCESSION!
One should read , watch all the excuses they cling on in vain hope that Modi wont be PM. They go from Jannat to Dozakh extent fearing even a remote possibilty of BJP?NDA in power. Secret is, Paki tasted the furyof dharmics in 47 and ever since it have done permanent psychological GUBO to these inbreds. the subsequent wars have even widen and stretched their TFTA Mush. Paki live in Congress Ki Godhi. Mainoamma is also their Amma and Manmohan alos their Pakmohan.
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Pakis are setting new standards for asylum seeking

Gay Brisbane man faces deportation to Pakistan and possible jail as relationship not recognised
He has been in a relationship with Brisbane neuroscientist Dr Matthew Hynd for the past four years.

Mr Choudhry and Dr Hynd were one of the first gay couples in Queensland to register their civil union on March 12, 2012.

It was a significant day that they celebrated with family and friends.
day isn't far when a friendly paki momeen near you will start wooing you for immigration. The warning is not just for NRI but all Indian citizens as well :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Pakistan : the apartheid hub - Kunwar Khuldune Shahid
Here the non-Muslims are ‘fortunate’ enough to solely suffer from discrimination, bigotry and the occasional church bombing; it is the ‘heretic’ Islamic sects that suffer from the most barefaced butchery

Following Nelson Mandela’s death last month, many a Pakistani politician — past and present — has been dubbed ‘our Mandela’. While all juxtapositions were respectively incongruous on their own unique scale of absurdity, what takes the cake is the inability to perceive the irony that anyone in Pakistan can have anything to do with anti-apartheid revolution. Pakistan : it has mustered the worst kinds of discrimination from all over the globe and assembled them on its own chopping board. Pakistan : it is associated with genocides that cover as wide a gamut as possible. Pakistan : it is the undisputed hub of apartheid.
Historically, Pakistan owes its existence to a sense of ‘apart-hood’. The Muslims of the Indian subcontinent refused to live under ‘Hindu Raj’ and propagated the Two Nation Theory despite the fact that the Hindus and Muslims had significantly more in common than their differences. Having ruled over the Hindus for centuries, it was inconceivable for the Muslims to exist under them. And, of course, it does not get more ‘segregated’ than existing as two separate countries.
Within 10 days of Mandela’s death, when tributes echoed for the former South African president from within Pakistan, our National Assembly was busy formulating the resolution against Qadir Molla’s hanging and, simultaneously, a British doctor ,Masood Ahmad, who happened to adhere to the Ahmedi sect, was being arrested for the ‘horrendous crime’ of reading aloud from the Quran.

The butcher of Mirpur was being hailed as innocent and a man became a criminal for reading the Quran; all this while Mandela’s anti-apartheid movement was being extolled. It is going to take a battalion of Mandelas to drag Pakistan out of its multi-pronged apartheids.
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Brad Goodman wrote:Pakis are setting new standards for asylum seeking

Gay Brisbane man faces deportation to Pakistan and possible jail as relationship not recognised
He has been in a relationship with Brisbane neuroscientist Dr Matthew Hynd for the past four years.

Mr Choudhry and Dr Hynd were one of the first gay couples in Queensland to register their civil union on March 12, 2012.

It was a significant day that they celebrated with family and friends.
day isn't far when a friendly paki momeen near you will start wooing you for immigration. The warning is not just for NRI but all Indian citizens as well :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Something is not right here. If the Paki guy says that he grew up in the US (and claims that he knows few people in Pakistan and does not even know how to read the local language), why the heck are the Aussie authorities deporting him to Pakistan and not back to the US? I have a feeling that he's not an American citizen and was probably deported out of the US earlier (bet he's lying about mostly growing up in the US, though the bit about him speaking, but not knowing how to read/write in Urdu might be true, if he attended a Pakistani "school").
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Prosecutor in Musharraf treason case says family receiving threats
Advocate Akram Shiekh....said on Saturday that his family was receiving threats from secret agencies.
he was not scared of anybody except almighty Allah.
Doesn't he know that in pakiland, secret agencies are equal to allah.
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Khuldune is very young, only 26. I wonder how long he will last in Pakiland.
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