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Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 15:52
by Austin
IndraD wrote:It seems rebels and army in ME have expertise in digging tunnels. Both Saddam and Gaddafi were discovered in tunnels :

maze of tunnels being discovered in Mosul http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -city.html
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It is not clear how extensive the network of ISIS tunnels is, but there are fears it might allow ISIS fighters and even their leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, to wriggle free from the noose which is being slowly closed around Iraq's second city.
It is not clear whether Baghdadi, who is the head of the so-called 'caliphate' in northern Iraq and Syria, will risk death or capture in the fight for Mosul, which is home to more than 1.5 million people, most of them Sunni Muslims.
Kurdish defence minister Karim Sinjari said: 'According to unconfirmed reports Abu Bakr was in Mosul three days ago. People saw him visiting fighters and encouraging them. We are not sure he was present, but this is the information.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4NzOlgleY
Gadaffi was never discovered in tunnel , He was moving with a convoy of truck/vehicals etc when it was attacked by fighters and rebels

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 16:23
by IndraD
Yes you are right after his convoy was destroyed by NATO AF Gaddafi was hiding not in tunnels but drainage pipes.
Wiki
'Mutassim then took 20 fighters and went to look for undamaged cars, having persuaded his father to come too. "The group belly-crawled to a sand berm," a UN report, released in March 2012 said, and then through two drainage pipes and set up a defensive position.'

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 17:15
by UlanBatori
I agree with everything you say about the destroyers having an extremely tough job, but I see no way that that video could have been taken. The a/cc would not allow a destroyer at close range in such conditions: collision risk is too high. And the camera is just a bit too steady for the scene to be real: the a/c would also have been pitching and plunging quite a bit. Ever wonder how those scenes in "Titanic" were filmed? Sent What'sTheirFaces into the North Sea and pitched them overboard among icebergs? or "Victory At Sea"? Bogus video. Which is a good thing because otherwise the Russian Fleet will be laid up for repairs for a couple of months, plus they will need new crews. Plus the carrier would have poured most of the fuel for its aircraft overboard for the destroyer to follow in its oiled wake. At least keep down the spray.
Plus whatever Admiral sent the fleet into such weather instead of paying a Friendship Visit to a nice port, will be improving the roads to Murmansk.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 17:19
by UlanBatori
This stuff about Abou-bugger bagdaddy is hilarious. Probably lolling on a beach in Lebanon or Karachi.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 19:26
by TSJones
in a storm like that, everybody on ship is called to general quarters.

the hatches are batten down and everybody stays at their duty station or if its not your shift, hunkered down at your bunk.

there's no moving around unless absolutely necessary.

to go outside to the deck is almost a death sentence. but sometimes required in emergency. :eek:

point is, they survive, weather doesn't shut a destroyer down. submarines still lurk below.

vigilance is a destroyer's mission. even unto death.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 19:47
by Singha
A stabilized zoom camera on the kuzzy probably took footage from a mile off or even better a kamov heli

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:03
by habal
Serial numbers of weapons confiscated from ISIS dead rats traced to confiscated U.S. inventories supply from Iraq from early 2002 and on !!!

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:04
by habal
Finally Lebanon is on the right track to get a President. Should Aoun be confirmed as President, it will be very positive news for Syria and the resistance.

"The leader of Lebanese group Hezbollah on Sunday announced support for electing General Michel Aoun as president.
Hassan Nasrallah said Hezbollah members of parliament will vote for Aoun as Lebanon's president, according to the official Lebanese news agency.
The announcement came three days after former prime minister and leader of the Future Bloc Saad al-Hariri said he would vote for Aoun as president.
Lebanon has been without a president for more than two years now.
Lebanon's political forces remain sharply divided between supporters of the "March 14 Alliance", which backs the armed opposition in next-door Syria, and the "March 8 Alliance", which includes Hezbollah and supports Syria's Government.
A third, centrist bloc, meanwhile, is led by Druze politician Walid Jumblatt and former Prime Minister Najib Mikati."

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:09
by habal
Putin is shifting his northern fleet to Syria including the Flagship Kuznetsov carrier, no Commander in Chief commits his flagship to a battle scene unless he intends to use it , hope the demons take note of that.

The proxies US/Isreal/Soros are out of ideas, the US managerial team Brookings had a big pow wow at the white house 2 weeks ago, Rothschild surely must be in search of new talent, unable to curtail the Bear, they can attack the Bear but loose Europe and America, that's the conundrum , is setting up a Rothschild central Bank in Syria and Iran worth loosing Europe and America.?

"destroying Europe is a walk in the park for the Russian military" - Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:26
by Singha
I thought al hariri clan were dual citizen saudi munnas. Him supporting hezbollah is strange

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:26
by habal
The Church Bells Ring Out Again In Mosul

Moving footage, and nice bells, as Christian militiamen raise a makeshift cross on a church defiled by the takfiri sex jihadists sent by the White House Bum Boy...
https://twitter.com/MustafaNajafi/statu ... 04/video/1

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:29
by habal
SYRIA'S FLAG FLIES FROM ADMIRAL KUZNETSOV'S MASTHEAD
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Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:35
by habal
GUARDIANS FRONT PAGE IS ORWELL'S 1984
By Jonathan Cook – Reading the “liberal” press has become a truly Orwellian experience. What was true yesterday is a lie today. What was black today will be white tomorrow. Two reports the front page of the Guardian this week could easily be savage satire straight from the pages of the novel 1984.
Report one: The Guardian provides supportive coverage of the beginning of a full-throttle assault by Iraqi forces, backed the US and UK, on Mosul to win it back from the jihadists of ISIS – an assault that will inevitably lead to massive casualties and humanitarian suffering among the civilian population.
Report two: The Guardian provides supportive coverage of the US and UK for considering increased sanctions against Syria and Russia. On what grounds? Because Syrian forces, backed by Russia, have been waging a full-throttle assault on Aleppo to win it back from the jihadists of ISIS and Al-Qaeda – an assault that has led to massive casualties and humanitarian suffering among the civilian population.
Remember, as was prophesied: “War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength.”

http://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdo ... ells-1984/

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:45
by habal
Important note: #SAA et al are now able to dominate supply route to 1070 appartmentsJoene added,

Syrian Army & Hezbollah capture al-Bazo hill after capturing the anti-air base yesterday, south-west Aleppo
Aleppo : confirmed , SAA & Allies full control Bazo Hill south aleppo

Well done! #SyrianArmy gains control of strategic height in south #Aleppo - militia http://sptnkne.ws/c5KW

- SAA advancing in Shiekh Saeed + AlAmyriah
https://t.co/sseACvGVnc

The dead bodies of the terrorists who were killed by #SAA while attempting to attack and recapture the air defense battalion in #Aleppo
https://twitter.com/maytham956/status/7 ... 7183302656

SAA Face-to-face confrontations w/ #AlQaeda while liberating air defense battalion in S #Aleppo.
https://twitter.com/RussiaConnects/stat ... 6964966400

Aleppo : SAA Captives the number of militants and kill other during the heavy clashes in Souq AL-Jabas " Aqrap " Area

Afghan opium production up 43 percent in 1 year as eradication effort fails – UN
http://on.rt.com/7sqr

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 20:46
by habal
750K Tons and 10 multiple re entry warheads per missile... Range is planet earth.
Developer shows first image of Russia's new Sarmat ballistic missile

http://tass.com/defense/908267

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 21:00
by habal
for those willing to follow the battle for Mosul, another source is musingsoniraq, usually quite accurate with the daily facts of the recent conflict, for a US based blogger.

http://musingsoniraq.blogspot.com.br/20 ... s+On+Iraq)

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 21:43
by UlanBatori
no Commander in Chief commits his flagship to a battle scene unless he intends to use it , hope the demons take note of that.
er.... pls check out the term "Cinco de Mayo" in the context of aircraft carriers. :eek:

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 21:47
by Singha
Being liquid fuel like ss18 and all such xxl heavies i wonder what would its role though....maybe intimidation in a escalation ladder usecase by fueling it up and opening the silo doors...

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 21:55
by habal
Why one must never talk to puppets.

By Cooperating With Washington On Syria Russia Walked Into A Trap

Paul Craig Roberts

A month ago I wrote a column , “He Who Hesitates Is Lost—And Russia Hesitated.” http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/09 ... g-roberts/ The consequences of this hesitation are now apparent:

1. A UN report orchestrated by Washington has accused Syria and Russia of war crimes in Aleppo. According to the report, “indiscriminate airstrikes across the eastern part of the city by Government forces and their allies [Russia] are responsible for the overwhelming majority of civilian casualties. These violations constitute war crimes. And if knowingly committed as part of a widespread or systematic attack directed against civilians, they constitute crimes against humanity.” http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Page ... 3&LangID=E

The UN Human Rights Council has now voted to start an “independent” investigation. The purpose of the investigation is to indict Russia and Putin as war criminals and to “bring to justice those responsible for the alleged abuses.” Moreover, “the situation should be urgently referred to the International Criminal Court. Every party to this conflict must know that they will be held accountable for the international crimes they commit – all, without selective protection or discrimination.” Keep in mind that Washington provides the largest share of the UN’s budget, and the UN will overlook that it was Washington that sent ISIS to Aleppo.

Obviously, neither Washington nor the UN will be able to drag Putin into the International Criminal Court, but a war criminal charge can serve Washington’s purpose by stopping Putin from traveling abroad and curtailing his diplomatic efforts. The purpose of this orchestrated exercise is its propaganda value. Among Washington’s many concerns is that some Eastern European countries, alarmed by the conflict that Washington is leading them into with Russia, will threaten NATO with a non-participation statement. If Russia is branded a war criminal, it becomes even more difficult for countries that foolishly and thoughtlessly joined NATO to extricate themselves from the consequences.

2. Washington has succeeded in bringing to power in Poland the far right-wing Law and Justice Party. These agents of Washington have re-opened the matter of the death of Pooland’s President Kaczynski in a plane crash, making wild claims that the crash was a terror attack by Russia aimed at depriving Poland of its political leadership. https://www.rt.com/news/363726-polish-p ... racy-tusk/

Despite massive and convincing evidence to the contrary, the Law and Justice Party’s claims will find traction thanks to the scary portrait of Russia painted by Washington’s demonization campaign. The intended result is to further blacken and isolate Russia and its government.

3. As the anointed spokesperson for the neoconservative warmongers, Hillary wants Washington to enforce a no-fly zone in Syria. A no-fly zone would require Washington to attemp to prevent Syrian and Russian air strikes against ISIS positions. It seems clear enough that Syria and Russia would not accept any attempt to deny Syria the use of the country’s own airspace in the conflict against forces sent by Washington to overthrow the Syrian government, as happened to Gaddafi in Libya. Unless Russia and Syria surrender, Hillary’s no-fly zone would result in military conflict between Russia and the US.

To advance the no-fly zone proposal, the “use of chemical weapons” ruse has been resurrected. Fabricated reports are appearing that the Syrian airforce is guilty of dropping chemical weapons on the Syrian population. On October 22, the Indian Express reported that on October 21 the UN-Led Joint Investigative Mechanism informed the UN Security Council that the chemical attack on Qmenas “was caused by a Syrian Arab Armed Forces helicopter dropping a device from a high altitude which hit the ground and released the toxic substance that affected the population.” The report concluded that three of the chemical attacks investigated were made by Syria and one by the Islamic State. http://indianexpress.com/article/world/ ... 5-3096558/

The fact that the Russians resolved the chemical weapons issue in 2014, a year before the alleged attack on Qmenas, by taking possession of the weapons and removing them from Syria means that the report has little credibility. http://www.wsj.com/articles/removal-of- ... 1403529356 However, at no time during Washington’s 15-year-old attack on Muslim countries have facts played any role, and certainly facts have played no role in Washington’s demonization of Russia.

4. Diana Johnstone has concluded that Hillary intends regime change for Russia and will use the presidency for that purpose.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-cl ... le/5552264

It is impossible to imagine a purpose more reckless and irresponsible. Many members of the Russian government have stated that Washington’s provocation and demonization of Russia have brought trust between the nuclear powers close to zero and that Russia will never again fight a war on her own territory. Sergey Karaganov told the German news magazine, Der Spiegal, that if Washington and NATO move from provocations to encroachments against Russia, a nuclear power, they will be punished. http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 02629.html

Many foolish people believe that nuclear war cannot happen, because there can be no winner. However, the American war planners, who elevated US nuclear weapons from a retaliatory role to a pre-emptive first strike function, obviously do not agree that nuclear war cannot be won. If nuclear war is believed to be unwinable, there is no point in a war doctrine that assigns the weapons the role of surprise attack.

The Russians are aware and disturbed that Washington has made the situation between the US and Russia more dangerous than during the Cold War. Vladimir Putin himself has stated that the West does not hear his warnings. In an effort to avoid war, Putin wrings everything possible out of diplomacy. He enters into agreements with Washington that he must know will not be kept.

So much has happened to teach him this lesson— the Washington instigated invasion of South Ossetia by Georgia while he was at the Beijing Olympics, Washington’s coup in Ukraine while he was at the Sochi Olympics, Washington’s abandonment of the Minsk Agreement, the advantage Washington took of the Syrian ceasefire agreements, the violation of Washington’s promise not to move NATO to Russia’s border, Washington’s sacking of the Anti-ABM Treaty, the orchestrated blame of Russia for MH-17, Hillary’s hacked emails, etc.

Washington clearly intends to use Russia’s military and diplomatic assistance to Syria to convict Russia in world public opinion of war crimes. It was Russia’s hesitancy in Syria that enabled Washington to recover from the defeat of its ISIS mercenaries and substitute control of the explanation for defeat on the ground.

Russia’s air assault on ISIS in Syria caught Washington off guard and quickly rolled up the Washington-supported ISIS forces, completely reversing the tide of war. Had Russia finished the job, Syria would have been cleared of hostile forces before Washington could catch its breath.

Instead, pressured by the Atlanticist Integrationist element in the Russian elite, the Russian government withdrew, announcing mission accomplished and relying on the Syrian Army to complete the job. This strategic error allowed Washington not merely to replenish the ISIS munitions that had been destroyed and to muster more mercenaries, but more importantly to come up with a plan for Russia’s and Assad’s undoing.

By the time that the Russian government realized that early withdrawal was a mistake and re-entered the conflict, Washington had decided that if Dasmacus could not be “liberated,” Syria could be partitioned and pressure kept on Assad in that way. Yet the Russian government continued to postpone victory by cease fire agreements that Washington used to rearm ISIS and as propaganda weapons against Russia.

Whatever the outcome of the military conflict in Syria, Russia faces a war criminal conviction by the Western media, if not by the UN Human Rights Council, and a no-fly zone in Syria if Hillary becomes president of the US.

This is the huge cost that Putin paid for listening to the unrealistic, American-worshipping Atlanticist Integrationists who are determined that Russia be accepted by the West even if it means being a semi-vassal. If there is nuclear war, the Russian Atlanticist Integrationists will share the blame with the American neoconservatives. And all of us will pay the price for the disaster produced by these few, the neoconservatives demanding war and the Atlanticist Integrationists demanding appeasement of Washington.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 22:02
by habal
This is a nice website:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Fill in London (or any city of your choice).
Fill in 100 000 kiloton (100 megaton, I put in 300 megaton but it was not accepted).
Select airburst, select casualties, select radioactive fallout.
Press detonate!

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 24 Oct 2016 23:00
by LokeshC
I dont think anyone is going to go nukular anytime in the near future. Not even bakis.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:01
by Singha
300 megaton lol
.not letting bartania of the hook today are you?

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:03
by Singha
In reality none use even 1mt warheads anymore...mostly 250 to 750kt range but mirv to have multiple hits on parts of a large target and cause much more damage than a giant showpiece bomba

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:09
by Singha
Starvation in yemen al hudaidah area after gcc imposed war

https://mobile.twitter.com/I4Yemen/stat ... 80/photo/1

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:24
by IndraD
Mosul offensive: ISIS militants fleeing to Syria, says tribal leader
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/24/middl ... osul-iraq/
According to the Iraqi Joint Operations command center, 78 towns and villages have been liberated so far as the operation to retake the city enters its second week.

The center said 772 ISIS fighters had been killed and 23 were detained, 127 vehicle-borne explosive devices were destroyed, two bomb-making factories were discovered and nearly 400 improvised-explosive devices were remotely detonated so far

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:27
by UlanBatori
Singha wrote:In reality none use even 1mt warheads anymore...mostly 250 to 750kt range but mirv to have multiple hits on parts of a large target and cause much more damage than a giant showpiece bomba
Hmm! I seem 2 remember someone arguing this point in the context of desi new clear detergents and saying that 1MT is passe - and getting beaten up by the hordes. :((

If u hate someone enough to use a 1MT, it is better to spread it out among 8 warheads to do a nice jenn-o-side

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:27
by IndraD
NGO game starts : (intolerance next? :mrgreen: )

A number of human rights and aid organizations have urged the United Nations to deprive Russia of its seat on the UN's Human Rights Council (UNHRC), AFP reported on Monday.

https://www.rt.com/news/363943-un-human-rights-russia/

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:31
by UlanBatori
U mean the Council chaired by Saudi Arabia :roll:

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:49
by IndraD
This year Saudi has executed over 115 people including one from Royal family (beheaded) : and yet continues to be darling of West , champion of human rights.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 01:54
by TSJones
habal wrote:This is a nice website:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Fill in London (or any city of your choice).
Fill in 100 000 kiloton (100 megaton, I put in 300 megaton but it was not accepted).
Select airburst, select casualties, select radioactive fallout.
Press detonate!
excuse Mr. nuclear terrorist genius

but if you select air burst you don't get hardly any radioactive fallout. duh.

there wasn't hardly any at hiroshima or nagasaki.

it takes a ground burst or a body of water (lake, bay, sea, ocean) burst to get a serious amount of radioactive fallout.

and oh, ground bursts aren't very effective unless one is trying to destroy a hardened target like a mijjile silo

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 02:00
by UlanBatori
Hmmm.. 1 learns something every day. Thx. OTOH, a burst at 5000 ft is soo spectacular: people over a wide area get to see the flash and then they burn.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 02:14
by TSJones
at 5000 feet altitude you get an initial radiation dose that will kill most living things for a few square miles depending on the size of the bomb, then, a heat sizzle that will set fire to everything, followed by an atmospheric blast wave. then, fires and smoke everywhere for miles around.

My squadron was nuclear qualified. We had long discussions with the pilots about tactics and delivery and practiced with fake nuke bombs once every quarter, whether we needed it or not....... :(

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 03:46
by IndraD
Islamic State steps up counter-attacks as fighting edges closer to Mosul: evidence emerging that IS dug extensive tunnel network with supplies for days to hold army onslaught but are abandoning posts and running away (to where?- changing clothes to become local natives and disappear in the crowd :mrgreen: ? )

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... SKCN12N0CA

Re: Levant crisis - IIIi

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 07:04
by Singha
The ideological ferocity of the isis elite is matched only patchily by the rank and file. When they were smaller mid sized concern trying to expand all staff were above average...now as a giant mnc, staff quality is across the board and attrition has taken its toll too. Some will run byt be caught by overlords and executed.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 10:31
by Austin
Singha wrote:Being liquid fuel like ss18 and all such xxl heavies i wonder what would its role though....maybe intimidation in a escalation ladder usecase by fueling it up and opening the silo doors...
:D

They are first strike weapon and are always fueled

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 11:15
by Austin
Hill Staffer Floats Solution to Syria War: Assassinate Assad

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/21/hil ... ate-assad/
during an off-the-record briefing on Capitol Hill on Thursday, a staffer for Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-Colo.) floated a distinctly bolder approach.

“What about assassinating [Syrian President Bashar al-] Assad?” the aide said, according to three individuals in the room.

The expert receiving the question was Philip Gordon, the former White House Middle East coordinator, who dismissed the idea as both illegal and ineffective, according to a congressional aide at the event who spoke to Foreign Policy on condition of anonymity.

“His response was basically: ‘That’s against the law, and it wouldn’t make a difference anyway, because the Russians still have an interest in Syria and the Iranians still have an interest in Syria,'” the staffer said.

But even if Assad’s assassination were approved, experts said it would carry numerous risks and potential pitfalls.

“I think Assad’s assassination would certainly cause chaos in Damascus,” mused Andrew Bowen, a Syria expert at the Wilson Center. “But it wouldn’t necessarily lead to the regime’s collapse, and both Russia and Iran are providing a ton of personal protection to Assad and his family. So it might not even work.”

“I also don’t know if we want to set the precedent of decapitating leaders, Cold War-style,” Bowen added.

A representative from the Council on Foreign Relations said Gordon sought to answer the aide’s question by making a case that assassinating Assad — besides being against long-standing U.S. policy — might not have a real impact on the war.

“Even if somehow Assad died or were killed, the essence of the conflict — a regime backed by Russia and Iran versus opposition — might not fundamentally change,” said the representative.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 12:00
by Austin
Arab Intelligence Official: Iraq Will Enhance Ties With Russia Following Mosul Battle

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016 ... ul-battle/
Once the battle of Mosul is complete and if Islamic State is eradicated, the Iraqi government plans to enhance ties with Russia, an Arab intelligence official told Breitbart Jerusalem.

If IS is defeated, he said, “we’ll see great rapprochement, even a strategic alliance, between Russia and the Iraqi government.” He added that setting up a military infrastructure in the Gulf area would be a spectacular strategic achievement for Moscow. “Clearly, the Russians are after more than just another foothold in the Gulf.”

He said that, just like in Syria, Russia has launched a campaign, through its local allies, to sway public opinion in its favor.

“A few clerics, some very prominent, have called on the Iraqi government to allow the Russian air force into their air space to launch attacks on IS and the rebels in Syria,” he said. “In a country where clerics are very influential, especially among the Shi’ite majority, it’s a huge step forward for the Russians and their allies in the Iraqi government.”

He added, though, that the Iraqi leadership is still divided. “We realize that Prime Minister [Haidar] al-Abadi wants to maintain good relations with all his neighbors and wouldn’t want to become a formal Russian satellite, despite the existence of an anti-IS Russian-Iranian-Iraqi-Syrian command room in Baghdad. Abadi wants to get rid of the jihadists, but realizes that warming to the Russians would alienate the Americans, who have built the Iraqi army.”

According to the official, former Prime Minister and current Vice-President Nuri al-Maliki is the primary champion of closer ties with Moscow. “Al-Maliki, who is an Iranian proxy, bears much of the blame for the sectarian tensions in Iraq, and he’s the one doing Iran’s bidding vis-à-vis Russia.”

“To bolster Russia’s stand in Syria and make sure they don’t sacrifice Assad, Iran is ready to pay with Iraqi currency, and to this end they have recruited politicians like al-Maliki and Shi’ite clerics,” he said. “Closer Russian-Iraqi ties will deliver yet another blow to Washington’s allies in the Gulf and jeopardize American interests. Here too, the Russians seek to exploit the period of political twilight America will slide into right after the elections.”

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 12:35
by habal
Austin wrote:Hill Staffer Floats Solution to Syria War: Assassinate Assad

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/21/hil ... ate-assad/
during an off-the-record briefing on Capitol Hill on Thursday, a staffer for Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-Colo.) floated a distinctly bolder approach.

“What about assassinating [Syrian President Bashar al-] Assad?” the aide said, according to three individuals in the room.

The expert receiving the question was Philip Gordon, the former White House Middle East coordinator, who dismissed the idea as both illegal and ineffective, according to a congressional aide at the event who spoke to Foreign Policy on condition of anonymity.

“His response was basically: ‘That’s against the law, and it wouldn’t make a difference anyway, because the Russians still have an interest in Syria and the Iranians still have an interest in Syria,'” the staffer said.

But even if Assad’s assassination were approved, experts said it would carry numerous risks and potential pitfalls.

“I think Assad’s assassination would certainly cause chaos in Damascus,” mused Andrew Bowen, a Syria expert at the Wilson Center. “But it wouldn’t necessarily lead to the regime’s collapse, and both Russia and Iran are providing a ton of personal protection to Assad and his family. So it might not even work.”

“I also don’t know if we want to set the precedent of decapitating leaders, Cold War-style,” Bowen added.

A representative from the Council on Foreign Relations said Gordon sought to answer the aide’s question by making a case that assassinating Assad — besides being against long-standing U.S. policy — might not have a real impact on the war.

“Even if somehow Assad died or were killed, the essence of the conflict — a regime backed by Russia and Iran versus opposition — might not fundamentally change,” said the representative.
response to these kinds of threats is very simple.
You never attack the puppets, always go for their controllers.

More specifically, do not threaten Hillary, Kerry, Hollande, Rasmussen etc. These are puppets. Go for the support structures of their controllers viz the London bankers.

And then watch how quickly all these bravado collapses in the vaccum.

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 12:37
by habal
The IRA defeated the London bankers in the following manners:

IRA ANFO attack 1 (10 April 1992)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Ex ... (building)
IRA ANFO attack 2 (24 April 1993)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishopsgate_bombing
IRA ANFO attack 3 (9 February 1996)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Docklands_bombing
IRA ANFO attack 4 (15 June 1996)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Manchester_bombing

Piper Alpha destroyed by IRA saboteur.
https://youtu.be/Nwbw5PHZnqk
Piper Bravo and Soltar
https://youtu.be/JBAekRNY1cI

Re: Levant crisis - III

Posted: 25 Oct 2016 13:32
by Singha
invasion fleet is approaching mosul from 3 sides and mopping up. by weekend they will be firmly on all the outskirts as phase2 of olympic games will begin.

in the west no clear picture

news has been deliberately curtailed for security reasons as in initial few days lot of operational data and plans were leaked for IS to read on twitter