Bharat Rakshak

Three Japanese nationals, including a woman, who arrived here apparently to participate in the ongoing stir against the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant, were deported by immigration officials, airport sources said today.

The three-- Nakai Shinsuke (45), Undos Yoko (49) and Watarida Macula (61)-- arrived here on Wednesday night by an Air Asia flight from Kuala Lumpur on way to Idinthakarai, focal point of the protests against the Indo-Russian project.

Airport officials, who received a tip-off from central Intelligence officials about their arrival and plans to visit the agitation site, took them into custody and after questioning deported the three within an hour of their arrival at 7 PM, the sources said.

. The dam has withstood many earthquakes in the recent past, including the devastating 1967 Koynanagar earthquake, resulting in the dam developing some cracks. After the disaster grouting of the cracks was done. Also internal holes were drilled to relieve the hydrostatic pressures in the body of the dam. Indian scientific establishment has formulated an ambitious project to drill a deep borehole in the region and intensely study the earthquake activity. This would help in better understanding and possible forecast of earthquakes. The proposal is to drill up to 7 km and study the physical, geological and chemical processes and properties of the reservoir triggered earthquake zone in real time. It would be an international project to be led by Indian scientists.[3]
In 1973 the non-overflow portion of the dam was strengthened, followed by strengthening the spillway section in 2006. Now the dam is expected to be safe against any future earthquake even of more intensity than that of 1967.

I'm on the top of the world lookin' down on creation
And the only explanation I can find
Is the love that I've found for thou art in heaven
ever since you've been around
Your love's put me at the top of the world

Everything I want the world to be
Is now comin' true especially for me in Kudanakulam
And the reason is clear, it's because you are here
My father thou art JC in the worlds above
You're the nearest thing to Heaven that I've seen

"..cannot run a post office properly".

RamaY wrote:I wonder why people who prostrate at the feet of western science do not believe Indian nuclear scientists who say KK is safe, and instead enslave their minds to Christian fathers and JNU-bachelors of Arts NGOs?

RamaY wrote:I wonder why people who prostrate at the feet of western science do not believe Indian nuclear scientists who say KK is safe...

Discontent is brewing among the villagers of Puthupattinam abutting the Kalpakkam nuclear power plant in Kancheepuram district. The villagers, mostly fishermen, are not worried over possible disasters of a nuclear power plant. But their concern is more about denial of employment opportunity to local youth and the depleting natural resources, which they believe, is a result of the nuclear plant operations over the years.

Years of simmering discontent have now evolved into a charter of demands that include uninterrupted power for the village, suitable employment for educated youth in the locality and creation of basic infrastructure, police sources said on Monday.

With the villagers often gathering to discuss further course of action, the Kancheepuram Superintendent of Police S. Manoharan held discussions with them last fortnight. Even on Sunday evening, he visited the village and spoke to the community representatives.

“I had to intervene because some kind of discontent was brewing among the villagers. The local people wanted jobs for eligible persons, power supply from the nuclear power plant, potable water etc. I have conveyed their grievances to the Madras Atomic Power Station authorities. They have promised to take up the issue with the Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd.,” he said.

According to the Puthipattinam panchayat president Kaliaperumal, a majority of employees in the Kalpakkam nuclear plant and atomic research station belonged to other States.

“Though there are hundreds of educated youths in our village, they are never considered for a suitable job. Thousands of our people are employed as daily wage workers in the plant and are paid Rs. 150 per day…we are demanding that their services be regularised,” he said.

Sustained suction of water had caused depletion of the groundwater table.

“The groundwater level which was 10 feet some 20 years ago is more than 120 feet now. At least 30 varieties of fish have vanished along the Kalpakkam coast. how true ?Hundreds of fishermen have lost their livelihood. We are not protesting against nuclear energy…we are only saying give us some facilities,” he said.

Another resident of Puthupattinam said the local people had given lands for the plant and supported all its activities.

Generating employment for the local community and providing basic amenities such as power, water and roads is the fundamental principle of any major industry. “Now they are supplying nuclear power to other States while we are living in darkness due to prolonged power cuts. In the event of any eventuality owing to the nuclear power plant, we will the first to suffer. If the same situation continues, we will have no other option but to take the agitation to the next level,” he said adding that the district SP had held several rounds of talks and the local people were confident that he would take up their grievances at the appropriate level.

svenkat wrote:
“Though there are hundreds of educated youths in our village, they are never considered for a suitable job. Thousands of our people are employed as daily wage workers in the plant and are paid Rs. 150 per day…we are demanding that their services be regularised,” he said.

Sustained suction of water had caused depletion of the groundwater table.

“The groundwater level which was 10 feet some 20 years ago is more than 120 feet now. At least 30 varieties of fish have vanished along the Kalpakkam coast. how true ?Hundreds of fishermen have lost their livelihood. We are not protesting against nuclear energy…we are only saying give us some facilities,” he said.

Another resident of Puthupattinam said the local people had given lands for the plant and supported all its activities.

Generating employment for the local community and providing basic amenities such as power, water and roads is the fundamental principle of any major industry. “Now they are supplying nuclear power to other States while we are living in darkness due to prolonged power cuts. In the event of any eventuality owing to the nuclear power plant, we will the first to suffer. If the same situation continues, we will have no other option but to take the agitation to the next level,” he said adding that the district SP had held several rounds of talks and the local people were confident that he would take up their grievances at the appropriate level.

“The groundwater level which was 10 feet some 20 years ago is more than 120 feet now. At least 30 varieties of fish have vanished along the Kalpakkam coast

nakul wrote:^^^

“The groundwater level which was 10 feet some 20 years ago is more than 120 feet now. At least 30 varieties of fish have vanished along the Kalpakkam coast

They have started blaming the reactor even before it went operational. Imagine how it will be when things start functioning.

svenkat wrote: “The groundwater level which was 10 feet some 20 years ago is more than 120 feet now. At least 30 varieties of fish have vanished along the Kalpakkam coast. how true ?

Theo_Fidel wrote:This is not correct.

The plant is on ocean side and between the villages and ocean. Salt water ingress would affect the plant first!
Also the Site is underlain by Peninsular Gneiss a particularly resistant formation. Water only perches on top of it. It is quite easy for pumping to lower the water table. There is no backflow contact between the Ocean and the subsurface water in this area.

That said, there has been excessive pumping for agriculture for the past few decades. Compared to that the effect of the plant may be less than stated.

nakul wrote:Do we want this daily or possible radioactive contamination? Union carbide showed that fertilizer production is unsafe. Let's go back to using gobar.

Theo_Fidel wrote: Lilo,

There is no backflow contact between the ocean and the land due to Granitic (Charnockite) rock, mostly impermeable. Your sketch showing ocean water flowing below the freshwater below the land surface is incorrect. The Saline ingress is only within the sedimentary stratum on the Eastern edge.

Theo_Fidel wrote:

RamaY wrote:I wonder why people who prostrate at the feet of western science do not believe Indian nuclear scientists who say KK is safe...

They have never said anything of the kind. Go read AG and then comment. The truth is they are all under a gag order. Privately many have quietly expressed more caution. KKNPP is not Indian technology. It is a full order of magnitude larger than anything Indian engineers have previously operated. If blind faith is now necessary to be a citizen I suggest we can all go home now. Not one more mention of 2G or Railway accident or Narora fire or Kaiga collapse or Kaveri engine.....

Theo_Fidel wrote: The source of angst is lack of benefit for locals compared to risks being taken in their backyard without adequate consensus. Kalam had the right idea but GOI/DAE is too hard headed to listen. They are losing the nuclear consensus. Opposition will persist. Local have the time to do this indefinitely.

Theo_Fidel wrote:Bade,

Opposition is to present set up. GOI should not be in charge of nuclear energy. It can't even run a post office properly. Even Kudankulam is being done on the cheap without adhering to modern western standards. If Kudankulam conformed prices/true cost would go up dramatically.
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Yes folks on the sea shore are apparently less important. And you know no one depends on the ocean for lively hood. 'Affecting' the ocean is apparently not a problem.

Theo_Fidel wrote:RamaY,

What kind of nonsense is this. Nuclear technology itself is Western technology. In fact the entire Nuclear plant is 90% west manufactured technology. For that matter modern Hinduism has almost appropriated all the aspects of Jesus freaks and Islam freaks to now create Hindu freaks. You yourself have repeatedly denigrated modern India and wished for its end how can you now pretend to be its defender. One or the other boss, if you don't want pain in your crotch from straddling the fence....

As you usual we are now OT on this thread as well.....

RoyG wrote:As I said before, Theo_Fidel will not change his views. Please don't waste your time responding. We must focus on other nuclear topics.

disha wrote:

RoyG wrote:As I said before, Theo_Fidel will not change his views. Please don't waste your time responding. We must focus on other nuclear topics.

I think we are all for *valid* points where safety has been compromised and it is okay for posters to bring out the safety issues. At the same time it has to be balanced. It is nobody's case to change Theo's views.

However it becomes a case for Theo to acknowledge the truth that the Tamizh church is in cahoots in this protests and introduced a religious angle to an objective debate. Further innocent Indian lives have been lost due to the Tamizh church and nary a pipsquick of remorse and of course no criticism of the tamizh church or even certain leaders of the tamizh church. The question does arise "Does religion come first?"., that is exhibit objectivity everywhere except when the church is involved., even if it has become an inadvertant accessory to murder. Defending such a position, is not just an assault on logic., but an assault on our belief systems as well.

The sham of PMANE was to be seen, "relay hunger strikes" for example! They did not even have the conviction of potti sri-ramulu to sit on a permanent hunger strike till death comes calling. And what about surrendering to police? Did they? They are hiding in the church knowing fully well that any entrance of police in the church will lead to "religious conflagaration".

As usual, follow the money, and just like Pope Leo X., PMANE and some members of the tamizh church are using the name of christ and the innocent members of the church to line up their pockets with money and power. I will not be surprised if this mafia is interlinked with drug running or land grabbing.

I think it is duty bound for people who believe in India (or Bharat) to save the innocent souls of the tamizh church mislead by their leaders in cohort with PMANE. Indeed several lives are at stake.

As it is, the inability to proceed with the project at the original Nilgiris site has set back the project by at least six-seven years. Consequently, China has upstaged INO in one of its main science goals....Politicians are doing a great disservice to scientific advance in India by whipping up unfounded fears about the neutrino project