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Sanku wrote:Also please understand that when a parliamentarian speaks in the parliament, particularly some on of MM Joshi's stature, on a prominent national issue, he is speaking NOT on his behalf, but on behalf of the party. Here there is no Jaitely, NO modi, No sushma.
MM Joshi is contradicting the recent public statements of Jaitley, Rajnath Singh and others when he says fiscal deficit does not matter and can be increased further. Either he's not speaking on behalf of the party, or the party seems to be speaking in two voices on this matter. You might want to ascertain which one applies.
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Arjun wrote: All this talk of BJP being a 'collectivist' organization fails on several grounds. If it were truly collectivist, how come the BJP in Karnataka was such a basket case and it is a star in Gujarat ? At the end of the day, everything boils down to personalities.
Oh Kkta is not a basket case by any means, yes, it has not performed as well as Gujarat, but basket case? Kkta is certainly slightly better than average.

Furthermore, Gujarat and Kkta are two different problems from BJP perspective, Kkta is a recent entrant into BJP network, Guj has been a bastion for BJP since many decades now.

A collectivist approach can succeed for fail in different problems differently, just like individuals can succeed and fail different. At one point of time, it was mentioned that Modi had also washed his hands of Kkta, there is no guarantee that the same indiviual would magically succeed elsewhere.
And I would be uncomfortable trusting the economy to anybody in the BJP other than Modi & Jaitley (& possibly Yashwant Sinha) and the team they specifically choose to appoint.
I would say then you would accept to be uncomfortable. I doubt that any of these people are going to be handling the economy for BJP (except Modi indirectly if he is PM)

No point getting your hopes up for something which has very little chances of coming true. (Note I do not share your apprehensions, Shri MM Joshi is anyway not remotely interested in that portfolio, he will want something very different -- I also am a strong believer in collective responsibility of the cabinet)

Now coming to your criticism of MM Joshi.
ow instead of attacking the UPA for these two above facts - what does Murli Joshi do? He says economic growth rate is not everything and that they should bust the fiscal deficit even more!! If he wanted to take a pro-poor political stance I am not against that. Parties definitely have a responsibility to show concern for the disadvantaged...but what he should have said is UPA has failed on the growth front and equally they have failed in providing for the poor. He should have said that they have busted the fiscal responsibility that BJP has been so proud of, and yet failed to satisfy the needs of the disadvantaged.
All right you would expect him to say something else. Possible. I would probably accept that your statement is more solid from economic angle. However a speech in Parliament is also politics, and as people have been pointing out, good economics is not necessarily good politics. Good moral stands is not often a good political posture.

Many statements made in parliament are also for general public consumption, only so much can be read into it and no more. Certainly no basis for name calling.

Also I reiterate.

Also please understand that when a parliamentarian speaks in the parliament, particularly some on of MM Joshi's stature, on a prominent national issue, he is speaking NOT on his behalf, but on behalf of the party. Here there is no Jaitely, NO modi, No sushma.

So saying that the views are MM Joshi etc, certainly does not hold water. These are common BJP views, discussed and expressed through Shri MM Joshi.

This is true for ALL political parties. When their senior members speak on broad topics, they represent the party.

You need to understand this political reality please.
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Arjun wrote:
Sanku wrote:Also please understand that when a parliamentarian speaks in the parliament, particularly some on of MM Joshi's stature, on a prominent national issue, he is speaking NOT on his behalf, but on behalf of the party. Here there is no Jaitely, NO modi, No sushma.
MM Joshi is contradicting the recent public statements of Jaitley, Rajnath Singh and others when he says fiscal deficit does not matter and can be increased further. Either he's not speaking on behalf of the party, or the party seems to be speaking in two voices on this matter. You might want to ascertain which one applies.
This is a easy one. 8)

Party is speaking in two voices.

Its a common political positioning. Something like good cop/bad cop. Targeting different constituencies, maintaining certain amount of ambiguity etc.
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/fumin ... n/1088027/

Fuming at Narendra Modi snub, Indian-American 'boycotts' Wharton
A noted Indian-American physician has withdrawn from the annual Wharton India Economic Forum in the wake the organiser's decision to cancel a key-note address by Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

New Jersey-based eminent physician, philanthropist and publisher, Sudhir Parikh, was invited to address the WIEF conference on March 23 in place of The Wall Street columnist Sadanand Dhume, who withdrew from the conference in protest of the forum's handling the Modi affair.

"As an immigrant of over 30 years standing and dedicated to promoting the cause of India and Indian Americans, I look forward to sharing my thoughts about NRIs as ambassadors of India," Dr Parikh told WIFE.

"However, the manner in which the committee has been pressurised to rescind its invitation to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi on entirely suspicious grounds, I feel the intellectual integrity of the forum has been compromised," Dr Parikh said in his letter, a copy of which was made available to the PTI.

Parikh, who is publisher of several India American publications in the US, said as a publisher he is constrained to err on the side of the free flow of ideas and unfettered discussion public policy issue be it in academics or journalism.

"It is for this reason; I have no choice but to withdraw my name from the panel of speakers of this year's forum," said Parikh, who in 2012 was conferred with the

Padma Shri award by the then President Pratibha Patil.
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Arjun: it is all rationalization, we can criticize leaders without getting down to calling names. We all know how smart we all are, in making up new names. Armen is not going to feel sorry if we do not contribute a few more words to BRF dictionary. I could call Modi idiot/fool/casteist ityadi for inducting back former BJP members who went astray. I do not understand constant denigration of INC and its leaders all the time here, I am not opposed to good sound criticisms of any one.
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SwamyG wrote:Arjun: it is all rationalization, we can criticize leaders without getting down to calling names. We all know how smart we all are, in making up new names. Armen is not going to feel sorry if we do not contribute a few more words to BRF dictionary. I could call Modi idiot/fool/casteist ityadi for inducting back former BJP members who went astray. I do not understand constant denigration of INC and its leaders all the time here, I am not opposed to good sound criticisms of any one.
SwamyG: feel free to point out to me why my questioning of the intelligence of a certain BJP representative was not 'sound criticism'. I have provided a justification, and you can point out where it goes wrong. As far as I am concerned, questioning intelligence of our public representatives and officials when it is backed by justification - is not out of bounds. There are several 'names' which I have strong objections to and I would personally never use - eg 'Traitor', non family-friendly references ('dildo etc')...but questioning intelligence is not among them.
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The destruction of AP. Going back to 80s...

Sonia and YSR model of Governance/Development.


http://www.apherald.com/Politics/ViewAr ... now-Sugar/
The state of Andhra Pradesh has seen many setbacks from the time congress party came into power. The various levels of corruption, the inefficient administration, the internal political strife and the non availability of the leaders has made things a mess and the results of that can already be seen. Today the state is suffering with severe shortage of water, power and now the industries are getting hit badly due to that. The first industry to take a blow out of this is the Sugar industry. At one point, Andhra Pradesh was famous for having three big sugar factories in the state and they had great business. But today all those three units have faced a shutdown and reports are arriving that few other units which have been doing well are also in the threat of a shutdown. This is having an indirect effect on the farmers and their livelihood. Even the locals are losing out on employment opportunities because of that. Where are we heading?

http://www.apherald.com/Politics/ViewAr ... t-problem/
The moment one hears or thinks about Andhra Pradesh the only thing that comes to mind is ‘problems’. Thanks to the poor administration of the government and the thick skinned attitude of its leaders the situation of Andhra Pradesh has become pathetic in the last decade. And many problems have risen. Today, all are talking about political problem, power problem, growth problem, water problem etc but there is a much bigger problem than that. The entire state is getting crippled due to unemployment problem. Due to the other factors many industries are shutting down and this is throwing many out of jobs. On the agricultural front, due to poor power and water supply the crops are not growing and the farmers are going out of work. More than looking at growth and development the immediate need of the government is to restructure the employment situation. Or else things are going to get worse.
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^ Very true and sad.

What YSR achieved in Andhra by 2009 is spread to national level under UPA2.

Do you think INC would have won in AP if YSR survived? If the answer is Yes, then we will have UPA3.
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BTW, NM was mentioned as "India's Ronald Reagan" for his development economics in WSJ. So was his SRCC speech. After CBNji and maino maun sigh, NM has been mentioned and equated with an enduring and very reverred political icon in US. FWIW.
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Arjun Ji,
I respect your commitment (no different than all of us who wants good for the country). Before replying here I did search and did scan some of your last 100 pages. I gather you do not write much on economics, mostly on politics (like me). The one place you have chosen to write about economics is to criticize MMJ. You do state that the economy is in dire strait, (sarcasm on) - last I checked, for the last 9 years UPA is ruling India and ruining the economy (hope you agree with ruining part). I would guess MMJ had almost 0 impact or input in economy in this last 9 years or say even last 20 years (or ever). You choose not to criticize PC or PM or MMS or 2Gs, but MMJ (and you have been quite persistent, it is also called belief in self or a cause bigger than self). It is an admirable quality, I have failed many times in life, when people have asked me to bend I have crawled. I hope you are made of better metal and do have that faith in self or a cause; but why attack MMJ, and why after repetedly told that MMJ has 0 impact, desist or find a more meaningful target? Is it ego? as in I have a viewpoint and I can argue and so I will?
To me it looks like that the fight is out there. The people screwing the economy are MMS, Ahuluwalia, Gandhis, PC, PM, SD, NAC Members...I can really list 100 names and it may still not contain MMJ. If you are that passionate, why not go after the real culprits. Why this shadow?
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fanne wrote:Arjun Ji,
I respect your commitment (no different than all of us who wants good for the country). Before replying here I did search and did scan some of your last 100 pages. I gather you do not write much on economics, mostly on politics (like me). The one place you have chosen to write about economics is to criticize MMJ. You do state that the economy is in dire strait, (sarcasm on) - last I checked, for the last 9 years UPA is ruling India and ruining the economy (hope you agree with ruining part). I would guess MMJ had almost 0 impact or input in economy in this last 9 years or say even last 20 years (or ever). You choose not to criticize PC or PM or MMS or 2Gs, but MMJ (and you have been quite persistent, it is also called belief in self or a cause bigger than self). It is an admirable quality, I have failed many times in life, when people have asked me to bend I have crawled. I hope you are made of better metal and do have that faith in self or a cause; but why attack MMJ, and why after repetedly told that MMJ has 0 impact, desist or find a more meaningful target? Is it ego? as in I have a viewpoint and I can argue and so I will?
To me it looks like that the fight is out there. The people screwing the economy are MMS, Ahuluwalia, Gandhis, PC, PM, SD, NAC Members...I can really list 100 names and it may still not contain MMJ. If you are that passionate, why not go after the real culprits. Why this shadow?
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Uh, you should check the Economy dhaaga. Arjun has criticized the UPA mandarins a lot over their economic policies of the last 9 years. As have most others over there.

MM Joshi's statement, if true is definitely worthy of criticism from an economic standpoint. But I wouldn't be too much worried. MM Joshi is unlikely to be anywhere near the FinMin if the BJP does come to power again. And if NaMo is the PM, he will definitely be involved in setting the country's economic agenda.
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My bad then, apologies, I only checked few pages!! If he is really following Economics and crtiquing, then what he did was right!!
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fanne wrote:Arjun Ji,
I respect your commitment (no different than all of us who wants good for the country). Before replying here I did search and did scan some of your last 100 pages. I gather you do not write much on economics, mostly on politics (like me). The one place you have chosen to write about economics is to criticize MMJ. You do state that the economy is in dire strait, (sarcasm on) - last I checked, for the last 9 years UPA is ruling India and ruining the economy (hope you agree with ruining part). I would guess MMJ had almost 0 impact or input in economy in this last 9 years or say even last 20 years (or ever). You choose not to criticize PC or PM or MMS or 2Gs, but MMJ (and you have been quite persistent, it is also called belief in self or a cause bigger than self). It is an admirable quality, I have failed many times in life, when people have asked me to bend I have crawled. I hope you are made of better metal and do have that faith in self or a cause; but why attack MMJ, and why after repetedly told that MMJ has 0 impact, desist or find a more meaningful target? Is it ego? as in I have a viewpoint and I can argue and so I will?
To me it looks like that the fight is out there. The people screwing the economy are MMS, Ahuluwalia, Gandhis, PC, PM, SD, NAC Members...I can really list 100 names and it may still not contain MMJ. If you are that passionate, why not go after the real culprits. Why this shadow?
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Not sure how you derived this information, Fanne ji. You can scan my posts (you'll need to select "Economic and Political Forum" under Forums) - you should see at least 200+ posts on the economy side. You can go through them and form an opinion as to whether I have been soft on the Dynasty. All I'll say is you are totally off the mark.

Anyway lets put this issue to bed. The economy is headed towards a MAJOR crisis - don't know how many realize that....and that is one more reason to get the BJP leadership issue firmly settled so we know who's in charge.
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Ania Loomba responds

http://www.thedp.com/article/2013/03/yo ... omic-forum

An excerpt:
Recently, one of India’s most respected historians has written that “Mr. Modi seeks to make his party, his government, his administration and his country an extension of his personality” and notes his “brash, bullying, hyper-masculine style, the suspicion (and occasional targeting) of Muslims.” His supporters claim that he is an elected leader but so were several dictators in history.
This passes off as analysis. And she is a professor? Most kids these days can write better researched articles.
Enjoy the comments ! Read the comments! Did not know Loomba was a friend of Angana Chatterji!
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Mohandas Pai pulls out as well from WIEF.
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Perhaps one should write to UPenn to let go of these professors because they do not do any factual research and indulge in hate-mongering politics.
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RamaY wrote:^ Very true and sad.

What YSR achieved in Andhra by 2009 is spread to national level under UPA2.

Do you think INC would have won in AP if YSR survived? If the answer is Yes, then we will have UPA3.
I am very positive that he would not have returned. Even in 2009, he won because of Chiranjeevi.
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Something is fishy about wharton-
There were originally 6 key note speakers including NaMo.
Onec NaMo bomshell happened, quickly many withdrew.

Currently even Murli Deora congi minister is no longer one of the keynote speakers.
Only Montek Singh Ahluwali and Ron summers are the original keynote speakers.

In Health care, Dr Preetha Reddy, managing director of Apollo Hospitals, and Dr Ashwin Naik, CEO and co-founder of Vaatsalya Healthcare, are no longer among the listed speakers.
Dr Sudhir Parikh was roped in to replace Mr Dume who withdrew. However Dr parikh also withdrew giving headaches to the organisers.

Good that wharton is getting some mighty jhappad. It needs to be scr*wed royally along with its supporters for playing politics.

Meanwhile Briturd airways has become one of the sponsors along with GOI(indirectly).


It is heartening that NaMo the "most reviled CM ever India has produced" :mrgreen: according to congis supporters is producing such strong reaction amongst all.

Look at the website http://www.whartonindia.com/
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UPenn has "The Center for Advanced Study of India" (CASI) that hosts the pre-nuke deal talks and Singh Talbott talks.
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Sushupti wrote:Mohandas Pai pulls out as well from WIEF.
Pai told TOI that his decision was prompted by a string of instances of Indian politicians and diplomats being "treated shabbily" by some countries. "I've been upset for a few days but the last straw came with Italy disrespecting the Indian Prime Minister and our Supreme Court by not letting its marines face trial for murder as it had promised earlier. This is an insult to bilateral partnership," he said.

"Wharton treated Narendra Modi shabbily, our Prime Minister and Supreme Court are treated badly by the Italian government, Pakistan is making comments on Afzal Guru's hanging, Lanka is treating our fishermen as illegal immigrants. Now, I don't feel good about attending the Wharton event," Pai said.
Don't know what all the other instances have got to do with Wharton - but it is a good decision by Pai nevertheless. Sankuji, hope you agree that some credit is due... 8)
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And why does montek singh want to devalue himself by going to a student body event is surprising. They are trying to punch way above their weight ... They should invite some indian businessmen from pennsylvania or new jersey rather than expect to get high level people to fly all the way there for a one day muppet show.
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Arjun wrote:
Sushupti wrote:Mohandas Pai pulls out as well from WIEF.
Pai told TOI that his decision was prompted by a string of instances of Indian politicians and diplomats being "treated shabbily" by some countries. "I've been upset for a few days but the last straw came with Italy disrespecting the Indian Prime Minister and our Supreme Court by not letting its marines face trial for murder as it had promised earlier. This is an insult to bilateral partnership," he said.

"Wharton treated Narendra Modi shabbily, our Prime Minister and Supreme Court are treated badly by the Italian government, Pakistan is making comments on Afzal Guru's hanging, Lanka is treating our fishermen as illegal immigrants. Now, I don't feel good about attending the Wharton event," Pai said.
Don't know what all the other instances have got to do with Wharton - but it is a good decision by Pai nevertheless. Sankuji, hope you agree that some credit is due... 8)
If he pulls out because of NM, he is communal.
If he pulls out because of NM, MMS, SC, etc, he is fair because he does equal-equal.
If he pulls out because of MMS, he is secular.

Perversion of secular mind that plague many Indians is at play in his comments.
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This is a gem...a truly hard hitting article by Arvind Kumar: Attacks on Hindus play out in the theater of the absurd
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Arjun wrote: Don't know what all the other instances have got to do with Wharton - but it is a good decision by Pai nevertheless. Sankuji, hope you agree that some credit is due... 8)
Wow, I am speechless. This is fairly big.

Okay Arjun-ji >> what do you want me to eat now, crow soup, hat? Choice is yours.
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Sanku wrote:Okay Arjun-ji >> what do you want me to eat now, crow soup, hat? Choice is yours.
Must say even I am surprised by the speed of events. He accepted and then rejected within a day or two - kind of like Wharton's original action.

The organizers seem to be running out of all options...
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^^Interestingly, some of the student attendees at the event plan on wearing NaMo badges as a sign of protest. Read this in an interview somewhere. Yup, nothing like kicking a hornets nest to wake up the hornets only. The political Yindu's time in the sun is coming, or so I hope.
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^^Things are slowly pointing in that direction. The decay of the west will inevitably result in the restoration of the ancient or rather default status of the world, with the East (India) on top.
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Today's daily NaMo dose from India Today...

Modi's 3D speeches during 2012 elections enter Guiness Book
The 3D broadcasts of the speeches of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi during the 2012 Assembly elections have entered the Guiness Book of World Records, he stated today.

"Gujarat election campaign 2012 becomes even more memorable with the 3D interaction creating a Guinness World [record]," Modi said on twitter.

The Guinness World Record for most simultaneous shows of 'the Pepper's Ghost Illusion' (a technology) is now held by Raj Kasu Reddy and Mani Shankar of NChant 3D, which telecast, live, a 55 minute speech by Modi to 53 locations across Gujarat on December 10, 2012, Modi said on his blog.

Nchant 3d used 3D 'holographic projection technology' for this purpose.

This technology is popular in Europe, and has been also used by Hollywood celebrities like Madonna and Mariah Carey.
yay, I guess.
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nachiket wrote: MM Joshi's statement, if true is definitely worthy of criticism from an economic standpoint. But I wouldn't be too much worried. MM Joshi is unlikely to be anywhere near the FinMin if the BJP does come to power again. And if NaMo is the PM, he will definitely be involved in setting the country's economic agenda.
Another useless politician. Yeah yeah, someone will go to 1889 to prove that how great this MM Joshi gent is and how he descended from heaven etc.
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Whats with the name calling Muppalla Garu? And for what reason?
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Sanku wrote:Whats with the name calling Muppalla Garu? And for what reason?
What is my sin. We can't even say someone is a useless politician.

Added later:
The problem here is now when we call someone is useless based on their current behavior then some other poster comes and goes to that particular politician's better days.

Recently I was to a great friend of mine. He gave me a cricket anology. You cannot play cricket with Sunil Gavaskar now because we all loved him. Completely out of touch with "what it is now" and no strategy for "how to get to the top" but want to hang in and do bhashans to create fissures are the hall marks of this MMJ types. By the way he is another great gent who opposed Modi.
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Muppalla wrote:
Sanku wrote:Whats with the name calling Muppalla Garu? And for what reason?
What is my sin. We can't even say someone is a useless politician.
Well, the thread has been reduced to basically bad mouthing pretty much everyone, and almost only from BJP. This is not even accompanied with any discussion, any articles, any reasons. Just one liner name calls.

I fail to see what is the purpose of this exercise is.

That is all
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Sanku wrote: Well, the thread has been reduced to basically bad mouthing pretty much everyone, and almost only from BJP. This is not even accompanied with any discussion, any articles, any reasons. Just one liner name calls.

I fail to see what is the purpose of this exercise is.

That is all
This thread is specifically Narendra Modi Vs the Dynasty. The challenge is how NaMo's party men will help in his challenge. There is every reason to criticize if someone makes anti-Modi statements and even if the topic is not Modi because he is marked now. :)
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Muppalla wrote:
Sanku wrote: Well, the thread has been reduced to basically bad mouthing pretty much everyone, and almost only from BJP. This is not even accompanied with any discussion, any articles, any reasons. Just one liner name calls.

I fail to see what is the purpose of this exercise is.

That is all
This thread is specifically Narendra Modi Vs the Dynasty. The challenge is how NaMo's party men will help in his challenge. There is every reason to criticize if someone makes anti-Modi statements and even if the topic is not Modi because he is marked now. :)
Some one posts a congress newspaper junk and people start falling over themselves to make the congress psy-ops real !?!

Further, I dont think just because some one started a thread with a name it gives people to use that as an excuse to call names to everyone without rhyme or reason, even when that has nothing to do with Modi. Which is what is happening here.

Even if people in BJP expressely state they prefer some one lese, Modi is not Shri Ram that some one who says "Modi is not my choice for PM, xyz is" should be called names. There has to be some sense of proportion.

I really doubt that this is going to make Modi's case stronger.
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Kejriwal and montek singh are listed as via videoconference heh heh at this rate the media and entertainment panel will be the only ones physically there.
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Singha wrote:Kejriwal and montek singh are listed as via videoconference heh heh at this rate the media and entertainment panel will be the only ones physically there.
For fulsome entertainment they should have called anna hazare, Arundhati Roy and also Bab Ramdev for color. That would be like bhab-chika-bum movement during CCL.
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Isn't it hypocritical to feel angry if someone calls a BJP leader names, but then people will call INC leaders names?
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This is for those who are living in USA.
AMERICANS FOR FREE SPEECH

PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO BYCOTT UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA FOR TRAMPLING ON FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS

The cancellation of Chief Minister Narendra Modi’s (Modi) keynote address at Wharton India Economic Forum (Wharton) on March 23rd has evoked a widespread consternation all over the United States of America and touched the deep cord among the lovers or Freedom of Expression and liberty of thought.

“Americans for Free Speech”, a newly formed group is in the process of obtaining Police Permission to hold a peaceful protest on South Street between 32nd and 33rd

Street in front of the main entrance of Penn Museum, Philadelphia (where the conference is being held), from 12:00 to 02:30 pm.

As a protest many financial sponsors and speakers have withdrawn their names from the conference. This has brought ignominy and disrepute to Wharton. It has caused turmoil, nervousness and embarrassment; and exposed the malicious designs of those who have unleashed baseless and slanderous propaganda blitz against Modi.

Please spare a few moments and sign it.

Here is the Link:
https://www.change.org/petitions/boycot ... ghts#share
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Isn't it hypocritical to feel angry if someone calls a BJP leader names, but then people will call INC leaders names?
So one should exercise free speech and go call whoever one wants names, preferably backed up with some sound reasoning only (for credibility purposes). How does lamenting alleged hypocrisy help matters?
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Muppalla garu,

boycott is mis-spelt in the very title of the petition. Doesn't bode well for petition cred, IMO.
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