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Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 19 Apr 2011 11:25
by Anindya
Lest we forget....

From http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110419/j ... 72750.html
Jyoti Yadav (left), wife of Major Deepak Yadav, and Major Seema Roy, wife of Major Nitesh Roy, receive the Shaurya Chakra (posthumous) during a defence investiture ceremony at Rashtrapati Bhavan on Monday. Yadav and Roy were killed in the attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul on July 7, 2008. Picture by Ramakant Kushwaha

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 Apr 2011 18:43
by Sushupti
Demand to rebuild Bamiyan Buddhas and other Hindu Heritage sites in Afghanistan

OVERVIEW
In the nineties, after the emergence of the Taliban as a ruthless and barbaric force in Afghanistan, hundreds of historically significant religious sites were destroyed within a span of 6 years. Of these the Bamiyan Buddha Statues, have received the greatest worldwide attention.

After the defeat of the Taliban, the people of Afghanistan and the rest of the world expected the immediate reconstruction of not only these monuments, but also the other Hindu and Sikh places of worship. Yet no steps of restoration and reconstruction have taken place. The Afghan government is yet to fulfill their moral obligation to Hindus and the world at large.



We the undersigned, request the Afghan Government to immediately restore the historical monuments of these communities
http://www.change.org/petitions/demand- ... fghanistan

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 22 Apr 2011 00:50
by ramana
MMS to visit Afghanistan next month.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 25 Apr 2011 12:25
by SSridhar
Massive jailbreak in Kandahar; 450 Taliban detainees freed
Geez. it is the same Sarposa prison which Taliban attacked and release all prisoners in 2008 !
Taliban insurgents dug a more than 1,050-foot (320-meter) tunnel underground and into the main jail in Kandahar city and whisked out more than 450 prisoners, most of whom were Taliban fighters, officials and the insurgents said Monday.

The massive jailbreak overnight in Afghanistan’s second-largest city serves as a reminder of the Afghan government’s continuing weakness in the south, despite an influx of international troops, funding and advisers. Kandahar city, in particular, has been a focus of the international effort to establish a strong Afghan government presence in former Taliban strongholds.

The 1,200-inmate Sarposa Prison has been part of that plan. The facility has undergone security upgrades and tightened procedures following a brazen 2008 Taliban attack that freed 900 prisoners. {After that jailbreak, Taliban captured several villages around Kandahar further tightening the noose around the city} Afghan government officials and their NATO backers have regularly said that the prison has vastly improved security since that attack.

Four of those who escaped were provincial-level Taliban commanders, said Qari Yousef Ahmadi, another Taliban spokesman

The highest-profile Taliban inmates would likely not be held at Sarposa. The U.S. keeps detainees it considers a threat at a facility outside of Bagram Air Base in eastern Afghanistan. Other key Taliban prisoners are held by the Afghan government in a high-security wing of the main prison in Kabul.

A man who Taliban spokesmen said was one of the inmates who helped organize the escape from the inside said a group of inmates obtained copies of the keys to the cells ahead of time.

“There were four or five of us who knew that our friends were digging a tunnel from the outside,” said Mohammad Abdullah, who said he had been in Sarposa prison for two years after being captured in nearby Zhari district with a stockpile of weapons. “Some of our friends helped us by providing copies of the keys. When the time came at night, we managed to open the doors for friends who were in other rooms.”

He said they woke the inmates up four or five at a time to get them out quietly. Abdullah spoke by phone on a number supplied by a Taliban spokesman. His account could not be immediately verified.

The governor of Kandahar province confirmed at least 475 escaped and said that a search operation is going on to recapture them.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 25 Apr 2011 14:49
by Pratyush
^^^

and many BRFits crib about the softness of the MMS govt. The same is the case for the KHans apparently

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 27 Apr 2011 01:54
by VinodTK

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 29 Apr 2011 10:05
by SSridhar
India's Limited Options in Afghanistan - IDSA Comment
India has spent a lot of money and blood in Afghanistan and enjoys goodwill amongst its people. Despite the talk about India having key strategic interests in Afghanistan, the fact remains that India does not have either the necessary resources or the clout to influence developments in Afghanistan. It supports the Karzai government but has little political influence. The occasional talk of sending troops to Afghanistan to stabilize the situation there is dangerous and has no traction within India. Unfortunately, Pakistan and Western experts and officials are perpetuating the myth that India and Pakistan are locked in a deadly strategic rivalry in Afghanistan. This is not borne out by the facts including that of the Indian presence in Afghanistan, which is essentially for socio-economic reconstruction.

Of course, the situation in Afghanistan will not remain static in the next three years. But, at the moment, it seems that Afghanistan may become even more unstable as the foreign troops withdraw without pacifying the Taliban. Pakistan’s greater involvement in Afghanistan is bound to throw up a new regional dynamics. It remains to be seen how Pakistan will fare, as a superpower is yet again on the brink of defeat in Afghanistan.

The international community desperately needs fresh ideas on Afghanistan. The former US Ambassador to India Robert Blackwill’s radical idea of partitioning Afghanistan would breed further instability. The Indian idea of a regional solution and a neutral Afghanistan will not be acceptable to Pakistan. India ought to be doing serious thinking on the post-withdrawal scenarios that might unfold and how it should respond to them. At present there is little clarity on this even among the strategic community.

Essentially, it is time to wait-and-watch in Afghanistan and hope that the Taliban’s return to power this time around will not be as bad as it was earlier. India, at the moment, has limited options in Afghanistan, but it should not take its eyes off the country and remain engaged through economic reconstruction programmes.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 30 Apr 2011 07:05
by arun
X Posted from the Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : Mar. 29. 2011 thread.

In what looks like an article sponsored by the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, lots of raving and ranting about India’s presence in Afghanistan .

The author, Asif Haroon Raja, though he fails to disclose the fact in the article, is a retired Brigadier General who served in the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

India’s subversive activities in Pakistan using Afghan soil

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 01 May 2011 11:01
by SSridhar
Taliban declare spring offensive
A throwback to ethical and codified wars millennia back ! The Taliban has announced the date and targets !!
A statement from the Leadership Council of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, as the insurgents call their movement, on Saturday declared their offensive would start May 1.

The operation called Badar will target the troops of the United States and its foreign and Afghan allies, said the statement. The focus would be on military centres, airbases and convoys.

The Taliban in their Saturday statement also said they will attack high-ranking Afghan government officials, both military and civilian, members of the cabinet, parliamentarians, senior employees of foreign and local companies, and contractors.

They said members of High Peace Council would also be targeted because it “prolongs the American occupation.”

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 01 May 2011 15:07
by shyamd
^^ They think their winning, so they are going for it. Because of the peace overtures they have been given more territory.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 02 May 2011 01:15
by Anindya
A little too grim - but, I guess, this is the result of the Pakistanization of the Taliban....

From http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 135986.cms

12-year-old suicide bomber kills four in Afghanistan
KABUL: A 12-year-old suicide bomber killed four people and wounded a dozen in eastern Afghanistan today, officials said.

The boy - thought to be one of the country's youngest-ever suicide attackers - detonated a vest packed with explosives in a marketplace in Paktika province, on the border with Pakistan, provincial spokesman Mukhlis Afghan said in a statement.

"The head of Shkin district council, Shair Nawaz, a woman and two other men were killed and 12 others were wounded," the statement said.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 May 2011 04:42
by Harish
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/05/19/2 ... istan.html

Taliban attack in eastern Afghanistan leaves 35 dead
By HASHIM SHUKOOR
McClatchy Newspapers

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Taliban insurgents attacked a construction company in Afghanistan's Paktia province Thursday, killing 35 and wounding at least 20 others in the latest assault on U.S.-financed road projects that the insurgents believe threaten their access to refuges in the tribal regions of Pakistan.

The insurgents were armed with both small and heavy weapons when they struck a compound belonging to the Galaxy Sky construction company in the Wazi Zadran district at 2 a.m., according to an engineer for the company and a spokesman for the provincial governor.

Among the dead were construction workers, truck drivers, engineers and local security personnel. Eight insurgents were killed by security guards defending the compound, said Rohullah Samoon, the governor's spokesman.

Paktia is a remote province in southeastern Afghanistan that shares a border with Pakistan's tribal areas. Galaxy Sky has a $10 million U.S.-funded contract to build an 18-mile-long highway from the provincial capital, Gardez, to Khost, the capital of neighboring Khost province, which also borders Pakistan.

It is the second time the company has been attacked by the Taliban, according to the company's owner, Noorullah Bidar. In 2009, a suicide bomber killed 20 of the company's workers, Bidar said.

In March of this year, a suicide bomber set off an explosives-laden truck in the compound of a construction company that was building a road in neighboring Paktika province, killing 20.

The Taliban claimed in a posting on its website that the compound was a security company base. It said 70 Taliban fighters took part in the attack and that 40 people had been killed. Twenty vehicles were also destroyed, the Taliban said.

Bidar, the Galaxy Sky owner, said survivors of the attack told him that the attackers included foreign fighters from Waziristan in Pakistan.

The attack added to what has been a deadly week in Afghanistan. On Wednesday, at least 28 people died in three separate incidents, including 13 people killed in a suicide attack on police trainers in Nangarhar province and 11 people who were shot when demonstrators attempted to storm a regional headquarters for the U.S.-led coalition in Takhar province. The demonstrators were protesting the deaths of four people in a U.S.-led raid who government officials said were civilians.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 May 2011 20:15
by Agnimitra
India left standing in Afghan musical chairs

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/ME21Df01.html

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 May 2011 21:07
by sum
From the above article:
If American Afghan policy was a mixture of delusion and arrogance, Indian policy was a matter of simple delusion.

India yielded to the temptation to meddle in Afghanistan and discomfit Pakistan.
In an indication of Indian intentions or cluelessness, the design ignored the overwhelmingly Muslim character of contemporary Afghanistan to evoke the civilization of ancient Ganjara under the Mughal emperors, when India and Afghanistan were part of a single cultural continuum.
What is F$%#^'s name is Ganjara? :-? :-?
India helped enable the aggressive, cross-border counter-insurgency strategy that pushed the Taliban puss deeper into deeper into the wounds of Pakistan's wounded society.

Small wonder if the Pakistani security forces decided to return the favor by unleashing the Lashkar-e-Toiba to inflict the bloody Mumbai horror of August 2008.
However, as Pakistan struggled to cope with its post-Bin Laden embarrassment, China's Foreign Ministry came up with a rare and welcome endorsement of Pakistan's anti-terrorism efforts
India's gains in Afghanistan look to be transitory. But the enmity with Pakistan's security establishment will probably last for a generation.

In a hallmark display of American delusion and irresponsibility, the United States derided Pakistan for harboring Bin Laden and threatened to cut off aid.
WTF is this?

The (f)article seems to have been written by a Paki under the pseudonym "Peter Lee".

The only part in agree about the article is:
India's claims to relevance in Afghanistan separate from the Western military presence appear to rely on exaggerated ideas of what soft power can accomplish in a war zone.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 May 2011 21:12
by JE Menon
^^^This provides the clue:
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Because of the overbearing post-9/11 military and security relationship between the US government and Pakistan - and the US maneuverings that led to the removal of president General Pervez Musharraf and the installation of a pro-US government under Benazir Bhutto's widower, Asif Zardari - China is often portrayed as a subsidiary factor in Pakistani affairs.

Quite the contrary.

China really is Pakistan's all-weather friend and neighbor, not to mention its natural ally, source of advanced civilian and military technology, and biggest trading partner.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 May 2011 21:25
by Varoon Shekhar
Lousy article. Again, Indians themselves are partly to blame for not asserting their current AND historic connections and interest in Afghanistan. Which doesn't justify this rotten piece. Again, the very words Afghanistan, Kabul and Kandahar are of Indian origin. India's links with the land go back to 2000 BCE. Hinduism and Buddhism were prevalent there long before the advent of Islam. Even after Islam came in, India was connected via trade and empire.

In the modern era, long before 9-11 and the Taliban, India had an economic and cultural presence in Afghanistan, with investments, training and education. Karzai was educated in India. Also, regardless of the "Moslem character" , India has every right to be there. Isn't China involved even though Afgh'n has a "Moslem character"? What kind of idiotic reasoning is this?

Why should India even have to explain or justify its presence in Afghanistan? Which isn't to contradict what I said about asserting itself. But that assertion should certainly come when awful articles like this periodically raise their head.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 May 2011 21:30
by ramana
Its a Paki guy writing under a nom de gurre (not nom de plume!). He is an Internet Abdul.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 20 May 2011 22:28
by Agnimitra
India Faces Afghanistan Choice

http://the-diplomat.com/indian-decade/2 ... an-choice/
Second, India must collaborate with countries including Iran and Russia, which along with India have previously propped up the Northern Alliance. If India is to tackle a Taliban-dominated Afghanistan, the now-defunct Northern Alliance will have to be revived. Even the Central Asian countries could be a part of such an initiative because of their opposition to the Taliban.

The Afgan end game

Posted: 21 May 2011 10:11
by Vikram W
India left standing in Afghan musical chairs

By Peter Lee

Think of Afghanistan policy as a game of musical chairs. When the United States this month killed Osama bin Laden, it stopped the music.

Now everybody's scrambling to make sure they have a seat.

Pakistan, despite its myriad failures as a partner in the "war against terror" is guaranteed a seat. It has managed to establish itself as an unavoidable interlocutor in negotiations with the Taliban. Thanks to signature American diplomatic clumsiness, Pakistan will also be reserving a chair for America's main strategic competitor in Asia - China.

As the American orchestra is packing up, its favored South Asian partner, India, is nervously trying to squeeze its way onto a chair.

The Barack Obama administration is extremely anxious to declare victory and shed responsibility for the Afghanistan mess.

Now that the al-Qaeda monster has been slain, the US has an excuse to pursue reconciliation with the Taliban and crank back its faltering and expensive counter-insurgency operations. Unfortunately, the United States clings to the conflicting goal of ensuring the survival of a moderate, multi-ethnic regime in Kabul. And that dream has poisoned its relations with Pakistan.

When the whole sorry history of the Afghan adventure is written, a special chapter must be reserved for the combination of delusion and arrogance that guided US relations with Pakistan. When former US deputy secretary of state Richard Armitage conveyed the George W Bush administration's threat to bomb Pakistan back into the Stone Age if it didn't assist in the overthrow of the Taliban regime, he was simply displaying understandable American arrogance.

America's image of hyperpower impunity had taken a hit on 9/11, and destruction of a third-world regime in Afghanistan was a suitable demonstration of the maxim that America dishes it out ... it doesn't take it in.

When the Bush and Obama administrations decided it was a laudable and feasible goal to deny Afghanistan as a terrorist haven by establishing a moderate, pro-Western regime in Kabul, that was delusion.

By conflating al-Qaeda terrorists and Taliban militants, the United States did more than commit itself to a grinding, unwinnable war in Central Asia. It forced Pakistan to transform a nagging, peripheral security problem in its western borderlands ... into a grinding, unwinnable war in Central Asia. As an added bonus, Pakistan was obliged to wage civil war on its own people, with the unwelcome assistance of US cross-border raids and drone attacks.

Now Pakistan's economy is in a shambles, its government in the hands of President Asif Ali Zardari, a generally derided and incompetent American stooge, and its civil society increasingly riven by sectarian tensions. In matters of domestic security, Pakistan suffers around 2,500 to 3,000 civilian and security force fatalities a year from terrorist attacks - basically, a slow-motion 9/11 ever 15 months or so.

Heckuva job, Uncle Sam.

From the perspective of many who run things in Pakistan, the US war in Afghanistan is the problem and a Taliban victory - either military or political - is the solution.

No surprise that Pakistan hatred of the United States is visceral and widespread. No wonder that members of Pakistan's security establishment were willing to provide covert aid to the Afghan Taliban and perhaps even harbor Bin Laden.

And no wonder that, as America contemplates the implications of Bin Laden's long-term residence in the heart of Pakistan and calls to disengage the US from the bloody and expensive Afghan tar baby mount, its resentment at this unwilling and seemingly worthless ally is boiling over.

It is a fury, by the way, that is shared by Pakistan's embattled advocates of democracy and civil society, who view the reckless and cynical Afghan adventurism promoted by the entrenched military and security elite as a national disaster.

The Indian press have reported Pakistani discomfiture over the Bin Laden raid - and American threats to cut off aid as retaliation for Pakistani shortcomings - with ill-disguised glee.

Times of India Washington correspondent Chidanand Rajghatta, who apparently learned how to mix editorializing with reportage while studying Mass Communications at Bangalore, detailed Pakistan's woes:

Senator [John] Kerry, who has virtually become the Obama administration's special envoy for Pakistan, fended off pressure from his Hill colleagues to curtain [sic] aid to a perfidious and dysfunctional ally ...

Pakistan is said to be the third-largest recipient of US aid worldwide after Afghanistan and Israel, taking in more US$20 billion since 9/11. Some of that money is in the form of reimbursement under a head called Coalition Support Fund (CSF) for expenses it incurred in the "war on terror", but that account is now bedeviled by charges that Pakistan faked or inflated its bills, causing the US to reject nearly 40% of the claims in 2010.

Pakistan's embrace of China while living on US dole and its threat to shoot down American drones with US supplied F-16s has also created a disquiet in Washington that the country's supporters like Kerry are finding hard to counter. [1]

If American Afghan policy was a mixture of delusion and arrogance, Indian policy was a matter of simple delusion.

India yielded to the temptation to meddle in Afghanistan and discomfit Pakistan.

One does not have to buy into the hysteria and calculated paranoia of Pakistan's security apparatus about India's Research and Analysis Wing spreading its tentacles inside Afghanistan to see that India was trying to gain a cheap and easy geostrategic victory in Afghanistan by allying itself with the anti-Taliban, anti-Pakistan power propped up in Kabul by US arms and money.

The Afghan intervention was not simply a matter of Indian support for a regime that denied "strategic depth" to a Pakistani security establishment that probably didn't deserve it. By promoting the anti-terrorism narrative in Afghanistan and making it the basis of its dealings with Pakistan, India helped enable the aggressive, cross-border counter-insurgency strategy that pushed the Taliban puss deeper into deeper into the wounds of Pakistan's wounded society.

Small wonder if the Pakistani security forces decided to return the favor by unleashing the Lashkar-e-Toiba to inflict the bloody Mumbai horror of August 2008.

India compounded its Afghanistan woes by turning its back on President Hamid Karzai when the United States tried to remove the Afghan leader and replace him with somebody they considered more capable, honest and responsive.

As a result, the fundamentally pro-Indian Karzai - who didn't want to be pushed out of office by the Americans or hung from a lamppost a la former Afghan ruler Mohammad Najibullah by the Taliban - threw in his lot with Pakistan and its stubborn, decade-long effort to shoehorn the Taliban back into the Kabul government.

This leaves India with a distinct shortage of interested interlocutors and very little leverage in Afghanistan. Outlook India took a close and clear-eyed look at India's precarious position in Afghanistan:

"There's no question of retreating from Afghanistan," says a senior Indian diplomat. Such brave words are perhaps for public consumption, for there are tell-tale signs of India scaling down its presence here. Nearly 50% of Indian personnel working on various projects in Afghanistan have been sent home.

The Indira Gandhi Institute of Child Health in Kabul - the only children's hospital in the country - is without an Indian doctor; any medical guidance from New Delhi is rendered through teleconferencing. And though four other medical missions are working now, India isn't taking on any new projects, content to complete the two on hand - the Salma dam and construction of the Afghan Parliament - of the $1.3-billion worth of Indian projects initiated here.

The SEWA (Self-Employed Women's Association) scheme, hugely popular as it empowered Afghan women, has been put on hold; Indian-run vocational courses have been suspended; and the training of Afghan civilian personnel, whether in government or civil society, will only be imparted in India now.

The article also described the marginalization of India in Afghan politics, at least that quadrant of Afghan politics where the Indian presence would be most welcome: among anti-Pakistan and anti-Iranian Pashtuns, Tajiks and the liberal cosmopolitans who nervously inhabit Kabul:

There are many here who blame India for its plight. They say India was not assertive about its presence here, thus failing to win the confidence of those who, hemmed in between Iran and Pakistan, considered it a natural ally. Says Moridian Dawood, advisor to the Afghan foreign minister, "India seems apologetic about its presence. It's a regional player and must behave like one, instead of insisting on a benign presence with a penchant for staying in the background."

Many in the Afghan establishment echo Dawood's view, pointing out that even Karzai had told Indian officials that since New Delhi didn't have the stomach to back him in the face of US opposition, he had no choice but to throw his lot with Pakistan. Not only Karzai, many liberal Pashtuns complain that India didn't openly back them, preferring to cultivate its old friends in the erstwhile Northern Alliance. No doubt, India tried to correct this perception, locating many projects in the Pashtun-dominated provinces rather than at places where ethic minority groups are in a majority. But this has not quite earned it enough dividends.

India's claims to relevance in Afghanistan separate from the Western military presence appear to rely on exaggerated ideas of what soft power can accomplish in a war zone.

Sometimes it seems that Indian pundits believe that their adored Bollywood dramas will prove decisive when thrown into the scales of the trillion-dollar conflict:

A few years ago, the Indian Embassy in Kabul entertained a curious request. Afghan counter-narcotics officials, despairing that poppy-eradication efforts weren't working, came up with a novel idea. They proposed to hire an Indian soap opera star, Smriti Irani, to record anti-poppy public service announcements for television and radio.

Given Afghans' obsession with Irani's character, Tulsi, on the show Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi (The Mother-in-Law Was Once the Daughter-in-Law), Afghan officials believed the public service spots could have broad appeal. At the time, viewing the show was a national obsession: Even wedding ceremonies were sometimes suspended so that guests could watch the daily telecast. In the end, the proposal never took off, but it did demonstrate the depth of Indian soft power in Afghanistan. [2]

To be unkind, this episode is apparently an illustration only of thelimits of the soft power that India chose not to exercise in Afghanistan, and the depth of desperation of the flailing Afghan anti-narcotics operation.

Another weapon: India's sophisticated marketing prowess! At least, according to Times' South Asian bureau chief, Jyoti Thottam:

India will help Afghanistan rebrand itself. India has successfully sold the world on its image as a rising superpower ("Incredible India"), despite the continuing struggles of its hundreds of millions of poor citizens. If Afghanistan wants to find a new image for itself, India will promote it as a "confluence of cultures," in Singh's words, rather than as the home of the Taliban and the site of a notorious act of cultural vandalism. [3]

I think Thottam's vision would be best encapsulated in the slogan "Unbelievable Afghanistan".

Some Indian observers, apparently wedded to the narrative of India as an assertive and committed regional power and eager to see it continue to play the Great Game in central Asia - despite Delhi's equivocation in Afghanistan even when things were going its way - profess to see signs that India, unlike the United States, is "here to stay" in Afghanistan.

Harsh V Pant, an academic at King's College, London, in an op-ed "New Opening for India in Afghanistan" expressed the hope that India could gain a greater voice in Afghan affairs by exploiting the image of duplicity and incompetence projected by Pakistan in the Bin Laden affair.

This is a new phase in Af-Pak and India is using its political capital to reinforce its centrality in the evolving strategic realities in the region. It is important to recall how different the environment was just a few days back when the Pakistani military was urging Hamid Karzai to dump the US and instead look to Pakistan and its Chinese ally for help in striking a peace deal with the Taliban and rebuilding the economy ...

The death of Osama bin Laden has once again given a new opportunity to India in Afghanistan and New Delhi should be wary of letting it go waste.

This is the time to show the international community that contra Pakistan, it is India that remains a major partner of Afghanistan and therefore, India's concerns should not be ignored.[4]

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh recently visited Kabul to acknowledge the reality of America's adoption of the Pakistan track, and voice cautious and equivocal endorsement of Taliban reconciliation with the Kabul government.

This was viewed wishfully by observers across the political spectrum in India as evidence that India was going to play a continuing, meaningful role in Afghanistan befitting its stature as an emerging superpower.

Optimists, such as Asia Times Online writer M K Bhadrakumar, took this as a heartening sign that India was taking Afghanistan off the table as a factor in Indo-Pakistani relations, or, as he put it "removal of the "Afghan contradiction" from the cauldron of India-Pakistan differences". [5]

The Indian Express also lauded the prime minister's speech and its promise of a realistic and positive role for India in Afghan affairs.

It has for long been seen as greatly symbolic that India's assistance to Afghanistan includes a commitment to build its parliament building in Kabul. Ever since the Taliban were swept out of power in the American-led invasion after September 2001, India has had a unique footprint in Afghanistan.

In rebuilding its traditionally warm relations with Kabul, New Delhi has concentrated on delivering on transport and social infrastructures, assisting in road-building and power generation and schools and hospitals, delivering food, training personnel. It's won goodwill among Afghans, and it also heeded the limitations placed by geography on India's role. It's therefore understandable that in raising Indo-Afghan ties to a strategic partnership during his Kabul visit this week, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was keen to emphasize these ties were not targeted at any other state. [6]

About that parliament building.

The Afghan parliament building is, as the writer says, "greatly symbolic". Indeed, it is an almost perfect metaphor for India's Afghanistan project.

Because it's not built.

When Manmohan last visited Kabul in 2005, he laid the cornerstone for the new parliament building, just across the way from the shelled-out hulk of the previous one, which had served as an irresistible target for Gulbuddin Hekmatyar during the three-way civil war that preceded the final victory of the Taliban in 1996.

The Indian government promised to pay for the project and Indian architects designed the structure.

In an indication of Indian intentions or cluelessness, the design ignored the overwhelmingly Muslim character of contemporary Afghanistan to evoke the civilization of ancient Ganjara under the Mughal emperors, when India and Afghanistan were part of a single cultural continuum.

After an outcry, the design was subsequently revised to appease Muslim sensibilities. For three years, India's Central Department of Public Works rewrote the specs and increased the budget but was unwilling to find an Indian contractor willing to shoulder the risk. Finally, in 2008, C&C Constructions Ltd, an ambitious roadbuilder, took on the project.

But the parliament building took a back seat to rebuilding and hardening the Indian chancery building in Kabul, which had been shattered in a suicide attack. The parliament building was put on a leisurely three-year timetable. Judging from recent photographs, it is now little more than an unedifying tangle of rebar and concrete. [7]

Afghanistan's legislature currently meets in a building that, by a neat piece of synergy, is owned by Hamid Karzai's brother. [8]

In context of the damage that the US intervention has done to Pakistan in particular and security in South Asia in general, the modesty of India's efforts and aspirations in Afghanistan are perhaps contemptible, not commendable.

Despite hopeful prognostications, it is quite likely that the emergence of a reconciled-Taliban Kabul government through Pakistan's mediation is not going to be a good thing for India.

As the Western world showered it with abuse and scorn after the Bin Laden raid, Pakistan certainly did not reach out to India for consolation and diplomatic cover.

In the post-Bin Laden furor, Pakistan's first move was to seek solace from its all-weather friend, China.

On one level, this is a predictable ploy meant to spook the United States with the specter of Pakistan falling into the Chinese camp, so that Washington will swallow its misgivings and disgorge the military and long-delayed economic aid.

Because of the overbearing post-9/11 military and security relationship between the US government and Pakistan - and the US maneuverings that led to the removal of president General Pervez Musharraf and the installation of a pro-US government under Benazir Bhutto's widower, Asif Zardari - China is often portrayed as a subsidiary factor in Pakistani affairs.

Quite the contrary.

China really is Pakistan's all-weather friend and neighbor, not to mention its natural ally, source of advanced civilian and military technology, and biggest trading partner.

It is, I daresay, a little-known fact that Musharraf's bloody assault of the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) in the heart of Islamabad in 2007 - viewed as the first salvo in the government's battle against extremists - was launched at the behest of China, in part to shield the Chinese associates of a local massage parlor from the indignities of sharia law as applied by the mosque's fundamentalists. [9]

Most importantly, Pakistan has been China's ally against their joint enemy/strategic competitor, India, for decades. China provided critical assistance to Pakistan's crash program to develop nuclear weapons to counter the Indian nuclear capability, and has armed the Pakistani military with tanks, jet fighters and cruise missiles. [10]

This relationship was bulldozed to the side by the US-led "war on terror", but now that we are finally moving on, the traditional configuration is reasserting itself with a vengeance.

For the most part, China had treated the Zardari government with distance and disdain because of its role as an American client.

However, as Pakistan struggled to cope with its post-Bin Laden embarrassment, China's Foreign Ministry came up with a rare and welcome endorsement of Pakistan's anti-terrorism efforts:

"Pakistan has made important contributions in fighting terrorism and made great sacrifices," said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu during a regular news briefing. "The Chinese government will unswervingly continue to support Pakistan's efforts to fight terrorism," said Jiang. [11]

When Prime Minister Yusuf Gilani invoked the special Sino-Pakistani relationship, calling China "a true friend and a time-tested and all-weather friend" prior to his trip to China, Beijing made a full-throated response. Gilani was given a high-profile official reception, including review of an honor guard at the Great Hall of the People, a well-publicized meeting with Premier Wen Jiabao, and nice words from Wen:

"We have reached a broad consensus," he said. "I want to stress that no matter how the international situation changes, China and Pakistan will always be good neighbors, friends, partners and brothers." [12]

Good relations with China is the consensus position of all the major parties in Pakistan.

The brother of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz leader Nawaz Sharif, Shabbaz, visited Beijing in April for a party-to-party meeting with the Chinese Communist Party and declared:

"The friendship between Pakistan and China is higher than the Himalayas, deeper than the ocean and sweeter than honey and sugar." [13]

China's current support for Pakistan represents a major initiative to shift Pakistan away from the US and toward the Chinese sphere.

Some analysts assert that there is no way China will trade good relations with burgeoning economic and military power India for the sake of propping up basket case Pakistan. That ignores the fact that, if Pakistan successfully midwives a Taliban-tainted government in Kabul, China gets a stable, pro-Chinese Pakistan and a markedly more stable and pro-Pakistan and pro-China administration in Afghanistan.

And it seems that India is unwilling or unable to try to do anything meaningful about it.

China isn't necessarily pursuing an anti-India strategy in Afghanistan, simply because India is little more than a peripheral factor there.

The Chinese strategy for South Asia isn't zero sum - it is just that Beijing's equation includes Pakistan as well as India. In any case, the situation inside Afghanistan is unlikely to be a total loss for India.

It seems likely that the United States will continue to maintain bases inside Afghanistan, engage in military operations, and do its best to restrain the ambitions of the Taliban and prop up a moderate government in Kabul. This while India continues in its role as geostrategic free rider, providing insignificant security and economic aid while the debilitating counter-insurgency dynamic in Afghanistan continues to drain Pakistan, albeit at a reduced rate.

As for Pakistan, after a failed war, an embittered alliance and a near-existential political and security crisis, there is little residue of good feeling between the United States and Pakistan, and little appreciation for India's role.

And that means, despite the past disbursement of billions of dollars in US military and economic aid, Pakistan will probably settle into a geopolitical alignment that offers it a measure of security and hope for the future: China and Pakistan counterbalancing India.

If the Indian government had decided to play the non-aligned card and opposed or moderated the US adventure in Afghanistan, the future history of Indo-Pakistani relations might have been a lot different.

Instead, as part of the whole democracy/superpower/nuclear package, India sided with the United States and bought into the Afghan adventure.

That may be the takeaway from the Afghan war that is remembered 50 years from now: that it drove a wedge between Pakistan and the United States, deepened the divisions between India and Pakistan, and gave China a firm foothold on the Indian Ocean.

India's gains in Afghanistan look to be transitory. But the enmity with Pakistan's security establishment will probably last for a generation.

In a hallmark display of American delusion and irresponsibility, the United States derided Pakistan for harboring Bin Laden and threatened to cut off aid.

The writing is on the wall.

The United States is ditching Afghanistan ... and dumping Pakistan. Even if a new reconciliation regime takes power in Kabul, undoubtedly Pakistan will still be called upon to ensure its survival by fighting a bloody and futile war against insurgents in the tribal areas.

Even though Bin Laden's death has little material relationship to the Taliban insurgency, his demise is a perfect excuse for the United States to say "We got what we came for. It's time to go home."

But the United States isn't really going home. It will continue to back up the Kabul regime with military and economic muscle.

That means that a new Afghanistan is staring everybody in the face, and it's time for a new alignment of forces.

The United States is hamstrung, because it is committed to the preservation of a moderate, multi-ethnic administration in Kabul, and Pakistan's Prime Minister Gilani jetted off to Beijing for a high-profile visit.

Notes
1. US backs aid to Pakistan despite public opposition, Times of India, May 20, 2011.
2. Afghanistan: India Woos Kabul as Influence Wanes, Eurasianet, May 17, 2011.
3. India Makes a Move in the Afghanistan Endgame, Time, May 13, 2011.
4. New opening for India in Afghanistan, Rediff News, May 17, 2011.
5. Manmohan Singh resets Afghan policy, The Hindu, May 16, 2011.
6. Kabul corrective, Indian Express, May 13, 2011.
7. Afghanistan: India's Uncertain Road, Time, Apr 11, 2011.
8. India Doubles Down in Afghanistan ... Maybe, Counter Punch, Nov 20, 2008.
9. In the Shadow of Lal Masjid, China Matters, Nov 7, 2007.
10. China-Pakistan nuclear deal: Why the surprise?, Rediff, Jun 22, 2010.
11. China unswervingly supports Pakistan's anti-terror efforts: spokeswoman, Xinhua, May 17, 2011.
12. Pakistani PM hails China as his country's 'best friend', BBC, May 17, 2011. China, Pakistan reaffirm all-weather friendship, Xinhua, May 18, 2011.
13. Pakistan-China cooperation to develop further: Pakistan opposition party leader, Xinhua, Apr 22, 2011.

Peter Lee writes on East and South Asian affairs and their intersection with US foreign policy.

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Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 21 May 2011 10:31
by harbans
One does not have to buy into the hysteria and calculated paranoia of Pakistan's security apparatus about India's Research and Analysis Wing spreading its tentacles inside Afghanistan to see that India was trying to gain a cheap and easy geostrategic victory in Afghanistan by allying itself with the anti-Taliban, anti-Pakistan power propped up in Kabul by US arms and money.

The Afghan intervention was not simply a matter of Indian support for a regime that denied "strategic depth" to a Pakistani security establishment that probably didn't deserve it. By promoting the anti-terrorism narrative in Afghanistan and making it the basis of its dealings with Pakistan, India helped enable the aggressive, cross-border counter-insurgency strategy that pushed the Taliban puss deeper into deeper into the wounds of Pakistan's wounded society.

Small wonder if the Pakistani security forces decided to return the favor by unleashing the Lashkar-e-Toiba to inflict the bloody Mumbai horror of August 2008.
1. So if Karzai was anti- Paki and anti-Taliban it was India's fault. And by doing so India played a "cheap and easy geo-strategic game"? What leap of logic is that?

2. So promoting an anti-terrorist narrative in Afghanistan and making it the basis of dealings with Pakistan enabled the Taliban to wound the Paki's more? Can anyone explain what this fellow is smoking?

3. So by promoting the anti-terrorist narrative in Afghanistan Indai deserved 26-11..no wonder.

Some of these Western narratives are now boiling down to advocating support of terror in their hatred for India or blind support to Pakistan.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 21 May 2011 16:06
by Altair
Afghanistan: Suicide bombers attack Kabul hospital
Six people have been killed and 23 wounded in an explosion at a hospital in the Afghan capital, Kabul, the Afghan defence ministry says.
An Afghan intelligence official told the BBC that two suicide attackers had got inside Charsad Bestar Hospital.

One had blown himself up in the hospital canteen near the military wing while the other had yet to be found.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said his organisation carried out the attack.
I am sure some brave paki must have thought to blow up a hospital..Why not target a school bus? I am sure pakis are brave enough to pull that off

Re: The Afgan end game

Posted: 21 May 2011 17:41
by sum
Vikram W wrote:India left standing in Afghan musical chairs

By Peter Lee

Think of Afghanistan policy as a game of musical chairs. When the United States this month killed Osama bin Laden, it stopped the music.

Now everybody's scrambling to make sure they have a seat.

<more barf>

Peter Lee writes on East and South Asian affairs and their intersection with US foreign policy.

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Any particular reason you posted the whole article a few posts after it had already been posted and commented upon? Why to make unsuspecting jingos go through that trash twice?

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 16 Aug 2011 17:56
by RajeshA
Published on Aug 15, 2011
By Rajiv Sikri
Afghanistan: Prospects Of A Regional Solution – Analysis: Eurasia Review/SAAG
Even without a US military presence, Afghanistan has always had enormous strategic significance for other powers in the region. Afghanistan per se is not attractive to outsiders. It is landlocked, poor and has a subsistence agricultural economy – though its unexplored and untapped mineral riches are today attracting Chinese carpetbaggers. Afghanistan matters because of its strategic location. Notwithstanding its tribal and ethnic diversities and rivalries, Afghanistan has traditionally had a distinct identity as the strategic space between India, Iran and Central Asia – a kind of ‘negative security space’ where all its neighbours seek some influence in order to prevent any other power from dominating it.

Throughout history, Afghanistan has survived because of, and learnt how to leverage, its geographical location as the principal overland link between India and the rest of the world. More to ensure their own security than because Afghanistan was a tempting conquest, strong empires in India, Central Asia and Iran competed in Afghanistan and tried to control it. When its neighbours were weak, the Afghans asserted themselves and invaded them. While invading Afghan armies no longer threaten, terrorism, drug trafficking and fundamentalism emanating from Afghanistan remain real threats for its neighbours.

That is why Afghanistan will never be peaceful, stable and prosperous till its neighbours agree with the rulers and people of Afghanistan on the contours of an enduring blueprint for the country.
From an economic perspective too, India is critical for Afghanistan. Afghanistan cannot indefinitely count on massive injections of foreign aid and must become an economically viable state if it is not to be a failed one. Traditionally, the Pashtun belt has been economically anchored to the Indian sub-continent. Afghanistan has floundered in recent times because the roots of its economic life have been sapped by Pakistan’s policy of restricting Afghanistan’s deep-rooted economic, cultural and people-to-people contacts with India. If Pakistan were to cooperate in restoring the traditional economic and transport links to India, Afghanistan can once again become a bridge between South Asia and the rest of the world. This would bring Afghanistan huge benefits – from India’s large market that can absorb any high-value agricultural products that Afghans should be cultivating instead of poppy; from investments to develop its mineral riches and hydropower resources; from transit fees for Central Asian gas feeding the growing South Asian market; and from trade between India and countries to Afghanistan’s west, including Russia and Europe.

Needless to say, Pakistan too would gain immensely. An essential pre-condition is that its leaders must change their traditional mindset and recognize that the existential threats to Pakistan are internal and from the west, not the east. The doles from US, China and Saudi Arabia do prop up Pakistan’s economy and feed Pakistani vanity, but will not bring stability and prosperity to Pakistan; that can only come if Pakistan has meaningful economic integration with its neighbours. Dark clouds line the horizon. US-Pakistan relations have sharply deteriorated and a reset may be more problematic this time.

So far, Pakistan’s policies have merely corroded the country; a few more years of misguided policies could erode it – literally.

Any viable regional solution to Afghanistan has to be within the framework of a ‘grand bargain’ involving the principal players viz. Afghanistan, Pakistan, US, Iran, and India.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 23 Aug 2011 22:21
by AjitK
Consortium for Afghanistan mine in trouble, Tatas pull out
Barely days after state-owned companies SAIL, NMDC and RINL stitched together a consortium with private sector biggies Tata Steel, Sajjan Jindal-promoted JSW Steel and Navin Jindal’s Jindal Steel and Power Ltd (JSPL) to bid for the Hajigak mines in Afghanistan, the Tatas have pulled out. The Tata Steel board reportedly could not make up its mind despite meeting twice.

More interestingly, JSW Ispat Ltd, in which Sajjan Jindal’s JSW Steel holds 49.31 per cent stake, has decided to separately bid for the said mines. This has forced the JSW Group to keep away from the consortium’s bid proceedings since it is potentially a conflict of interest situation, putting JSW Steel in a position wherein it can share the bid price with its sister company JSW Ispat.
The Great Hindukush Gold Rush
The Afghan government, meanwhile, has already started to auction off some of the most promising sites: Ainak, one of the world biggest copper mines, situated in Logar province, a US$ 3 billion project, has been awarded to a Chinese consortium last year, much to the distaste of some in the US who apparently believe that it should be primarily US companies that are rewarded with such contracts.**

The iron ore deposits on the Bamian side of the Hajigak pass, described by the Afghan government as Asia's largest un-mined iron deposit which they say is to generate US$ 1 billion before 2017, are being tendered currently. According to the current Minister for Mines and Industries (MoMI), Wahidullah Shahrani, this is done in a package with the nearby coalmines of Dara-ye Suf in Samangan (the even nearer operational mines of Karkar, at least until recently, belong to the Afghan Investment Company, with Kabul Bank participation) and chromite deposits in Logar province. The Dara-ye Suf high-grade coking coal is supposed to fire a steel production plant that the Afghan government wants to build. It also has been announced that ‘job creation in Afghanistan; infrastructure development, including railroads and power; and the evacuation [i.e. export] of ore and steel to neighbouring countries for the entire duration of engagement, which should be 35-40 years’ is part of the tende
Ranjan Mathai has been monitoring the progress on this front. They have considered using the rail line being built by the Chinese from the Aynak copper mine.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 26 Aug 2011 19:55
by arun
X Posted from the TSP thread.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s foreign policy elite “continue to view India’s engagements in Afghanistan as going beyond development and challenging Islamabad’s interests in the country”:

News Flash! India Still Pakistan’s Bogeyman

The cited USIP report is here:

Pakistan, the United States and the End Game in Afghanistan: Perceptions of Pakistan’s Foreign Policy Elite

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 10 Sep 2011 10:02
by RajeshA
10th Death Anniversary of Ahmad Shah Massoud, the Lion of Panjshir

A song by Wahid Qasemi



My Respects!

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 13 Sep 2011 18:04
by Gus

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 13 Sep 2011 18:07
by Gus
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpps/news/u ... c_14998023
US Embassy, NATO HQ in Kabul Hit by Major Taliban Assault

Updated: Tuesday, 13 Sep 2011, 8:10 AM CDT
Published : Tuesday, 13 Sep 2011, 8:10 AM CDT

(NewsCore) - Taliban militants launched a major attack in the center of the Afghan capital Tuesday, with the US embassy and NATO's headquarters coming under fire from rockets and automatic weapons.

At least ten explosions -- including one at the US embassy -- were heard, FOX News Channel reported.

The sound of heavy gunfire reverberated across the city, and some was coming from the US embassy compound, although it was not clear who was shooting.

In what appeared to be a well-organized operation, attacks were reported in locations across the city, and also on the road to the airport.

Foreign forces were responding to the attacks, with Kiowa and Black Hawk helicopters buzzing overhead.

Helicopters pounded a building overlooking the embassy where gunmen were holed up. At one point, helicopters attacked a group of suspected suicide bombers who were making a beeline for the embassy, the report said.

The US embassy confirmed it was a target, and said there were no casualties.

"The US Embassy can confirm an attack has occurred in the area of the US Embassy, including RPG and small arms fire. We can confirm there are no casualties at this time among Embassy personnel," spokeswoman Kerri Hannan said.

There were a "large number" of civilian and Afghan military casualties, but an exact toll was not available, FOX News Channel reported.

Reports suggested five suicide bombers detonated explosives in various locations, but the number could be higher.

Also under attack was the headquarters of NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), which is near the US embassy. Rockets landed inside the NATO compound.

ISAF confirmed that its headquarters came under attack.

"A small group of insurgents attacked the vicinity of the US Embassy and International Security Assistance Force Afghanistan headquarters today [Tuesday], firing from outside the compound using small arms and RPGs," it said in a statement.

It added, "Afghan National Security Forces and coalition forces immediately responded to the attack, and are still on the scene. Coalition forces are providing air support. There are no reports of ISAF casualties at this time."

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attacks. "Today [Tuesday] at one o'clock at Kabul's Abdul Haq roundabout a massive suicide attack on local and foreign intelligence facilities is ongoing," a Taliban spokesman said in a text message.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 13 Sep 2011 18:09
by Gus
paki written all over this...

http://www.rferl.org/content/taliban_cl ... 27158.html
KABUL -- Taliban suicide fighters in Kabul have stormed a multistory building that is under construction, taking over the structure and using it as a fortress tower to fire rockets toward several nearby embassies and NATO compounds.

Afghan officials say at least one policeman and two attackers were killed in gun battles within a few hours of the attack on September 13, and that fighting was continuing with several other militants.

The fighting was taking place in what is usually the most heavily protected part of Kabul.

A Taliban spokesman claimed responsibility for the violence, saying the targets included the headquarters of the International Security Assistance Force, the U.S. embassy and Afghanistan's intelligence agency, the National Directorate of Security (NDS) -- as well as other "sensitive government facilities."

The attack is one of the Taliban's most ambitious commando-style operations to date in its fight to evict Afghanistan's central government from power and defeat tens of thousands of NATO-led troops.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 04 Oct 2011 20:43
by A_Gupta
Text of India-Afghanistan Strategic Partnership Agreement
http://www.mea.gov.in/mystart.php?id=530518343

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 05 Oct 2011 06:13
by Prem
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
What former Afghan leader Rabbani knew about Pakistan and peace

Rabbani led the High Peace Council, a body of 68 Afghan leaders charged by President Hamid Karzai with seeking peace with the Taliban insurgency. Two months ago, we met with Rabbani in his home to discuss his diplomatic efforts. Rabbani insisted that Taliban insurgents wanted to come to the negotiating table but that they were being held back by their Pakistani minders — as witnessed in the high-profile arrest of their deputy commander, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, by Pakistan in February 2010. He also argued that the sources of funding for the Taliban, again from Pakistan, had to dry up for peace to be possible in Afghanistan.If Pakistan cannot bring insurgent elements to the negotiating table, and present a plan for a political settlement or a desired outcome, the United States will have no choice but to take more aggressive steps. The United States should begin by labeling the Haqqani network a terror group. Other options include cutting all military assistance to Pakistan, and coordinating among international and regional allies to more sharply contain and isolate Pakistan.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 05 Oct 2011 07:05
by vijayk
It has become a practice for Paki pigs to kill any one and every one who can obstruct the diabolical plans of these pigs whether it is Kashmir or Afghanistan. The west did not have a problem with this as long as they were only targeting Indians, moderate Kashmiris and afghans. But the pigs have become so blood thirsty that they are even killing pay masters.

The one thing the world has to is to involve Mossad and eliminate some mofos such as pasha, kiyani, mush by sending mango craters. There has to be an element of fear for this garbage eating pigs. The message should be that you can be active RAPE pig or retired RAPE pig. You and your family will pay for murders now or later with your lives.

Until the message is clearly sent, the PIGS will not heed any warning.

I wonder why the west can't take the help of mossad to teach these lessons to the PIGS.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 05 Oct 2011 07:52
by ramana
TTP might do that on their own.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 10 Nov 2011 01:52
by atma
Analysis: With an eye on 2014, India steps up Afghan role
Mehta said the Afghans were expected to send company-sized units of 120 men for training at Indian bases, including a respected counter-insurgency school in northeastern Vairengte.

Afghan infantry units are also expected to train at a high- altitude warfare school in Kashmir, where Indian forces have had plenty of experience battling revolts over 20 years.

Part of the Soviet Union's exit strategy after its disastrous campaign in Afghanistan relied on training troops, and some pilots, in then Soviet-Uzbekistan. Some soldiers were also flown to Moscow in the mid-1980s.

Under the India-Afghan pact, weapons such as rifles, rocket launchers and artillery would help fill equipment gaps and pilots would be trained on simulators in India.

Kamran Bokhari, vice president of Middle Eastern and South Asian affairs at global intelligence consulting firm STRATFOR, said intelligence sharing would be the biggest, yet least talked-about, part of the India-Afghanistan partnership.

He said military cooperation between the two countries had to be limited because they don't share a border and that a hostile Pakistan lies in between.

"But intelligence is something that doesn't require borders and they can do quite a lot in that area," Bokhari said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/ ... 7R20111109

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 14 Nov 2011 08:21
by Airavat
Taliban releases document on Afghan security plans
The Taliban emailed the plan — which appeared to carry the signatures of U.S. and Afghan military officials — to news organizations and published it on their website, saying they had obtained it from infiltrators in two government ministries. A spokesman for the Afghan interior ministry dismissed the document as a fake. The plan doesn’t appear to include any highly sensitive information, although it does describe a multi-layer system of security surrounding the assembly site, on a university campus in western Kabul.

The Taliban said that the publication was a response to the hacking of their website in July, when messages were posted claiming the death of Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar, which the group said was untrue. It blamed the incident on the CIA and the National Directorate of Security, the Afghan intelligence agency. Although U.S. officials believe the Taliban has been weakened militarily by coalition operations, the Taliban claim to have infiltrated Afghan government ministries and security forces.

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 29 Nov 2011 08:30
by Airavat
Image
General Khatool Mohammadzai, aged 45, made more than 600 jumps in her 28-year military career, and her precise and daring skydives used to be a regular part of every Independence Day and New Year’s celebration in Kabul.

The Kabul of Mohammadzai’s childhood was a proudly cosmopolitan city. Men and women alike were legally entitled to public education and good jobs; burqas were a rare sight, and young women routinely wore miniskirts or jeans. “In those days it wasn’t necessary for a woman to cover her hair, arms, and legs,” she recalls. The girl was 13 when the Soviet Army invaded Afghanistan. Many in Kabul actually welcomed the coming of the Russians; a violent power struggle had erupted among Afghanistan’s Marxist rulers, and the hope was that the December 1979 invasion would stabilize the government. In fact, the effort succeeded, at least in a limited way.

When an Afghan military recruiter came to her high school on graduation day and asked for volunteers to join the Afghan Army, the 17-year-old immediately raised her hand. Her mother was struggling to support the family, and jobs were hard to find—but more than that, Mohammadzai says she craved the challenges of military life. “I wanted to do what was most demanding, strenuous, and athletic,” she says. So she signed up to become a paratrooper. She vividly recalls how she and her fellow volunteers, almost all men, were sent on a two-day, 150-kilometer march over rough terrain from Kabul to the eastern city of Jalalabad with full packs. The young woman slept in the open among the male trainees. A rock was her pillow, and by the time the ordeal was over, her feet were bleeding. “We suffered a lot,” she says. But she aced the course.

In 1989, after nine years of an exorbitantly draining war, the Russians gave up and went home. The Afghan puppet regime managed to survive for three more years before collapsing in 1992. But the victorious guerrillas couldn’t afford to punish Mohammadzai too harshly for having been on the losing side; they desperately needed professional soldiers with her skills. She was named director of women’s physical training for the Air Defense Corps. And yet in many ways the mujahedin’s attitude toward women wasn’t much different from that of the Taliban: they barred her from parachute jumping, and she was required to wear a head-to-toe abaya whenever she appeared in public. Although Mohammadzai didn’t like the situation, she had no choice. She had married an Afghan soldier in 1990, and he was killed in action just a year later, only 40 days after she had given birth to his son.

Life became even tougher when the Taliban captured Kabul in 1996. All women were ordered to stay indoors at home until further notice, and Mohammadzai found herself trapped in her small apartment, with little money and no prospects, forbidden to work or even step outside unless escorted by a male relative. But she and her son survived, and soon after the collapse of the Taliban regime she was called back to active duty with the new Afghan National Army. In her apartment she proudly displays certificates of merit from the U.S. Army’s 173rd Airborne Combat Brigade and 82nd Airborne Division, and she’s been awarded paratrooper medals by the United States, Canada, and France.
Afghanistan's first female paratrooper

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 29 Nov 2011 12:17
by Charlie
India wins 3 out of 4 Iron Ore mining contracts

An Indian consortium led by state-owned Steel Authority of India Ltd (SAIL) has won the mining rights for three out of four iron ore blocks in Afghanistan.

The win will expand India’s commercial footprint in conflict-ravaged Afghanistan, where it has already invested $2 billion (Rs. 10,400 crore today) in rebuilding the infrastructure. India views the country as key to its strategic interests, especially because it is situated between South Asia and energy-rich Central Asia.

“We will negotiate the actual terms and conditions of the contract now,” said C.S. Verma, chairman of SAIL.

The win is very important not only from the economic and commercial perspective, but also from the strategic viewpoint. Since Afghanistan is on a negative list, we plan to get a sanction from our government for assistance for some portion of the investments,” he said, referring to problems in raising capital for the project.


India recently signed a strategic partnership pact with Afghanistan that aims to deepen trade, security and cultural links, and under which it agreed to take on a bigger role in training Afghan troops and security forces.
“After this we will start the contract negotiations, which will have to be approved by the cabinet,” Jalil Jumriany, director general for policy and promotion in Afghanistan’s ministry of mines, said on the phone from Kabul, speaking about the next step regarding the iron ore mines.

The blocks B, C and D, for which the Indian consortium has won rights, have iron ore reserves of around 1.3 billion tonnes and are located in the Bamiyan province, 130km west of Kabul. The Indian consortium had also bid for the fourth block (block A), but lost it to Canada’s Kilo Goldmines Ltd. Chinese firms did not bid for these blocks.

The other members of the Afghan Iron and Steel Consortium (Afisco) formed at the Indian government’s behest are NMDC Ltd, Rashtriya Ispat Nigam Ltd, JSW Steel Ltd and Jindal Steel and Power Ltd. Tata Steel Ltd was initially a part of the consortium, but subsequently opted out of it.

“They (winning bidders) will build the infrastructure that they have committed for building in their bid. This includes an 800 megawatt power project and a seven million tonne steel plant. The plant will be built in two stages and it should be ready by 2020,” Jumriany said.

Afghanistan hopes to generate substantial revenue from the mines that will fund its reconstruction efforts. Security concerns and the huge cost of getting the remote mines up and running, however, could pose a challenge, experts said.

Six companies and consortiums, including the SAIL-led one, were in the race to develop the deposits. The other firms were Corporate Ispat Alloys Ltd; Iran’s largest iron ore firm Gol-e-Gohar Iron Ore Co.; Iran’s Behin Sanate Diba Co.; Acatco LLC, a consortium of American and Afghan firms; and Canada’s Kilo Goldmines.{So the Chinese were not in the race}

“The development of Hajigak (deposits) by Kilo and Afisco is expected to bring billions of dollars in mining investment and thousands of new jobs to Afghanistan. The companies have also pledged substantial support for railway, power and other infrastructure development within the country, as well as major support for education and training programmes,” said Afghanistan’s mines ministry in a press statement.

Though Afghanistan is still battling insurgency, the deposits are attractive for Indian companies looking to grow overseas even as their local expansion plans face hurdles over land acquisition and environmental clearances. The US has discovered nearly $1 trillion of untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan. The deposits contain iron, copper, cobalt, gold and lithium.

An expert said the Indian consortium would find the going tough. “It is going to be a very big logistical issue. To operationalize mines and even to build a steel plant in Afghanistan would be a very big challenge. There won’t be an immediate upside to the companies who have won the bid. This can at best be a medium- to long-term story,” said Ashish Upadhyay, associate director at Fitch Ratings.

Afghanistan is keen to develop and promote its mining resources and will soon open tenders for four more blocks containing copper and gold deposits. It aims to generate revenue of $2 billion annually by 2017-18 from the mining and exploration business, including oil and gas, from about $100 million now

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 29 Nov 2011 16:28
by harbans
Same as above News item from the Telegraph..Calcutta.
New Delhi, Nov. 28: The Hamid Karzai government today awarded an Indian consortium mining rights to develop three of the four blocks of Afghanistan’s huge Hajigak iron ore deposits, signalling a greater role for Delhi in the war-torn country.

Till now, India has mainly focused its aid to Afghanistan in developing smaller infrastructure projects like culverts and roads.

Sources said the contract awarded to the Afghan Iron and Steel Consortium (AFISCO), led by state-run steel maker SAIL, had the potential to become the landlocked country’s single-biggest foreign investment project.

In a statement, Afghanistan’s ministry of mines said the development of the blocks was “expected to bring billions of dollars in mining investment and thousands of new jobs to Afghanistan”.

The statement said the companies had also “pledged substantial support for railway, power, and other infrastructure development within the country, as well as major support for education and training programmes”.

The Hajigak blocks, in the mountainous Bamyan province 130km west of Kabul, are one of Asia’s largest iron ore deposits that are yet to be mined. According to a 1960 estimate, the blocks hold an estimated 1.8 billion tonnes of iron ore.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1111129/j ... 812554.jsp

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 29 Nov 2011 18:07
by RamaY
Why didn't Chinese bid? They don't know how to get this stuff out OR they know something else?

Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion

Posted: 29 Nov 2011 20:45
by harbans
Chinese are banking on not spending anything at all. They are banking the Paki's will manage to steam roll the Taliban into power in Afghanistan at a later stage after US withdrawal..and then all agreements with India under the Hypocrite Karzai regime are null and void. China moves in fully then. That's why Iran and Chabar are important to foil the Paki's and Chinese. US-Iran relations must come to a mend to solve the Afghan problem in favor of Afghanistan and India..and the West. Iran too will also gain tremendously due to transit rights. US priority on Iran may be related to these issues.